The money being spent on the inauguration
Posted By: is going back into the economy. on 2009-01-12
In Reply to: Question for you all about the dishes bought at the White House - Sara
At least that is one way to look at it.
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If Paulson had spent that money....(sm)
from the first bailout on saving these institutions instead of padding CEO pockets, would this be an issue today?
Personally, I hope capitalism does go down. It has never worked and never will.
I wish Bush WOULD have spent money
We would still have a budget surplus more than likely.
Well....if Planned Parenthood spent as much time and money....
offering contraception as they do abortion, it might make a difference. They make a killing...pun intended...on abortions. Millions of dollars. And can't afford to keep a clinic open 7 days a week??? Where is all that money going? I love their clinic rules...we will take a check for any service EXCEPT abortion. Cash up front for that one.
It was, in fact, the Memphis Planned Parenthood clinic site I was looking at.
I totally agree with that, we need to put constraints on money spent....nm
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Wouldn't that money be better spent on CONTRACEPTIVE funding and education sm
world-wide? How about we stop unwanted pregnancies before they occur?
ummmm because inauguration day
is probably one of the most political days on the calendar? Do you think that book was written in just a few short months? I'm sure it's been undergoing for several years now.
I don't disagree that she does support Obama, but I will state that there is no moderator who is absolutely 100% neutral. They're all going to go to the polls on election day and cast their vote.
I think that a presidential inauguration should be serious...
not an excuse to drink a lot in bars. I actually find it tacky. Watch the serious event in our nation's capital and celebrate if you want, but go home to party like a rockstar. Personally, I think it shows a huge amount of disrespect.
inauguration events
is anyone planning on taking the day off or part of the day to watch the inauguration tomorrow? I would not mind. If I leave it on while working its sure to slow me down production wise.
You'll have to wait until after the inauguration
You're in for a real treat.
What would you expect 14 days BEFORE his inauguration?
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Bush Inauguration Costs
During the January 18 edition of MSNBC Live, host Tamron Hall stated that "the inauguration festivities" for President-elect Barack Obama are "estimated to reach as high as $150 million," adding that "[i]n 2004, to note, the inauguration of George W. Bush cost roughly $40 million." However, the $40 million figure that Hall cited for Bush's second inauguration reportedly does not include certain costs incurred by the federal government and the District of Columbia such as security and transportation costs; these costs are included in the $150 million estimate that the media are reporting for the Obama inauguration. When the costs incurred by the federal government and the District of Columbia are factored in, the total cost of Bush's 2005 inauguration was reportedly around $157 million, as Media Matters for America senior fellow Eric Boehlert noted.
The Washington Post reported in January 2005 that the $40 million cost of Bush's inaugural celebration, raised from private donations "does not include the cost of a web of security, including everything from 7,000 troops to volunteer police officers from far away, to some of the most sophisticated detection and protection equipment." Further, The New York Times reported on January 5 that in 2005, "the federal government and the District of Columbia spent a combined $115.5 million, most of it for security, the swearing-in ceremony, cleanup and for a holiday for federal workers."
This year, the Presidential Inaugural Committee reportedly plans to spend around $45 million on the celebrations "surrounding the actual ceremony," all of which "comes completely from private donations, not the government." In addition, public funds will cover security, transportation, staffing, construction, and the actual swearing-in ceremony. According to CNNMoney.com:
The total cost of the inauguration to the federal government is $49 million, according to Abigail Tanner, spokeswoman for the Office of Management and Budget.
That $49 million includes a $15 million appropriation which has already been appropriated to the District of Columbia to help pay for the inauguration expenses. It also includes money to pay for the Secret Service during the inauguration and the military personnel during the parade following the swearing-in ceremony.
Meanwhile, the governors of Virginia and Maryland, and the mayor of Washington sent a letter to the federal government estimating that the inauguration was going to cost them a combined $75 million -- $47 million for the District alone -- for transportation and law enforcement.
The District may be eligible for more federal money beyond the $15 million appropriated. President Bush announced Tuesday that the District was in a state of emergency, making more funding available for "emergency protective measures that are undertaken to save lives and protect public health and safety."
Millions could get to DC for the inauguration, but couldn't get out of NO before the hurricane...
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Gene Robinson: Gay Bishop Giving Obama Inauguration Prayer
Well, even though that Saddleback jerks is there too...
from the Huffington Post 1/12/09
New Hampshire Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson, a vocal gay rights leader, will open President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration with a prayer on Sunday's kick-off event at the Lincoln Memorial.
"I am writing to tell you that President-Elect Obama and the Inaugural Committee have invited me to give the invocation at the opening event of the Inaugural Week activities, We are One, to be held at the Lincoln Memorial," Robinson wrote in an email to friends.
The announcement comes after weeks of outcry from the gay community over Obama's choice of evangelical, anti-gay pastor Rick Warren to deliver the inaugural invocation.
"It's important for any minority to see themselves represented in some way," Robinson said in an interview with the Concord Monitor. "Whether it be a racial minority, an ethnic minority or, in our case, a sexual minority. Just seeing someone like you up front matters."
Robinson is the first openly gay diocesan bishop in the Anglican Communion. "God never gets it wrong. The church often takes a long time to get it right. It is a human institution, but one capable of self-correction," Robinson told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "I believe in my heart that the church got it wrong about homosexuality. There is great excitement in my heart to be living in a time when the church is starting to get it right."
Robinson said he would love to sit down with Rick Warren but believed that the California pastor has "perpetrated lies about the gay, lesbian and bisexual community."
Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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wish i had just spent it!
I could have had some real fun with that money, traveled, or paid off the mortgage or bought my retirement home or.... etc., etc., etc. instead of just watching it disappear before my eyes. Wish I had done that. Now I can't stand to look at it; too depressing. Retirement now is only a place I won't ever get to.
I have spent a ton
If we are in a slump, it is not my fault. I have been buying up all these bargins. I am done shopping for the year.
This man spent 5 years of sm
his life in the Hanoi Hilton as a prisoner and he didn't walk away from serving his country? Now he is worth waiting in line for. Rock stars come and go. Patriots are here to stay.
spent the weekend
canvasing my city (live near a large university) area for O. It was a very dynamic experience. I met so many people who are excited about the election. I really enjoyed being a part of the campaign for change. I just stopped in to see how things are on the board. Unfortunately, all I see is a lot of bickering from same 3 or 4 people, so I just want to say hi to my fellow dems. I am going to be spending time productively getting out the vote. Have a campaign worker coming from out of state to stay in my home while he works my swing state. Go Obama!
I spent the day envisioning
the future where neither dolled up pigs nor pet goats would distract us from national issues. I pledged with renewed fervor to work to have the administration that was in power at the time of the disaster be held accountable for their inactions and to work to elect the democratic team to begin rebuilding our nation.
you have actually spent time
reaching DMorris? Sad to hear that.
Buchanan is on MSNBC and Chris Mathews tries to suppress a smile when Buchanan twists himself into a pretzel. Rachel Maddow throws her head back and laughs. the segment she has for him is called "It's Pat" and he is too old to know she is making fun of him.
Oh, PLEASE don't tell me she spent a wad on her HAIR!
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I hope all of you who have spent
so much time bashing Obama are happy with your part in this. Put some blame on the McCain/Palin couple for fueling the hate too. I expect it to get worse. Shame on all of you.
Your time may be better spent
discussing the matter with those on this board who say there is no such document....
you all would do better to decide on whether you believe there IS a document or there isn't.... which is it?
He spent most of his time in senate
running for president. It is a shame the people of socialism did not even get proper representation from him. Anyone else with a job to do would be expected to actually DO the job. What's he going to run for if he actually does win the presidency? World Socialization and kissing cousins with terroists?
$13,000 was spent on a makeup artist
for month of September. I think that is even more wasteful because she is so pretty. Turns out a guy was the shopper for her clothes. He has some nice taste, wish he would shop for me. Particularly liked the white Valentino jacket she was wearing at the convention maybe, not sure. Also loved the black blouse she wore while visiting the world leaders in NYC.
What about the Billions Bush spent
Giving millions to companies without overseeing how the money was spent. You think that is responsible? You should at least give Obama a chance. We had to suffer through 8 long years of Republican ridiculousness... Can you not be gracious enough to allow this man some time? At least he has a plan to help American PEOPLE - Not INSTITUTIONS...AKA Bush Cronies.
Perhaps your time would be better spent reading the
the Global Poverty Act Obama wants to shove down your throat..... you want the United Nations telling you or your family how to raise your children?
And for the poster who believes our constitution is better in the hands of Obama, ask yourself why he wants to destroy it and let the United Nations dictate our country......I don't recall seeing that anywhere in the constitution.
Now, it takes a while to get through all the throat slitting sickening stuff in there he wants for your country (United Nations' country)but you might understand where our constitutional rights are heading........
Cheney spent SIX TIMES MORE on...
...entertainment than Bush????
Well, maybe that makes sense. He does seem like someone who is pretty difficult to entertain. 
Cheney spent SIX TIMES MORE on...
...entertainment than Bush????
Well, maybe that makes sense. As I remember his snarling face, he did seem like someone who is pretty difficult to entertain.
It takes money to make money. nm
He spent virtually no time in Iowa
campaigning, so that may be part of the reason why. I hope he makes a good showing in other states. I'm glad he didn't throw in the towel yet, either.
The numbers that Biden, Dodd, and Richardson put up in Iowa are not representative of the support they actually had (especially Biden, IMO). The way the Iowa caucus is set up for Democrats unfortunately doesn't reflect the true support because of that "viability" rule. Republicans don't have that.
Did you forget about the years he spent in Indonesia?
Where he studied the Muslin faith and prayed every day? Or did you conveniently forget that?
Sorry, I'm just getting sick of all this one-sided stuff and it's not just aimed at you.
Man! I spent only a half hour looking at that site!
I could have spent more time but I'm was limited to the half hour. This man spent a lot of time deciphering and examining the certificate. I wonder if they will call on him to testify (probably not).
And why were you not screaming about the trillions being spent in Iraq????nm
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Great site for tracking how the stimulus is spent. sm
The projects are not part of the stimulus bill, but are candidates for federal grants once the bill is passed. You can also make comments.
http://www.stimuluswatch.org/
A trillion dollars being spent, 1100 pages
and the American people aren't allowed to look at it let alone the house and senate don't get time to read it? WTFrig is that all about?
Charging is not spending money...it is spending someone elses money!
When you are debt free (as we are) THEN you spend money...anything else is just going into debt. I highly doubt he pays cash for anything.
money was cut due to war
I have compassion for those affected by Katrina. It is Bush and his ilk that I have no compassion for. This article states that the money was cut in 2003 due to the war. That is why I posted it. Money has been cut to the states since Bush's war, we are strapped in many ways in America due to Bush's war. Open you eyes and see your president for what he is..a jerk, a low IQ imbecile, and for what he has done to America due to his war.
Money.........
Well, if they don't have money for birth control, they sure as shoot don't have it for a baby BUT in my neck of the woods, there are LOTS of illegitimate babies, mostly by mothers who started at 12, 13, 14 and by high school, had 2 or more. They even sit in school and brag about getting a bigger paycheck because they are pregnant again. Now, really, does that sound like someone who is interested in birth control in the first place? Some of these girls who get pregnant at 12 or 13 don't even think birth control. They usually get talked into sex by a guy several years older than them in the first place, and he is a loser anyway, and usually has fathered several babies already anyhow. And, belive me, most of these girls because of community experiences, already know where the clinics are and they can get there. They sure as heck don't have a problem getting there for all the free healthcare their child gets, usually in the ER on Friday and Saturday night because they are too lazy to get to the clinic through the week. Planned Parenthood isn't doing anything positive for them.
No, I would rather the money be used for ..sm
necessities for Alaska instead of asking the lower 48+1 to subsidize them.
The money that has gone to the war...
has been appropriated for that specific purpose. It was not just lying around waiting to be spent, so there is no reason to believe that if the war were not going on that amount of money would be spent elsewhere. That is not how the government works.
If the government did not help these institutions out, it would destabilize the economy which could trickle down to our banks and what little money we have in them. At least they learned from the fannie/freddie fiasco...when they gave the loan to AIG they kicked the top folks who ran it out, with no golden parachute and will oversee it...and in this case, finally...since it is a loan...if they stay solvent and pay it back the interest will benefit us all as it will go back into the coffers with the principal.
Exactly the kind of thing McCain has been talking about for years. Glad Bush finally listened.
yes, you can if it is your money..
I have done it already.
Sure there are.......you want all your money given as
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Of course you would....it's not your money
You'd be screaming a different tune. Even those without it have better sense than to believe this is a terrible thing. The more he makes, the more people he can hire. So clueless and bitter
No, that's not where he's getting his money
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I don't think money should be taken from those
who make more AT ALL. I think there should be a tax PERCENTAGE and it is based on income so it is even across the board. I don't think those who make $200,000 should have a higher percentage than those who make $30,000. There is enough crap out there that doesn't need funding that can go to those who HONESTLY need help.
Those who HONESTLY need help are those who are trying to do something to get out of the whole and can't. Not those who go and buy a house that is way out of their price range, or who pop out 7 or 8 kids just to get food stamps. Not those who live in section 8 government housing for $60 a month and then buy a brand new BMW in someone elses name because they make money selling drugs or working under the table and not reporting it.
I said it is based on grades ALSO. Meaning it is based on both income and grades. Which means if I don't TRY and keep my grades up no matter how little money I make, I'm not going to receive it. That's the difference. No one seems to want to TRY anymore. Everyone just wants more, more, more, and they are doing less, less, less.
My argument is that those who do well for themselves should not have to pay for those who don't give a hoot and don't try to do well for themselves and just sit back and try to let daddy government take care of them.
Where did all that money come from?
Scam after scam keeps coming out. Phony donators sending money with prepaid credit cards that can't be traced. Gee, wonder where the money is coming from ? He is not honest or truthful about anything, and so many people trusting him with their future...sad.
With all the money that
Barrack Obama raised for his campaign.....I wonder who he owes now? I mean....surely some of these people who gave a bunch of money want something in return. Are there promises Obama has promised to keep to individuals who gave him money that we don't know about? This is one reason why I hate political parties. The DNC raised all that money and you have some serious extreme left psychos who gives money and then they want something in return. Does this make Barrack Obama the democratic party puppet now? How does that work?
Where is all this money going to come from?nm
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so where does all this money come from and
when do we STOP bailing companies out? I was not a fan of the first bailout. I think that in the end, all of this will make things much worse and we are just slowing down the process. I understand that both McCain and Bush wanted the bailout, but I am capable of thinking for myself. If you want the auto industry to keep up employment, I would think that the best way to make that happen is to buy American cars, bot hand them over a lot of my hard earned money. I think that the money I paid for my car is enough.
where the money comes from
Okay, those are some interesting links. I feel even better about the job banks program now, because, check it out--this program was *created* to discourage outsourcing. The union felt like it made it too expensive for the car companies to outsource jobs. So the car companies obviously did some calculations and discovered that they could pay these guys not to work, AND outsource, AND still make money (that they failed to make money has less to do with those out of work guys, I suspect, than it does with decades of misreading consumer preferences!). So if this program is a big money-suck, it's only because they insisted on outsourcing.
It's also great to see that this job bank was not available for workers until AFTER they had exhausted their unemployment benefits--and that *those* benefits were also being funded by the automakers. So our tax dollars don't really have much to do with the story. As for the bailout...well, personally I'd rather the bailout money help actual people, rather than Wall Street, so I'm not really concerned about some guys playing checkers.
(as for the $31 an hour, I'm still having trouble doing the math on how a $5 billion dollar committment by GM for 4 years for 5000 workers works out to $31 an hour, but I'll let it go for now!)
I fuss (I like that word!) about spreading the wealth from rich to poor, and about these auto workers, because I think they represent an important case for us to learn from. How will we protect *our* livelihoods? Can companies begin to take us into account, and not at the same time do the same stupid mistakes that always bankrupt them, and not make it look like *our* fault that they're going bankrupt?
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