Thanks...glad you could see it for what it was. Star Wars, pure and simple...nm
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Former Head of Star Wars: Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006 The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney. Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security. Bowman worked secretly for the US government on the Star Wars project and was the first to coin the very term in a 1977 secret memo. After Bowman realized that the program was only ever intended to be used as an aggressive and not defensive tool, as part of a plan to initiate a nuclear war with the Soviets, he left the program and campaigned against it. In an interview with The Alex Jones Show aired nationally on the GCN Radio Network, Bowman (pictured below) stated that at the bare minimum if Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were involved in 9/11 then the government stood down and allowed the attacks to happen. He said it is plausible that the entire chain of military command were unaware of what was taking place and were used as tools by the people pulling the strings behind the attack. Bowman outlined how the drills on the morning of 9/11 that simulated planes crashing into buildings on the east coast were used as a cover to dupe unwitting air defense personnel into not responding quickly enough to stop the attack. The exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD....that they didn't they didn't know what was real and what was part of the exercise, said Bowman I think the people who planned and carried out those exercises, they're the ones that should be the object of investigation. Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, If I had to narrow it down to one person....I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney. Bowman said that privately his military fighter pilot peers and colleagues did not disagree with his sentiments about the real story behind 9/11. Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government. Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined. Bowman trashed the 9/11 Commission as a politically motivated cover-up with abounding conflicts of interest, charging, The 9/11 Commission omitted anything that might be the least bit suspicious or embarrassing or in any way detract from the official conspiracy so it was a total whitewash. There needs to be a true investigation, not the kind of sham investigations we have had with the 9/11 omission and all the rest of that junk, said Bowman. Asked if the perpetrators of 9/11 were preparing to stage another false-flag attack to reinvigorate their agenda Bowman agreed that, I can see that and I hope they can't pull it off, I hope they are prevented from pulling it off but I know darn good and well they'd like to have another one. A mainstay of the attack pieces against Charlie Sheen have been that he is not credible enough to speak on the topic of 9/11. These charges are ridiculed by the fact that Sheen is an expert on 9/11 who spends hours a day meticulously researching the topic, something that the attack dogs have failed to do, aiming their comments solely at Sheen's personal life and ignoring his invitation to challenge him on the facts. In addition, from the very start we have put forth eminently credible individuals only for them to be ignored by the establishment media. Physics Professors, former White House advisors and CIA analysts, the father of Reaganomics, German Defense Ministers and Bush's former Secretary of the Treasury, have all gone public on 9/11 but have been uniformly ignored by the majority of the establishment press. Will Robert Bowman also be blackballed as the mainstream continue to misrepresent the 9/11 truth movement as an occupation of the fringe minority? Bowman is currently running for Congress in Florida's 15th District. --------------------------------- http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...mainsuspect.htm
It was a Star Wars reference......you're the one that injected racism. nm
You are a liar, pure and simple
While parts of this may be from a court brief, they are taken wholly out of context and your entire posting is a cut and paste from a neocon website article. Time to 'fess up!
Your source of "facts" will always be totally different from the liberal board's source of facts so we are never going to agree on much of anything in general. SO therefore we cannot debate.
Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple...
We do have free speech but it is wrong to make things up about people. Didn't your mom teach you that? The stuff about Palin and Bush are facts. What you put about Obama being compared to Hitler is trouble making slander and liable and hateful. I won't even respond to you anymore on this board because it gives attention to a person who doesn't deserve it. All I can say is OBAMA WON AND THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY WANTED HIM SO TOUGH NOOGIES.
This is brainwashed hogwash, pure and simple.
You've been lied to since the get-go; 1948, to be precise.
I will be so glad when the culture wars are over
Self-rightous yuppies craming their radical ideas down everyone's throat. Church law versus the bible. They make this stuff up as they go along.
This is bulls**t. Pure and simple. But you guys LOVE the troops. News flash. SM
Recruiters are troops.
You guys are wussies. Pure and simple. Wussies. nm
Closing Gitmo is not as simple as simple
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simple exercise or simple mind
ever heard of thyroid dysfunction, ever heard of drugs that cause weight gain (such as steroids) or any other cause for obesity? Don't be so self-righteous.
Glad you enjoyed them and glad to see you back!
Do you think men don't come back from all wars changed? SM
What war is worth fighting for? Explain that to me. During World War II, ten times the men that have died in Iraq in two years died in one day. How many is too many? What is worth fighting for?
If these wars go on much longer we will need to reinstitue
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If these wars go on much longer we will need to reinstitue
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wars are part of life.
Sometimes they cannot be avoided. 99.9% of pregnancies can be avoided. Unwanted babies can be adopted. There is absolutely no comparison between loss of life in war and killing the unborn. your attitude is pathetic.
fake wars? you are delusional.
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Get off the Bush's wars thing....
First of all, Congress put us there, both parties, and your hero has said we belong in Afghanistan and has stepped that one up since he has been in office. There is your inconvenient truth.
Second of all, you again missed the BIG point. If he is concerned about us here, then let him follow through with his "immediate withdrawal" promise and bring home members of the National Guard. There is a reason why a national force should be STATE controlled, not controlled at the Federal level. Posse comitatus was written for a reason...and the way to get around that is to make it a "police" force and not a military force. I cannot BELIEVE that a thinking person would even ENTERTAIN the thought that a national police force was a good thing. Have you been watching the Iranian Republican Guard lately? THAT is a national police force. And you want something like THAT in this country? COmpletely controllable by ONE man? You ARE kidding, RIGHT????
Star of Hope
I saw these people last night on TV. This is an organization that has been around for awhile, its purpose being to house the homeless. It is what they do all the time, not just this disaster. They are taking people into their own homes and finding places for people to stay. Their web is sohmission.com. Check them out. They sound like an established experienced group. I was thinking of sending money to them rather than the Red Cross. Just an FYI.
You get a gold star!
People seem to still not be getting this simple fact, and Bush makes an easy scapegoat anyway.
Congress and the Senate = Idiots 'R' Us.
Most wars in our history have been started by Democrats. sm
Thus, your hypothesis is an empty one.
I do not support unjust wars, and I am not ashamed to say so!
Do you know many billions of dollars have been wasted in Iraq? Our men and women do not belong there, and I believe their time would be better spent doing something constructive in this country rather than killing people in other countries.
It will save money by not having to support TWO wars....
That same old BS - tax and spend democrats..........it takes money to make money....I suppose we could just sit here and do NOTHING......that was working, wasn't it?
and you would prefer what, that he say, yes, I am a rock star
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Party like a rock star .....
and spend money like it grows on trees. Don't worry, we will be fine here Pres., eating our Ramen Noodles and Kool-aid.....
Despite your attempt at spin - Afghan and Iraq are 2 different wars.....nm
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Trying to lump the 2 wars into one and call Obama a liar is S-P-I-N
Unless you are really ignorant and do not realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are 2 separate countries. (The middle east......Obama was going to bring our troops home! Now he's sending 17,000 troops to Afghanistan! He lied!) You try to incite "war" against Obama based on your inability to comprehend what you read and what you don't remember..........sounds like BS to me.
Pure hysteria, much of what you say.
I might also add, that as a casual observor, your hatred of conservatives, or as you so sweetly call them *CONS* is very evident. It's ludicrous to deny it. Anyone who does not agree with you, even when they are not of the political persuasian you accuse them of being, they are labeled and you send up a cry to the moderator and THEN you insult the moderator! LOL. You duplicity is quite obvious. Except, perhaps, to you. Let the flames begin!
Pure Class.
Adults acting like children once again. Proves my point every time.
That's pure propaganda
Right down to the music that is being played in the background. Anyone can take bits and pieces of articles and flash them on the screen. Those aren't facts.
The democrates did not cause the financial crisis. Here are some real facts:
Since 1960 the nation's deficit has risen during every republican administration and dropped during every democratic administration.
The standard of living and income has improved for everyone in the country during every democratic administration since 1960, EVEN for the top 1% of the country. It has gotten worse for everyone in the country during every republican adminstration EXCEPT the top 1%.
While Nixon and Ford were in office interest rates for mortgages had ballooned to 11%-13% and many people in this country could not afford to buy a home. Carter brought those rates down so that more people in this country could afford to buy homes.
What caused this mess is not the people who were extended credit. Here is part of what caused it: Banks issued subprime mortgages to people at a rate they could initially afford but which would increase to an inflated rate after a period of time. Those banks then immediately sold those mortgages at the inflated rates to other banks. First-time home buyers were especially targeted. A lot of them didn't understand what they were getting into because it was misrepresented to them. They didn't know, for example, they could not refinance for a period of time without huge penalities. Then the market started to decline and many of those homeowners found themselves upside down on their loans and they were unable to refinance. Their interest rates had ballooned to rates they could no longer afford. As homeowners lost their homes the banks who were sold the loans at inflated prices were no longer able to collect on those loans. But the banks (and the CEOs) that initated those loans walked away with a great deal of money.
It was because of greed. And the deregulation that the republicans passed allowed it to happen.
pure supposition and
not supported by any available information.
That's because it is pure hogwash.
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gurl....I really don't care if he wants to be a rock star...
I just don't understand why he keeps saying he doesn't want to be likened to a rock star or a celebrity when all his actions say the opposite.
What I really do care about is his ability to perform as President. If I had confidence in that it would be a different story. I would like to believe what he says, and if he is not honest about the little things I have no confidence he will be honest about bit things. Just my opinion, gurl.
Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. WHen all this rock star talk started...
I saw an interview and have seen him say since that that is not the way he wants to be portrayed (like a rock star). So you are telling me now that he in fact DOES want to appear like a rock star? Well I stand corrected then. He chose the right people to design his set.
It is not insulting to suggest that people actually research things before they post them and not just take blogs and talking points for their information. Your compatriots have told me several times to do the research. I suppose it is all right coming from your side but insulting coming from mine. I get it.
But yes, go look at the votes. See how many times McCain and Bush butted heads and how many times McCain crossed party lines. How many times has Biden done that? None. How many times has Obama done that? None. As one Democrat poster posted to me below, Joe Biden knows that he has to be loyal to the party. That crystallized exactly what i have been trying to say. Yep, no matter what he takes, lying about a friend and throwing him under the bus, whatever it takes...loyalty to the party trumps everything.
And that is one area where McCain has them ALL beat. He has the guts to jump party lines for what he believes in. Because the American people have his loyalty, not the Republican party. That is something neither Obama or Biden can say. They never have, nor would they ever, jump party lines.
Early voting down here in the Lone Star and already
trying to mislead democratic voters. Hmmmm.
Tell it to the Lone Star. W is solely responsible
More premedicated murder and gestapo police state policies than any gov in history heere. Hope he gets brought up on the criminal charges he deserves so he can get a taste of his own medicine.
Wanna revist the Romney/McCain primary wars?
Then he was "honored" to share speeching spotlight with Cindy and SP at RNC. Did he lie? Which time? SP's ebay claim was presented to the entire nation as a feather in her fiscal responsibility cap. This flies in the face of information found on this most interesting link, authored by a Wasilla woman who has personally known SP since 1992. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/kilkenny.asp
Pure trash from beginning to end.
Are you not aware how old this smear campaign is and how ineffective it has been thus far? Though it seems like a couple of lifetimes ago, I do recall it being around at least as far back as February. It was kept alive all the way up until Obama successfully clenched the nomination of his party despite the Hannity cult's diligence to make it stick. It finally faded out after their original mission had failed miserably and he emerged from the primaries on top. You can post this stupidity until the end of time but it isn't going to accomplish anything except to make you look like the ignorant, out of touch bigot that you are, marginalize the fringe that subscribes to these beliefs and make your own party look like fools.
I am a WASP American who has many more Moslem friends than Christians for reasons that would be a waste of time to explain to someone with such a narrow, tiny brain. My relationship to that community spans more than 5 decades and my life has been enriched tenfold because of it. I have traveled there, lived amongst them, married into a Moslem family, born Christian children from that union and buried a few along the way. I speak 2 of their languages, have read the Quran, their literature and appreciated their extensive historical contributions to the arts, music and the sciences.
I have lost count of how many of them I have known. I can tell you they are an intelligent, educated and spiritual people. They have family values every bit as strong as Americans and an even stronger sense of community. They take pride in humility and honor. In all those many years, never ONCE have I known a terrorist among them. I know they are out there and I know that unfortunately the politicized version of Islam is every bit as ugly as the politicized version of Chritianity.
It makes no difference whether Obama is a Christian with Moslem ties or a Moslem who has converted (which he is not). As a matter of fact, I have also known many Moslems who have converted, but Obama is not one of them. He is a remarkable human being and this country is blessed to have him as a choice for leadership in this election. What I can tell you is that the ugly, bigoted sentiments expressed here are universally repulsive to all people of faith. Today, you have made me feel ashamed to call myself a Christian.
What a load of pure dung! nm
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Hmmmm, pure dung? Definitely an
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No new adult film star quotes for today
now you're rehasing the old one....
Long Live King George!!
Bush to dine with *Christian* porn star...again
Porn starlet Mary Carey to dine with Bush again
World Net Daily | March 13 2006
Mary Carey, the buxom, XXX movie star who caused an uproar last year for dining with President Bush and her pornographer, apparently still has a hunger for the nation's capital, and will have dinner with the president once again this week.
The former candidate for California governor is to attend the United to Victory dinner with Bush on Thursday, and have lunch at a related event Wednesday where Bush adviser Karl Rove is the guest speaker. She says she's taking part at the invitation of the National Republican Congressional Committee, which is organizing the events.
I'm really excited to be going back to Washington D.C. to see the president again, said Carey. Everyone thinks that politicians are stuffy, but we all had a great time last year, and I had fun signing a lot of autographs. Wait till they see that I have lost 20 pounds since the last time they saw me. Watch out Mr. President!
According to a news release, Carey is slated to receive the 2005 California Businesswoman of the Year award for her efforts in starting Mary Carey Productions, Inc. I'm always excited to learn more about what's going on in our nation's capital, since most people in the porn industry think an Iraqi pullout is a form of safe sex, she quipped. Since I'm seriously considering running for governor of California again, I'm going to need a lot of support from Republican lawmakers nationwide – however I can get it. The NRCC is the same group that accepted $5,000 from Carey and her pornographer, Mark Kulkis of Kick A-- Pictures, and allowed the pair to take part at the 2005 Flag Day Dinner. Asked by WND last year about the propriety of the Republican Party collecting $5,000 from a pornographer and the example such an appearance set for the moral climate of the nation, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said: I think you need to direct those questions to the committee itself. When WND contacted the NRCC about the Flag Day event, spokesman Carl Forti said, They've paid their money. No matter what they do, the money is going to go to help elect Republicans to the House. In an exclusive interview with WorldNetDaily, Carey said despite her racy occupation, she's still a Christian, and has her own aspirations of winning the presidency in the future. I read the Bible and pray every night, she explained. Carey, whose real name is Mary Ellen Cook, says she was named after the Mary Ellen character on The Waltons TV show. Born in Cleveland, she was raised in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., studied theater in college, and worked jobs in restaurants before trying stripping and then making the decision to enter the world of celluloid sex. I kind of wanted to be a porn star, she said. I wasn't raped or abused. With a Lutheran grandmother, Carey says she attended church regularly until the age of 12. Despite having numerous sexual partners, she remains proud of her occupation. I probably have less sex with those guys than any college girl [typically has]. It doesn't make me less moral, she said. I'm sure a lot of Christians have had sex before marriage. God reads my heart. I'm a good person. ... I think I have more morals than the politicians in office. I don't rob, steal, hurt, or lie – a lot of politicians do that. When asked about Bible verses condemning adultery, she responded, Bill Clinton committed adultery. [Doing] adult movies is acting, portraying a role. It's not Mary Ellen Cook, the real me. http://prisonplanet.com/articles/ma...130306Carey.htm
The only point I can see is....he keeps denying the rock star thing...
and then has a rock star set designer do the set. Okay...so which is it?
McCain is not a Bush clone. The two are nothing alike. But, of course, to know that you would have to research it and would actually have to care about accuracy.
'Nuff said.
What we were taught though was to SING the Star Spangled Banner...sm
Hand over the heart and sing the words. It amazes me that not everyone does that, but that is what I was taught. Most people do not even know the words.
Read between the lines....pure sarcasm.....nm
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Pure garbage. I actually think the repubs leaked that...sm
personal baloney about Sarah to gain her the sympathy vote.
I investigated this and your allegations are pure garbage. nm
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Eden Pure Heater answer
We had one last year for the bedroom. It died a week after the warranty ran out. Didn't last a full winter and we only turned it on 2 hours before going to bed.
Try getting in touch with them. Couldn't find a phone number. Found the ad and wrote a letter. Never heard a thing.
Well...the flight suit might disspell some of the rock star image...
I think Invesco field and the whole rock star set is going to do nothing to help him trying to portray himself as a serious politician ready to lead this country. But...I will wait until I actually see it...have only seen pictures so far. But if it is anything like it looks, it will be more like a hollywood musical than a political event. Maybe it IS all about the celebrity. Kinda looks like it might be.
It's official. Rahm Emanuel star of democratic party
accepts position of the O's chief of staff.
Yeah, next time we're just going to make our candidate a pop star.
Since it worked out so well for y'all.
Why don't you just let go of the bitterness already? It's petty.
Porn star contemplates run in Louisiana U.S. Senate race
Porn star and Baton Rouge native Stormy Daniels said Monday that she wants to give voters a voice by starting a “listening tour” in Louisiana.
However, Daniels said she doubts she will actually seek public office despite an Internet drive aimed at persuading her to run against first-term Republican U.S. Sen. David Vitter next year.
Daniels said her work as an actress, writer, director and dancer pays the bills more than a stint as a senator would.
“I don’t think I’m willing to take the pay decrease,” Daniels said.
But an Internet-based campaign to “Draft Stormy” to challenge Vitter has attracted national attention.
CNN.com, for instance, featured an interview with Daniels on Monday. The congressional newspaper “The Hill” also noted the push to turn the porn star into a politician.
Vitter apologized in 2007 for what he called a “very serious sin” after his phone number showed up during an investigation of the escort service operated by Deborah Palfrey, the so-called “D.C. Madam” who was convicted of running a prostitution ring and later committed suicide. He was not charged in the Palfrey case.
Since his apology, Vitter has refused to answer any questions about the incident.
Aaron Baer, a spokesman for the Republican Party of Louisiana, dismissed Daniels’ possible candidacy as a publicity stunt.
“Voters in Louisiana are concerned about real issues that require serious leadership,” he said.
University of New Orleans student Zach Hudson said the “Draft Stormy” campaign is legitimate.
“It’s not a stunt,” he said. “We have every intention of successfully drafting her.”
Hudson said he hopes a groundswell of support will convince Daniels to run.
Daniels, 29, hired a publicist to respond to inquiries about her interest in the Senate race.
She said she will play along to bring attention to certain issues and to remove Vitter from office.
Daniels is critical of Vitter’s response to his phone number being found on a Washington prostitution ring’s client list.
“I might be a slut and a whore,” Daniels said. “… but I’m not a criminal, and I’ve never been a hypocrite.”
Daniels will be in Baton Rouge in early May to dance at the Gold Club and possibly film a movie in New Orleans. She said she is open to touring the state to hear what people have to say.
Vitter’s spokesperson did not respond to two requests for comment.
Daniels is a 1997 graduate of Scotlandville Magnet High School. She said she is registered to vote in California.
Her work in the adult entertainment industry includes writing and directing films as well as starring in them.
Hudson, who has volunteered for the campaigns of several Democratic candidates but said he is not affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other party, said Daniels is a leader in a multibillion-dollar industry.
Daniels said she is hesitant to enter the race because she is concerned about making a mockery of government.
She said the focus would be on the fact that she works in the sex industry.
Daniels said she wants to bring awareness to issues such as child pornography, safe sex and the need for Internet controls to limit what children see on the Web. She has her own Web site that sells pornographic images.
She made an appearance at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., last year to push a “Restricted to Adults” label for adult Internet sites.
Political commentator and former Insurance Commissioner Jim Brown said Daniels would be just one more entry in the state’s colorful political history.
He said she might attract “a pretty good protest vote” even if she isn’t destined to serve in the U.S. Senate.
“No, she can’t win,” Brown said.
Baton Rouge pollster Bernie Pinsonat said the likelihood of Vitter being defeated is diminishing by the day.
The negative publicity that President Barack Obama is receiving on the economic package is giving Vitter a good platform, he said.
“I thought Vitter would have a tough time getting re-elected, but right now, Obama is sent from heaven,” he said.
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