The LADY has class.
Posted By: CG on 2008-08-28
In Reply to: I will someone would tell Michele Obama - to get a new wardrobe. Looks like she buys her
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helping the lower class and middle class will NOT
Giving handouts to those that do not work certainly does nothing to help their situations; it only encourages it. Middle class are your working class, the support and backbone of this country. Obama's interference in their lives is just that, interference. The democrats have always felt they have the right to interfere in our lives by taxing us to death. What does that do to help us? It only makes us MORE dependent on the government......nothing about MORE government is helping us in any way.
I'm glad you think crime is JUST a biproduct of poverty, not race, which proves you obviously don't live in an area where that would prove you wrong. I live in an area where I know that every BLACK has the same opportunities as whites, the EXACT same education and FREE two college years....FREE, FREE, FREE.....all they have to do is finish high school....not all As or even any Bs, just finish high school. Now, a lot of young people take advantage of that but MANY do not. What do they do instead? Stand on the street corner, run around with their pants hanging down to the knees, steal for drugs, sell drugs to make money so they can buy expensive hubcaps for their souped up cars, buy their expensive shoes and ugly pants, and make MORE BABIES, which by the way, I SUPPORT with my taxes. No, I don't want to hear all that hogwash about their poverty. The media has made so much of that garbage, those that don't live in or near it, don't realize many blacks have the same opportunities; it's just that a lot of blacks, especially in my town, have grown up generation after generation living off the taxpayer and see no reason whatsoever to change their situation. They make more babies.....I'm forced to raise them so that generation can make more babies. Do I wish their situation would change? ABSOLUTELY! Do they have plenty of resources available in this town alone to change that? ABSOLUTELY! Do most of them take advantage of that? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Yes, the majority of crimes in our town is committed by blacks but it AIN'T because of poverty; it's because THEY WANT TO COMMIT A CRIME!! We have poor whites as well and the majority of those do not feel they have the right to steal what belongs to others, kill someone over drugs or a stupid girl, or whatever else one wants to use as an excuse.
Obama will do nothing to help those that feel entitled and look to Obama as just a bigger free paycheck. You don't help anyone by giving them free handouts. If they don't want an educate, won't help themselves, and continue to feel ENTITLED to MY money, Obama certainly won't change that by encouraging laziness and lack of worth ethics.
Making the middle class dependent on the government is in no way helping them; if anything, Obama will be the end to the middle class as we know it today.
lady, get OVER the
obsession with EVIL and read some policy papers or something.
not all all - first lady is not an
elected position. They basically serve as glorified housewife. Clinton's experience comes from actual work experience with Nixon impeachment, Children's Defense Fund, and on and on and on.
Are you serious, lady?
It's okay because THE TASER WAS TURNED DOWN TO THE TETING SETTING? Shame on you! I hope you don't have any children. If you do, I hope somebody gets them into protective custody and soon!
OT but this lady is hysterical. sm
I found like 9 clips of her and my stomach hurts from laughing so hard.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2006/fruitcake-lady-p1.php
The Church Lady
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wj4tJICcc
I saw her. The lady has guts too!
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thought it was first lady's
job to swap baby photos and serve tea to foreign dignitaries - not VP's.
Maybe they should investigate this lady
http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=3269&title=Glenn_Beck__We_the_People_vs__Barney_Frank
Not concerned about lady-like
concerned about being able to eat through the winter :)
If I was Prez or first lady...sm
The way I look at it, the Obamas will have more help taking care of the dog (they can be a lot of work!) and also, IMHO, the girls are old enough now to have one and learn responsibility.
Off topic, but if I were in White House, I would follow in Calvin Coolidge's footsteps: He had 6 dogs, a bobcat, a goose, a donkey, a cat, 2 lion cubs, an antelope, a wallaby and a pygmy hippopotamus.
Dream on, lady.
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I used to work with a lady like that. Could never let others be
had to rain on everyone's parade. If someone had just bought a home of their own that they were so proud of, she'd point out that it was in a questionable neighborhood. If you brought in pics of your new grandchild, she'd tell you his ears were asymmetrical. Finally got 'MT-of-the-Month' because you typed the most lines? She'd say it was because you all all the easy dictators that month. Finally buy a new car? She'd insist that it rated lowest on the crash-tests. Just got a facelift, and finally back at work looking 20 years younger? She'd insist she could see the scars.
Pretty sad, huh? Those kinds of people have so little going for them in their lives, that they have to torpedo the happiness of all those around them. And unfortunately, this profession seems to draw that type like flies to road-kill.
Well, no killjoy rightwing biddy is going to spoil this day, and our exciting, YOUNG! new administration for me.
Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning with a better job? No. More money? Nope. But what I AM going to wake up to tomorrow is a President that I can finally be PROUD of again. And it's been far too long in coming.
I used to work with a lady like that. Could never let others be
had to rain on everyone's parade. If someone had just bought a home of their own that they were so proud of, she'd point out that it was in a questionable neighborhood. If you brought in pics of your new grandchild, she'd tell you his ears were asymmetrical. Finally got 'MT-of-the-Month' because you typed the most lines? She'd say it was because you all all the easy dictators that month. Finally buy a new car? She'd insist that it rated lowest on the crash-tests. Just got a facelift, and finally back at work looking 20 years younger? She'd insist she could see the scars.
Pretty sad, huh? Those kinds of people have so little going for them in their lives, that they have to torpedo the happiness of all those around them. And unfortunately, this profession seems to draw that type like flies to road-kill.
Well, no killjoy rightwing biddy is going to spoil this day, and our exciting, YOUNG! new administration for me.
Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning with a better job? No. More money? Nope. But what I AM going to wake up to tomorrow is a President that I can finally be PROUD of again. And it's been far too long in coming.
Fat lady starts her song!
You know it has to be pretty darned bad when virtually all you see on the left-wing blogs is searing criticism of Democratic congresscritters. And I have to say, I absolutely agree with them. I'm still partial to progressive values but let's face it, elected Democrats are worthless, and have been since 2000, if not long before.
I have to wonder if that's been part of the plan all along, and if there are not much larger forces than the RNC focused on literally destroying America, her political system, her people and her former glory. With Alito's confirmation it's a done deal. The right can yuk it up all it wants and assume a smugness off the scale - but they don't appear to be aware that it's their nation too that is being dismantled. What is their powerful, pushy, money-grubbing and quasi-criminal majority party without a strong minority to watchdog it?
There's only one answer, and it is bad news 99% of the American people.
So let the fat lady sing over America's flag-draped coffin. Enjoy the song, enjoy the carnage, pop the champagne corks - it's all one big party now.
The Dragon Lady, so I hear sm.
The GOP claims McCain is getting 70% of the Republican vote. That is beyond scary (a nation of sheep). I will wait and see who Dr. Paul endorses, and go with the 30% remaining true conservatives to form our own party. Maybe with a joint effort between independents, greens, constitution and libertarian parties we can get rid of this 2 party monopoly and these neocon cretins.
As the SNL church-lady would say, "Well now...
Not.
dont believe the gray lady -
NYT. CULT alert. Only accept information from Faux news as true.
What a gorgeous folksy lady
I believe this lady is a cutthroat politician. I bet she is aiming for the presidency at some point in her political career.
Please people, vote with your wallet in mind. People with no money have a small voice.
Just saw a lady on tv admitting to be with ACORN
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Give the lady her prize, She got the-----
Congratulations! One box of brand new light bulbs will be coming your way.
Do looks really mean this much to you, I remember a grand lady, not much to look at but OMG
The woman was Eleanor Roosevelt. To say she was nothing to look at was an understatement. Very homely looking but what she accomplished which made me think of her when others are talking about looks. Do looks matter- what about a person's soul and heart- does that not count for anything now?
My stepmom worked in Washington during WWII. She saw Eleanor Roosevelt several times. She told me about how Mrs. Roosevelt would board a pubic bus and say hello to the people sitting there, not pretentious at all. I remember her later when she was working at the United Nations as a delegate. She became one of the greatest women of the 20th Century. She was an humanitarian and civic leader (among other roles). She worked for the welfare of youth, black Americans, the poor, and women, at home and abroad. She persuaded her husband to create NYA which gave financial aid to students and young people. She worked closely with the NAACP. She visited the troops overseas during WWII. She was a leader in human right efforts. What she may have lacked in looks she certainly made up for it in her good deeds.
didn't like either first lady's outfit
However, I think the outfits looked nice on them, I just didn't like them. But it's rare that I like such formal "older" outfits.
but they briefly showed Cindy McCain and I liked hers.. she seems to fit her clothes pretty well.
Very beautiful, very classy lady. (nm)
The lady from Africa should go back there......
It doesn't say if the lady from Africa is a "legal" citizen or just here on a Visa but either way, the hospital administrators should be ashamed of themselves for letting this one person dictate NO patriotism toward ones own country!!!
That lady have every right showing a flag in her office; the American flag is a symbol of this country, its freedoms, all it stands for. The lady from Africa obviously needs to go back to Africa and stay there. She has no patriotism to this country, just here to work like so many others, without an ounce of care for this country at all, except to make a buck.
We have a serious problem in this country when anyone asks anyone else to take down an American flag!!!
small message, church lady...
The most significant thing to me in the entire video is "Vote your conscience." That speaks volumes.
He also had time to meet with Lady de Rothschild...sm
Oh yes. He urgently had to get to Washington to work on the financial crisis! Riiiiightt! -
>> You remember her, the lady who called blue collar voters "rednecks." McCain thought meeting a beautiful filthy rich member of royalty was more important than focusing on the economy today. Yet he now suddenly wants to cancel everything to focus on the economy. >>
You mean supporters like that lady with the B self inflicted on her head? LOL!!!!!
pathetic!
We have a president, a first lady, a first family and a first puppy.
Evidently one he would have us all uphold. If I were one of his daughters, I would never forgive him if he didn't allow me to share that one moment in time. More to the point, I believe he will be doing his best in the next 4 years to diffuse the fear you are now expressing.
She is a nice eloquent lady....until she starts...
with the "rabid Republicans" type comments. Not necessary to take potshots to impart information. Fact is, I like GP. We are from the same part of the country and have a lot in common, believe it or not.
As to Obama...look. I had concerns about him during the campaign. Those did not just disappear *poof* when he won the election. I still have concerns. I don't trust him. His first choice for his administration did not make any strides toward trust, in fact, made me even more concerned. I asked if the real Barack Obama would step up, and he has. Maybe the next choices will be better. Time will tell.
the black lady didnt call anyone a name!
what are u talking about? and what does Harlem dumbells mean? Is this person referring to a dumb black person? That is how it is sounding to me. If that is not what the comment means, why doesnt the poster clarify this?
Well, she is a pretty bitter lady.........she ain't happy
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Is that coming from personal experience? Perhaps you should actually LISTEN to the lady.....
Don't personally know JTBB, but after reading her posts and references fully the past couple of months, she has much balanced wisdom and irony, along with that intelligence. Personal digs are okay for the Pubs?
The attack on this lady is an obvious political issue....
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Religion doesn't belong in politics, Church-lady.
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German Lady Sees Obama and Recalls Hitler...
http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/german-lady-sees-obama-and-recalls-hitlers-call-of-change/
I took a class
I took the NRA class, but I haven't gotten up the nerve to buy the gun.
Still low class
But would expect nothing less.
Welcome to the Class War,
Companies that take advantage of the provisions of the tax laws are not "tax cheats", by the way. A very prominent Supreme Court justice once said that no one is obliged to pay one penny more in taxes than the law requires.
Sorry, he has no class
Sorry, he has no class and neither does she. They are a couple of scam artists. They got where they got by scamming people into believing something that is not true. And race had a big play in it. People felt threatened...remember the panthers standing in front of the voting areas with clubs, and remember when people said they didn't like his policy about this, or his plan about that and they were shouted back with "your a racist". Then there was the oh so lovely (NOT) Garafool gal that when people were trying to stand up at the tea parties because we were tired of being taxed to death she called them all racists. There was just so much wrong with what has happened. However, back to the point - he has no class. He's a smooth talker and struts across the stage. Sure he may move gracefully and has a pleasant speaking voice, but I don't equate that with having class.
I know about his history, how he was raised, where he has been, his associations, how he got as far as he has today, and what he plans to do to our country. It's all been one huge scam and we the people have been duped.
Compared to the last president...sure he has class, but taken on an individual basis he has no class, and if I see that evil creepy grin he has one more time I feel like I will just throw up.
You have so much class, reveille...
really, so much class. You could not debate an issue if your life depended upon it. Let us hope that it never does.
Pure Class.
Adults acting like children once again. Proves my point every time.
Middle class
Didn't McCain define "middle class" as anyone with $5 million??? How realistic is that? I don't personally have, nor do I know anyone, who has $5 million. The "real" middle class is screwed with either of these clowns.
I agree...what a guy. A class act. nm
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Nice. Another dem with no class.
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If the new middle class is $120,000 (sm)
Then my income will just push us into that bracket. I wonder if that will negate my entire income? If so, I guess we may be better off if I just quit? Right now I work because I can't afford to quit. I won't be able to afford it then either so what will I do? I wonder how many others will be in my situation?
FYI, we live in a small older home that we are trying to pay off so that when our two children are college-age, maybe we can afford it. We don't live extravagently by any means. What will happen to people like us?
Middle class? sm
If Obama is elected, that is something that our children's children will be reading about in a history book. It is fast disappearing and will be completely gone if Obama takes office.
Class attitudes
We are all in this together, there is no your side and my side. If you truly have the American spirit you will rise about your petty class attitude.
Well, you can't say Dems don't have class...
oh wait, yes I can. LOL.
Class certainly shows.
The UK presents diplomatic gifts of great antiquity, value and meaning and in return we hand them, what? Plastic model planes? Talk about a low-rent reception! Yeah, I guess we really are illustrating that we don't care enough to give the very best.
A New Way To Tax the Middle Class
Just call it something besides a tax.
Who Pays for Cap and Trade?
Hint: They were promised a tax cut during the Obama campaign.Article
Cap and trade is the tax that dare not speak its name, and Democrats are hoping in particular that no one notices who would pay for their climate ambitions. With President Obama depending on vast new carbon revenues in his budget and Congress promising a bill by May, perhaps Americans would like to know the deeply unequal ways that climate costs would be distributed across regions and income groups.
Politicians love cap and trade because they can claim to be taxing "polluters," not workers. Hardly. Once the government creates a scarce new commodity -- in this case the right to emit carbon -- and then mandates that businesses buy it, the costs would inevitably be passed on to all consumers in the form of higher prices. Stating the obvious, Peter Orszag -- now Mr. Obama's budget director -- told Congress last year that "Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program."
Hit hardest would be the "95% of working families" Mr. Obama keeps mentioning, usually omitting that his no-new-taxes pledge comes with the caveat "unless you use energy." Putting a price on carbon is regressive by definition because poor and middle-income households spend more of their paychecks on things like gas to drive to work, groceries or home heating.
The Congressional Budget Office -- Mr. Orszag's former roost -- estimates that the price hikes from a 15% cut in emissions would cost the average household in the bottom-income quintile about 3.3% of its after-tax income every year. That's about $680, not including the costs of reduced employment and output. The three middle quintiles would see their paychecks cut between $880 and $1,500, or 2.9% to 2.7% of income. The rich would pay 1.7%. Cap and trade is the ideal policy for every Beltway analyst who thinks the tax code is too progressive (all five of them).
But the greatest inequities are geographic and would be imposed on the parts of the U.S. that rely most on manufacturing or fossil fuels -- particularly coal, which generates most power in the Midwest, Southern and Plains states. It's no coincidence that the liberals most invested in cap and trade -- Barbara Boxer, Henry Waxman, Ed Markey -- come from California or the Northeast.
Coal provides more than half of U.S. electricity, and 25 states get more than 50% of their electricity from conventional coal-fired generation. In Ohio, it totals 86%, according to the Energy Information Administration. Ratepayers in Indiana (94%), Missouri (85%), New Mexico (80%), Pennsylvania (56%), West Virginia (98%) and Wyoming (95%) are going to get soaked.
Another way to think about it is in terms of per capita greenhouse-gas emissions. California is the No. 2 carbon emitter in the country but also has a large economy and population. So the average Californian only had a carbon footprint of about 12 tons of CO2-equivalent in 2005, according to the World Resource Institute's Climate Analysis Indicators, which integrates all government data. The situation is very different in Wyoming and North Dakota -- paging Senators Mike Enzi and Kent Conrad -- where every person was responsible for 154 and 95 tons, respectively. See the nearby chart for cap and trade's biggest state winners and losers.
Democrats say they'll allow some of this ocean of new cap-and-trade revenue to trickle back down to the public. In his budget, Mr. Obama wants to recycle $525 billion through the "making work pay" tax credit that goes to many people who don't pay income taxes. But $400 for individuals and $800 for families still doesn't offset carbon's income raid, especially in states with higher carbon use.
All the more so because the Administration is lowballing its cap-and-trade tax estimates. Its stated goal is to reduce emissions 14% below 2005 levels by 2020, which assuming that four-fifths of emissions are covered (excluding agriculture, for instance), works out to about $13 or $14 per ton of CO2. When CBO scored a similar bill last year, it expected prices to start at $23 and rise to $44 by 2018. CBO also projected the total value of the allowances at $902 billion over the first decade, which is some $256 billion more than the Administration's estimate.
We asked the White House budget office for the assumptions behind its revenue estimates, but a spokesman said the Administration doesn't have a formal proposal and will work with Congress and "stakeholders" to shape one. We were also pointed to recent comments by Mr. Orszag that he was "sure there will be enough there to finance the things that we have identified" and maybe "additional money" too. In other words, Mr. Obama expects a much larger tax increase than even he is willing to admit.
Those "stakeholders" are going to need some very large bribes, starting with the regions that stand to lose the most. Led by Michigan's Debbie Stabenow, 15 Senate Democrats have already formed a "gang" demanding that "consumers and workers in all regions of the U.S. are protected from undue hardship." In practice, this would mean corporate welfare for carbon-heavy businesses.
And of course Congress is its own "stakeholder." An economy-wide tax under the cover of saving the environment is the best political moneymaker since the income tax. Obama officials are already telling the press, sotto voce, that climate revenues might fund universal health care and other new social spending. No doubt they would, and when they did Mr. Obama's cap-and-trade rebates would become even smaller.
Cap and trade, in other words, is a scheme to redistribute income and wealth -- but in a very curious way. It takes from the working class and gives to the affluent; takes from Miami, Ohio, and gives to Miami, Florida; and takes from an industrial America that is already struggling and gives to rich Silicon Valley and Wall Street "green tech" investors who know how to leverage the political class.
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