That's when she started referring to backup copy

• I want SP to be interviewed - Roque
  • FYI, the prompter went out during her speech - sm
    • In all sincerity, how do you know - for what it's worth
    • That's when she started referring to backup copy - of the canned speech in front of her. sm

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Here is the link to the latest NIE report if anyone cares to read it:

http://www.odni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf

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Not the original one.  That is why some people are questioning its authenticity.  I personally don't feel that this will be an issue since Obama's mom was an American citizen.  I think the thing that sticks out in some people's mind is that on his school records he was listed as a citizen to Indonesia....as well as his religion was listed as muslim.  Those are things that may not sit well with others.  Obviously people for Obama find it as no big deal but others do think it is worth looking at more carefully.

Like I've said before, if any other politician had the background and connections that Obama has had and still has......they wouldn't even be considered for president.  Their political career would be in the gutter.

If you really want to get technical about this, McCain wasn't born in the United States.  LOL.  He was born at a US military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone where his father was serving in the navy.  However, his parents were BOTH American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth.

into your browser and click "go," the page will come up with the entire article.  If you scroll down a bit, you will see the video screen which will work if you click on it.

I just tried it, and it works fine.  I will try again to post the link below under "URL/Link." 

I personally believe that your husband and all other soldiers who are placed in harm's way deserve so much better, whether it's safe food/water, safe electricity, better vehicles to protect them against IEDs, etc.  They are doing their best for us, and they deserve the best FROM us, IMHO.

Anyway, I'm beginning to be sorry I mentioned this.  The whole point was that a poster said TWICE that it was easy enough for her to check ISPs to find out who was using multiple monikers in order to find out what was posting as whom, etc.  I was just questioning that comment, that's all.

As far as the hacking on the protestwarrior.com website, that is a separate issue from what I was referring to.  Someone revealed some folks' personal information on the forum.  I wasn't blaming the owners of the website for that.....

Time for me to give this a rest.

Bush's invasion of Iraq to *spread freedom* (#2 reason after the failed WMD excuse).  I'd consider it kind of a *gander invasion* (as in what's good for...).  Could you imagine an America where, regardless of wealth, everyone received medical care, nobody starved, everyone had adequate housing?  An America that didn't throw its poor to the wolves (or the *waves* of a hurricane, as pointed out below in the areas that Bush included in his Louisiana plan)?  An American government that allowed personal freedoms, didn't force one set of religious beliefs down your throat via politics, didn't try to control your personal life/death issues, didn't condemn you to unequal rights and eternal damnation because you love the *wrong* person?

I wouldn't object to living in that kind of America. 

money/evil as it regards George W. Bush, et al.

The UAE has a very unstable history of *loyalty* to the United States, and I believe allowing this deal to go through is very risky business and completely contrary to the man who said *If you're not with us, you're against us,*  who, to me, is now completely against us and in favor of big money.  The 9/11 Commission is totally against this deal.  But anything to defend Dubya, right?

Let me guess...you *accidentally* posted on the liberal board again, right? 

individuals exclusively. I said there are those who are able to see a problem from all sides. These are the people who will lead us to peace if we can ever achieve it. As far as liars et al, PULEEZE, take a look at our current Congress, take a look at many of our **ministries.**  Take a look at our leaders of industry. Take a look at our professional sports and news people and newspapers.

My point was that one can actually have a viewpoint that is diametrically opposed to yours and still love America, love democracy and disapprove of this administration AND say so out loud. I admire people who can put their personal feelings aside and see incendiary events objectively. I am not able to do that but there are those that can. My post was not a defense of anyone in particular.

the things I have gotten mostly on the C board but some here. I did not say you said any of those things. I just know they have been said to me. I am not championing anyone. I wanted to let Teddy know that she has a place here as does everyone (except if you denigrate W) and some pretty nasty things have been said on both sides. I did not want her to leave because she was, it appeared, standing alone yesterday. The more people are here the better it is.

I don't think that anyone probably deserves some of the rhetoric that appears here and I am amazed at the viciousness sometimes...both sides...but we are representative of a larger picture and that is a good thing.

My apologies, I was not referring to you in any way. I was telling Teddy that I knew how she must feel. It's tough to go it alone sometimes or be the only one on your side (or so it seems). I have been there where I am the only left voice and besides being difficult, it gets really confusing about answering what to who about what. That is all.

thread, so she is not responding to anybody's attacks in this case.  Second, I think it is very mean to attack someone's religious beliefs.  Third, GP indicated that George Bush said that God told him to be president.  If I remember correctly, George Bush said that God told him to RUN for president.  So he did.  SP did not say that God doing the right thing would put McCain in the White House, nor did she imply it.  She said that she has faith that God will do the right thing and that his will for the country will be done.  Imagine, two Christian practicing their faith and treating God as if he actually exists.

Guess what?  God told me to call my sister last weekend.  Am I delusional too?  Or is it only delusional to think God speaks and leads if you are national figure?  

I don't find one thing funny about it. I'm outraged about it because blaming anyone BUT the priests is giving a green flag for that behavior to continue.

And I totally agree with you that it's gone on too long, with the church's apparent blessing.  They know what these priests are doing, and they just transfer them to another parish so they can continue with a new set of children.

As far as the "headline" comment about my post, see what you mean about it coming up as a "headline" when you log onto this site.  I didn't realize it was going to come up that way.

Please rest assured that I'm outraged by all this.  Our children in this country are molested and killed every day in what seems to be an epidemic, and nobody is doing anything about it.

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