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The only time I've heard Obama

Posted By: the big bad athiest on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: Even Obama talks about God a lot. - Kendra

talk about religion where it concerns POLICY is with the abortion issue.  In the 3rd debate he said he was pro-choice because he felt it was a moral issue, guided by religion, lack of religion, or whatever.  To me this means he is (unlike McCain) inclusive of the beliefs of ALL the people, not just some or those who have the same religious beliefs. 


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Well I've heard
that Castro wrote a column calling Obama "the most progressive presidential candidate" etc and also I've seen videos and pictures of Obama's campaign office with Che Chavez flags? I mean I know that some of it is republicans twisting words and what not, but I don't think it can ALL be refuted as that.

I've also seen some videos of other leaders endorsing Obama. I'll try to find them. Like I said I know some of them are probably fake, but I doubt all of them are. Sorry I can't name names right off the top of my head, I'll try to take some time to do some research and find exactly which ones have been talked about. I'm not a political whiz so I have to do a lot of research! :-D
What I've heard is
that McCain's first pick was Lieberman, but he was forced by the GOP into the pick of Sarah Palin.  I figure right about now he's sitting back and watching them self destruct.  Of course, the facts about all of this are not out yet.
Now I've heard it all!!!!! s/m
Does anyone besides me remember the 1960 elections???  Then it was anti-Catholic rhetoric and no one made any bones about it.  It was said that JFK was the antichrist, the pope would take over the world, he would be the ruination of this country....come to think of it pretty much like what we have going now except that it ended after the election.  I voted for Kennedy and I doubt I'm on my way to  hades because of it.  I also voted for Obama. 
I've heard that also........... sm
I don't understand why Israel is all of a sudden Bush's fault.

The CV joints on my car need replacing. It's a Nissan, but I think I will just blame Bush for it anyway. Would make about as much sense.
I've heard other people say that...

I would only imagine that she's lapping up all the attention as well.  I have no faith she can run this country and I never thought he would have picked a woman.  Obama/Biden...  Looking better and better.


Oh and the pic of his shoes with holes just shows he's a hard worker and does not squander money in my opinion.  Also, some workers at my hubs place of employment purposefully wear holey shoes to show they need a raise.  If management says something about the holes in the shoes, they answer with when they get a raise; gotta eat first!  Maybe Obama really is for the working class!


Not interested, really... we've heard it all before
.
I've heard of that happening here too
in town.  Our house was broken into a few weeks ago.  Our food wasn't taken but a fairly good amount of cash which my husband had left on the dresser WAS taken. 
I've heard that excuse before.
Who cares how we got here. What we need now are solutions. Iraq ring a bell? It certainly DOES matter how we got here and who was in charge when it happened.
I've never heard JM say "when" - sm
I've heard him say "if". However Obama continues to say in almost as many times as McCain says "My friends"

I'd like links from the people who say he always says "when"
They must've heard it on blogcaca
blogcaca has an amazing number of followers. See "Oh. My. GOD." below.

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I've always heard people say...

..."If you don't like living in America, then leave."  I guess that option would no longer be open.  This all seems to be going on right in front of us.  Maybe that's one of the reasons we have U.S. troops stationed in the United States now, to "control" those of us who never agreed, voted or signed on to this "deal."


There might be no escape from the one-world government, but I did come upon one very unique way to leave this earth. 


(To the MOON, Alice!)


This is the most ignorant cr@p I've ever heard
Why aren't you talking about the anchor babies born in the U.S.?  How can they be natural born citizens when there parents are illegal?  That is a much bigger problem to our economy than Obama's  birth certificate.  Use your brains...if you have one....Obama is an American citizen, his birth certificate is on the internet and when you're following these idjits that keep this stuff going, your mind isn't on the real problems of this country and that's what these radical groups who keep the ridiculous lawsuits going want you to do.
OMG, I've heard so many stories like this one
from my Canadian friends! I can't understand why anyone who knows how that system works would want to bring it to the US! If this is what we have to look forward to our country is in DEEP trouble!!!
Oh, yeah. We've heard that one
Did they reimburse the expenses for the $300 thousand "photo shoot" that scared the bejezus out of everyone in New York City?

Okay, here's a hint. The answer isn't "yes".
Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Isn't that the most absurd thing you've ever heard?

Now there's the best reason I've heard yet to vote

Waa, I'm Muslim, nobody likes meWaa, I have terrorist associations so nobody will vote for meWaa, I wanna take everyone's money and redistribute it evenly (that's like restarting Monopoly because you're losing)


Then, when I win, we can have a big pity party!!!!


THAT is the most insane statement I've ever heard!
How the heck can a baby born in this country to ILLEGAL parents be a legal citizen.  You're fine with that?  Makes me wonder if you are an American citizen.
FANTASTIC!! Best news I've heard all day. (nm)
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I've heard no rude or bad words from Gourdie
Only from that nawnau
The best explanation I've heard thus far for economic crisis..(sm)
The Real Deal

So who is to blame? There's plenty of blame to go around, and it doesn't fasten only on one party or even mainly on what Washington did or didn't do. As The Economist magazine noted recently, the problem is one of "layered irresponsibility ... with hard-working homeowners and billionaire villains each playing a role." Here's a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:


  • The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.


  • Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.


  • Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.


  • Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.


  • The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.


  • Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.


  • Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.


  • Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.


  • The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.


  • An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.


  • Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.

The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of legislation was responsible for (or could have averted) the crisis is just political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan caricatures can only make the task more difficult.

–by Joe Miller and Brooks Jackson


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/who_caused_the_economic_crisis.html


Well, I've heard and read he's a pretty rough character
much less a peace prize candidate. In all seriousness, enlighten me as to what he's done to deserve a peace prize? I can only assume it's because of his socialistic practices that seem to now be a pre-requisite for being a peace prize candidate...
I've heard Chatty Cathy in several places on news.
No original thoughts.
The last time I heard about this was when
Hitler was running in Germany. He wouldn't allow certain people to interview him. I have never heard it in America until now. I heard one independent reporter say - Is this going to show you what an Obama/Biden adminstration would be like? Info going into the white house but not coming out? And then only the ones he selects would be able to report on it. This is every American's nightmare.
I've heard that natural gas heating costs are expected to TRIPLE this winter!

I have gas heat, and so does my daughter.


Your mother is fortunate to have you and your sisters to help her.  Makes me worry about all the elderly people barely scraping by on Social Security who have no family.  I guess they and the other poor people are just considered to have no value and are disposable.  I guess someday I'll be disposable, as well.


I totally agree with what Putin said.  Of ALL the places in the world to force change upon, the Middle East is probably the worst one!  Change does have to come from within.  Their culture is so different from ours, and I believe we should respect all cultures that are different from ours.  Sometimes I wonder who would win an election in Iraq if Saddam was suddenly back on the ballot. When Bush debated Gore in 2000, Bush claimed to be against nation building (though he said Cheney was in favor of it, which leads me to believe that Cheney really IS running the administration, as has often been alleged).


I always watch closely when Putin and Bush have press conferences.  Putin should be called Pukin because he's always got this look of disgust on his face, as if he's about to run out of patience with Bush and his idiocy. 


I remember when we first began to brag that the Cold War is over.  I always thought that was a stupid thing to say, because it's never over till it's over.  History will be the judge of that.  I often wondered how a country full of people who were accustomed to having their vital needs met by their government as a RIGHT, rather than a privilege, could possibly survive in the dog-eat-dog, sometimes unscrupulous atmosphere of capitalism.  As far as I know, Putin isn't all that enamored with capitalism, and I'm just waiting for Russia to once again become communistic or maybe socialistic.  I guess time will tell. 


It is not real the last time I heard.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/


THERE IS an investigation going on RIGHT NOW with the FBI and CIA.  Obama states he was born at one hospital in Hawaii while his sister states he was born at another hospital on the other side of Hawaii, yet no real evidence.  Obama then stated he moved to Kenya when he was 4 months old. 


You truly believe the LA Times? The newspaper who suppresses Obama and Khalidi tape?  There are so many uncertainities with Obama.  At least with McCain he is REAL and do not have to question about his motives and who he hangs around with.   


That's the first time I've seen Mr. Bush

He's the man who's supposed to be in charge of this country at the present time.  Blaming the individual Presidential nominees for this is ridiculous.  They are one of how many?  The entire gov't is responsible for it and Bush is at the top.  This mess started when he was in office and he should be responsible for cleaning it up.  Perhaps he should give up his salary/pension.  Why should the taxpayers have to pay for the gov'tal leaders mistakes? 


I think politicians should start having to carry malpractice insurance.  Doctors are made to be responsible for their errors, so should the politicians. 


Two things I just heard that make her look better all the time!

#1:  Democrat Senority Minority Leader Harry Reid actually suggested to Bush that he nominate Harriet Miers.


#2: Some of most radical conservatives are beginning to whine about it.


Could it be that Bush, reminiscent of Rumsfeld's assertion that You go to war with the Army you have, realizes that he came into office with the Supreme Court HE had and is trying to maintain the structure of the court, and, in doing so, is actually doing something FOR Democrats??


I wonder how much his approval ratings will increase if Harriet Miers indeed turns out to be someone who is REASONABLE.


Wow! That was the best thing I've seen in a long time
Thanks for sharing. Excellent!!!!
First time I've read that quote...scary (nm)

Excellent post - best I've seen in a long time
Thanks for posting. I really wish more people would think like this. I just want someone qualified who will do what is best for the people of the country. It's just not happening and hasn't been for some time. Forget the name calling and who started it. All I know is it's broken and needs to be fixed and this is an excellent way to fix it.
I heard work requirement mentioned a long time ago - nm
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Your buddy Rush. I think I've watched his show 1 time.

Yeah, I watch the Factor and Hannity and Coombs most days.  I like to see all sides of a story. 


But on to Rush who I don't give a raiting point and if this is the kind of babbling he does he would lose me everytime...


"You (liberals I assume he's talking about) are offended by all that, claiming they don't have the right to make such decisions, while you sit around and make no decisions whatsoever because you're willing to totally put your life in the hands of some liberal politician and that will take you off the hook for having to make any decision about your life or anybody else's...."


How does he know that?  He's making a big ASSumption.  Just another right wing nut trying to convince himself and anyone else who will listen that the left has no values and that you "the people" have all of the values, are the only ones who are God fearing, raise your families and care about America.  People like Rush do America a big DISservice, with this kind of garble being the #1 rated radio station there will never be any kind of unity among Americans. 


"You hope we lose it. You want to lose it because you want to embarrass the leaders of the country. What must your lives be like?"


I have never met or talked to a person who said they hope we lose the war.  This is nonsense.  What I think most opposers of the war believe is WE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE, but that we have to at least stabilize the Iraq and start an aggressive pullout plan.  Iraqis have been freed of the terrible regime of Sadaam Hussein and once their country is stabilized, we have no reason to be there, you know seeing as if there are no WMDs there.  Iraqi National Security is their responsibility not ours.  We need to get our focus on American National Security.


Now THAT's the smartest thing I've read in a long time! nm

East Ohio Gas has been using natural gas to fuel their utility trucks for years - why hasn't that caught on?  Makes ya wonder..............


what I heard Obama say -
I heard Obama say that if you were making OVER 250,000 you would get higher taxes, if you were making between 200,000 and 250,000 then your taxes would not change, and if you were making under 200,000 then you would be seeing tax cuts, with the highest being for the middle class (which would be where the 100,000 comes in).
Obama (1st chair) first said he heard ...
Wright say things that were controversial in the church. Then he denied it. Then he said he did, then he said he didn't.

Joe Biden's son is a professional lobbyist. He has gotten huge earmarks for his father's constituents. Do we really want to go there?
Have NEVER heard Obama speak to this
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I heard Obama talking
about that bill. I cannot remember what he said was on it that he did not like, but I remember he said that those babies are protected without it. That it is already a law that they have to get medical attention if they survived the abortion.

He knew that was the case when he voted, so that was not the issue, and it would not subject them to being left to die.
I heard tonight that Obama

was planning on asking Hillary Clinton to be Secretary of State.  Remembering back to the primary days, I'm not sure I think this is a good idea.  For that matter, I'm not even sure it's true; just something I heard, nothing official.


I'm having a rough night and feel there's another hospitalization for me looming in my very near future, so I might not be able to post on here for a while for feedback from you on this.  (To some on this board, go ahead and flame away.)  Good thing they have TV sets in the hospital, though, so I can at least keep up with the news.  LOL.


Anyway, take care. 


Anyone heard about Obama's bill...
for children 18-24 to do mandatory military time.  I heard this, but don't know if it is true or not...
If Obama would've come out and asked
to postpone the debate, you would be up in arms..."Barack doesn't want to debate!" or worse.  Give me a break.  They can debate AND vote for the bill.  Remember airplanes!?  Talk about grandstanding.  JM politicizes EVERYTHING!!  Gets old.... no inuendo intended.
I heard that the gutless wonderment of what is Obama...sm
had the kids video up on his website....and then took it down.....

wonder why.....


Funny, haven't heard of any crowds of 100,000+ like Obama.
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I have heard Obama say that every American will have health insurance
and while that is a lovely thought, it is not a realistic one. Look what happened with children in Hawaii. People began dropping their own private insurance in favor of the public insurance and caused the system to fail. Unfortunately, health care is expensive and cannot be guaranteed by the government without a price. I think that it is a nice plan, but will ultimately fail because we have a lot of lazy people who think that Obama is going to be their goose that laid the golden eggs. It's as if some people here (and it is the deep south) believe that if they vote for Obama, he is going to ensure that everyone drives a Cadillac and eats lobster. It is silly and unfortunate. These people are still living in FEMA trailers. Did you know some people actually steal them? Now--don't get me wrong, I am sure that there are some hard luck stories of people with health problems and such that cannot get out of their FEMA trailers, but the vast majority of them are just lazy. It has been three years.. but I digress. I think that radical government change happens very slowly and Obama is ushering it in. My opinion. Feel free to disagree, but I feel that these programs are stepping stones. Oh--and TriCare is the military plan.
Heard in the news that Obama can never reason with Iran.
Maybe you all might know this, but this is news to my ears. During most of President of Iran Ahmadinejad's speeches he always states this:

0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

Who is this human being promised to all?

Their new messiah. The way this new messiah appears is by getting rid of little Satan and big Satan. Iran muslims,(I was told there are 2 type of muslims) believe when messiah appears, there has to be a lot of blood shed.

WHO IS THE LITTLE SATAN AND BIG SATAN?:

Israel's role is first of all to protect itself, but also to alert others to the danger of militant Islam. They intend to go after Israel, but for them Israel is merely the "little Satan," one stepping stone on the march to world domination. For Ahmadinejad's Iran, Europe is a "middle-sized Satan" and the United States is the "great Satan."

So, how can you reason and do talks with president Iran when he thinks this way and muslims think this way? It is not all muslims that do, but this one particular type. How can you reason with Ahmadinejad when United States in his eyes is Satan? He wants us dead so this new messiah will come to them.


Heard in the news that Obama can never reason with Iran.
Maybe you all might know this, but this is news to my ears. During most of President of Iran Ahmadinejad's speeches he always states this:

0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

Who is this human being promised to all?

Their new messiah. The way this new messiah appears is by getting rid of little Satan and big Satan. Iran muslims,(I was told there are 2 type of muslims) believe when messiah appears, there has to be a lot of blood shed.

WHO IS THE LITTLE SATAN AND BIG SATAN?:

Israel's role is first of all to protect itself, but also to alert others to the danger of militant Islam. They intend to go after Israel, but for them Israel is merely the "little Satan," one stepping stone on the march to world domination. For Ahmadinejad's Iran, Europe is a "middle-sized Satan" and the United States is the "great Satan."

So, how can you reason and do talks with president Iran when he thinks this way and muslims think this way? It is not all muslims that do, but this one particular type. How can you reason with Ahmadinejad when United States in his eyes is Satan? He wants us dead so this new messiah will come to them.

Didn't Bush call him a Tyrant?

That's all you've got in response to that fabulous tax break of Obama's for MOST OF US? nm
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Ever heard of Barack Hussein Obama before he started running?
that argument doesn't play out either! and she's the VP not the president!
I'm a woman, and supported Hillary 'til I heard Obama
I don't pick a candidate by their gender, their color, their name, their religion, or anything else. I pick a candidate by their intelligence, ability to lead, and one whom the rest of the world will be more likely to listen & relate to. After the last 4 years, I've watched big companies get TAX BREAKS and INCENTIVES for shipping our work overseas. I work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, and I'm close to needing section-8 housing and food stamps because my pay won't get me much in this country, anymore. Ever notice that just about EVERYTHING you buy these days is made in China? Yet try and find those same products made in the USA. Impossible. So no, I want a candidate that I can look up to and be proud of, not one like Dubya, who's made me embarrased to be an American for the past 8 years.
Funny i heard the exact same line from the Obama campaign spokespeople...
this morning. Almost word for word. I would think being endorsed by an outfit under investigation for voter fraud in 10-12 and more states every day would not be a good thing...but that's just me.

Well as far as voter fraud my friend...so far it is all ACORN all the time, and ACORN is not registering Republicans. For a supposedly "neutral" voter organization....kinda tells the tale, don't you think?
I heard 1 time during this entire cycle about possible Republican voter fraud and that was on the part of 1 man. This is a coordinated, organized effort to steal an election.

Excuse me...in Ohio they registered and voted in a single day so there HAVE been votes cast. And when law enforcement investigates or indicts on voter fraud...they are pretty sure fraud occurred. ACORN has even owned up to the fact that yes, there will be fraud, but they can't monitor the people they hired (felons on work release in one state) and can't check every registration.

Obama DOES have a relationship with them. He spoke at their convention last year. He worked with them on Project Vote and helped train the folks going out to register.

Give him a pass, I don't care. Just don't call people cowardly or hate filled because they aren't on the Obama train. That makes you look hate-filled and cowardly...same thing you accuse others of.
They spoof Obama all the time.

As a matter of fact, he was supposed to be on last night; but due to  Ike, he cancelled his appearance.  You know, it was a bad hurricaine and unlike your hero, he was not going to sit around and watch an entire city drown.


The video depicts how ridiculous McBush's running mate is. 


As oldtimer said, Tina Fey is very talented.