The constitution will most likely be changed for him.
Posted By: He is the messiah after all. nm on 2009-01-11
In Reply to: He had another chance to do that and he failed - jm
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Of course, this was all before 9/11, which, of course, changed everything. nm
He must have really changed
since the last time I watched his show then. Hmmm.
What has changed? sm
Obama stated after a landslide victory in 2004 in his bid for Illinois senator that he didn't feel he had the experience to run on a national ticket in 2008.
What has changed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU
I see you changed your name.
Stop the dang bashing. This is not a board for spelling police.
yes, he changed the story
"just a bit" to better prove his point that she was a reformer. Like his cross in the dirt story as a POW. When he first told it, it happened to someone else. It went over better when he changed it to first person. That is dangerous behavior. We have been through 8 years of information manipulation. Please no more.
He's changed his plan but yet again..
The McCain-Palin campaign has critized his tax plans as welfare, so Barack’s campaign has come back and tweaked it to add a work requirement. (They will materialize things out of thin air as needed to get elected.) This comes from the New Hampshire Union Leader in reply.
Glad to see not much has changed :)
politics as usual! :)
they have not changed the rules yet
Hedge funds are still doing sneak attacks on companies, driving them into the dirt.
Citigroup got hit today, down 23%. It is worth 6 bucks and one year ago was 40. They need to change the rules on these hedge funds. They can pick on any company and kill it in a day.
I never changed my moniker and always
posted inside my messages so my thoughts would not get lost. I take full credit for what I post and usually try to post anything of interest to others, so I don't care who knows my moniker. They can read or discard, but I will get my reasoning and/or thoughs/suggestions out there.
I've been bashed plenty of times prior to the election but I don't care. I still don't care who likes me or not. I get my thoughts out there and that's all that matters. I don't hide like some people on this board do, or change names. Running a post through the name part does no one any good except to tell everyone they don't want to use the comment part of the board. I usually bypass those.
I also suggest if anyone posts that they use (nm) or NM in their subject if they have nothing else to say. I spend a lot of time opening a message to find nothing underneath that post. To me that is waste of time.
I thought they changed it to anyone
making over 235,000 now. I will have to look that up.
because the situation OVER THERE CHANGED,
Taliban in Pakistan is getting stronger!
Think and get more flexible.
they changed that $250K...
Now they're saying more like $200K and going lower. And let's just face it. 20 bucks or $200K, everybody is gonna pay more taxes.
Do you think men don't come back from all wars changed? SM
What war is worth fighting for? Explain that to me. During World War II, ten times the men that have died in Iraq in two years died in one day. How many is too many? What is worth fighting for?
So you think the genocidal Saddam changed
That's the real question here. Have you listened to his tirades during his circus of a trial? Anyone who believed Saddam changed from being mentally unstable genocidal megalomanic while still the dictator of Iraq has to be the most naive person on Earth. Because he is demonstrating in court that he's still a megalomanic. The U.N. gave them adequate time to straighten up and fly right, and as you know the U.N. is having major corruption problems, so any agreements we have with them are shaky at best. You are right on one statement. The war in Iraq was wayyyy overdue.
Maybe he changed his mind like Palin sm
changed her mind on the whole Bridge to Nowhere fiasco. She makes a bid to-do about it in her speech, about how she shot it down or opposed it, but in the beginning she was all for it. I guess she changed her mind like Biden changed his mind about McCain. Or how the McCain's changed their mind on what was behind the adoption of their daughter.
Okay....then let's just say neither of them are liars. They just changed their minds.
I'll go with that. My entire point is that you can't really call one of them a liar and say the other just "changed his/her mind."
Looks like McCain changed his mind again. sm
In October 2007 McCain had the following to say, referring to Romney and Giuliani I believe, when they were all starting out in the Rep. nomination process. I bolded the part he seemed to have changed his mind on. I am sure if SP wasn't his running mate now he might feel the same way he did back them.
"I have had a strong and a long relationship on national security, I've been involved in every national crisis that this nation has faced since Beirut, I understand the issues, I understand and appreciate the enormity of the challenge we face from radical Islamic extremism. I am prepared. I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time."
has anyone changed Pres choice in
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Nope, I haven't changed. s/m
I will be voting AGAINST McCain or for Obama whichever way you want to look at it. As I have listened carefully to Obama, particularly on his infomercial, I find that I like him more and believe in him more. I still have a problem with his church but then I guess there is still Congress and there is STILL the people who can put pressure on Congress if need be.
What I said was that I COULD change my mind, let's say if Obama pulled a really big boner (doubtful) between now or Tuesday or McCain said something that convinced me he was the better of the candidates. I don't expect either to happen. I don't know if the people voting for McCain have heard different speaches by him and Palin and I've been out in lala land or what but all I have heard them do is talk about what Obama is going to do and not do, scare tactics, nothing about their plans. In other words the whole McCain campaign has been about trashing Obama. I think that Obama has handled all the trashing very professionally and has looked quite presidential.
Okay - I agree that the site has been changed; however -
I think the first time it was posted, someone just did not put all the information there by mistake. You can see by the links I posted below that it was never the intent to make it mandatory for everyone, but mandatory in order to receive the college credit of $4000.
We are all transcriptionists and we all know how easy it is to make mistakes while typing - somebody just left out part of what they were supposed to type there.
Unfortunately changed started 8 years ago. n/m
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Yes.....changed the subject from Obama.......sm
to anchor babies growing up to be president. And didn't I say that I would help you rant and rail over it when the time comes?
If a person is born on US soil, they are considered a US natural born citizen unless they choose to denounce it. They are therefore "endowned with certain inalienable rights" one of them being citizenship.
That is correct.... it can be edited and changed by
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Well, actually, the constitution says war
Congress did NOT declare war.....Bush started a war but did not declare war...He got around that by saying we were going in because of other things and would be out quickly but, of course, it was a war and we are definitely not out. Not one candidate has the guts to say they would be pulled immediately except for Ron Paul.
The constitution has very little to do with it,
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Constitution? (sm)
Isn't that the huge red, white and blue monster that Bush slayed with his shining Patriot Act sword? I thought it was dead.
We haven't changed the rules at all. To what are you referring?
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yeah well America's morals have changed
interracial marriages used to be illegal. One day we ill look upon the ban against gay marriage to be as rediculous of a notion as not allowing blacks to go to school with whites. The times, they are a changin!
This is the year 2008 - times have changed
So you think that because you work at home that's the way it should be for everyone. Sorry but this is the year 2008. I for one am glad that woman are out working in society/public. I'm glad that a mother can also be a govenor or senator or anything they want to be. My working at home is my choice. Thank goodness we as woman have that choice. And thanks to people like Sarah Palin it can only get better for us.
You changed your mind? your opinion from yesterday....sm
My, you are all over the board sometimes....
http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/v/11/33417.html
Changed my mind, wanta hear what I did?
First, husband went to bed. I'm watching SNL and dying laughing but can't stand commercials. Now that that is out of the way.
With that out of the way.........as for the face scratching...I dunno. Once I was addressing a rather respected, dignified person and being a person who can't talk without my hands, I realized instead of using my index finger for my emphasis, I was using my middle finger. I wasn't flipping him off but I'm surprised he didn't write me off. One of my most embarrassing moments.
Back to SNL at least until the next commercial
FYI - her original post didn't contain *****, it was changed
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And if you notice it also says he changed his site and took the words out...
and I tend to believe the word require was actually there.
UPDATE II: Oopsie. Change-O, Government-O drops the word "require" from their vocabulary in Obama's Change.gov website on "voluntary service" for Obama's new "Youth Corps" program.
Right.
UPDATE III: Obama forgot to remove "require" in one of his Change.gov website on service requirement,
I guess the throngs that changed his name at rallies...
or at least SOME of them have become a little disenchanted. Good for them. Can we recall a President? lol.
1. Article VI of the U.S. Constitution
makes treaties into which the U.S. has entered the supreme Law of the Land. The United States is a signatory to the U.N. Charter, and under the UN Charter, there is no clear legal authority for war on Iraq. Accordingly, if the war violates international law then it also thereby violates U.S. law.
2. While the President is the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, Congress alone has the power to declare war.
Oh, pul-eeeze. The Constitution says nothing about it
basically no rights at all.
Okay, so let's say you, as a pro-lifer-person, talk with some woman into having a child she didn't plan, doesn't want, can't afford, will get her kicked out of her house, or whatever. So she has it. Then what? Do you just go on your merry way forever after, or are you prepared to take some responsibility for having meddled in this hypothetical woman's private affairs, and help to raise, get medical care for, and educate this child?
74.19% McCain, 70.97 with the Constitution....
party candidate. In the single digits with Obama.
You think our Constitution's adherence
is grasping at straws? I think you lost your grasp on reality. If he has nothing to hide, what's the big deal? See, this is what people do when they don't want to own up to something, is bury it in our complicated justice system.
Besides, the attorney who filed this lawsuit is a lifelong DEMOCRAT. Hard to swallow, I know, but follow it with some of your Obama Koolaid and it'll all feel better.
What a dimwit...the constitution has EVERYTHING
least it did until freeloaders and jackasses got ahold of it and have turned it into a joke almost.
Gun Rights Per the Constitution
I posted this, but didn't see it, so I'm posting it again.
Gun Rights per the Constitution [2008-10-29]
Subject: Gun Rights per the Constitution Can anyone HONESTLY condone this? I'd also like to know who told him he can decide who to take money from and give to another. For those of you making $50K (for example), don't get ticked when possibly half of it goes to an MT who makes $25. That's his plan, and don't try to deny it. Once you go down this road it's basically impossible to turn back. Look at Cuba and Venezuela, for examples. http://www.rense.com/general83/obmaa.htm They will be trying to come for our guns
There's always the Constitution Party....sm
Chuck Baldwin is their candidate. I really like his platform as he is very conservative and has some really good ideas. Unfortunately, I doubt there is much chance he will win, but if feeling good about your vote is important to you, then check him out.
http://www.baldwin08.com/
You think the constitution should be amended?????
That is treason. You have no right to change our constitution.
You think it's logic to change it just so you get what you want?
You need to let it go.
Read the Constitution lately?
Do you embody the philosophy and beliefs of every single person you have ever encountered in your life time? I spent 50 years of my life listening to a staunch Goldwater republican preach her sermons to me, sometimes on a daily basis. This was my own mother. Not an ounce of it rubbed off on me.
It is not shocking or disturbing to me in the least that Rev Wright, who grew up in the midst of the 60s turmoil, embraces this world view. My understanding of Obama's relation to him and to the community outreach programs of Trinity Church is different than yours. I find Rev Wright's "extremism" no different than the extremism that comes pouring out of the evangelical Christian Right. If they are to be tolerated, then so is he. It's called inclusion and it is what America aspires toward.
Throughout his lifetime, Obama has demonstrated the capacity to LISTEN to opposing viewpoints, analyze them and put them into proper perspective. This is a quality that I admire in a candidate who seeks to bring unity among us. The first step toward accomplishing that is the ability to examine ALL viewpoints, to identify common threads that each share with one another, create policy on centrist positions that involve compromise on the part of the exteme factions and to promote those policies for the common good of all Americans. That is what putting country first is REALLY all about.
Good luck will selling that idea that the notion of equality for all is a socialist precept.
Since the Constitution does not state
That to be POTUS the parents of a US born child also has to be US born themselves....then that's what I mean. Maybe you should study up on the Constitution. It was written for a reason.
Another trouncing of the Constitution? sm
It seems this will never end. I'm beginning to think, in light of this election and everything surrounding it, that Bush was right......"It's just a piece of paper."
Barack Obama has appointed Sen. Hillary Clinton has secretary of state, an appointment America's Founding Fathers forbade in the U.S. Constitution.
The constitutional quandary arises from a clause that forbids members of the Senate from being appointed to civil office, such as the secretary of state, if the "emoluments," or salary and benefits, of the office were increased during the senator's term.
The second clause of Article 1, Section 6, of the Constitution reads, "No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office."
DurClinton's current term in the Senate, the salary for Cabinet officers was increased from $186,600 to $191,300. Since the salary is scheduled to again be raised in January 2009, not only Clinton but all sitting Senate members could be considered constitutionally ineligible to serve in Obama's Cabinet.
For more info........ http://wnd.com:80/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82374
I have to wonder if you were so upset about the constitution (sm)
while Bush was butchering it over at least the last 4 years.
Demise of the USA and Constitution?...
OK ... maybe I've not been paying enough attention ... so I was a bit unaware when I got this info in my email inbox last week ...
I think it's worth some attention ... tho I can't pretend to know all the answers ...
I've VERY concerned about the concept, and the "predictions" ...
Here's the message:
IT'S ALREADY STARTED FOLKS..BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON....
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text
SENATE BILL S. 2433 THE GLOBAL POVERTY ACT
According to David Bossie, President of the group 'Citizens United for American Sovereignty', based out of Merrifield Virginia , website: http://www.citizensunited.org/
the above- mentioned Senate Bill (S. 2433) is a piece of legislation in the works that all Americans need to know about and know now!
This bill, sponsored by none other than Sen. Barack Obama, with the backing of Joe Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, and liberal democrats in Congress, is nothing short of a massive giveaway of American wealth around the world, and a betrayal of the public trust, because, if passed, this bill would give over many aspects of our sovereignty to the United Nations.
The noble sounding name of this bill, 'The Global Poverty Act' is actually a Global Tax, payable to the United Nations, that will be required of all American taxpayers. If passed in the Senate, the House has already passed it, this bill would require the U.S. to increase our foreign aid by $65 BILLION per year, or $845 BILLION over the next 13 years! That's on top of the billions of dollars in foreign aid we already pay out!
In addition to the economic burdens this potential law would place on our precarious economy, the bill, if passed in the Senate, would also endanger our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms by obligating us to meet certain United Nations mandates.
According to Senator Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U.S. spending. What are they?
n The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection from the U.S. Constitution.
n A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.
n A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
n The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.
Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen. Joe Biden sits) approved this plan by a voice vote without any discussion! Why all the secrecy? If Senators Obama and Biden are so proud of this legislation, then why don't they bring it out into the light of day and let the American people have a look at it instead of hiding it behind closed doors and sneaking it through Congress for late night votes.
It may be only a matter of time before this dangerous legislation reaches a floor vote in the full body of the Senate.
Please write or call, email your representatives, the White House, the media, or anyone you think will listen, and express your opinions regarding this Global Tax giveaway and betrayal of the American people at a time when our nation and our people are already heavily burdened with the threats to our freedoms and economic prosperity.
No, the "hatched job" on the constitution is already
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Yawn. The constitution is and always has been
The founding fathers set it up that way. That's why we have provisions for amendments...a basic concept that seems to escape you. While you are on that soap box about free speech, please explain to me why Obama's comments about H, OR and RL do not qualify without his being subjected to all this terminal self-righteous indignation? Arguments based on false premises do not merit further comment.
New preable to the Constitution
This is probably the best e-mail I've seen in a long, long time. The following has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell Kaye from GA. This guy should run for President one day...
'We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional. We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights.
ARTICLE I:
You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II:
You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III:
You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV:
You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.
ARTICLE V:
You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're
just not interested in public health care.
ARTICLE VI:
You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair
ARTICLE VII:
You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE VIII:
You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.
ARTICLE IX:
You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
ARTICLE X:
This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you came from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from!
ARTICLE XI:
You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!
It's about time common sense is allowed to flourish. Sensible people of the United States must speak out because if you do not, who will?
But the bible is not the same as the constitution
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