The debate takes 2 hours. Have it in Washington if that is...sm
Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-09-24
In Reply to: I want a President who has sense enough... - sam
where McCain feels he needs to be.
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It takes so little to make you laugh - in fact, it takes nothing at all. NM
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she's here 18 hours a day
7 days a week. Takes a 6 hour break to hang from the rafters in the attic.
I don't think bar hours ...(sm)
are really the issue. If people want to get drunk they'll do that whether or not the bars are open. I think the larger issue is that so many people will be there at one time. Anytime you put that many people together (regardless of the reason) there will always be the few that act the fool.
Not if you know that there are 24 hours in a day.
Lets break this one down. If she posted in the morning, it means she get to count the hours in today. So, that means we have 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and part of 20 to get through. I have listed them so (assuming you can count to 14) you can finger count them and see that she is on the mark. Besides, If she didn't count today's hours or left out the ones on the 20th, you guys would be all over her like a cheap suit on a used car salesman telling her she is trying to jump the gun.
Could you get anymore petty than this? Suck it up. Time is short no matter how you slice it and before you know it, he will be sworn in. Deal with it and while you're at it, why can't you simply let somebody be excited and feel good about something for a change? Not all of us choose to wallow around in self pity, look on the dark side 24/7/365 and forecast the end of the world every time we open our mouths.
Why? Because he took a few hours off
Much ado about nothing.
Debate, lets debate
Honey, I dont know if your problem is Alzheimer's or Parkinson's but I have debated all over this board..I have tried and tried again and again to debate with your cohorts..It starts out okay and then your conservative friends start attacking and it continues through the debate to where then there is no longer a debate. I ask for you to check the archives and you will see this..nothing but personal attacks against me, which then I attacked back..Debate..lets debate..I WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE WITHOUT ATTACKS..Place an issue and lets debate..Who knows..my consciousness might be raised or yours might be..Lets do it,,
They have to complete 40 hours of
community service each year. The district provides a list of opportunities for them to chose from. If they want to do something that is not on the list, such as initiate their own project, they simply have to have it approved beforehand to be sure it will count toward their credits. Scouting activities, NHS CS commitments, etc., all count toward this requireement.
As of 1 pm EST only 11 days and 22 hours to go
Now if we can just keep W's hands off any fountain pens, we're home free.
Only 14 more hours, and Bush will
I am so glad to say, we're dumping Bush today,
At last it's finally time, to rid us of that SLIME.
He quite unmercifully, screwed our economy,
But no more will he vex us, he's going BACK TO TEXAS!
YAAAAYYYYYYY !!!!!!!! (And good riddance, too.)
can't even MT - restrictions say he cannot sit more than 2 hours!
His restrictions are that he cannot bend, squat, lift, climb, crawl sit more than 2 hours, stand more than 2 hours...
but in that 24 hours important information
could get away. The NSA should be monitored, but 24 hours on wiretaps that need to be done right now is just not realistic for accurate intelligence gathering.
When you dial into a phone line you've just given up your right to privacy. You are not guaranteed privacy on phone lines owned by private companies. There is no privacy contract of any sort when you dial a phone. That's where the disconnect lies. Pardon the pun.
I said warrant within 24 hours of taping...sm
None taken...However the private company is providing a *service* to you and the consumer should have rights.
It's 4 hours 15 minutes, an HBO special...sm
Yeah Spike Lee put it together.
Saddam's in his final hours....sm
By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The official witnesses to Saddam Hussein's impending execution gathered Friday in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone in final preparation for his hanging, as state television broadcast footage of his regime's atrocities.
With U.S. forces on high alert for a surge in violence, the Iraqi government readied all the necessary documents, including a red card - an execution order introduced during Saddam's dictatorship. As the hour of his death approached, Saddam received two of his half brothers in his cell on Thursday and was said to have given them his personal belongings and a copy of his will.
Najeeb al-Nueimi, a member of Saddam's legal team in Doha, Qatar, said he too requested a final meeting with the deposed Iraqi leader. His daughter in Amman was crying, she said 'Take me with you,' al-Nueimi said late Friday. But he said their request was rejected.
An adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saddam would be executed before 6 a.m. Saturday, or 10 p.m. Friday EST. Also to be hanged at that time were Saddam's half-brother Barzan Ibrahim and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, the former chief justice of the Revolutionary Court, the adviser said.
The time was agreed upon during a meeting Friday between U.S. and Iraqi officials, said the adviser, who declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.
Saddam will be handed over shortly before the execution, the official said. The physical transfer of Saddam from U.S. to Iraqi authorities was believed to be one of the last steps before he was to be hanged. Saddam has been in U.S. custody since he was captured in December 2003.
Al-Nueimi said U.S. authorities were maintaining physical custody of Saddam to prevent him from being humiliated before his execution. He said the Americans also want to prevent the mutilation of his corpse, as has happened to other deposed Iraqi leaders.
The Americans want him to be hanged respectfully, al-Nueimi said. If Saddam is humiliated publicly or his corpse ill-treated that could cause an uprising and the Americans would be blamed, he said.
Munir Haddad, a judge on the appeals court that upheld Saddam's death sentence, said he was ready to attend the hanging and that all the paperwork was in order, including the red card.
All the measures have been done, Haddad said. There is no reason for delays.
As American and Iraqi officials met in Baghdad to set the hour of his death, Saddam's lawyers asked a U.S. judge for a stay of execution.
Saddam's lawyers issued a statement Friday calling on everybody to do everything to stop this unfair execution. The statement also said the former president had been transferred from U.S. custody, though American and Iraqi officials later denied that.
Al-Maliki said opposing Saddam's execution was an insult to his victims. His office said he made the remarks in a meeting with families of people who died during Saddam's rule.
Our respect for human rights requires us to execute him, and there will be no review or delay in carrying out the sentence, al-Maliki said.
State television ran footage of the Saddam era's atrocities, including images of uniformed men placing a bomb next to a youth's chest and blowing him up in what looked like a desert, and handcuffed men being thrown from a high building.
About 10 people registered to attend the hanging gathered in the Green Zone before they were to go to the execution site, the Iraqi official said.
Those cleared to attend the execution included a Muslim cleric, lawmakers, senior officials and relatives of victims of Saddam's brutal rule, the official said. He did not disclose the location of the gallows.
Raed Juhi, spokesman for the High Tribunal court that convicted Saddam, said documents related to the execution would be read to Saddam before the execution. The documents included the red card, al-Maliki's signed approval of the sentence and the appeal court's decision.
On Thursday, two half brothers visited Saddam in his cell, a member of the former dictator's defense team, Badee Izzat Aref, told The Associated Press by telephone from the United Arab Emirates. He said the former dictator handed them his personal belongings.
A senior official at the Iraqi defense ministry also confirmed the meeting and said Saddam gave his will to one of his half brothers. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
Saddam's lawyers later issued a statement saying the Americans gave permission for his belongings to be retrieved.
An Iraqi appeals court upheld Saddam's death sentence Tuesday for the killing of 148 people who were detained after an attempt to assassinate him in the northern Iraqi city of Dujail in 1982. The court said the hanging should take place within 30 days.
There had been disagreements among Iraqi officials in recent days as to whether Iraqi law dictates the execution must take place within 30 days and whether President Jalal Talabani and his two deputies had to approve it.
In his Friday sermon, a mosque preacher in the Shiite holy city of Najaf called Saddam's execution God's gift to Iraqis.
Oh, God, you know what Saddam has done! He killed millions of Iraqis in prisons, in wars with neighboring countries and he is responsible for mass graves, said Sheik Sadralddin al-Qubanji, a member of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, known as SCIRI, a dominant party in al-Maliki's coalition. Oh God, we ask you to take revenge on Saddam.
I posted this 12 hours ago. Did it take you that long
Little language lesson for you. Could've, as in could have....subjunctive mood, hypothetical. Go figure. The only fools here are the ones who think the hate machine is going to resurrect their tanking campaign.
Coud'a Worked 80 hours too
But after 12 years at my other much better paying job that included 22 years with the company, they eliminated all 8 of our jobs. So here I am still at Medquist and a daughter just turning 18 and not working at all. Would you believe they did this on 11/04. Then I voted for McCain. I was disillusioned with Obama even when he was still running.
!3 hours, 57 minutes and Bush will be out, out out.
How many millions and millions and millions of other children are doing the same thing? Take me for example. 64 and counting every single second.
Hey Newton - parties are after hours?
THEIR personal life and they have a household BUDGET.
4 hours a day of rocking and chanting...........
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Children were scheduled several hours each a.m.
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That's most of Washington - he will fit right in
LOL
LOL I don't think I'd be too welcome in Washington.
We sent them to Washington............sm
and we can bring them home again. I say vote out every Congressman up there....regardless of his/her record....Ted Kennedy included.
Survey: How many hours a day do you spend on these boards? Please?! Thx. nm
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That makes the 3rd time this has been posted within the last 6-8 hours (nm)
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'a couple of hours??' Are you feeding charcoal?...nm
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He was signed up for Islamic teachings 4 hours
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How about the Washington Post?
How about this isn't a new story at all? How about the government lied to these poor parents, who lost their SON?! How about the COMMANDER IN CHIEF dishonored and disrespected Pat Tillman and his family? How about being so blind while unquestioningly idolizing a very false idol, a flawed, lying, devious, unethical, warmonging leader that you, as well, dishonor this woman and her son by still trying to use him as a Bush poster boy?
I have a feeling that when Fitzgerald is finished with his investigation (the crux of which is the nonexistent Iraq nuclear threat/lie that Bush used to sell this country on an illegal, immoral war) and the facts are disclosed, Bush and his cronies and his followers will be headed down the toilet. Maybe the Tidy Bowl Man will throw you a life preserver, not that you'd take it. People like you would be honored to drown in the same S***T as Bush.
Pat Tillman and his parents deserve to be honored. How many of YOUR children were killed in Iraq or Afghanistan by this lying president? Until you've lost one, you're simply not qualified to demean and disrespect those who did. You think you're some sort of proud American who claims to support the troops? You're a fraud. You're nothing but a heartless war monger and deserve no respect whatsoever.
Here. Have some more Kool Aid.
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST EARLIER THIS YEAR:
Tillman's Parents Are Critical Of Army
Family Questions Reversal On Cause of Ranger's Death
By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 23, 2005; A01
Former NFL player Pat Tillman's family is lashing out against the Army, saying that the military's investigations into Tillman's friendly-fire death in Afghanistan last year were a sham and that Army efforts to cover up the truth have made it harder for them to deal with their loss.
More than a year after their son was shot several times by his fellow Army Rangers on a craggy hillside near the Pakistani border, Tillman's mother and father said in interviews that they believe the military and the government created a heroic tale about how their son died to foster a patriotic response across the country. They say the Army's lies about what happened have made them suspicious, and that they are certain they will never get the full story.
Pat had high ideals about the country; that's why he did what he did, Mary Tillman said in her first lengthy interview since her son's death. The military let him down. The administration let him down. It was a sign of disrespect. The fact that he was the ultimate team player and he watched his own men kill him is absolutely heartbreaking and tragic. The fact that they lied about it afterward is disgusting.
Tillman, a popular player for the Arizona Cardinals, gave up stardom in the National Football League after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to join the Army Rangers with his brother. After a tour in Iraq, their unit was sent to Afghanistan in spring 2004, where they were to hunt for the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Shortly after arriving in the mountains to fight, Tillman was killed in a barrage of gunfire from his own men, mistaken for the enemy as he got into position to defend them.
Immediately, the Army kept the soldiers on the ground quiet and told Tillman's family and the public that he was killed by enemy fire while storming a hill, barking orders to his fellow Rangers. After a public memorial service, at which Tillman received the Silver Star, the Army told Tillman's family what had really happened, that he had been killed by his own men.
In separate interviews in their home town of San Jose and by telephone, Tillman's parents, who are divorced, spoke about their ordeal with the Army with simmering frustration and anger. A series of military investigations have offered differing accounts of Tillman's death. The most recent report revealed more deeply the confusion and disarray surrounding the mission he was on, and more clearly showed that the family had been kept in the dark about details of his death.
The latest investigation, written about by The Washington Post earlier this month, showed that soldiers in Afghanistan knew almost immediately that they had killed Tillman by mistake in what they believed was a firefight with enemies on a tight canyon road. The investigation also revealed that soldiers later burned Tillman's uniform and body armor.
That information was slow to make it back to the United States, the report said, and Army officials here were unaware that his death on April 22, 2004, was fratricide when they notified the family that Tillman had been shot.
Over the next 10 days, however, top-ranking Army officials -- including the theater commander, Army Gen. John P. Abizaid -- were told of the reports that Tillman had been killed by his own men, the investigation said. But the Army waited until a formal investigation was finished before telling the family -- which was weeks after a nationally televised memorial service that honored Tillman on May 3, 2004.
Patrick Tillman Sr., a San Jose lawyer, said he is furious about what he found in the volumes of witness statements and investigative documents the Army has given to the family. He decried what he calls a botched homicide investigation and blames high-ranking Army officers for presenting outright lies to the family and to the public.
After it happened, all the people in positions of authority went out of their way to script this, Patrick Tillman said. They purposely interfered with the investigation, they covered it up. I think they thought they could control it, and they realized that their recruiting efforts were going to go to hell in a handbasket if the truth about his death got out. They blew up their poster boy.
Army spokesmen maintain that the Army has done everything it can to keep the family informed about the investigation, offering to answer relatives' questions and going back to them as investigators gathered more information.
Army officials said Friday that the Army reaffirms its heartfelt sorrow to the Tillman family and all families who have lost loved ones during this war. Brig. Gen. Vincent K. Brooks, an Army spokesman, said the Army acts with compassion and heartfelt commitment when informing grieving families, often a painful duty.
In the case of the death of Corporal Patrick Tillman, the Army made mistakes in reporting the circumstances of his death to the family, Brooks said. For these, we apologize. We cannot undo those early mistakes.
Brooks said the Army has actively and directly informed the Tillman family regarding investigations into his death and has dedicated a team of soldiers and civilians to answering the family's questions through phone calls and personal meetings while ensuring the family was as well informed as they could be.
Mary Tillman keeps her son's wedding album in the living room of the house where he grew up, and his Arizona State University football jersey, still dirty from the 1997 Rose Bowl game, hangs in a nearby closet. With each new version of events, her mind swirls with new theories about what really happened and why. She questions how an elite Army unit could gun down its most recognizable member at such close range. She dwells on distances and boulders and piles of documents and the words of frenzied men.
It makes you feel like you're losing your mind in a way, she said. You imagine things. When you don't know the truth, certain details can be blown out of proportion. The truth may be painful, but it's the truth. You start to contrive all these scenarios that could have taken place because they just kept lying. If you feel you're being lied to, you can never put it to rest.
Patrick Tillman Sr. believes he will never get the truth, and he says he is resigned to that now. But he wants everyone in the chain of command, from Tillman's direct supervisors to the one-star general who conducted the latest investigation, to face discipline for dishonorable acts. He also said the soldiers who killed his son have not been adequately punished.
Maybe lying's not a big deal anymore, he said. Pat's dead, and this isn't going to bring him back. But these guys should have been held up to scrutiny, right up the chain of command, and no one has.
That their son was famous opened up the situation to problems, the Tillmans say, in part because of the devastating public relations loss his death represented for the military. Mary Tillman says the government used her son for weeks after his death, perpetuating an untrue story to capitalize on his altruism -- just as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal was erupting publicly. She said she was particularly offended when President Bush offered a taped memorial message to Tillman at a Cardinals football game shortly before the presidential election last fall. She again felt as though her son was being used, something he never would have wanted.
Every day is sort of emotional, Mary Tillman said. It just keeps slapping me in the face. To find that he was killed in this debacle -- everything that could have gone wrong did -- it's so much harder to take. We should not have been subjected to all of this. This lie was to cover their image. I think there's a lot more yet that we don't even know, or they wouldn't still be covering their tails.
If this is what happens when someone high profile dies, I can only imagine what happens with everyone else.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
And with Obama we will have Washington...
politics as usual, democrats and republicans toeing the party line, fighting and bickering and getting NOTHING done for the people. We will have higher taxes, fewer jobs, and an even higher deficit.
McCain/Palin are the only ones talking about crossing party lines, putting all parties on the cabinet, and trying to break the battleground that Washington has become. THis board is a PERFECT example of what is happening in Washington. Party first, they hate each other, would rather eat dirt than agree on anything. If this country is going to go forward, that needs to STOP.
That is why I am voting McCain/Palin. Country first is not just a slogan to me. It needs to be DONE.
In watching images today of 9-11 on this sad anniversary...having a President who understands terrorism and how to deal with it is imperative. I have absolutely zero faith in Obama's ability to do that.
working in Washington?
The thing that everyone is forgetting is that not everyone is in Washington right now working - there are some people there trying to work out the details and everyone else will just vote when it is handed to them.
In fact, they said that things were going better before McCain and Obama got there, that once McCain got there things started going downhill because there are a group of Republicans who do not want to support the package that their Republican President is wanting passed.
Now, I don't know if I would support it or not if I was there, but I don't think that it is a requirement that every Senator be in that room while they are working on the details.
I am not a Democrat, I am not a Republican - don't know yet for sure which way I am going - but I do not fault Obama for not automatically running to Washington just because McCain did. In fact, from all the information I have gather this morning, McCain did not contribute anything to the conversation yesterday anyway. 
THAT is the way Washington works now.
They can't help but add pork. It's in their genes. Only one ticket is talking about changing that. Only one ticket has a non Washington insider on it. Obama is right...we need REAL change, but the thing is, he is NOT real change. He is more of the same. Real change is McCain/Palin.
Washington Redskins
LOL my husband told me that he heard that whenever the Redskins win right before an election the incumbent party usually wins the election.
Mccain has a chance! The Redskins are winning!
Haha just thought you might get a kick out of this. My DH is such a football junkie!
Big 3 to return to Washington.. sm
Say they have made concessions in order to receive $25 billion. 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97682039&ft=1&f=1001
Lobbyists in Washington
If you mean the Wall Street crash, causing by mtg backed securities wrapped up into investments and then sold with the thought "housing will continue to gain in value or at least, hold their value in the investment vehicle," that has nothing to do with politics. Bush made a speech "more Americans own homes today than at any other time in the history of the country." And it was true, even if the home owners weren't credit worthy or the mtg were ARMs or floating (interest upfront) and needed to be refi'ed at some point in the future for the mtg holder to afford them. Following home values make it hard to refi a house, as everyone knew.
These men who sunk the world economy knew exactly what they were doing. Many became quite wealthy due to it.
The loss of the stock values that ensued, as I have followed it closely, made no real sense. the Paulson Bailout was a guise to give banks money to purchase other banks, not save Main Street. A few very wealthy people call the shots. And, it appears, even they are being swindled by their business partners.
Greed is the root of all evil and evil thrives when good men do nothing - or choose to do nothing for a number of reasons.
Bush looks happy as a lark even as his countrymen are facing the brink of of a recession not seen since the Great Depression.
The people of this country are to blame in the end for allowing it to continue. The U.S. is For the People, By the People and Of the People. Buck stops with the people.
This is washington at its worst
What an absolutely lying piece of garbage this guy is. The dems want to pass all their little pork projects at the tax payers expense. He certainly is not going to be paying any in taxes for this...WE ARE!!! I'm sick of crooked politicians getting up saying... the American people don't care. The American people want this or don't want that, when it's a blatant lie. News flash...he doesn't care about the American people. He should be among the top to be thrown out of DC. Talk about the ol BP rising today.
I hope you all enjoy working an extra 10 or 20 hours
So you can give it to Obama to give to the people who don't work. I'd rather spend the time with my famiy.
Yeah, well, I've worked 80+ hours this week....sm
like I do every week. I've been busy watching the spell Obama has over you......so gullible. And I'll be watching to see how long it takes for you to become disillusioned.
There's tumbleweeds rolling around in Washington
because everybody else is gone on a real vacation. If I recall correctly he's been making public appearances and working while in Texas. Oh, excuse me, he was WORKING on his ranch last week and got sunburned, but if you qualify that as vacationing then I throw up my hands. He could let government paid staff do the work, but then you'd be whinning about that too!
What about Madison, Washington, Adams,
What about these other guys?
The civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State. Madison (1819)
Congress should not establish a religion and enforce the legal observation of it by law, nor compel men to worship God in any manner contrary to their conscience, or that one sect might obtain a pre-eminence, or two combined together, and establish a religion to which they would compel others to conform (Madison, Annals of Congress, 1789).
Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects? that the same authority which can force a citizen to contribute three pence only of his property for the support of any one establishment, may force him to conform to any other establishment in all cases whatsoever? (Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance)
Because we hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, that religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence. The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. (ibid)
How a regulation so unjust in itself, so foreign to the authority of Congress, and so hurtful to the sale of public land, and smelling so strongly of an antiquated bigotry, could have received the countenance of a committee is truly a matter of astonishment . (Madison, 1785, letter to James Monroe, on a failed attempt by congress to set aside public funds to support churches)
That religion, or the duty we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience. (Patrick Henry)
I am persuaded, you will permit me to observe that the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction. To this consideration we ought to ascribe the absence of any regulation, respecting religion, from the Magna-Charta [Constitution] of our country (George Washington, 1789).
In the course of the opposition to the bill in the House of Delegates, which was warm & strenuous from some of the minority, an experiment was made on the reverence entertained for the name & sanctity of the Saviour, by proposing to insert the words Jesus Christ after the words our lord in the preamble, the object of which would have been, to imply a restriction of the liberty defined in the Bill, to those professing his religion only. The amendment was discussed, and rejected by a vote of agst. (James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance)
Whilst we assert for ourselves a freedom to embrace, to profess and observe the Religion which we believe to be of divine origin, we cannot deny equal freedom to those whose minds have not yet yielded to the evidence which has convinced us. If this freedom be abused, it is an offense against God, not against man: To God, therefore, not to man, must an account of it be rendered. (ibid)
The appropriation of funds of the United States for the use and support of religious societies, [is] contrary to the article of the Constitution which declares that 'Congress shall make no law respecting a religious establishment' (James Madison, Veto, 1811)
It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it was by the indulgence of one class of the people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that those who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it, on all occasions, their effectual support. (George Washington, letter to the Touro Synagogue 1790. )
We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions ... shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power ... we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society. (John Adams)
The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.... (John Adams, 1787)
As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of government to protect all conscientious protesters thereof, and I know of no other business government has to do therewith. (Thomas Paine, the Rights of Man)
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish [Muslim], appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the profession of a priest for the sake of gain, and in order to qualify himself for that trade he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive anything more destructive to morality than this? (Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason)
What I saw was old washington poltiics as usual....
and a new fresh face and real change. Guess which was which. Biden is the poster boy for what is WRONG with this country.
Yes, especially if you live in a state like Washington...
with no income tax. A big lot of the taxes come from property tax. Now, I don't even live there, but I still pay a share of the taxes, plus income tax in another state. But, I guess what can you do? It's the price I must pay for working hard enough to own my own little slice of heaven, even if the military says I don't get to live there.
We the people march on Washington, DC
I found and joined resistnet.com because I love my country. It is a very sad, sad day to see it marching towards marxism/socialism, which has failed in every country it has been tried.
Do you love this country? Does the blood shed for our freedoms still matter to you? If so, then please take a moment and join the "We the People" March on Washington DC. This group is a grassroots planning and organizing effort to put on a peaceful demonstration on May 30, 2009. We are looking for conservatives to join us and assist us in preserving our Consitution and holding our elected officials accountable to the oath of office they have sworn to. We need you to join us and get involved on the State level marches that will also be held across the country. Every state is participating!
Don't you think it's time we fire any elected official who doesn't uphold, protect, and preserve our 'We the People's" Constitution?
Please join us and invite your friends and families also.
http://www.resistnet.com/group/wethepeoplemarchonwashington
I don't think Washington gets the fact WE are their employer.....
And to think on September 18, 2008, they were ready to impose Martial Law because our entire economic and political infrastructure was headed toward collapse? THAT'S SCARY. So much for "Land of the Free" eh?
I bet the Washington "bigwigs" didn't sm
forego their raises and bonuses did they?
He left the campaign trail to go to washington...
palin did not go anywhere. As you said, too late to pull ads. He did not put out any new ads. The talking heads were out there to answer questions put to them by the media. What else was he supposed to do? Have the media start saying he was hiding from the media? Realllyyyy.
Nope. Because he DOES have experience in Washington as usual....
THAT was the point that I am sorry you missed, I should have been more clear. I apologize. Sarah Palin is the only one in this race who is not Washington politics as usual, and McCain is the only one saying Washington needs to be cleaned up and he means both parties. THAT is what we need. REAL change. Not more of the same old Washington politics.
And he does have experience in socialism and is invested in it. That kind of experience, with all due respect, is not what the country needs...in my opinion.
Big-3 corporate CEOs arrived in Washington in - sm
PRIVATE Lear jets to ask for a bailout. Proof positive that those people don't have a clue how to run a successful business, which is why the auto industry is now failing.
I don't want to see them get a penny only to squander it. Before I'd give a thumbs-up to any kind of a bailout, they need to:
a) SELL the jets.
b) Redesign, retool, and get out of bed with the oil industry, so they can get us independent of fossil fuels. If they had used their brains, and built cars that were equal to or better than the foreign manufacturers in quality, safety, and efficiency, they wouldn't be in this pickle. But no, they wanted their big profits NOW, and screw the future. Well, the future has now come and bit them in the behind.
c) Part of the retooling process should include dumping the CEOs (who are obviously worthless) and all upper management. The average Joe line-assemblyman could probably run those companies better than the fat-cat CEO's have been doing.
Glenn Beck: Does anyone in Washington Pay Taxes?
He's really getting ticked off again.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20937/
I thought Obama was going to unite Washington
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An archeological team digging in Washington DC
has uncovered 10,000 year old bones and fossil remains of what is believed to be the first Politician.
An interesting read from the Washington Post. sm
Draw your own conclusions on the state of the MT industry. Should we be worried? I would be as the gov't NEVER moves fast on anything unless it benefits them somehow. I had never heard of the HIMSS until I read the article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/15/AR2009051503667.html?wpisrc=newsletter
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