The concept is similar to any group plan.
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without compromising the care. It is the FEHB (Federal Employees health Benefits) program. It is really good coverage, low deductibles, several choices. Heres the home page website:
http://www.opm.gov/insure/05/index.asp
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similar to o's rambling over and over and
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Vermont has a similar program. nm
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Sounds similar to what some Repubs. were
doing to some Jewish people.
Sean Hannity does something similar. sm
Every Thursday or Friday he does what he calls, "Man in the Street" interview. He has one of his staffers go out in NY and pick random people to talk to him via cell phone. The staffers usually try to get a good cross-section but it seems that most of the ones they get are the late teens and 20 somethings. Anyway...he asked them basic questions such as who was the Sec'y of State. Nobody knew. Half of the people did not even know who the VP was. I was absolutely floored by their abysmal ignorance.
And these are the people who will be voting in 2012 and beyond.
I'm sure Wright has been preaching similar sentiments
for the 20 years Obama has belonged to the church, implying IMO he agrees.
The political image/persona he's tried to build for himself (all politicians do it) has just been shot full of holes.
Knowing Wright's rhetoric why does he stay a member to this day??
If you've listened and watched the full sermon it is very disturbing, and I don't see any "cherry picking" in the media I so love to hate. That remark on Obama's part could be taken as his defending the diatribe.
I hope this bombshell doesn't go away - people need to know where Obama is really coming from.
I briefly thought something similar when I first heard of him,
and the 'funny name' became a total non-issue. And I'm voting for him specifically BECAUSE he's had less 'experience' (i.e., he's not corrupted like all them good ol' boys.)
I posted a similar question yesterday. sm
I asked what exactly their beef was about O's speech? The silence on this is deafening. I for one felt extremely proud of my country yesterday while listening to that speech. Finally, a president that has the gonads to not only stand up and be firm, but be willing to admit that we have made mistakes as well and at the same time be respectful of another's culture and it's okay that we don't cram democracy down everyone's throat like Bush wanted to do. And the US has made numerous mistakes and it's okay to accept responsibility in that -- yet O gets lamblasted by the right for making apologies. SO WHAT? It takes a lot of class and maturity to admit to being wrong, and guess what you get in return -- something this country has not gotten in a long time -- RESPECT! He now has the daunting task of trying to mend 8 years of damage done by a cocky, swaggering cowboy who did not know the first thing about showing respect for anyone else and this whole country should be behind him 100% in his efforts in this instead of constantly browbeating him and criticizing EVERYTHING he does!!
interesting article, have read many similar these past few days...
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1231-23.htm
Not a new concept
all kinds of stuff. Bush was blamed for Katrina (blowing up the levees and then deliberately not sending aid) and 9/11 (it was an inside job, you know - Ask Rosie O'Donnell.) According to a popular conspiracy theory, AIDS was created by the US government in the late 1970s (Carter's watch - go figure) to kill black people. Only fair to *spread the wealth,* so to speak, when blame is assigned and give Obama his share.
Hey wait a minute! Maybe none of these conspiracy theories is true and stuff just happens?
Do you understand the concept of some? SM
Apparently not. Evident on the board....let's see, how about wishing all the Bush family to burn in hell for starters? How about accusing Laura Bush of being drunk when she was driving and her friend was killed? Hummmm....how about saying repeatedly that President Bush planned 9/11 for his own nefarious reasons? And the list goes on. As far as Judge Robert's son, the NYT article was discussed on here and had you read it and the followup, you would know this is being discussed. The word SOME means NOT ALL. Look outside the box.
exercise - what a concept
Put down that liter of diet coke and that supersize bag of Cheetos and meet me at the teeter totter.
Do you understand that concept of
The economy, national security and human rights as promoted in the EU and US are SECULAR concepts. When contemplating international relations, it would be best to keep that in mind.
Clearly, the concept of NWO is not monolithic.
In the brevity of this article, the author cited 5 entirely different models as expressed by HG Wells, the American Presidents/League of Nations (LON), W, conspiracy theorists (CTs) on the blogosphere, and Kissinger. These separate sets of ideas are not interchangeable, nor are the mutually exclusive.
A common feature of Wells (benevolent global social democracy), W (imperial capitalism) and the CTs (a wildly elaborate weave of systemic paranoia and fear-based theories that defy logic or precise definition) is the idea of world domination, while the LON and Kissinger models are grounded in international diplomatic cooperation and, to a large extent, would preserve national sovereignties.
Supporters of the W and CTs models are pathologically phobic vis-a-vis the initiatives and agendas of the Wells, LON and Kissinger models. Resolution of territorial disputes, peace and security, disarmament, basic human dignities, human rights and humanitarian aid, definition, apprehension and prosecution of war crimes, outlawing torture, fighting global hunger, disease, illiteracy, educational and economic parity and such, all WAY too threatening for them.
You and I both know that the fringers, gloom and doom and Armageddon brigades will get themselves all whipped up into a frenzy over this, but apparently Kissinger has mellowed in his old age and is able to recognize a gifted leader with the capacity to renew our aspirations towards such lofty diplomatic goals and get back in touch with our higher purpose.
A NWO is in order. The time is now to make a clean and distinct break with the past. The leader is there and the conditions are ripe for fruition. It will drive the detractors to distraction and despair, but they cannot hold back the hands of time any more than they can stop the evolution of the human race.
Are you familiar with the concept of
For example, African Americans, who are 1 in 13 of our pupulation, comprise every 2 out of 3 death row inmates. Do you honestly think they commit 2 out of every 3 murders punishable by the death penalty?
If a truly a serious discussion is to be had on this topic, the racism practiced in the criminal justice system when it comes to arrest, sentencing, time served, parole and execution rates disparities must be factored into the equation before assuming that the AA population commmits 40% of the nation's crime.
To answer your question, I do believe that Obama will make the greatest strides to date of leveling the playing field in the education, health care and poverty arenas and that it will undoubtedly enable that sector of the population to which you refer to strive to achieve better/higher goals by their own initiatives. He has already had a huge impact there just by virtue of having been elected and in the future, I believe his lead by example approach to this will have an even greater impact. I also think his message of hope rings the loudest where it is needed the most.
Very disturbing concept.
I don't believe it will pass the constitutional smell test, but you're right to be concerned about the potential for abuse - i.e., being used against citizens in the name of "national security". This very possibility is the reason the military services are strictly prohibited from conducting anything but humanitarian operations within the contintental US. It is also one of the reasons we have never had a federal police agency (as opposed to federal investigative and special enforcement agencies).
The record of such paramilitary organizations in other countries is rife with examples of abuse and we should absolutely march in the streets if necessary to prevent such an organization from ever being formed in this country.
Do you have any concept of what abuse of power is?
if you can turn off the hate machine long enough to remember how to do it. It was not Governor Palin's role to interfere in divorce/custody proceedings. Sister Palin could not have done what Governor Palin tried to do. She abuse the power of her office. We have already had 8 years of that kind of malarky. Most of us are not up for another 4. Got it?
What a concept, a politician who come to the Senate.....sm
with tons of experience in screwing people....and is not ashamed to record it!! I say she is uniquely qualified for the politics! IMHO
Agreed. Problem is that concept consistently
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WELFARE for the country as a nation, what a concept.....sm
a president with who is really fighting to find a way for the suffering folk, those that are down and out, or should we "just let them eat cake," Marie Antoinette? Now there's a leader who used her head, right to the chopping block, and it seems that the corporate raiders who raped this country into this mess were thinking the same thing, "Hey, I got mine!!"
You seem confused, dear. Militant is a military concept.
As soon as you and your party sports its bigotry and hate toward an entire religious population and their culture, attempt to pass it off as some sort of twisted, chest-beating patriotism, add insult to injury by labeling that patriotism as an universal American value and then proceed to use that to justify defaming a fellow American of such extraordinary class and character, you have earned every single drop of anger that you receive in return.
Wanna know who is truly angry and bitter? That would be those "lower bracket" citizens who have lost their homes, are 3 months behind on their mortgage payments, are unemployed, have been outsourced and sold out by their own government and are not making a living wage in an economy of runaway housing, gas, food, drug and medical costs. They are the ones who will be giving the boot to the party that would expect them to endure 4 more years of being lied to about the obscene, senseless wars they wage, politics of fear, corporate corruption and bankrolling tax cuts to help their struggling rich upper crusts and prop up their their trickle up economic schemes. We are down to counting lame duck days in measures of months, weeks, days, minutes and seconds. We have jumped the Hope Train to a better, brighter future and our destination is just around the bend.
Pathetic is knee-jerk support of a concept
just as long as you think it will serve some sort of political gain. If you can't defend you, your party of its candidate can't explain or defend their viewpoints, how then can they expect to win an election. I'm pathetic because I am calling you and the rest of the posters here to simply explain what it is they are endorsing? NOT.
So souls are inhaled at the hospital? Interesting concept. (sm)
I don't think any of the Jewish people I know believe that but I will ask them.
Whoa, that is actually like a Christmas Present from the IRS, what an unheard of concept!!!....sm
True, you can do it yourself, the IRS just makes so daunting and intimidating with all those forms, and then you worry if you make another mistake, you will get another penalty.....Just those three letters together give most folk the heebie geebies.
Also, taling about not needing a service, most people do not know that you DO NOT need those miriad of services who will "talk down your credit bills" and renegotiate. Especially in these times, banks are very eager to get payment and work with you, most banks have a "hardship" department where you can talk to reps who can negotiate lower settlements, eliminate fees, figure out a very good payment plan without fees, etc. You can do it yourself without paying a debt relief service.
Not only do I have a thicker skin - I also have a FULLY DEVELOPED brain-what a concept!!
I know it's hard a concept for the dems/libs, but Rush says what he means.
He doesn't sugar coat. He's got his problems, but he owns them. He doesn't dance around them, sweep them under the carpet, double talk his way out of it. I mean, we aren't going to wake up tomorrow and find out Rush has been hanging with terrorists, is a closet muslim, or the antichrist.
There's a certain honesty to Rush that some people like and others don't.
This group came to
Massachussetts when I was up there. They hit 3 places. The first was a high school graduation at a Catholic school. The went through all their anti-Catholic stuff from the usual Mary Purgatory stuff to over-the-top psychotic rantings about "fags." They were carrying signs and parading around. I felt so sorry for those kids but at least they just kept on keeping on. No name calling from their side, no recognition on their part at all that these people were even there. They knew in advance these wackos were coming and they were prepared. They behaved beautifully. The Kansas Group's second hit was a Catholic Sunday Mass where they held up signs of Pope John Paul (someone might want to tell them he is no longer the Pope) upside down with horns on his head. Again, all the anti-Catholic yada yada yada. And the third was at an elementary school the following Monday. A 4th grade girl had written an essay that won an award (don't know where or from whom) but it was about Ellen Degeneres so these people surrounded the school, scared the kids half to death shouting they were all going to hell and singled out the poor recipient of the award. Then, when their work was done they jumped on their bus and headed on to their next chosen-by-God-personally den of iniquity. I have not a smidgen of a doubt that these people hear God talking to them...in fact that is one of the most common manifestations of psychosis, overly religious, overly sexual...that sort of thing...sounds to me like they have covered all the required bases for a DSM-IV classification.
Same group was here in Wisconsin...
I posted on this about six weeks ago. This group was in a small town in Wisconsin near me and got EXTREMELY negative press, of course, so at least that was good. I did feel really really bad, though, for the family of the soldier that died and their being forced into this ridiculous spectacle.
I try to feel better about it by thinking these radical evangelical crazies come out in the open and end up revealing to the general American public how nuts they are that and that perhaps as a result some of the current Republican love affair with evangelicals may erode a bit. Now, of course, I realize they don't represent Christians in general.....I'll stop there.
What a nice group!!!!
Below is from the Protestwarrior website or else "RNC Watch":
Although the Protest Warriors usually make a big deal about how they have been the victims of leftist "violence," several of their recent bulletin board posts advocate carrying concealed weapons to demonstrations at the RNC. "I would bring pepper spray," writes one. "I will be utilizing my concealed weapons permit," writes another. "We should be prepared for violence," writes a third. These posts are similar to the infamous CraigsList NYC posting of more than a year ago in which a New Yoker wrote that "We need good old fashioned Conservatives, the kind that believe in God, Country, and Family (the Mom and Dad kind), the kind that played football, baseball, and basketball, to help with security [at the RNC]. This is totally separate from the organized Convention. We will meet the groups determined to disrupt the open discussion of ideas (the Convention) with a group of our own and battle them in the streets of New York."
You can also see picture of the founders of Protest Warriors lovingly cradling high-powered fire-arms on the PW website. "ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed," the site operators write.
![](http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg") (Picture Caption: The Founder of Protest Warriors) Recently, a small media stir was created by a tiny, right-wing fringe group known as the Protest Warriors.
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Yes. We are a group of individuals.
Did you lose your dictionary?
any group that insists its
beliefs are the only true beliefs, works actively to force those beliefs on me, believes men rode around on dinosaurs, and wants to control my reproductive organs, and keep my children in the dark about their sexual function is not my enemy, but I do avoid them. Oh, and Jehovah's Witnesses banging on my door -- I avoid them too.
There are fanatics in any group
and usually they are an embarrassment to the rest of that group, and usually are the most hypocritical. I can't speak for other Christians, but I do apologize to anyone who has been made uncomfortable by one. Usually a "no thanks" should suffice. :)
Why does anyone or any group want you to vote?
To support their agenda. That goes for democrats, republicans....Obama's agenda is socialism. Thanks, but no thanks.
group of cells.......
Gee, yea, we were a group of cells. That is how God planned it to be, so just because you were a group of cells, you would have hoped your mother would dispose of you JUST because you were a group of cells on the way to making a human being?
Just out of curiousity, exactly what group
of people would fall in the category of *redneck ignoramouses?* I have heard the term redneck before and kind of get a mental picture when I hear that. I would just like to know for sure. You seem so knowledgeable about the monkey issue. Thanks.
Not a group I'd ever want to be included in.
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this is what my moms group said
when I would not get pregnant, even though I had a several kids.
Not Republican enough! Ha!Ha! Not mommies and me enough!
Oh, please. Any group has their nutcases.
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Every group has their nut jobs.
You cannot group all conservatives into that category especially since there are just as many nut jobs on the liberal side. Get over yourself and give me a break!
glad to see you and weepaws are having that big group hug
Pat yourselves on the back I'm sure you are both loving parents. Congrats!
Sarah Palin is too. To try to insinuate she doesn't love her kids because she works outside the home is too absurd.
That's nice you can both work at home. That is a choice we have been able to make due to people like Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin wants to make the country a better place. That is a very admireable trait in her.
Listening to you two talk you are sending us back to the 1940s and 1950s where a woman's place was in the home, in the kitchen, barefoot and having babies.
If your for Obama and Biden that's fine but to cut down someone who is trying to make the country a better place for her children and she has the loving support and help from her husband and family there is nothing wrong with that.
Overall it sounds like you are quite nervous because Obama and Biden are going to have to do better than they have been to win. Your hatred and loathing is coming out. Just gives me the heebie jeebies to listen to it.
Why else would any religious group want you to vote?
Silly girl!
Replace all your dems with you. Do not group all...sm
the posts on this board to one party or the other. Whenever a lone person posts something that you don't agree with, you attribute it to all democrats. We do not all think alike. That is the wonderful thing about us, we do not march in step, we march to different drummers to a common cause.
Another rightwing slander group. Is that all you got? nm
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Another leftwing slander group. Is that all you got?- sm
You have no proof whatsoever to back any of this up.
This is about as good as when they said she banned books from the library and one of those books was Harry Potter. What the leftwing forgot to remember was Harry Potter hadn't even been written yet when they said she banned it.
The leftwingers are in a frenzy to try and trash McCain & Palin because it's not looking to great for Obama and Biden. If Obama and Biden were so great and "everyone" wanted him as president he would be soaring ahead in the polls. But he's not. He's neck and neck and depending on which poll you read he's either ahead or behind by just a few points.
Looks like the right-wing group is getting a little testy! (nm)
:p
CITI group bailout
Okay, MSN just said the new administration will go into significant deficit spending to fund programs and bailout. They are talking a 700 Billion package here. Can anyone tell me how they will do that and where does deficit money come from? Seriously. I don't get it. Are we losing more and more of our future personal security here? Does this get borrowed from other sources (as in the spending they did instead of funding our social security?) Without that Social Security income in my future (not too far off, I might add) on top of what I have lost in my 401K and IRA, I am doomed.
HAMAS is a terrorist group
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Like that group of scholars could determine anything....
how do we know WHO the cartoon meant? Get over it already. Unless the chimp is wearing a Hello, My Name is Obama sticker, we don't know who it represents. See the above thread about Holder regarding jumping to conclusions.
What hate group do you suppose you
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maybe common for your age group (my dear)
zoom, zoom, zoom
I think you have a misogynistic overtone. Look that up.
I definitely do not condone group sex, eeewww!...
It is one after the other!
All together, ewwww!
The group that met with Obama & Clinton in Chantilly, VA? nm
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