That's probably the most ignorant post I've read in a while
Posted By: CJ on 2008-08-29
In Reply to: I have researched Obama. - Not for McCain or Obama
Please consider re-reading your post and see if you truly think you have done *any* real research.
Example: Giving our money to countries (who hate us anyway)? Please give that a rest. We "give away" a pittance to countries who need it while often RAPING their resources (Africa being a great example). And we ship BILLIONS to Israel - why do they need to be subsidized by the US? THINK about it before you answer.
As a matter of fact THINK about a lot of your comments - like the ridiculous notion that we would ROB the rich to pay the poor. You clearly don't get Obama's message of empathy my friend - but more importantly your comments about this and welfare are just not FACTUAL.
When I read posts like this I am more sad than I am when I look at the current crop of corrupt politicians who want us to vote them into the whiteouse in November.
Example: Obama says he wans to stop nuclear proliferation! WHAT A JOKE. OUR #1 EXPORT is weapons of mass destruction.
How do you stop proliferation when you are the world's biggest supplier?
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This is by far the best post I've ever read
And it's 100% true, too.
This post is truly one of the most digusting I've read
And there have been lots of them. "John McCain has broken up a lot of marriage?" Oh please, show me the proof. Give me the names of the marriages he broke up.
Once again another lame attempt at the liberals trying to paint an untrue picture of reality.
And can you be any more disgusting in your "glee filled" description. Anyone can make up anything and make one side look worse than the other, and that's what this looks like. Although I do have to say it's a poor attempt.
I know you think Obama is the second coming of Christ, but please don't spread your malicious rumors and lies. Is it not enough you don't like McCain and don't want him to win, that's fine and that's your perogative, but to put up an absolute piece of trash post like this shows just how low and disgusting the dems will go.
As for checking out someones butt???? You are truly a piece of work. A lot of times I will be in line and looking down towards someone's butt but it doesn't mean "I'm checking them out".
As for this post - what goes around comes around.
This is the most ignorant cr@p I've ever heard
Why aren't you talking about the anchor babies born in the U.S.? How can they be natural born citizens when there parents are illegal? That is a much bigger problem to our economy than Obama's birth certificate. Use your brains...if you have one....Obama is an American citizen, his birth certificate is on the internet and when you're following these idjits that keep this stuff going, your mind isn't on the real problems of this country and that's what these radical groups who keep the ridiculous lawsuits going want you to do.
Ignorant post
Your ignorance is showing big time..I suggest to all of you who do not know how to debate, take a class at your local high school or college on debating..It is obvious most of the neocons, who for whatever reason I cant imagine frequent the liberal board, do not know how to debate intelligently, logically and fairly. When debating, you do not attack the opposite side personally, you attack the ideas put forth by the opposite side. Yet, reading over all the neocons posts on this board, all they do is attack the poster, not the ideas suggested and put forth..It gets ugly because they attack the poster, not the ideas, which makes me shake my head in wonder, as the neocons know nothing at all about the liberal poster, yet they assume greatly. Please, neocons, take a class on debating or probably you could even find out the correct way to debate by searching the internet..cause these personal attacks get tiring..so tiring..
This post is entirely too ignorant
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What an ignorant post
I got a news bulletin for ya, pal: The ONLY ones mooching off the the government are the ones raiding the TREASURY and while both parties have done it, the CURRENT crop of criminals hail from the GOP.
I don't believe Obama will deliver a fraction of what he promises, but MCBUSH promises more war, more enemies,more bloodshed, and more RAIDING OF THE TREASURY.
Spend a few seconds educating yourself, if you dare. I know its a LOT easier though, to just sit behind a keyboard in judgement of people YOU don't know and in whose shoes you certainly have never walked.
What an IGNORANT Post
I have seen some pretty ridiculous posts on here, but this one takes the cake.
I am a Democrat and am NONE of the things you seem to think we are.
My father was a veteran of every US war since WWII and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. He fought for YOUR rights and freedom. I don't recall any of you right wingers sitting holding my hand at nights while my father was serving in the jungles of Viet Nam. Most assuredly Do NOT assume that I am a fan of Jane Fonda!!
Do not assume you know anything about me. I know nothing about you except for your narrow-minded opinion expressed for all the world to see.
Thank you for illustrating how narrow minded and hypocritical some people truly are.
another ignorant post from a neocon
Your accusation that because Im liberal/democrat/anti war and so I smoke reefer shows your ignorance..PERIOD..I dont post in broad generalizations and I ask you to show me where I have..PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I HAVE POSTED IN BROAD GENERALIZATIONS OR LIES. And, I once again ask you to show me the news reports of where there was a stench in the DC mall because of the anti war people or the anti war people in your town do not bathe and stink..Show me the stories..Waiting for the proof..sure hope you can post it, otherwise guess you are discredited and proven to be a liar (so what else is new, conservative=liar)..Guess you need to find another handle to post under the liberal board, LOL.
Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.
I've read too much about this package
and it will not help the people that need help. It doesn't provide help to the regular "joe's" out there that need help. It is all about the greed again. Most of it will only help regular "joe's" by the year 2011, not now. By that time, we will either be down the tubes or everything will have corrected itself on its own.
I don't think government should meddle in ways to try to turn the economy around. It only mkes it worse. Look at all the handouts in the first stimulus package. Did the regular "joe's" get any help out of it? Nope. It will be the same with this one. Did you see Glen Beck's breakdown on the package posted below? If not, I suggest you look at it or else I can post it here.
It goes to show that the democrats don't give a darn about us, just their agenda even though 11 democrats voted against it. That has to say something. Evidently, the democrats (and I don't mean this harshly) didn't get enough calls from their constiuents to knock this package into oblivion. They were in a hurry to pass it? Why? Not because it would help us, but because they wanted it passed before anyone really got a chance to see what it entailed.
Sorry, but I disagree with you whole heartedly. This will not help. It will only hurt. This will take our dollars down to zero and the next thing you know, we will be taking wheelbarrows of money to the store to buy a loaf of bread if you can even find it in the stores.
Best description of the Samunist I've read yet.
I've listened, watched and read
about as much as anyone and I believe the 95% applies to people who PAY taxes. Common sense.......how can you give someone a reduction in taxes who doesn't pay taxes. Nonsense.
That's the most sensible thing I've read on this board
in a looooong time. Why should somebody who works hard (or inherits) for their money have to pay more taxes than someone who makes (or inherits) less money. Everybody paying the same - that is equality. 
First time I've read that quote...scary (nm)
Thank you - the wisest thing I've read yet today
I keep posting there are bad and good on both sides. Neither side is perfect. There are a lot of democrats I agree with and I think they are right on (Kucinich, Richardson, and others in the senate). Actually there are more democrats I agree with than I would rather admit to. HA HA, but there are some I absolutely do not agree with (Pelosi, Reid, Clinton and others). On the other side there are some republicans I agree with (Ron Paul and others, can't think of any others right now just cos I'm so tired) and those that I think really stink (Bush at the top of them), but unless we get on this board praising Obama and every single democrat and cut down and destroy every republican, we will get bashed over and over. I have said many times there are good and bad on both sides and if people are going to follow the group think and not think for themselves, well that's when they lose a part of their sense. My mom is a great one. I don't know how many arguments I will have with her. She hates Bush so much with such a vengence she has come right out and said what she want to happen. "He's a liar, he's this, I don't have any money because of Bush, etc, etc. But the minute I say to her If you want to talk about liars lets hit on Clinton, or lets talk about what Obama said. Ohhhh no, can't do that. I was also told by her "If you know what is good for you, you'll stop saying those bad things about him". I asked her what exactly does that mean and she said I just better watch it. Then I said to her, well how can you say what you say about Bush but I tell you I disagree about something Obama said and your ready to report me to the authorities. Funny how someone mysteriously happened to be knocking on her door at that moment and she had to leave (btw, I didn't hear anything in the background and her phone is in the halway near her front door). So unless people will admit when they are wrong there will always be arguments.
Read this closely. You've confused me with other posters.
And you jump on me like I'm the other poster(s) that you were railing about.
Geez, at least try to address the correct poster when you go on your rants.
It's very unbecoming.
Either you can't read, or you've just proved her point. Nice going.
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Well, I've heard and read he's a pretty rough character
much less a peace prize candidate. In all seriousness, enlighten me as to what he's done to deserve a peace prize? I can only assume it's because of his socialistic practices that seem to now be a pre-requisite for being a peace prize candidate...
Now THAT's the smartest thing I've read in a long time! nm
East Ohio Gas has been using natural gas to fuel their utility trucks for years - why hasn't that caught on? Makes ya wonder..............
I re-read your post, and I stand by my post.
You are twisting his words by saying that he wants to make friends with terrorists. That is not what he said.
Excellent post - best I've seen in a long time
Thanks for posting. I really wish more people would think like this. I just want someone qualified who will do what is best for the people of the country. It's just not happening and hasn't been for some time. Forget the name calling and who started it. All I know is it's broken and needs to be fixed and this is an excellent way to fix it.
sorry, should read I did not read post that way.
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I did read the post that way.
One poster asked who would join in rebuilding Iraq and this poster answered she would join. I am not quite sure why the quibbling of semantics. Do you do that to all posters who post here? If so, it's disturbing.
I don't think your read my post
I said the main reason for newspapers' decline was the internet, but your insinuation that people don't read the newspaper simply because they can't read well really doesn't make any sense and is frankly, condescending.
Read the post Ex....
you can disagree without mocking and ridiculing...and yes, sometimes, you CAN take the high road and just ignore a post by someone who posted emotionally and took personally a post because her son is serving in Iraq and tells a different story. What could that possibly have hurt, just to let that one slide? Or respond to it in a less personal or ridiculing way?
And then "think Liberal" asserting to me that she had the right to disagree and criticize something she did not believe it...but berating "sick and fed up" in a rather personal manner for doing the same thing. THAT sounds pretty one-sided to me. And not necessary.
Thanks for your post.
Did you even read the post???
we are talking about a program that is already in place, the money already there...lots of red cents as a matter of fact. We have more social programs than any country in the WORLD = millions of red cents. What pray tell are you talking about? Billions for killing Iraqis? Are you prez of Michael Moore's fan club? Sigh.
You obviously did not read my post...
Air America failed because not enough people listened to it. Simple as that. I thought your original post said something about Republicans in the minority...not all Republicans are conservative and not all Republicans are Christians. And, there are a bunch of Democrats who are Christians. So what are you talking about? Christians or Republicans?
LOL ... if you read my whole post ...
I have said I have not made up my mind about who I am voting for.
I SAID I have not formed an total opinion on Palin.
I have watched many of O'Bama's interviews ... ... I read his book ... I'm evaluating his "judgment" ...
And to me, he comes across as arrogant. AND, THIS IS JUST WHAT IT IS -- MY OPINION. And I am entitled to it, just like you are entitled to yours!!!
That does not make me stupid. But if it makes YOU feel better to call anyone who doesn't agree with you and your opinions stupid, go ahead -- go for it! I can take it.
Also, glad to see now I'm a mina bird .. Love It!
no, make that a "stupid mina bird" ...
.... too bad I have to go to work now .. who names what other names I could be called ... just because I have my own opiniosn and they are different from yours!
good day!
ROTFL .... outta here
At last. Some who actually read the post.
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Read the other post again.
If you were not in a chat room, but rather were in an office setting with co-workers, you would not be in a situation where you could openly discuss religion or politics. It is a work setting. Noone said anything about religion not be the "fabric of your life." Good for you. Go for it. Whenever you decide to impose your religious or political beliefs on somebody else, you are going to hit a snag. Point it, the founding fathers explicitly expressed "congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of reigion." This is the FIRST directive in the FIRST amendment. They then proceeded to establish a secular federalist system, not a theocracy. Congress, though the may have agreed among them to say a prayer before their session, are to check their religion the moment they start to make law...which is, after all, their jobs.
read 2nd post from top
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Read my post below........
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Please read my post above and ....
read the snopes link info. The meaning is very different when looking at the entire context. And I am not an O fan but posting information taken out of context is just wrong no matter what side one is on. If the first post was an honest mistake/
misunderstanding, hey, that happens, but the snopes link demonstrates the truth of the quote so don't compound the mistake by continuing it.
I did read you whole post and all I can say....sm
is what is wrong with you? Get a grip! Why so much negativity? Give the guy a chance. Are you hoping and praying he will fail so you can be right? We all have questions and no one knows how all this will pan out. The country is in a crisis and he is going to be the POTUS. Not having to join a bread line will be a plus for me. That being said, yes, I do have hope he is the right person at the right time for our country, and I pray for his to have the strength, intelligence and compassion to see us over this rough road.
Did you even read the post
Doesn't sound like things are going to be much better from what I read.
Should have read the WHOLE post
and then you would know why I said what I said.
Should have read the WHOLE post
and then you would know why I said what I said.
Again--read the whole post...
"I should have written that I am more concerned with lying, if it turns out that he is lying"
I believe you need to actually READ the post!
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Perhaps you need to re-read my post
Nowhere did I say I had the right to smoke anywhere I chose. I didn't even try to insinuate it. So before you get all righteously indignant on me, perhaps you'd better clarify whether I even made the claim you seem to want to argue.
I can also read them and post responses to them
if I like and sometimes I choose to, and I don't use use rage to get my point across like you do. You are the one that needs to take a serious chill pill...that is if you want to, but I seriously doubt it. You revel in your rage.
It might help if you actually read my post before so inaccurately
characterizing what I said.
Unless, of course, you're simply choosing to believe that I think bringing Jesus Christ into people's lives is a bad thing, even though I said the opposite in my post.
You've incorrectly pegged my very clear post in the very same way you incorrectly pegged Phil Donahue.
Please post where you read of the stench
Could you please post the sites/newspapers/whatever where you read about the stench of the anti war people? The wide sweeping generalization can be thought of as ignorant and bigoted. I would hope the places where you got the information are legitimate news sites and not freeper baloney. I assure you, liberals/democrats/anti war people smell just as good and bad as conservatives/republicans/pro war people.
Perhaps you didn't READ my post
I said -- keep it the hell out of politics.
You're welcome to claim whomever you'd like as your Saviour in the privacy of your own home and the community of your own church.
Then you read my post wrong.
I don't know what conversations have occurred on either board. I was mainly interested in why you and gt would made the assertion that somehow conservatives don't care about child molestation. Frankly, I was rather taken aback. I have never even seen the far left pin that one on conservatives. My posts have been respectful totally. I thought you wanted debate. I made that mistake one other time on this board. I won't make it again.
Maybe you should actually read the post before responding.
Bush is claiming they are working on nuclear weapons.
Iran has always claimed they are working on nuclear energy.
Who's lying? Which country has the track record for lying when it comes to reasons for declaring war on a country that didn't attack it first??
You didn't read my post
I was referring to people I talk to, as I stated. I don't generally talk to Churchill or Chomsky. In fact, I don't even pay much attention to them, nor should you. Just as I don't pay much if any attention to crazy right-wingers. Just common sense.
You read my post wrong
It is strange that this particular vet has had reported so many incidents with anti-war folks. The death threat was from a white supremist, by the way.
Once again, you did not read my post before ranting...
and why do you resort to name-calling? Does it make you feel good to call me ignorant? Well, that is a stupid question..of course it does.
Demonstrate to me that you DO really care about the soldiers. Do you think the liberal harping away, cut-and-run attitude, right up to a congressional resolution does not state emphatically to the enemy that we are weak and have lost our will to fight for what we believe in? If you answer no to that question, you better re-think your *ignorant* comment and take a long hard look at yourself.
I did not say in my post anywhere that it was impossible for a Muslim to live in harmony with a Christian...I said when is the last time you saw one carrying a sign that says so, or even one publically saying so? I have heard nothing. I have heard no Muslims calling for peace between Christians and Muslims. Not a murmur. It is they, who by their silence, lead me to believe they have no interest in it.
Well I am glad you did admit that CBS is biased. You are the first one on this board to actually admit it. I will give you points for that one.
MY trash talking? Oh please. I have called no one names here, and you call me names every time I post here.
Yes, it is the liberal board, but as the monitor has posted ad nauseam, we are allowed to post here. This is still a free country, hard as you are trying to change that.
Yes, I did, Teddy....read the whole post.
I said show some that were not responses to baits or barbs thrown at me by piglet primarily. That is exactly what I said. Again, out of context.
As to Teddy/Taiga...I knew you only as Teddy (and a few other monikers by style of posting), and I do lean back toward that moniker when the posts lean in that direction, because under that moniker is when you were more likely to bait, demean, and ridicule. In short, "Teddy" seemed to be more "cranky" more often than does "Taiga."
As to posting as Observer....I don't know about that. No one was posting as Observer when I started posting using that moniker. Which has been quite some time now.
As to when someone does it first, why respond in kind? For a long time I did not. But I guess, like you, after a prolonged period of being baited, demeaned, and ridiculed, I got "cranky" too and responded in kind. So I guess we have that in common. Like I said...I am learning at the feet of the masters.
Some who post here tho, do not appear to be "cranky." Baiting, demeaning, and ridiculing seem to be in their nature (hence the Ann Coulter of the liberal board comment). I don't appreciate Ann Coulter's brand of humor either, by the way. I don't find baiting, demeaning, and ridiculing amusing. By anyone, on any side of any aisle.
Honest? I can't read this post.
Too windy, not enough time. I got as far as hippocracy, not true. Just waiting for our day in court that's all. Quite frankly, their crimes, if given the chance to be brought to light, and hopefully proven, will be far worse than anything Clinton did.
We don't need a hero. Waiting for the savior on the white horse? Doesn't exist. WE are the heroes.
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