The child would be more at risk due to the enlarged ventricles and
Posted By: mtmt on 2008-10-30
In Reply to: Nope, OB/NICU nurse and midwife - LRS
pressure on the head. However, since you already know the child has hydrocephalus before she is born, you can make the choice as I did for C-section. I've done a lot of research on hydrocephalus the last 8+ years and I agree... this would not put the mother at high risk. And, hydrocephalus is not an immediate "vegetable" diagnosis by any means.
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Who in the world would want to give birth to a child a child conceived during rape?????..nm
Again:L How many children do you have?
Former 9/11 Commissioners: U.S. at Risk
Am I the only one who isn't surprised by this??
Former 9/11 Commissioners: U.S. at Risk
By HOPE YEN, Associated Press WriterSun Dec 4, 6:28 PM ET
The U.S. is at great risk for more terrorist attacks because Congress and the White House have failed to enact several strong security measures, members of the former Sept. 11 commission said Sunday.
It's not a priority for the government right now, said the former chairman, Thomas Kean, ahead of the group's release of a report Monday assessing how well its recommendations have been followed.
More than four years after 9/11 ... people are not paying attention, the former Republican governor of New Jersey said. God help us if we have another attack.
Added Lee Hamilton, the former Democratic vice chairman of the commission: We believe that another attack will occur. It's not a question of if. We are not as well-prepared as we should be.
The five Republicans and five Democrats on the commission, whose recommendations are now promoted through a privately funded group known as the 9/11 Public Discourse Project, conclude that the government deserves more Fs than As in responding to their 41 suggested changes.
Since the commission's final report in July 2004, the government has enacted the centerpiece proposal to create a national intelligence director. But the government has stalled on other ideas, including improving communication among emergency responders and shifting federal terrorism-fighting money so it goes to states based on risk level.
There is a lack of a sense of urgency, Hamilton said. There are so many competing priorities. We've got three wars going on: one in Afghanistan, one in Iraq and the war against terror. And it's awfully hard to keep people focused on something like this.
National security adviser Stephen Hadley said Sunday that President Bush is committed to putting in place most of the commission's recommendations.
Obviously, as we've said all along, we are safer, but not yet safe. There is more to do, Hadley said on Fox News Sunday.
Ex-commissioners contended the government has been remiss by failing to act more quickly.
Kean said the Transportation Security Administration was wrong to announce changes last week that will allow airline passengers to carry small scissors and some sharp tools. He also said the agency, by now, should have consolidated databases of passenger information into a single terror watch list to aid screening.
I don't think we have to go backward here, said Kean, who appeared with Hamilton on NBC's Meet the Press.
They're talking about using more money for random checks. Terrorists coming through the airport may still not be spotted, Kean said.
Kean and Hamilton urged Congress to pass spending bills that would allow police and fire to communicate across radio spectrums and to reallocate money so that Washington and New York, which have more people and symbolic landmarks, could receive more for terrorism defense.
Both bills have stalled in Congress, in part over the level of spending and turf fights over which states should get the most dollars.
This is a no-brainer, said Hamilton, a former Indiana congressman.
From the standpoint of responding to a disaster, the key responders must be able to talk with one another. They could not do it on 9/11, and as a result of that, lives were lost. They could not do it at (Hurricane) Katrina. They still cannot do it.
As for the dollar dispute, Hamilton said, We know what terrorists want to do: they want to kill as many Americans as possible. That means you protect the Washington monument and United States Capitol, and not other places.
Congress established the commission in 2002 to investigate government missteps that led to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Its 567-page final report, which became a national best seller, does not blame Bush or former President Clinton for missteps contributing to the attacks but did say they failed to make anti-terrorism a higher priority.
The commission also concluded that the Sept. 11 attack would not be the nation's last, noting that al-Qaida had tried for at least 10 years to acquire weapons of mass destruction.
Calling the country less safe than we were 18 months ago, former Democratic commissioner Jamie Gorelick said Sunday the government's failure to move forward on the recommendations makes the U.S. more vulnerable.
She cited the failure to ensure that foreign nations are upgrading security measures to stop proliferation of nuclear, biological and chemical materials, as well as the FBI's resistance to overhauling its anti-terror programs.
You remember the sense of urgency that we all felt in the summer of 2004. The interest has faded, the Washington lawyer said on ABC's Good Morning America. You could see that in the aftermath of Katrina. We assumed that our government would be able to do what it needed to do and it didn't do it.
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I risk getting banned, but all I can think of
reading your post is: STUPID and living in a sdmall village in the MIDWEST, right?
Hehehehehe!
No, They are willing to risk it to "save the economy"
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I think the risk to the hostage is too high...(sm)
to just storm them. France just did that to another one that had French hostages, and one of the hostages was killed during the raid. I really don't want these guys to get away, but if we're talking about the safety of the hostage, maybe the best thing right now is to pay the ransom and then go after them. I don't think they WANT to kill the hostage because then they get no money. Keep in mind, this is a source of income for them -- that's why they do it.
At the risk of sounding cold
I agree that it is a terrible thing that there has been no social security increase for 2 years. However, I must point out that I have actually seen a decrease in my income in the last 2 years. While I don't believe that they should be punished in their golden years, point of fact is that most of them do have their houses paid off. Their families are grown and gone. They are eligible for Medicare.
I believe it is endemic of the economy as a whole...obviously, if there's nobody working, there's nobody paying into social security. However, things are just as bleak out here for those of who who constitute the younger working poor, with mortgage/rent payments, medical insurance (if we can even get it), families to feed and dress, etc.
At the risk of being called one of the religious fanatics....
and lumping everyone together in one pile is not fair may I say...you believe in choice. You are taking choice away from the child. If the child was able to speak I am relatively sure it would not choose to be exterminated like vermin. You want to give all the power to the woman over her body...perhaps she should take some responsibility for that body and not fall back on extermination as a method of birth control. If abortion was stopped for all but rape, incest, and endangering life of the mother hundreds of thousands of babies would be saved every year. What happened to responsibility? Why was that abandoned in the name of choice? If you can speak for the choice of the woman, why can't some of us speak for the right to life of the child? If she has it and drowns in 10 days later, she is tried for murder. What a difference 10 days makes, eh??
As far as jobs going overseas...when our government taxes businesses into oblivion (happens in every Dem admin) jobs go overseas. Because we have the next to highest business taxes in the entire world. That discourages businesses coming here also...and the jobs those businesses would create...as well as sending jobs from here offshore. Or they close completely, and jobs are lost. I have gone up steadily in earnings since the Clinton administration. I am doing much better now than I was then.
Socialism (redistribution of wealth) does not work either. It never has. Cuba, Venezuela...it never works. All that happens in socialism is eventually the middle class disappears, and all you have is the upper crust (govt and cronies) and the rest of the people. And in that case the money stays at the top...it never quite gets to the "people" where it was promised it would go. I imagine the Venezuelan people are still waiting for their oil checks since the government took it over. Socialism doesn't work. It is a myth to get people to give over the power to the power brokers...in our case, the DNC. Be careful what you ask for....
At the risk of hastening my descent into the brimstone
I almost think you're the one who is making religion almost too easy. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of a scumbag you are, as long as you believe Jesis died for your sins. Which explains a lot about some of what the "faithful" have said. You have no reason to lead an upstanding life...as long as you believe, you can break every commandment and still bask in your god's glory. Nice...maybe I've been going about this all wrong. Contrary to what you may think, I do believe in Jesus, the trinity, etc. But I somehow had the misguided notion that God judged us based on our character. Boy, have I been wasting a lot of time and patience.
Okay, well at the risk of starting a world war, that link does not work.
It says Page Not Found. It appear Starcat was able to see it. Evidently, it really IS a left-right problem.
JBB, I like your thinking, but at the risk of "beating a dead horse," .......
Buy new computers = putting money in the economy = jobs for people to build computers.
Those computers are built in Japan, China, Korea, and almost every place in the world BUT the USA.
Just like last year when we got our "stimulus check." The only economies jump started, if any, were the ones overseas when everybody bought their TV's, computers etc.
Carrying a hydrocephalic fetus doesn't put the mother at high risk. Please.. nm
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oh yea... not a child...
even though before most know they are pregnant the heart is already beating...
I haven't seen the video, I don't think I need to because I myself will never have an abortion, but just like any procedure I would have done I would think I would want to know what it involves so you maybe someone having it should watch it!
I bet your child gives you
great joy. I am happy that you found a career where you can be home with your child. The anti-choice people seem to think as long as every child is BORN things are okay. It is the caring for them after they are born that does not seem too important to them.
If your child goes to an OB/GYN
or planned parenthood and does not want you to even know about the visit, she only has to fill out a small amount of paperwork and the state will pay for the visit--in California, anyway.
Why does a child
play with matches after a parent forbids it? To see if they can get away with it. ;-)
Were you ignored as a child?
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You are a child who cannot understand....
if you are Liberal, post on the Liberals board, etc.
So you take this to mean that you should continually harass the liberal board when you are obviously a con?
And as far as libs posting on the con board, prior to recently it was pretty darn quiet. And we libs are no match for your uncouth and wretched posts for sheer cruel intent. No match at all, in general.
I would also tell you the same thing I told my kids when they were little, just because so-and-so is doing it doesn't make it right. So when you run crying that libs are posting on the con board, it still doesn't make it right - for you or anyone else. So get out of a 6year-old mentality. Or are you a 6yearold?
and to me a child in the womb
is already on this Earth...these children are the most vulnerable, but yes I agree with you...we need to take care of those already born IN ADDITION to those in the womb.
The child has no rights?
Have you viewed the video referenced below? Do you really think abortion should be a method of birth control?
Who knows...if we who believe that the unborn child...
has as much right to life as you, your husband and your children (good thing for them you did not want an abortion I guess or they would not exist, we will continue to speak for them. And maybe, someday, the right person will hear, and we as a country can stop the slaughter of innocents to the tune of 1.2 million a year. While you are okay with that on the basis of your choice, we are not. And nothing you can say or do will ever change that either.
How can one's child being in the military sm
equate to a point for foreign affairs experience? Please explain that to me. I know a lot of people whose children are in the military, in the war zone and not one of them would say they have foreign affairs experience. Also, didn't she herself say she doesn't know anything about Iraq.
You try to keep the spotlight on the child.
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Maybe the child who got the A cheated or
give more money. Not all situations are the same. Furthermore, Obama is the first one to say "leave the kids out of it." He's for better education.
How can they support the child
if the child is aborted? Quite a few women get pregnant and have abortions without even saying anything to the father...
Keeping pants zipped goes both ways...
that is, if the child does not want the parents to know at all
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Ah. Okay to kill a child rather than own up to ...
responsibility. I see. Why not just force feed "the pill" from the time a girl reaches menarche. Better than killing the "mistakes" from "raging hormones" along the way. If you can't teach responsibility, and don't intend to make them responsible...put them on the pill.
The child is due today.
They'll probably be crossing each other's paths in the hospital corridors shortly.
Here's the deal, Ms. New Englander. JTBB has summed up the reason I posted in the first place. You can't have it both ways. If you insist on making something out of nothing with Obama and his so-called "affiliations," then you should have no problem when others try to insinuate connections which may or may not be true between two expectant grandmothers.
You are such a child, interested only in
sake. Do you know what leftie means?
OMG...now you get your news from a child!
Please spare us anymore newsflashes that come from children. We have enough problems with credible news sources on this forum without having schoolgirl rumors posted.
Child, listen up.
You have no idea who you are talking to, yet you seem to believe you know all about me. I have voted in 12 presidential elections in my lifetime, the first one being when Barack Obama was 8 years old. I've been active in politics for nearly 45 years, take my vote very seriously and keep myself well informed on all issues from both sides of the aisle.
Your simplistic dismissal of the jobs loss problems as being atrributable to the illegal immigrants only demonstrates how superficial your understanding is on the subject and speaks volumes about the sources for your information. You, my dear, are the follower, not me.
My support of Obama is based on the emergence of the right man at the right time for the job. I did not cast my vote this time around on my own behalf, like years past. This time, I did it for the sake of my son and the kind of world in which I want to see him live out his years and I can assure you, I do not envision that world being handed over to the divisionist viewpoints you have expressed where its okay to single out any given group on which to dump responsibility where it does not belong.
I would not want to put a child into this world, whose
father is a rapist, the child having - as you yourself stated - 1/2 of the father's genes!
No, thanks!
Last Katrina child goes home
Last Katrina child goes homeBy Tim Reid
A mother and her missing daughter are reunited seven months after a hurricane devastated New Orleans |
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THE last of more than 5,000 children missing after Hurricane Katrina has finally been reunited with her mother, ending the largest child-recovery effort in US history.
After seven months of searching by her mother, amid fears that her daughter had died in the flooding in New Orleans that followed the hurricane in August, four-year-old Cortez Stewart was reunited with her family in Texas.
Cortez was the last of the 5,192 Gulf Coast children listed as missing or displaced after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita struck the region. Of those, all but 12 have been found alive and all of those are now back with their parents.
For Lisa Stewart the happy ending came when she was contacted by the National Centre for Missing & Exploited Children that said it had found her daughter. “I was overwhelmed, happy, joyous,” she said.
During their separation her daughter’s fourth birthday had passed last November with no sign that she was dead or alive. “It was devastating,” Mrs Stewart said.
When the storm struck, Cortez was with her godmother, Felicia Williams. After seeking refuge in a hotel, Cortez and Ms Williams were winched to safety by helicopter and flown to Atlanta, Georgia.
Mrs Stewart and her five other children were rescued from their home in New Orleans as the floodwater rose.
They were taken to the nearest piece of dry land, an interstate overpass, where they stayed for four days, before being evacuated and placed in a flat in Houston, Texas. For months Ms Williams and Mrs Stewart tried to make contact, not knowing if the other was alive, but without success. Their efforts were hampered by incorrect name spellings and other misleading information given to government officials.
“Many agencies didn’t have a good account of who they were helping,” Bob O’Brien, director of the centre’s missing children division, said. “More than 411,000 were evacuated to more than 40 states, and it became very hard to track the movement.”
The centre traced information about Ms Williams through her former employer and then located relations in Georgia. When Cortez was reunited with her mother and five siblings last week in Houston, Mrs Stewart almost fell upon her, screaming: “The baby! It’s the baby!”
More than 12,000 adults were reported missing after Katrina. About 1,900 are still missing. More than 1,300 others have been confirmed dead. |
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Coulter's the poster child for the right.
They obviously emulate her and try to be like her, obviously not realizing or caring how terrible it makes them look. You can see from these boards that people like her do have a constituency, unfortunately.
I Ms. Schulte gave a very classy and dignified response.
No, Republicans would rather the child live.
instead of being aborted and thrown in the trash, like it was nothing.
They have hearts....they just don't view the child...
as a child. That is how they rationalize it. Because your average person's basic moral values tell them killing a child is wrong. Therefore they deny it is a child. Or they rationalize by saying "I would not have one, but it is not my business if someone else does." Well, yes it is. If we all had that attitude, none of the wrongs in the world would ever be righted.
They should go and view the video link posted below. Anyone who could view THAT and still say it is not a child that is destroyed indeed has a hardened heart. It broke my heart. I have seen abortion video before, but I have never seen anything like that. Like the preface said...you have the guts to view that, you are no longer igorant of what is really happening. Now you have knowledge of the choice you are making or the procedure you are enabling. It is absolutely horrific. And most who are pro choice will NOT watch it because they want to remain in comfortable denial. No one likes to feel guilty. We are designed that way. :)
First of all, all anyone has to go on about the biracial child thing...
was Dem supporters who said that the Bush campaign called them and said those things. First of all, and I don't like the man, Karl Rove is way too smart to have people call and identify themselves as being from the Bush campaign if he was trying to leak something like that. Second, I don't believe for a minute that if it were true and John McCain knew it he wouldn't have clocked Karl Rove. John McCain dislikes Karl Rove as much as I do. They have verbally jousted on many occasions.
And anybody who bothered to check would know the child was adopted from Bangladesh. That was a long time ago, has been debunked, and even if it were true (and I do not believe it is), it is not the same thing as saying on TV that you admired a man and that you would be proud to be on a ticket with him, and then within weeks turn right around and throw him under the bus in such a mean-spirited attack. I thought Joe Biden was better than that, and apparently I also was WRONG.
Yes, this is an innocent child. What if it ISN'T true?
What does this do to that 16-year-old? What about that?
Ignorant or not...many did suggest that the child was hers...
and the reason I say that is that she chose to have the child. The child's father is in their lives; they plan to marry. I believe she is brave to be willing to take this public and still stand beside her mother, and I believe she will hold her head high. She has a wonderful support system and while I am sure it will not be easy, it will be easier than having that other nonsense hanging over her head. I feel sure this was discussed prior to her mother accepting the slot, because, as you say, it was going to come out eventually.
Thanks for your post...you are the poster child...
for liberal mindset. Practicing the ALinsky method of your party and your candidate...if you can't refute, attack.
Yes, I am an MT. Is THIS post supposed to make anyone believe you are an MT or belong in an MT forum? Surely this is not indicative of MTs et al??
Funny how presenting a different view is characterized as "bullying" when you are the poster child for personal attacks.
The last line of your post tells me more about your character than you think you know about mine.
Have a good day! :)
That's right. I'm child-free by choice, and also -
spouse-free at the present time, but if I find someone to marry, I wouldn't want to be told 'no' because that union wasn't for the purpose of propagation. ESPECIALLY in this day and age, when the Earth already has a couple billion too many of our species on it, already.
Having children shouldn't be mandated by anyone. It should be by one's own, personal choice.
Yes, they do need an egg. And a woman to bear the child.
talking about 2 men who want a child. The surrogate only has to be a woman with a uterus. Her sexual orientation, and even her marital status, do not matter. That does not constitute a 'sexual relationship', though. She is artificially inseminated. And of course there is also adoption.
Equating child molesters and
democrats seeking a change in their country is faulty logic.
Ask any child. I robinhood a good guy or a bad guy?
Children like hero stories. That's why we read them this one. They get the idea.
Hate to say it, but you are acting like a child.
You're one of the ones that won't look at issues. You love the O and no one can say anything different. You are allowed to bash McCain and Palin, but never your messiah.
Well, you better wake up and smell the coffee. Maybe you should do some research. There were plenty of Proven Facts about O posted here. Did you read them? Nope. You call them lies. Well, we shall see.
Stop worshiping him. He's only a man.!!!!!
So what if you're already married with a child?
Are they just going to uproot you from your life? My best friend is 22 and her husband is 25 (like me and my husband) but she already has a 1 year old. I don't (yet) but we are planning to soon after we get our finances straight.
I think I'm going to go back to my homeland where we love and not fight :) (Call us sissies and we'll kick your derriere!)
But can parent sacrifice their child to the military?
that was the question...
and No most of the country doesn't agree with the self-proclaimed martyr, Sheehan.
Child molestation doesn't have a partyline...sm
so on that we agree. I think during the Lunsford investigation, conservatives were more focused on Shiavo than the Lunsford case and the Shiavo case was not and should not have been a major issue from a liberal, at least this one's point of view, but that is besides the point.
I think castration AND 25 years in prison would be good, but then castrating them may just turn them into violent offenders.
I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, but in the case of heinous crimes against children and elderly and serial killers, if we are 100% sure they're guilty then let'em fry.
Child Rapist Gets 60 Day Jail Term
Please contact the governor of Vermont to let him know that his is WRONG. See link below for his contact information.
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January 7, 2006
By: So Cal Lawyer at 3:04 pm
Wcax reports:
Vermont Judge Edward Cashman is coming under fire for handing out a light sentence to a child rapist.The judge says did it because he no longer believes in punishment and he wants to speed the rapist’s entry into a rehabilitation program.
Judge Cashman’s short sentence for an admitted child molester triggered immediate public and political reaction with some lawmakers saying he should leave the bench.
Judge Edward Cashman’s light sentence was the talk of the town. Wednesday he sentenced child rapist Mark Hulett to 60 days in jail. Hulett admitted he raped a little girl countless times when she was between 7 and 10 years old.
As a reminder, in California you can access the online Megan’s Law database of sex offenders here and find out what sex offenders have registered in your neighborhood.
Oprah on child molestation laws...sm
I found this article on Oprah's website and thought this excerpt was powerful on the anti-child abuse/molestation movement. The underlined areas are links, please help out with this as you can.
*This is a full circle moment for me. For me to have been raped at 9 years old … this is so big and so gratifying that I now get to put people behind bars who did to me what they've been doing to other children. This is it. And so I am going to spend my own resources, and I am going to work with law enforcement, and I'm going to change, with your help, the laws in this country state by state by state by state.
We are not going to be a country that talks the talk about how we care about children, and then we let these people back out on the street. It's Joseph Duncan all over again. We have got to let Shasta Groene and all the others be the last children. Let their lives not have been in vain. Let's stand up, and change the laws.
Take a look at these accused child molester profiles, and see if you can be the next person to put a fugitive behind bars.*
Do you think all mothers would choose their life over their child's?
A serious question.
well dubya speaks like a child and he scares the
is what counts and clearly Dubya is lacking in that department and Obama is not.
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