That's the most sensible thing I've read on this board
Posted By: wannie on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: I am not in favor of a federal sales tax.... - sam
in a looooong time. Why should somebody who works hard (or inherits) for their money have to pay more taxes than someone who makes (or inherits) less money. Everybody paying the same - that is equality. 
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Thank you - the wisest thing I've read yet today
I keep posting there are bad and good on both sides. Neither side is perfect. There are a lot of democrats I agree with and I think they are right on (Kucinich, Richardson, and others in the senate). Actually there are more democrats I agree with than I would rather admit to. HA HA, but there are some I absolutely do not agree with (Pelosi, Reid, Clinton and others). On the other side there are some republicans I agree with (Ron Paul and others, can't think of any others right now just cos I'm so tired) and those that I think really stink (Bush at the top of them), but unless we get on this board praising Obama and every single democrat and cut down and destroy every republican, we will get bashed over and over. I have said many times there are good and bad on both sides and if people are going to follow the group think and not think for themselves, well that's when they lose a part of their sense. My mom is a great one. I don't know how many arguments I will have with her. She hates Bush so much with such a vengence she has come right out and said what she want to happen. "He's a liar, he's this, I don't have any money because of Bush, etc, etc. But the minute I say to her If you want to talk about liars lets hit on Clinton, or lets talk about what Obama said. Ohhhh no, can't do that. I was also told by her "If you know what is good for you, you'll stop saying those bad things about him". I asked her what exactly does that mean and she said I just better watch it. Then I said to her, well how can you say what you say about Bush but I tell you I disagree about something Obama said and your ready to report me to the authorities. Funny how someone mysteriously happened to be knocking on her door at that moment and she had to leave (btw, I didn't hear anything in the background and her phone is in the halway near her front door). So unless people will admit when they are wrong there will always be arguments.
Now THAT's the smartest thing I've read in a long time! nm
East Ohio Gas has been using natural gas to fuel their utility trucks for years - why hasn't that caught on? Makes ya wonder..............
But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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From what I've seen on this board...
Dems prefer to stay in the dark on most issues...at least those regarding their candidate.
He doesn't even know those terrorists all that well.
He didn't really give all that money to ACORN.
He didn't really listen in church when they were indoctrinating him into their white-hate dogman for 20 years.
He doesn't really believe all that stuff he learned as a child in a Muslim school. I mean, it's not like children are impressionable or anything.
His associates aren't all terrorists. I mean, some of them are political cronies and some are only militant hate mongers.
He does really need that tele....uh...uhm....now....look....uh....prompter.
Hey, Iran is a tiny country anyway. It's really not that big a threat to any of us.
Hey, I've been accused of a lot on this board
But getting mistaken for Observer really hurts my feelings. 
No, I wasn't being all that serious. I just don't see how people can preach about an unborn baby's life being the "will of God", but the life of somebody on a battlefield is not the "will of God", the life of all animals euthanized daily in pet shelters is not the "will of God", the life of the chicken in that sandwich you ate for lunch is not the "will of God".
Either all life is sacred (bugs and trees included) or its OK to kill things. According to the Bible, there's times he's really into it, so obviously he thinks sometimes its OK. People who claim to know when its OK (or not) are claiming to know the mind of God and speaking for him, which is presumptuous and egotistical, IMHO. 
Well, they should've done the honorable thing
and not invite the president if they hate him so much. Its obivious the only reason he was invited was to be humiliated which shows the total lack of class of the whole group. I'M SURE that no matter how much Mrs. King disagreed with GWB she would have had the class and consideration not to turn her funeral into a zing fest of the president. She was a very gentle and kind woman.
Anyway the NAACP knew what they were doing. They invited him so if he did come they could humiliate him, and if he didn't come they could crucify him in the press for not coming.
Hey that's the first thing you've said that I agree with
helping the situation.
Ha!! Best thing I've seen since Monday...lol nm
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Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Isn't that the most absurd thing you've ever heard?
That's the funniest thing I've seen today! nm
Wow! That was the best thing I've seen in a long time
Thanks for sharing. Excellent!!!!
This is by far the best post I've ever read
And it's 100% true, too.
I've read too much about this package
and it will not help the people that need help. It doesn't provide help to the regular "joe's" out there that need help. It is all about the greed again. Most of it will only help regular "joe's" by the year 2011, not now. By that time, we will either be down the tubes or everything will have corrected itself on its own.
I don't think government should meddle in ways to try to turn the economy around. It only mkes it worse. Look at all the handouts in the first stimulus package. Did the regular "joe's" get any help out of it? Nope. It will be the same with this one. Did you see Glen Beck's breakdown on the package posted below? If not, I suggest you look at it or else I can post it here.
It goes to show that the democrats don't give a darn about us, just their agenda even though 11 democrats voted against it. That has to say something. Evidently, the democrats (and I don't mean this harshly) didn't get enough calls from their constiuents to knock this package into oblivion. They were in a hurry to pass it? Why? Not because it would help us, but because they wanted it passed before anyone really got a chance to see what it entailed.
Sorry, but I disagree with you whole heartedly. This will not help. It will only hurt. This will take our dollars down to zero and the next thing you know, we will be taking wheelbarrows of money to the store to buy a loaf of bread if you can even find it in the stores.
That's probably the most ignorant post I've read in a while
Please consider re-reading your post and see if you truly think you have done *any* real research.
Example: Giving our money to countries (who hate us anyway)? Please give that a rest. We "give away" a pittance to countries who need it while often RAPING their resources (Africa being a great example). And we ship BILLIONS to Israel - why do they need to be subsidized by the US? THINK about it before you answer.
As a matter of fact THINK about a lot of your comments - like the ridiculous notion that we would ROB the rich to pay the poor. You clearly don't get Obama's message of empathy my friend - but more importantly your comments about this and welfare are just not FACTUAL.
When I read posts like this I am more sad than I am when I look at the current crop of corrupt politicians who want us to vote them into the whiteouse in November.
Example: Obama says he wans to stop nuclear proliferation! WHAT A JOKE. OUR #1 EXPORT is weapons of mass destruction.
How do you stop proliferation when you are the world's biggest supplier?
Best description of the Samunist I've read yet.
This post is truly one of the most digusting I've read
And there have been lots of them. "John McCain has broken up a lot of marriage?" Oh please, show me the proof. Give me the names of the marriages he broke up.
Once again another lame attempt at the liberals trying to paint an untrue picture of reality.
And can you be any more disgusting in your "glee filled" description. Anyone can make up anything and make one side look worse than the other, and that's what this looks like. Although I do have to say it's a poor attempt.
I know you think Obama is the second coming of Christ, but please don't spread your malicious rumors and lies. Is it not enough you don't like McCain and don't want him to win, that's fine and that's your perogative, but to put up an absolute piece of trash post like this shows just how low and disgusting the dems will go.
As for checking out someones butt???? You are truly a piece of work. A lot of times I will be in line and looking down towards someone's butt but it doesn't mean "I'm checking them out".
As for this post - what goes around comes around.
I've listened, watched and read
about as much as anyone and I believe the 95% applies to people who PAY taxes. Common sense.......how can you give someone a reduction in taxes who doesn't pay taxes. Nonsense.
First time I've read that quote...scary (nm)
Read this closely. You've confused me with other posters.
And you jump on me like I'm the other poster(s) that you were railing about.
Geez, at least try to address the correct poster when you go on your rants.
It's very unbecoming.
Either you can't read, or you've just proved her point. Nice going.
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If a stereotypical thing like the above had been posted on the C-board
tongue-in-cheek or not we would be castigated to no end and called racist and insensitive to cultures.
GT just exemplified her double standard, and I was calling her on it...
Please don't read this board
for accurate information regarding the candidates. I have seen so much misinformation here and there are a couple of people who constantly distort the truth and make things up. If you want the truth, get it from the newpapers and news programs and make an educated decision. Most of the news programs are putting accurate information out there, with the excpetion of Fox and MSNBC.
Better read the board again, almost everyone on it
Well, I've heard and read he's a pretty rough character
much less a peace prize candidate. In all seriousness, enlighten me as to what he's done to deserve a peace prize? I can only assume it's because of his socialistic practices that seem to now be a pre-requisite for being a peace prize candidate...
Good thing we have PSYCHIC wisdom on the board
:-(
Some on this board can only read what they want to read (nm)
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You might want to read the letter on the other board.
The one from the young Marine who says that the fighting forces in Iraq feel that the antiwar movement is enabling and strengthening the forces they are fighting. If that is not putting our troops in danger, I am not sure what is.
The way some read the board, you can't take their observations very seriously.
Some people only see what they want to see, and what they set out to see.
Let's not be stupidly single-eyed here. You can pick out any person on the board (those who sign a name, at least) and screech that they're generalizing, and you'd be right - including you and including me. Big fat so what. We do it to make a point quickly or to give a general subject view or for a lot of reasons - but we all know that when we diss the rich we're not talking about every single rich person in the world, we're talking about that particular group of them whose ethics and moral values we find repugnant.
It would make discussion totally impossible if we had to qualify every reference we make to certain groups or political parties and single out every detail in a reference when people following the conversation ought to know to whom we are referring - that's just normally expected in a rapid fire conversation, at least for those who are genuinely interested in one.
How many skinheads do you think read this board...
or pay attention to what any of us might say? Get a grip!! Reverend Wright is all over the internet. THAT is the kind of thing that inflames skinheads and their ilk. His wife saying for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country. THAT is the kind of thing that incites skinheads. Have you read the black liberation theology statement?
You are the one who needs to get real. I am on no "high horse." I don't care what color Obama is. He is a socialist, bordering on Marxist, and THAT is my problem with him, and would be my problem with him if he was white. Or Hispanic. Or Asian. Or any OTHER color.
This board is for anyone FREE, I can read anything I want.
I just don't have to post. I'm not looking for trouble. You are with your hateful posts.
Do you read anything except the posting board?
The cause of our economic meltdown was the housing meltdown. You can't blame that one on Bush. He and old McCain have been warning about it for years, but the majority Dem Congress (especially Mr. Frank and Mr. Dodd) turned a blind eye to the whole thing. Mr. Frank is on video saying, loosely quoted, "Doesn't matter if Fannie and Freddie fail. The government won't bail them out." It was all that bad fannie and freddie paper that those wall street types had bought up that crashed the market when all those bad mortgages went south...bad mortgages that the Dems insisted be given out, to people who they knew could not afford the payments, so "every american could have the american dream." Well, now we have the american nightmare. If you want to stay in denial and somehow claim this was Bush's fault, go ahead. Does not change the truth of what happened. I don't agree with everything Bush did for sure. But the "pubs" as you guys like to call them are on the right side of this issue.
And it doesn't take a Messiah...or petty hatefulness...to figure this out. Look at what is happening, what Obama has done so far, and if you can see the silver lining, please to show it to me.
I have a friend in Massachusetts who is as liberal a Democrat as they come, and he told me yesterday, about Obama: "He IS a socialist. No doubt about it." It only took him 2 months to realize it...after a year of telling me he wasn't. So, not all you are wearing blinders. lol. And a socialist is what it is, and does what it does. This country functioned beautifully on capitalism for many years and it would have recovered on capitalism as it had in the past. But Mr. Obama is doing his dead level best to kill that, kill the entrepreneurial spirit, kill ambition, kill what made this country great. If Obama really cared about the poor and unfortunate he would put them to work, not pay them to vegetate. Trite though it sounds...they need a hand pulling them up, not pushing them down.
If you read the whole thing....
it is black liberation theology basically...and is segregationist. When whites preached segregation, it was called racist. That is exactly what Michelle Obama is doing. That blacks should separate themselves from whites so as not to be "assimilated." So much for no black america, no white america, just america....she does not believe that, and I don't believe he does either. All his career, his associations, etc., do not support that he does.
After you read the thesis, you understand that she meant exactly what she said when she said for the first time in her adult life she was proud of her country.
Obviously they share this separation view and that is why they gravitated to the people they gravitated to, and to Wright's church.
And no, Obama's campaign did not release it. Princeton University did, because of the Freedom of Information Act, and she signed at the beginning of the thesis that Princeton could release it (back when she wrote it..of course, at that time had no idea she would be wife of man running for Pres of US).
I was not going to vote for Obama anyway, and this certainly moved me more solidly toward McCain.
And one more thing.........everybody read......sm
Thanks for "coming to my defense" on the board today. We might not always agree on everything, but that's the beauty of life. Y'all are the greatest! MMMMMMWWWWWWAAAAAA!!!!!
Post it on the con board. I'll read it. nm
You might want to read another article by an Iranian on the other board.
It helps to know both sides of the story and since I am pretty sure Beth is not in Iran right now, or Iranian in nationality, the one who IS there might have a better handle on things. Get the picture?
You best read up on history a little more. GOT for one thing.
This is the most nonsensical thing I have ever read. nm
I read the whole thing, and I appreciate your opinion, and I know you believe it...
now try to understand my belief. I feel that my God is a powerful and just God. I also believe that He gave His children free will, and I believe that all of us will answer to Him one day for all our choices, whatever they may be. Please understand...I do believe that those aborted babies are with God now. No doubt about it. Straight shot to his side, as they are the most innocent among us. But you cannot make me believe that a just and loving God would agree with this heinous, horrible procedure, to the tune of 1.2 million every year! I'm sorry...I just don't believe that.
And I'm sorry...I don't think murder is between God and the person. An unborn child has a soul...just like a child who has been born. What about someone who murders a child outside the womb? Is that between the murderer and the creator? What about when a pedophile hurts and then murders a child? That is between the pedophile and his creator? I am not saying that to be mean or confrontational. I am trying to understand.
My God, I believe, loves all children, and yes, children who die violently go right to His side, yes, I believe that. What I do not believe is that it was His will that they die violently. You have your belief, and I have mine. Can't be just allow each other to have our beliefs? Can't I be allowed to follow MY belief of MY God, which tells me that someone needs to speak for these children?
As you said...that is just my opinion, my belief.
I did read the whole thing, why do you assume that I
didn't? Just because I didn't feel that it was racist, doesn't mean I didn't. We obviously have different takes on it.
The release of it I was referring to was to the politico.com web site, which Obama did relase it to, not the thesis as a whole.
I agree...have read the same thing. nm
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That's the most stereotypical thing I"ve ever read
New California seems like a racist state to me....
Just ignore them, ms, obviously they refuse to read the whole thing....nm
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Then you didn't read the article on the conservative board. nuff said.
It's obvious you didn't read a DARN thing.....
First of all, real history is not taught in college either.... unless you are soooo lucky as to get a professor who actually LOVES history and really DID his/her homework.
My son is a history/political major and LOVES history... and I can assure you, he would put history teachers to shame in what they "think" they know.... the crap the government puts in their history books is all they are ALLOWED to teach in our public "government ran" schools!
Our history IS politics....where have you been? Teaching our kids politics IS teaching them history.... WOW! Glad my son is teaching them and not you!
This guy has been teaching for 19 years with NO complaints about his informative web site.... the parents have ALWAYS like it!
Only ONE person complained......ONE!!! No doubt a liberal jackarse who has NO loyalty or love for this country whatsoever.... another lost soul.
This guy had an introductory video where he says he truly wanted his kids to LOVE America.........what the heck is wrong with that?
He was told to remove that video because everyone "did not love America"..... huh? Then I suppose they can sit on their sorry sad butts and hate everything....who cares? This guy did nothing wrong but encourage students to love their country but of course, you WOULD have something wrong with that! Geesh!
I get amazed every time I come on this board and read "strong Christians" who consistently pas
(Didn't Jesus have something very wise and definite to say about that?), insult and degrade "heathens" if their spiritual beliefs are not EXACTLY those of the mainstream right, even though they supposedly love this country which was founded on religious freedom and tolerance for ALL; cast stones every which way (Jesus also had a lot of good stuff to say about that)....yeah, they can proclaim to know it all if they do it under the "true Christian" banner. Here is a question. If you died this second and had to defend some of these insulting inflammatory statement on this board, other than the fact of saying to Him "I was being a Christian," do you think Jesus would take that as an excuse, or would he shake his head in sadness that you really didn't get "all of the story" of the New Testament, where love, tolerance, mercy, forgiveness, and HUMILITY wer preached to all???????
So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,
some respect?
You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*
Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.
You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.
That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS. Your posts don't show respect. They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.
You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?
Please. Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.
You're becoming quite a bore. You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight. You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board. Maybe that should work both ways.
Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all. You believe in SUPERIORITY. Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else. Sheesh! You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.
You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred.
In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate. I've seen them. (I hope you don't chase them away, too.) But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.
Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.
Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board
Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate. Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.
I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc. After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come. Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.
I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates. What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board. Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin. You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.
Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin. The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby. Talk about just bizarre comments. I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet? The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre. Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations. I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.
I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam. Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics. I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the” This childish rhetoric is getting old. I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics. If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.
I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming. She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good. Let people express his or her opinion and move on. If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)
I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right. If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.
I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates. That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason. I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.
If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face.
Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.
To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.
Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.
This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.
The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred. It's not something I'd very proud of.
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