That's the trouble with liberals, they think the entire world is shades of gray.
Posted By: No yes/no, right/wrong nm on 2005-09-23
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This poster's hatred for your president has coloured their entire world view!
It's obvious there is no amount of reasoning or cajoling that will bring them 'round. I realised that immediately. But they are sad for me..I had a fine chuckle on that one.
dont believe the gray lady -
NYT. CULT alert. Only accept information from Faux news as true.
I think you better take off your shades until you see
what he does. You all are so sure he's going to make good on all his promises. I have my doubts. Always have. I certainly don't want to see another 3 Trillion added on to the debt this country has now.
I did not vote for him because I don't believe in dreams anymore. I believe in truth. It's a known fact the O has been changing his tune during the campaign depending on the city he was in and the groups of worshippers that he preached to.
Shades of ......Rush Limbaugh!
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Shades of BIzarro Jerry
You do realize, of course, the sheer, unmitigated hypocrisy and, dare I say it, wackiness, of what you just said, right?
Middle East- Country founded by Islam, ruled by Islamic principles of sharia as a church state for thousands of years. Views the US as infidels because they believe in a Christian god. Deemed by you as bad because they're not Christians. To justify your condemnation, you point out that they are anti-gay.
USA: Country a mere 300 years old (depending on whether you count when it was settled vs when it was countrified). Believes Islam is heathen because they doesn't believe in a Christian god. Founded on the principle of religious freedom/separation of church and state. Deemed superior by you because the One True God is behind the anti-gay movement?
So you're okay with the suppression of rights as long as we're doing it for Jesus and not Allah? Gosh, I hope the Christian burkhas come in better colors than the Islamic ones; contrary to popular belief, head-to-toe black is not slimming.
There is no way you can do an entire
report by the point and click method.
And we'd big in trouble if he did nothing.
That's where we are as a nation, between a rock and hard place. Suck it up!
Why do you think we'd be in big trouble
if he did nothing?
On the mortgage debacle, I say let the one's who took bit off more than they could chew, fail. They put themselves in this position.
Those that have been paying their mortgages all along and are now trying to keep their homes should be helped since the prices fell so far so fast.
Bigger is not alwasy better and some people need to learn that the hard way. Home prices went too high to fast. The bubble was bound to burst. Those that bought into those inflated prices that they couldn't afford should not have done it. Look at the couple in FL. They waited and saved to buy their dream home. They wound up buying a home that was foreclosed on for only $80K. The house had sold to someone for $235,000.
Why do people need bathrooms as large as a bedroom anyway? Whose idea was that? How long do you spend in a bathroom every day anyway? A tub as big as a swimming pool? a fire place? Terrazine(sp) tile? Subway tile? Granite counters? The cost is outrageous. We went to buy a separate shower for our extra bathroom 5 years ago. It cost $150. We went back a year later and it was up to $450. Needless to say, we still don't have a shower for our extra bathroom.
My list of people who started this housing crap are the developers, the companies who make the products that go into the homes, the real estate agents who put the price tag on the home after the developer gave their price, and the mortgage lenders/banks who pushed the bad loans.
Now I do believe she is in trouble.
She has now accused the CIA of lying to her. No one else, just her. Seriously?
Here's what I think will happen:
1. The investigation will continue and she will be proven a liar - the CIA will help out with this one, I'm sure, with documentation confirming that she knew early on everything that happened.
OR
2. The democrats will ask her to step aside, seeing her for the liability that she is, in order to put the whole nasty mess behind them and do what Obama has suggested and look forward.
Either way, if I had money, I'd bet that her political career is pretty much over. I must say, too, that it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
I know his campaign is in big trouble.
Seems to me he thought he found something and before confirming it, he started appearing on talk shows. At the most, he knowingly lied and wanted to tell his base what they wanted to hear.
At the least, he's reckless and sloppy in his approach to things.
I suppose the true test of his character will be if he comes clean and admits he was wrong.
Other than that, I find it increasingly difficult on a daily basis to understand why some of these politicians do what they do, both Republican and Democrat alike.
I think the entire country knows how old he is...
I think they use the picture of him in his uniform to underscore his military service...which I don't think hurts his cause but helps it, in this world we live in now.
As to his mind...that is kind of a cheap shot, don't you think? I haven't seen any evidence of an unsound mind. Obama is not "old" but take him away from a teleprompter or a planned statement and he stumbles and stutters with the best of them...just trying to be fair here.
Nobody said he was. You ignored the entire text
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This country is in such trouble.
I will not vote for someone who wants to create more government assisted programs. We are in deep crap now because of government spending. That will only make our economy worse. All of our money will be put into government programs, the spending will go up instead of down, and all the money we dish out in taxes to pay for all of this crap will most definitely not go towards our deficit. It will only get bigger than it is now and it is HUGE right now. There is no way that Obama can only go after rich people and tax them more. It still wouldn't be enough to pay for all these "plans" he has. God help us!
NOBAMA!!!
i had trouble staying with what JM was saying -
it was rambling & almost incoherent.
Media causes trouble
I think half the time it is the broadcasting of such statements that prompt people to react in such a way. It's almost like they feel it is expected, so they then act out.
Plus the whole group mentality is freaky. Look at what people do sometimes after big sports events (like college games) ... even the winners. Like a pack of dogs!
I think they have been in trouble for some time (sm)
but I think the credit freeze just topped it off. I think there should be a loan (not a bailout), but with oversight and possibly even a controlling interest for the government. Of course, there is no guarantee that they will change or that the government will do any better, but I don't think them filing bankrupcy is the answer. Too many jobs are at stake. One interesting thing though is that everyone was in a hurry to bail out the financial institutions to the tune of 700B, and yet the big 3 are under an emormous amount of scrutiny. Michael Moore said the other night that there seems to be a difference between how you're treated depending on whether you take a shower before you go to work or if you shower after you get home from work. So true.
Sigh. Trouble is, if they get what they ask for....
we all get it. Like I said...at least I can take comfort in the fact that I will have had nothing to do with the demise of freedom in this country as we know it. This whole thing with Joe really brought that home in a BIG way. Civil rights down the tubes.
That is their fault. They have been in trouble for
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We are in bigger trouble than we know
It may just be way too late for Obama to get us out of the horrible mess we are in. We are fiddling while Rome burns - I sound like Chicken Little but indeed the sky IS falling - Frightening!
...."If we can use the Baltic Dry Index (BDI) as a guide for the next 12 months of product delivery and food availability in the stores we shop in then the BDI says shelves will be virtually empty of almost every product we use each and every day. Is the BDI is wrong it will be an historic first. The BDI is used by bankers, financial experts, brokers, traders and everyone in high end finance to assess the global financial condition and the availability of products worldwide. The BDI has dropped 94% in a short few weeks which means raw materials, grains, ores, steel, iron, cement and all imported products for food manufacturing and product manufacturing even though we actually do very little of that here in the US."
No....Clinton got in trouble
for lying about his blowjob. It is called lying under oath and it is punishable by law.
Should have saved yourself the trouble.
Your message was so juvenile and old hat, I don't know why you even posted.
Thank you for once again proving how ignorant your leftist lunatics really are.
More trouble in Iran
Iran's increasingly isolated opposition leader effectively ended his role in street protests, saying he'll seek permits for future rallies. A leading cleric demanded in a nationally broadcast sermon Friday that leaders of the unrest be punished harshly and that some are "worthy of execution."
That is not even close to the entire transcription of what he said. nm
I believe O'Liely invented the entire
thing to help his pal John Gibson sell his book on this fictional topic.
After this *War on Christmas* was conjured up by these two, I believe that some people jumped on the *Happy Holidays* bandwagon simply because they're sick and tired of the religious right forcing their religion down everyone's throats for the past 5 years in the form of laws, supreme court nominees, FDA rulings, etc.
I think people of all religions are sick and tired of their religions being regarded as somehow *less* if they're not Christian (or even begin the *right kind* of Christian).
The other week, I made a contribution to a Salvation Army *pot* outside of a store I was visiting. The young man wished me a Merry Christmas, and I responded back with *Merry Christmas,* because I'm aware that the Salvation Army is a Christian organization. I would never dare to ASSUME that every stranger I encounter is Christian, and if I am the person initiating the *Happy* greeting, I use the phrase *Happy Holidays.* If I'm responding, I respond back with whatever they say to me first.
Yes, CHRISTMAS obviously is a Christian holiday first and foremost. But this holiday has also evolved into a secular one which includes Santa Claus and jingle bells, lights, tinsel and credit cards. It provokes people of ALL religions to act in a *Jesus-like* way: With kindness, charity, love and tolerance.
I believe that the Christmas *season* is so loved by ALL people that they are just unwilling to give it up to those who have proven to be so intolerant for the last 5 years. They want to feel included and validated, as well. It's ironic how some of the ones who claim to be the most *Christian* are unwilling to share their holiday with the rest of the country, and rather than being inclusive and welcoming of others under the umbrella of *Happy Holidays,* they instead choose, once again, to bully others. Must be the true meaning of the *bully pulpit.*
Merry Christmas to all Christians who celebrate Christmas.
Happy Holidays to others of all religions who just might enjoy the Jesus-LIKE feeling they get in their hearts during this time of the year. And as long as I initiate holiday wishes to strangers, I will be very respective, tolerant and inclusive of those who just might not be Christian, as I fondly remember the *good old days* when freedom of religion for ALL was not only *tolerated* but was unquestioned, welcomed and encouraged here in the United States of America. 
I agree the entire interview was not there.
And I truly don't understand why. I tried to quickly find the transcript of the entire interview, but I was unable to find it.
I wish they would have posted the entire interview because Sean and Newt argued and probably for the first time did not agree. If I remember correctly, there was even a jovial comment at the end about Newt being closer to Alan than Sean (or something to that effect). I don't remember the exact words. I did watch the entire interview, and I can tell you that Sean challenged Newt on points, but Newt still disagreed with him. The gist of what Newt said was that the President just needs to start being honest with the American people about things he does.
If I have more time later, I will search some more and see if I can find the entire interview in case you don't believe what I have told you after watching the entire interview.
I do agree, however, that the entire interview should have been there because I think his disagreement with Sean was much more interesting than his agreement with Alan.
Bettery try that again or I'll get in trouble with
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2006/09/saturday-cartoons.html
Conservative starting trouble
It is obvious this is a conservative trying to start trouble on the liberal board. Who cares what you think about Senator Clinton? Cast your vote and lets see how the country thinks..A level headed calm thinking democrat or a rash testosterone so out of touch with reality dangerous republican. Oprah had a show on universal health insurance a few weeks ago and a professor was on and stated that when the conservatives want to scare the people or distract from programs to benefit the people, they say it is socialism. Well, what I want to know is, what do you call the health insurance program the Congress has? That most definitely is government health insurance, so I guess socialism?. Well, if it is good enough for the Congress, it is good enough for the people. What do you call the govt programs that build bridges, roads, dams, run schools, etc., etc., etc..? Socialism? The govt must help the people of this country. We pay our taxes and we have a right to govt programs to better the lives of the people of America. I am so sick of conservatives and thankfully most of America is too.
That would certainly apply to the entire MTStars
(Thumbs up.)
Yes...this would be the liberal viewpoint of the entire...sm
Gov. Palin interview. Not surprising.
Charlie Gibson did perform his role for the left well, didn't he? Entrapment journalism at its best.
I feel the same way about Obama. The trouble is...
we will all be holding the bag, just like we are for the bad mortgages...with all the other problems I have with him, the idea that he and the Democrats could have avoided this for us had they listened to McCain in 2005-2006 trumps them all. And it is amazing to me how all of you just excuse that...like it never even happened.
There is absolutely nothing in the entire mess this
Their greed, and the greed of those who so stalwartly support every move they make, is the root of most of the problems we face today.
I have read his entire plan
And I think it is still a national health care plan. Slice away all the pretty words and what are you left with? Government control. Sorry, no thanks.
You seem to be having a little trouble staying on task.
Let's try this again. The subjct is guilt by association. The post you are answering listed Mc'Cain's associates as follows:
Just off the top of my head:
1. US Council for World Freedo. Can you say Iran contra? How about dong business with terrorists (the arms seller AND the arms customer)?
2. Phil Gramm, (co-chair of the McCain campaign), champion of Enron tax loopholes and author of Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that effectively neutralized any existing regulation of financial services industry. You remember good ole Phil. He's the one talking on McCain's behalf when he said we were having a "mental recession" and we have a nation of a bunch of whiners.
3. Gordon Liddy. That's the guy who got a 20-year sentence for his conviction of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping in the Watergate fiasco. m
4. Let's don't forget the Keating 5.
5. Richard Quinn, publisher of Southern Heritage ragazine for neo-confederates…unapologetic bigotry and proud of it!
6. Rick Davis, McCain CEO, lobbyist, paid $15,000 each month for "consulting" from end of 2005 until September 2008.
Let me spell out the issue at hand. If we are to infer that Obama embodies the phuilisophies of each and every single person or organization that he has ever encountered dring the corse of his lifetime, then we can infer the same about McCain. Are you with me so far? an appropriate, direct and credible response would not include the word democrat in it. It would deal with the issue at hand and with the list of pub snakes McCain pals around with.
McCain was having trouble speaking
McCain has had it. He lost it big time the minute he picked Palin. Oh sure the rallies got louder and the base was excited but people out there with common sense know what a mistake she is. She has a future in infomercials.
I don't agree with the entire thing....
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You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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Gourdainter. I am having trouble linking to
Though this is the one rare subject on which you and I disagree (for reasons I totally get), still I am always interested in your insight. I am wondering if you wouldn't mind posting it again.
LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.
Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?
Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??
OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?
If you base your perceptions of the entire
populace of our country from the postings on this forum, you need to get out more.
I'm sorry they said bad things about your candidate. It obviously hurt you deeply.
geez. I am NOT trying to start trouble...
I am seriously, honestly asking what this means. I didnt hear any audio and I dont live in Harlem and I am just curious what this means, if I am to take this how I THINK it sounds. I do realize that I could be taking it wrong and so I am trying to reserve judgment until I know what it means.
You posted this before. Trying to stir up trouble again? (nm)
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Ditto your entire 2 posts...
I agree wholeheartedly. This should not be a race issue, but unfortunately that's all it has become and thats too bad. I'd like to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that he may be able to do a decent job, but I'm afraid these next 4 years are gonna be just one race issue after another, not very productive for our country. Like the posters below, where's my check?
Yeah, I'm having trouble dealing
with the no-First-Dog thing too. Maybe that was an attempt to humanize himself, since many people are said to like dogs and dog owners? Then after the election he no longer needed to appear warm and fuzzy?
I don't know, if you figure it out, let me know. Just so terribly disappointed, I was really counting on that pooch.
Wrong! If you had seen the entire video, you ....sm
would have seen that Queen Elizabeth had first put her arm around Michelle Obama. You all are a bunch of crazy people. Obama is doing a terrific job, just what we elected him to do. I feel sorry for you.
Yeah - not at all like the NY Times, which has had entire
When you get up tomorrow morning, look in the mirror and say "Today, I will try NOT to be a dope".
They're not happy unless they are starting trouble.
They don't want to debate. All they want to do is attack and chase away people who don't agree with them. They don't want liberals on their board, but they refuse to practice what they preach.
This is the reason the administrator created a conservative and liberal board. They have their own board, but that's not enough for them. It's typical of how they must control everyone's thoughts and deeds and even which God they worship.
A definite intrusion by a CON who only comes here to start trouble
You ought to read the venom you spew
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Posted By: ll on 2006-03-10,
In Reply to: It's better off dead than dead AND rude and OBNOXIOUS. - PK
you all are supposed to be loving and tolerant people however, you never are loving and tolerant on this board. People try to discuss things with you, and you all go postal and start shooting them. You all are a sad, sad bunch of people. I feel real sorry for the people you come in contact with in real life. Of course you are probably nicer in real life...at least I hope so. You just bomb people here to get some kind of sick little pleasure.
Mean people like you all are the reason these boards have to be separate. Mean people suck.
I read that entire article and I still didn't see where it said sm
U.S. military was protecting the Hezbollah supporters. Am I really missing it?
So, I have trouble understanding abstract ideas AND
I have no sense of humor. Anybody else?
We need to vote as if our entire future depends on it,
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Why do pubs have so much trouble staying on task?
I like facts. Troopergate has lots of them. Try reading it. Then try answering the questions. Challenge yourself. Get though one single entire post, begining to end, without trashing Obama. Can you handle that? Probably not, but give it your best shot. By the way, there is only one person here who you need to educate....and it ain't me, babe.
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