The ignorance that still abounds in the US
Posted By: in this day and age is shocking. on 2009-04-07
In Reply to: They'll NEVER be really married - Patty
Times change, but organized religion remains mired in the Dark Ages. And I suppose YOUR laws still claim that the world is flat. Well, just don't get too close to the edge, you might just fall off.
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Ignorance abounds.......
I didn't vote for GW. I'm not in to all that dem/rep stuff like you obviously are. I am sick to death of paying for lazy people, while my own husband who works his butt off can't get the medication he needs because it is too expensive but those same lazy moochers can go get medical care at my expense, all paid for by Medicaid. Just because you don't like the facts, does not mean they aren't there.
It doesn't take a mental giant to see what's right in front of your face, just someone who grew up seeing it and is tired of looking at it.
Ignorance abounds
Seems like you're leading the pack!! Do you ever work or just complain on this board all day?
Unbelievable, ignorance abounds. nm
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Very true. Ignorance abounds. Also,..sm
the rallying cry a few years ago was WWJS, what would Jesus say? My Jesus would say "get from me thou friend of satan that causes my beloved servants to suffer", do not judge them by the color of their skin or how they choose to worship. It does not matter the reason they need help. We are all human and need help in one way or another during our lifetimes. Jesus said, judge not lest you be judged. Give Obama a chance. I think that is what Jesus would want you to do.
Ignorance abounds on this board........
you obviously missed the part about your state is responsible for making its own laws, not the federal government. That's what our constitution put in place for a good reason......so GOVERNMENT COULDN'T ONCE AGAIN TAKE CONTROL!!!
Geeze........get off the government is my savior kick and get a brain!!
Hypocracy abounds!!!
In my town a lady has been arrested for trying to abort her unborn child by ingesting an assortment of dangerous substances, normal household cleaning agents and other substances found in every home. Okay, I an definitely against abortion BUT if it's no big deal for those who choose abortion to go out and purposefully abort their child and this lady is trying to do the same thing only differently, what's the difference? If she can be arrested, then shouldn't ALL mothers attempting abortion be arrested?
This is as asinine as saying abortion is okay because the fetus isn't REALLY a child but on the other hand after the Laci Peterson murder in which she was carrying a child, a law was then passed that if a woman was killed while carrying a child, that person would be charged for 2 murders, not one, because the fetus IS a child!!!
Of course, there is really no way around trying to excuse it. If the fetus is a living thing if the mother is killed while pregnant, then isn't the fetus a living thing that deserves life, thereby abortion being murder? So absolutely asinine the laws we pass that just contradict one another!
Wouldn't say ignorance is bliss. Ignorance
is the reason why we had Bush for 8 years, and ignorance is why people will vote PalinMc.
Former CIA Analyst Says Evidence Abounds for Impeachment
Former CIA Analyst Says Evidence Abounds for Impeachment
by Gretyl Macalaster
PORTSMOUTH - The evidence for impeachment of the president and vice president is overwhelming, former CIA analyst and daily presidential briefer Ray McGovern told a room full of people at the Portsmouth Public Library Monday night.
McGovern, who provided daily briefings for former presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush as well as other high ranking officials during his 27 year CIA career, said he has witnessed a "prostitution of his profession" as the Bush administration lied to the American people about the evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
"Don’t let anyone tell you the President was deceived by false intelligence … they knew," McGovern said.
For the next 40 minutes, he relayed a series of events leading up to 9/11 which illustrate the President’s desire to go to war with Iraq well before 9-11, that reliable CIA evidence showed that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and was presented to the administration and the "facts were fixed" in order to legitimize the invasion.
"The estimate which said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was prepared to the terms of reference laid down by Cheney in a speech on Aug. 26, 2002. It was the worst estimate of intelligence and came to the wrong conclusions, but it was designed to do that," McGovern said.
McGovern has been an outspoken commentator on intelligence-related issues since the late 1990s and since 2002 has been publicly critical of Bush’s use of government intelligence in the lead-up to the war.
The recent report detailing Iran’s stopping its nuclear weapons program four years ago, is an example of how the administration knows it can no longer hide such "incontrovertible evidence" from the American people in the fallout from the misinformation they received on the Iraq War, McGovern said. He added that he had almost given up on believing their were people still working at the top with a conscious and enough people at the top willing to let analysts do their job and accept independent analysis.
In late 2005, Congress requested an estimate on Iranian nuclear capabilities. "My former colleagues got really good, incontrovertible evidence that the program, such as it was, has been ordered stopped since 2003. The evidence was such that not even Cheney could deny it. That’s why the report was not produced until three weeks ago," McGovern said, adding that the Bush administration has been putting "spin" on their rhetoric ever since.
McGovern also addressed the reasoning he believes is behind the threat of war with Iran. He said he believes Israel thinks they have a pledge from the White House to deal with Iran before Bush leaves office and relayed the story of the U.S.S. Liberty, which was attacked by the Israelis in 1967 and covered up by the United States. Thirty-four U.S soldiers were killed and about 170 were seriously injured.
"It seems to me, that on June, 8, 1967, Israel realized it could literally get away with murder," McGovern said.
McGovern said he also believes Congress will be of little help. Recently House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitted to learning about torture and illegal eavesdropping in briefings, but said it was her understanding when briefed, that she will not share the information with anyone else, including other members of the House Intelligence Committee.
McGovern called Pelosi out on violating her oath to uphold the Constitution "against enemies, foreign or domestic" by allowing acts in violation of the Constitution to continue by not saying "diddly."
He added that although an impeachment bill currently in Congress is gaining more support, Democrats are shying away because of the influence of lobbies and political analysts telling them to "wait it out" until the election.
Charges in the impeachment bill sponsored by Dennis Kucinich, are very detailed and "as good as any," McGovern said, and referenced the illegal eavesdropping of American citizens. He added that the President has "admitted" to this "demonstrably impeachable offense."
"The argument for impeachment is overwhelming," Randy Kezar of Kingston said after the event. "Impeachment is constitutionally required."
McGovern’s visit was co-sponsored by NH Codepink, Seacoast Peace Response, NH Peace Action, NH American Friends Service Committee, Seacoast 9-11 Questions Group, NH Veterans for Peace and Witness for Peace-N.E.
You're absolutely right....racism abounds
And more than you choose to believe, prejudice/hate/racism abounds in the Muslim community against the United States in general, not just the Christians, as you seem to believe. They are not sitting at home singing the praises of the United States, no matter what you think!
Disagree. Ignorance is ignorance. n/m
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Ignorance......
Well, you certainly should not feel ignorant. The entire problem is lack of knowledge about what has really caused this. We do want to blame the corrupt business practices, but we should at least understand where it all comes from.....
I have posted a complete explanation of the Federal Reserve below and I hope you take the time to watch it. It is 42 minutes long but this is why so many feel they don't understand the problem. This is in a nutshell the root of the problem and why we need to get away from paper money.
I'll post the video site again. This should be taught in all classrooms in high school and again in college and they all should be made watch this to better understand.... taking the time to watch means better understanding and should mean outrage that we have gotten to this point and allowed our government to screw us over.......for decades and decades
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-466210540567002553
Ignorance
Look what has happened to this country in the last 8 years. If any of you can say honestly that you are better off, let's hear it. Otherwise, pin or no pin, hand across heart or not, we need a change. Not saying that either party would work miracles for this country is in shambles and it will take decades to have it back as it was before the W and his rich friends took everything away.
your ignorance is showing...
Your ignorance is showing...
My disdain for you and your ignorance
How DO you live with yourself?
Ignorance is bliss....
....as the saying goes, however, in the Obama posting above it's more like ignorance equals hatred and intolerance. I personally think this country really really needs someone like Obama desperately. We are, after all, a melting pot of races, cultures and religions, not a country run solely by rich white men with laws created to help the rich white men get even richer.
It's ignorance like that -----that can really screw up
I don't care if there what or who was in there as long as they are qualified, and qualified she is NOT
Like I said.......... DESPERATION and ignorance
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Ignorance on a rampage.
shove this where the sun don't shine
There's only so much ignorance that a body can take
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Really? Well, your ignorance of thinking O has any
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my ignorance is showing!
Can you tell me what is ACORN? And what are the voter fraud issues with it? Sorry, but I just don't know this stuff and trying to get informed. I found some conflicting info while trying to do some research and alot of stuff I didn't understand so can someone break it down to simple terms for me? Thanks.
WOW - I guess ignorance IS
not only bliss, but
BLIND,
DEAF,
and incredibly DUMB.
'Senator Obama was very cordial' while McCain had an 'evil grin.' Geeze, lady, maybe open BOTH eyes next time.
Your idea that Obama is for the middle class because he's promising his BS ྛ% of Americans will get a tax break' is a delusion built on a lie.
Why don't you take a minute to look it up? Or are you too busy polishing your Obama presidential seal commemorative plates?
Under Obama's plan, about 43% of American taxpayers would get a ONE-TIME-ONLY tax REBATE of $500. (Less than the $900 Bush sent out this year.) And, get this, for the 42% of Americans who pay NO TAX AT ALL, Obama's going to give them a $500 check just for the heck of it. So you, sweetie, typing away at your desk, will be forking over part of your income tax to give a little gift to peolpe who sit on the fannies watching baby daddy dramas on the Maurie show and rolling their doobies on Welfare.
I'd much rather have McCain's $5000 credit for buying my own health insurance, plus his higher child tax credit.
It's a lie every time he calls this REBATE check a tax decrease. It's a lie counting the 42% of Americans who don't pay tax ANYWAY into the percentage of people who will pay less tax. You don't have to be a rocket scienctist to know that you can't pay less tax than ZERO.
Maybe you want to fall for it. But don't pretend that you don't know your candidate is full of hot air.
Ignorance is voting for someone you think? will help
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Are you kidding? Another example of ignorance. nm
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Ignorance and bigotry are something to be
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Is ignorance your only area
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You are so wrong ...another example of ignorance
First of all, not one of Obama supporters has threatened to riot for not voting for him. Secondly, Democrats have way too much class to act like mindless, bloodthirsty fools -- I believe you missed all the incidences of McCain supporters being worked up into the hate-mongering mobs that became so common at their rallies. I personally have been saying for weeks that I was afraid of the backlash from the crazy fanatics blindly following McCain, and that I fully expected there to be some riots on that side of the fence. Lastly, I do not personally know one Democrat (and I know a lot) who have defected to the other side, whereas, there have been many, many longtime, famous, staunch pubs who want to distance themselves from the cartoon characters that McCain and Palin have become. I mean, you guys are the ones that just love, love, love your guns!! You guys want to talk about ACORN, so stupid. Have you not heard about McCain's bullies at the voting centers trying to intimidate people into not voting for Obama? And let's not forget those Robo calls. If it weren't so despicable, I could almost feel sorry for him . . . NOT!!
Sometimes I'm appalled at the ignorance and
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Sure seems to be a lot of ignorance around here today.
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Speaking of ignorance....(sm)
I just love it when people try to wallow around in righteous, indignant self pity. If you're so concerned about the plight of the Jewish people, why don't you go and help out your grandmother?
Ask yourself this question. Since Great Britian and the UN thought so highly of Jews as to actually declare them a separate nation, why didn't they create that nation in Europe? My guess is that there were 2 reasons. Number one would have to be the *not in my backyard phenomenon.* The other was simply as a controlling interest in the region. The reality is that Britian didn't give a rat's butt about the Jews. They just picked the most susceptible minds (at the time) to carry out their plans. They sold the idea of backing Isreal through religion and still do, just like the US does. One big clue to this is exactly how much we actually back Israel. We have brought them up to the level of nukes while they are still just fighting against homemade bombs. We (the US) look the other way when Israel kills hundreds of Palestinians, but will run a prime time special if 2 (not 200, just 2) Israelis are killed. Yeah, that's a fair fight. We back other leaders in the middle east, but only to a point (Saddam for example). Once they get to a point where they may actually become a threat to Israel (a holding interest for the west) we always manage to call them a threat for some other reason and level the playing field.
I really wish people would look at the big picture on this one. From a political standpoint, Israel is nothing more than a bishop in a chess game.
Right, ignorance is bliss for some.
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Smothered by ignorance......
by ill-informed punkinheads who pretend to know something about our political situation. Just spewing the same worn out talking points that don't amount to squat.
Don't confuse Ignorance
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Yes, your ignorance is amazing....
It is true - food stamps get spent and stimulate the economy more than anything else. When we have millions without jobs right now - don't you think they deserve to eat? Probably not. You probably still live with mommy and daddy.
There is ignorance on both sides here.
As a Christian, I would appreciate it if people would leave this type of subject out of our children's education. It is not unreasonable to ask since we have given up God and prayer in the schools to accommodate those who do not believe.
There are some people who will ridicule the act as well as the person as you can clearly see when we get on the subject of homosexuality. But you cannot group all of us into this category. I do not agree with that lifestyle but having no reason to treat them poorly. That is what I want to teach my children. We may not agree but we cannot be mean to them.
However, I cannot stand by and allow the teaching that homosexuality is okay. It is too controversial of a topic for that to be taught in schools.....just like religion. I can teach my children acceptance of people without teaching acceptance of a lifestyle we don't agree with and I would appreciate it if schools wouldn't undermine my authority on that subject.
You don't see me going around forcing religion on children who I know has parents who don't believe in God and don't want their kids hearing about God.
I sense a little ignorance on your part, you say they are no more pro-war
than God, but then you defend them posting up pictures with guns draped around their necks. I'm trying to follow you here.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Just take a look at this administration.
Give up on trying to reason with this MT person. When she still doesn't get it - even when her actual words are presented to her - this is not a normal mind.
Your ignorance and hatred know no bounds. nm
It must be nice living in ignorance. sm
You are certainly entitled to your opinion; however, you don't speak for any majority anywhere. None of us do. You have obviousy not done any research at all into what adult or embryonic stem cell research can and cannot do, what they wish to do, and the dire consequence that have been predicted for stem cell research, including brain tumors.
Good for you! My sentiments exactly. What ignorance. nm
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If ignorance is offensive, then yes. You do offend. nm
your ignorance is amazing -and O will bankrupt the
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YOur ignorance and racism is showing
OBAMAJAD? Could your side please give the "he's a Muslim" chant a rest?
Or do you enjoy looking stupid?
I know my ignorance is showing, but what is ACORN? nm
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How sad you find ignorance refreshing.....
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I don't find ignorance refreshing
There was nothing ignorant in that post. I agree with oldtimer that the hate being spewed at McCain's and Palin's rallies is scary. And I don't like the fact that they are encouraging it. I am afraid for Obama. He's a good, decent, honest man and there are a lot of crazed people out there.
Your ignorance speaks for itself. Can;t stoop low enough
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And you are a prime example of the dem's overwhelming IGNORANCE!
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Ignorance like this has its place, I suppose.
Canadians are smart enough to figure out that your voice is coming from he far right fringe and is in no way representative of post-Bush America.
The hate and ignorance that will set us all free
in the wrong direction. As for that Ayers judgement "issue," Powell has that in spades and that is why his endorsement was appropriate in this context. Beyond that, I think that policy on critical national issues deserve a look-see as well and for the life of me, I can't understand why McCain/Failin campaign thinks distraction and culture wars do nothing constructive other than to support Obamas statements early on in the campaign about division and unity.
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