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The dems and pubs can go back in time as far as they want.

Posted By: Zville MT on 2009-03-16
In Reply to: Runaway Spending - Mrs. Bridger

This spending crap started long before Obama got into office, but that doesn't excuse anyone from the spending that's gone on since he took office.

I'm so tired of hearing how Obama inherited this mess and how the pubs are trying to keep spending to a limit. Well, where were these pubs 8 years ago or 10 years ago? NOW, they say they want to conserve, but as soon as the next bill comes along, they attach more pork to it, just like everyone else.

And then Obama signs it all, even while spouting about controlling the earmarks! Seriously?

You can put as many people from the government that you want on any of these political talk shows and it's all going to come out the same - there's not a single one of them that can be trusted and that goes back way further than our economic crisis or whatever the he11 you want to call it.


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Everyone (dems and pubs)...(sm)
have said the economy is going to get worse before it gets better, so again, how about something specific?
Pubs and Dems read this



HARD TO ARGUE WITH THIS ONE!


While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically

hit by a truck and dies.


His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.


"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."


"No problem, just let me in," says the man.


"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in h*ll and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."


"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the senator.


"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."


And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to h*ll. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.


Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, Shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting Rich at the expense of the people.


They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.


Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.


Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...


The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where

St. Peter is waiting for him.


"Now it's time to visit heaven."


So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.


"Well, then, you've spent a day in h*ll and another in heaven.

Now choose your eternity."


The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would Never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in h*ll."


So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to h*ll.


Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.


He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.


The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here andthere was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time.


Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.

What happened?"


The devil looks at him, smiles and says,

"Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted."

Yep. More dems voted for it than pubs

 


http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml


5 pubs, the rest (and there are many) are dems.....
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when dems are mean, it's funny...when pubs are mean, it's murderous
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Here is one thing dems and pubs can agree on

We're glad its over.


Okay - back to work for me, just thought of that.


Guess the dems are rubbing off on the pubs, since
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This was a package that both the dems and pubs thought would pass
We need something done with the stock market hitting bottom.
the pubs care more about "mericans than dems? hahahahahaha!
You ever hear of Halliburton?
Questions for dems and pubs - only serious responses need post...(sm)

If you are a democrat, is there anything that Obama has done that you don't agree with, or perhaps is there a policy that he has kept from the previous admin that you agree with that would be out of the norm for the left?


My answer: I actually agree with the decision exhibited thus far by the Obama administration to keep the "enemy combatant" thing.  I think it could serve as useful, however, it should not be abused.  In the case of al-Marri I think it was abused, and it should be refined.  They have FINALLY brought charges against this guy who has been held in prison since 2003 with no charges, no counsel, nada.  I think we need to preserve the right to hold people, but there needs to be some kind of standard for doing so.


Info on case:  http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gcdH1vowYGzkkCo-7c8M2imC056Q


If you are a republican is there anything that the Obama administration has done that you DO agree with?


Heads dems win, tails pubs lose. I'm just sayin'........

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How about warning before you open any links from pubs or dems or other ANONYMOUS PEOPLE
just because they say they are a pub doesn't mean anything. You know ANYONE can post on here right???


The last 8 years have been the time for dems to be mad
Now it's the pubs' turn. And honestly, you can hardly blame them - look who was in the White House the last 8 years - that was the best the republican party had to offer? And then they go on a spending spree that until now had been unprecedented in our country - Bush never met a bill he didn't like, especially if it had a bunch of zeros in it.

Now they've lost power everywhere in Washington and with many of thier constituents and they're mad. They should be! Let them whine and have their poor me parties - in the end, they'll come back a stronger and more united party - the dems did it after Clinton - the pubs will do it after Obama.

It's just a natural life cycle in Washington.
Those darn dems and their time machines! (nm)

I bet a lot of Dems and Reps won't be reelected this time.
Support your local moderates, whichever major party they might represent. And in this election cycle, please don't waste your vote on third party candidates who cannot win. Wasted votes will only serve to let the incumbents sneak back to Washington. After the entrenched power base has been broken up, third parties will have a better chance to make some gains in future elections.
They'll be back. This isn't the first time they've packed
their bags and left.
The time has come to just sit back and watch.

And that's what I'm going to do.  Watch and pray.  I think the libs have made quite a nice show on this board with all their Obama worship, hypocrisy, personal insults, and downright temper tantrums.  Last I checked, the constituion was still intact and as a citizen of this country, even us conservatives have the right to speak our minds.  But I know how it works with the libs, the bill of rights, the tolerance mantra, it only applies to them.  God help you if you have greatly differing political and religious beliefs, you won't receive tolerance.  You will receive out and out hate.  But that's okay with me.  If the libs hate me, ridicule me, and insult me, then I'm doing something right.  I don't want to be a member of the Obama herd.


"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd. -- Bertrand Russell"


Time will reveal King Obama's inexperience and shortcomings. 


Time to come back to reality - see message
First and most importantly you do not have your facts correct. Sarah Palin and John McCain never once started any assassination conspiracies. I believe if anyone it was Hillary Clinton as the whole country heard her say it on camera.

Can you not grasp the difference between talks of assassination and candidates getting up talking in their rallies bringing up issues about their oponents (both sides). M/P got up and spoke about Obama's shady background, his friendships with the people like Ayers (a known terrorist), ACORN, Rev. Wright, etc, etc, etc. This list goes on and on and on. They spoke about Obama's viewpoints on abortion and his voting record. And Obama/Biden did the same thing. Whatever the supporters think up in their own minds is nobody's fault and you will have a few nuts who will say terrible things. But face reality - it is on both sides. There is so much hatred being spewed against Palin and her family for no good reason. You take one part of her interview and claim she can't make sentences but you ignore the fact that when Obama speaks it is usually with um, er, uh, um, um, er, um, etc. Then he can't even speak without pre-written speeches and teleprompters.

What I'm trying to say is there are violent people on both sides. You're coming off as though everyone who is supporting Obama/Biden are peaceful people that all just want to get along and have a big group hug. OH PLEASE!!! What that video showed you is that there are violent people who were trying to attack and overturn Palin's motorcade. And if they were successful they would have dragged her out and beaten her to death. Remember Reginald Denny? There are violent people are on both sides.

Also, the so called "thousands and thousands at a Palin rally" is a bunch of hooey. Never heard on tape and secret service reported they never once heard anyone yell anything against Obama that the Obama supporters are claiming they did. You can't make up something that didn't happen. Well actually you are making up something that didn't happen but it doesn't make it true.

As for Obama supporters "responding in kind". Oh please....the Obama suporters spewed nothing but hatred and lies against the M/P camp, AND we saw that in Obama's attack ads. As for negative campaigning. Both did negative campaigning. The first we saw of it was Obama. Look at what he did to Hillary.

As for the entire media/press...they were too busy having a love fest with Obama they got away from reporting news and kept spewing out their opinions. Lets talk about the liberal TV and radio stations (I watch them all). The liberal stations never reported one negative thing about Obama or Biden. Not one thing!!!!! Yet they kept badgering and spewing their lies and hatred against M/P - hence Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman were held back from reporting the main political stories - MSNBC & CNN lost a lot of viewers because of their vicious lies and not reporting facts anymmore.

As for saying Palin made a fool of herself. Well looks like you didn't even listen to anything she ever said. You probably only listened to what MSNBC or CNN reported about her. She has more experience as Governor than Obama has as a junior senator. And did more good things for her state and has around a 90% approval rating. And while she was doing this where was Obama? Sitting in a hate-filled sermons of Rev. Wright twice a month, having the terrorist Ayers jump start his political career. And hanging out with people like Rezco, Daley, and others. Truth is Palin was never given a fair chance by the media. Watching her interviewed by the people who wanted to see her fail was the worst journalism I have ever seen and those two (Couric and Gibson) should be fired. They have shown they have no journalistic qualities. Talk about getting a free ride - that's where they elevated Obama and Biden. Whenever Biden made a gaff (and BIG ones) they let him slide. They never gave Obama the tough questions. And they never reported on him saying there are 57 states. All that was conveniently pushed under the rug to try to be forgotten. So yes I found it very irresponsible that they treated Obama like he was king while they trashed Palin/McCain.

Like one poster said...if M/P won you would hear about assissination attempts coming from the Obama people. And still when I pull up article after article after article I am not seeing Palin supporting an assassination as you are trying to claim. I am however seeing Hillary's name come up time after time.

If you want to talk about behaving like a 5th grader look no further than the mirror. I am addressing issues and have been. I read all articles, listen to all TV/radio stations whether I agree or not. You're just repeating what I've already heard on the liberal stations and we all know they cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Maybe a bit of research would be a good thing. I've done it, but then again you have to have an open mind when reading articles.

Don't you get that ignoring facts shows how little you research, how biased one is hence none of your arguments are valid.

Creating conspiracy theories is not how America is going to be able to move forward...don't you get that?
How do you think Palin travels back and forth from Alaska...by bus also??? Not this time...nm
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Time for all to be patriotic and fair and back the new president nm
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get on back, neocon, get on back
Tell ya what, sweetheart, last I checked this is the LIBERAL BOARD and I havent been banned, as I dont break the rules, so I can stay as long as I want..Seems to me, conservative, you are the one who should mosey on by and get back to drink more Kook-Aid. 
Yep, but it was straight time. No time and a half
DHL is GERMAN OWNED.  And, company was located on Snotsdale, I mean Scottsdale, AZ which means.  Labor laws in Arizona suck.  Right to work state.  Basically a company can do whatever they want to do with you and if you do not like it, then quit and find another job.
Pubs and you especially, Sam, have
Left shoe is on the right foot now. No choice left except to stew in your own juices in this regard.
The Pubs also always say...
Just look at his mother at age 94 (or whatever). She's still kicking at her age. NOT!!! No one ever asks where his father is. Dead perhaps? At what age? Will have to Google that maybe.
The same can be said for the pubs that
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Pubs
I'm not a pub as you put it, but a democrat, and I cringe at the thought of Obama in the white house. If it were Biden, I would definitely consider that strongly but when you have nothing but corrupt questionable activities and more than questionable acquaintances, I won't help put that kind of person in office.

I'd rather go down with the sinking ship, as some poor lost soul OP phrased it, rather than be the cause of the sinking ship.


Oh, I know, all pubs are...well,
fine and upstanding citizens and bleeding hearts for the middle class and poor.  I imagine rabid Republicans are about the only ones who still think George W. Bush is a fine, honest, Christian man.  I recall one Rabid around here who carried a huge sign around in the back of his pick-up truck in 2004 that said, "Vote freedom, vote God, vote Bush."  Nearly made me vomit.  Not surprisingly, being a rabid Republican, he is carrying around the same sign but changed Bush to McCain.  But he's also crying that he lost his job, is worried about his mortgage and they can't afford for his wife to retire.  Rabid people can't seem to learn anything from experience.
Here's a new one for you pubs....

Got this email this morning who says from her mouth to my ears that she is a DEMOCRAT, has never voted for a republican but says (from her mouth to my ears) that she will NEVER vote for a black president.  So she sends me this with the warning in the subject line, "be afraid, be very afraid."  If I didn't love her I'd wring her neck off!!


Notice to All Employees

As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:

1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a “fair shake.”

2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.

3. All top management will now be referred to as “the government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn't apply to us.

4. The “government” will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging it's workers to continue to work hard “for the good of all.”

5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it's “good to spread the wealth". Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more “patriotic.”

6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don't feel bad, though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he'll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can't pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flatscreen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn't all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!

If for any reason you are not happy with the new policies, you may want to rethink your vote on November 4th.


Who said anything about pubs? I said O can't get
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about 5 pubs
Minority hardly even describes how you think. 
Pubs would love that, but no can do.
Somebody from your cowardly party steps us and acknowledges some responsibility and culpibility in this tragedy.
If she is a sideshow, why are the Pubs

keeping her away from the media?  Why hasn't she answered one question nor had one interview since she was picked as VP nominee?  Seems odd to me, but then, I find JM's choice very odd and not so brilliant.


Like I said, pubs simply do not
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Calling all pubs.
xoxoxoxo
Pubs hate sex
Pubs think sex is a sin - click on link
Exactly! I see no comments from the Pubs.
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Sure and the pubs had no hand in it at all.
Maybe if the pubs weren't so against regulating it may have been averted too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1222092873-DDzUm2VKJMYWutTohJrNDQ
maybe sam's one of them rich oil pubs
well-being of the rest of us.
If that's your theory, then the pubs
should have been all for it, but they weren't, were they?
Pubs are the ones with blinders on.
nm
Didn't say that. You did. It's the pubs who
JM's economic meltdown plan is exactly what now?
Exactly, pubs had to take on the responsibility
to handle the junk the dems left them with. Glad you understand.
Maybe we could just round up all the pubs
so we can actually get some work done this time around!
I do believe the pubs are grasping at
Time for a change; the same isn't working anymore...
Look, if the pubs are going to get a bad wrap
I may as well ruffle your feathers!!!    (At least I'm trying to be PC by posting a nonpartisan-looking smiling)
I don't think it's fair to just say pubs
GP...I have had many dems be downright hateful to me about the fact that i'm too "close minded" and "ignorant" because I won't vote for Obama.

Quite frankly I don't care, because I consider myself an independent. I just happen to be voting republican this time. I wish like heck an independent had become a viable candidate but i'll be amazed if that EVER happens.
"A Few Years Ago" the pubs had the
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I am not bashing - but the same can be said of hte pubs -
The bitter, bitter pubs are still bashing Obama instead of waiting and giving him a chance.

He is our next POTUS and he should be given the respect he is due in that position. Everybody should start with a clean slate - at least let him get started before you tear him down...
Pubs blocking help for big 3?

Okay, its obvious that we are going down financially, but why would republicans want to make it worse?  The auto industry is going down, and pubs don't want to help because it's "their problem" and not ours?  Granted, a bailout may not work, but doing nothing will definitely not work.  Are they really working for the country or taking a gamble and just looking at the next election?  Meanwhile, we have yet another day of people losing jobs.  Is it Jan 20 yet?


Check this out:


http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/13/tsr.bouldan.gm.bailout.congress.cnn


Well, the pubs supported s/m
the Wall Street bailout didn't they?  Haven't you heard about American Express?  This is the most ridiculous thing this lousy government has ever done.  Big business gets bailed out with our tax dollars and the "small businesses" that Bush says is providing all the new jobs, they either sink or swim on their own.  This is just another way for politicians to feather the nexts of their big business buds.  And what about that economic summit going on in Washington today?  Could it be the creditors of the USA are here to call in their loans?  It is absurd to bail out the auto industry.  Do you think it's going to save jobs?  Well, it won't.  If they are going to get bailed out it should be with a stipulation that all their parts are AMERICAN made.  THAT might save American jobs.  They'll get the bailouts and their employees and the rest of the country will get SCREWED.
This is the man the pubs listen to.
Beck began his radio career when he won a local radio contest to be a DJ for an hour, and was eventually granted a part-time job. He hosted Christian radio on Saturday, rock on Sunday and country on weeknights. In the mid 80s he worked at WRKA radio in Louisville, Kentucky as a morning-drive DJ. His show was called Captain Beck and the A-Team.

After graduating from high school, Beck pursued his career as a Top 40 DJ. By the time he was in his 20s, Beck was on WKCI-FM (KC101), a Top 40 radio station in Hamden, Connecticut, hosting the local morning show with Pat Gray. Originally the show was billed as the Glenn and Pat Show. When Gray left the show, Beck continued with co-host Vinnie Penn. While working in Connecticut, he appeared and sang background vocals on The Delrays' Red, White and Blues CD, a fund raising effort by then Governor John Rowland produced by guitarist Tom Guerra. The CD was well received and was promoted by a series of live appearances.Years later, he began to explore the world of talk radio with a three-hour program on KC101's sister station, WELI. Beck then worked at Tampa, Florida's WFLA-AM and launched The Glenn Beck Program during the afternoon drive, filling the slot held by Bob Lassiter after the station's new owners, Clear Channel, fired him. Beck hosted the new radio show, combining politics and comedy. In the first year, The Glenn Beck Program moved from 14th place to the #2 position.

His theme song back in the Tampa days was a copy of the song, "AM Radio" by the band Everclear. "You got Glenn Beck on your AM radio... AM radio."

Within 12 months, Premiere Radio Networks offered Beck the opportunity to go national. In January 2002, The Glenn Beck Program launched nationally; by May 2008, it had reached over 280 stations as well as appearing on XM Satellite. With over six and a half million listeners, it was ranked 4th in the nation.[2] In January 2006, CNN's Headline News announced that Beck would host a nightly news-commentary show in their new primetime block Headline Prime; the show, simply called Glenn Beck, began in May 2006.

On November 5, 2007, The New York Times reported that Premiere Radio Networks was extending Beck's contract. Two sources with knowledge of the deal said the five-year contract was valued at $50 million.[citation needed]

On July 21, 2008, Beck filled in for Larry King on the show Larry King Live.[3]

In 2008, Beck won the Marconi Radio Award for Network Syndicated Personality of the Year.

On October 16, 2008, it was reported by the Drudge Report and The Politico that Beck has signed a contract with the Fox News Channel to host a weekday show at 5pm ET beginning January 19 2009, as well as a weekend version. Because of his new deal, CNN immediately discontinued the show on October 17, 2008 and replaced it with a news hour anchored by Jane Velez Mitchell.

Is this the best this goofball has to offer you pubs...pitiful doesn't begin to cover it!