Terrorists arrived there AFTER our brilliant
Posted By: Flowers and candy occupation. nm on 2008-11-01
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This just arrived in my inbox
anyone who is really interested in facts might want to check it out:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
Look how rumors get started.
VOTING WITH A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!!!
the daily koo-aid drinkers have arrived!...nm
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His Majesty, the Pope has ARRIVED....
Yes my child, what can I do for you?
arrived in Tel Aviv and is calleing for the
establishment of a Palestinian State.
Lest we forget, Al-Quada arrived in Iraq
We are NOT IN CHARGE of what happens in Iraq. If civil war is their destiny, what make you think it will not happen REGARDLESS of when we withdraw? Genocide? By whom. Against whom? If the entire Middle East blankets itself in Islamic theocracies, we have no one to blame but western powers who have been trying to meddle in their affairs for the last 80+ years, and the US for the past 50+. Our CIA sponsored a coup that overthrew a democratically elected secular president in Iran who would have deposed monarch rule and established a secular Socialist democracy. We didn't like him so much because he had the gall to believe that Iran's oil belonged to Iran and wanted to nationalize the industry. We overthrew him and re-installed our puppet Shah who went on to repress and toture his opposition (instead of giving them representation in the government) to such an extent that Khomeini was able to spearhead his overthrow and the establishment of Islamic theocracy. The British and Americans have been the architects of the most destabilizing force in the region by its support of Israel, where we presume to draw and redraw and redraw again borders that send millions of refugees into the diaspora. Western interference in the ME is exactly the force that emboldens and empowers jihadists. Restore NORMAL relations with those countries and watch the extremist disappear back into the shadows they emerged from.
Big-3 corporate CEOs arrived in Washington in - sm
PRIVATE Lear jets to ask for a bailout. Proof positive that those people don't have a clue how to run a successful business, which is why the auto industry is now failing.
I don't want to see them get a penny only to squander it. Before I'd give a thumbs-up to any kind of a bailout, they need to:
a) SELL the jets.
b) Redesign, retool, and get out of bed with the oil industry, so they can get us independent of fossil fuels. If they had used their brains, and built cars that were equal to or better than the foreign manufacturers in quality, safety, and efficiency, they wouldn't be in this pickle. But no, they wanted their big profits NOW, and screw the future. Well, the future has now come and bit them in the behind.
c) Part of the retooling process should include dumping the CEOs (who are obviously worthless) and all upper management. The average Joe line-assemblyman could probably run those companies better than the fat-cat CEO's have been doing.
now that's brilliant! sm
your opinion is the "right one." If there was a right and a wrong, it wouldn't be an opinion.
Dude, that was brilliant!
Better check your funny bone.
He's a brilliant constitutional attorney....
No he's not, yes he is, no he's not, yes he is arguments will not win any elections.
In 3 day after running the most brilliant campaign
What part of we are in a bunch of crisEs do you not get? I for one am EXTREMELY gratified that he is the man of action we need him to be. He was elected. The electoral college members will enthusiastically cast 365 votes for him in December. On all airways and in all media outlets, he is referred to as the President Elect. He will be sworn into office in January. Get over it. You make yourself sound even more petty than Malkin. Why get so hung up over a trite technicality? Why not use your time more constructively, like trying to figure out what to do about the GOP leadership crisis/vacuum and their need for a platform transplant?
Finally a compliment for our Sarah! Yes, she is brilliant....
glad one of you finally noticed!!!!!
Yeah, yeah, I know you were being saracastic, but hey.....when you're right, I will admit it.
Sarah Palin is brilliant, make no mistake. She's smarter than you are. She's smarter than the left media.
Darn right, stroke of brilliance for the lady.
Brilliant investors who endorse Obama
You'll have to consult your usual right-wing rant rags to get the answer you want to hear. Learned a while back that trying to engage you in any sort of intelligent dialog is a waste of time and energy.
Another brilliant response from the peanut gallery!
President Obama's doing a great job, and it is eating you up inside. Why don't you just admit it instead of using elementary school comments, which are the equivalent of nya, nya, nya, nya, nya!
She is brilliant and hit the proverbial nail on the head!!!
Declare war on the media. Brilliant campaign strategy.
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My confidence in Obama is based on his brilliant intellect,
his ability to bring people together, his leadership capacity, his calm demeanor, his form of thinking, the multi-tasking problem-solving skills he has demonstrated, his world view, his plans and policies, his voting record, his biography, his focus on the middle class, his accomplishments, his instincts (especially when assessing that the country was "ready" to elect a black president), his confidence, his judgment, his desire to seek a broad-based, wide variety of opinions, his decisiveness, his vision, his orientation toward the future, his multicultural global outlook, his global appeal, his compassion, his family orientation and, above all, his love for his country. He will make an extraordinary leader for America and we are lucky and blessed to have him.
wow, what a brilliant response...boy wonder can only use Bush as an excuse for a few more months...
then he owns it.
C.S. Lewis makes a brilliant case in his book
He discusses the idea that throughout recorded human history there has been a shared notion of right and wrong - the Law of Human Nature. While it might have varied in its details from one place or time to another, it has always had striking consistency (for instance, there has never been a society in which it was considered admirable to be a coward).
He then examines the possible origins of this Law and utterly destroys any idea that it could have ever come from man himself.
Lewis himself was a rather brilliant atheist (an Oxford professor, no less) for much of his life until he finally confronted the fact that atheism was forcing him to take all sorts of foolish positions that his logical mind could not accept. He wrote 'Mere Christianity' in 1952, and it has remained essentially unassailable to this day when taken exactly as it was written without introducing any subtext. As such, it has been responsible for the conversion of many people who demand reasons for faith instead of blind assertions.
Terrorists
Why in hell would I want to convey anything to terrorists but stay hell out of our country or they will die? You, on the other hand want them to like us....I couldn't give a rat's behind what terrorists think about us except that they know we will kick their asses all the way to the meeting with virgins they want so desperately to get their hands on.
If you want to stick flowers in their guns go ahead. I would like to stand back and watch that.
Besides, since when do we let terrorists
decide who is going to be our next President? Are we so insane that we let a suspect endorsement by a terrorist organization sway our votes one way or another? OMG! I honestly can't believe this! I'm wondering what the people in the Twin Towers or the people on those planes on 9/11 (especially the ones that fought the hijackers) would think about their country now? Makes me sad to think that there are people who would cowtow to terrorist organizations. We should really all know better than that.
We will never have terrorists
under control per se, but at least we can give power back to the Muslims who don't want us dead. The more control the terrorists have and the bigger area they have to work in....the more of a threat they are to us. That is what this war means to me.
As for Obama....he himself has ridiculed this war and yet states that he will find Osama Bin Laden. Is he not raging war here? Obama himself has said that he will not take military force off of the table. Who is to say that Obama won't pull us out of Iraq and sent us to Pakistan to rage war there. We can't fight terrorists in Iraq because that is wasteful and wrong, but Obama wants to go to Pakistan and hunt down terrorists....same thing isn't it. Talk about double standards.
He is going to be spending all this money with no funding and says he will save money ending this war but it sounds to me like he could be starting a war elsewhere and then what money will he use to fund his programs.....TAXES....TAXES.....TAXES.........ON EVERYONE!!! Including the middle class that he now supposedly is looking after even though he voted before to raise taxes on us middle folks. Nothing but rhetoric to get in the office.
You mean terrorists,
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Well when terrorists...
and yes I dared to use the word TERRORISTS....strike us again on US soil....what will happen to us then? Will Obama go after them and strike back or will the US turn the other cheek to be struck again? If Obama goes after them and no other country backs us.....what will you say then?
The reason these leaders like Obama is because they see weakness. They see an opportunity for the US to fall and they are all chomping at the bit.
North Korea is still talking of launching their missile but hey....I guess since it can hit Alaska that is okay because maybe they will get Palin....huh? One less pub to worry about.
China says they hate us and blame us for the global economy issues and they are using all the money they get from our country to build up their defense.
The Taliban have already said they are planning a strike on Washington. Right there is a warning. So if the Taliban succeed....are ya'll gonna give Obama crap too for not stopping it like you did W. for 9/11 since they had "warnings."
Once again, the die hard party liners here refuse to see the mistakes in their own political party and all they can do is point the finger at the other political party.....which is why I'm an independent.
You all can go on and on about Bushy's war in Iraq but the botton line is this....would you prefer that terrorists still have control of that area? Would you prefer that the woman in that region be beaten by the taliban for talking to a man or not wearing the appropriate attire. Regardless of why we went there or not....we helped the Iraqi's. Yes we tortured to get information that would save people's lives while they captured our people and beheaded them.....yet we are the bad guys. Their whole purpose of existence is to wipe us out. They want us DEAD and now we can't even call them terrorists....are you kidding me?
Seriously.....what is your solution to this problem? Talking to terrorists who want us dead and have no problem blowing themselves up at the same time isn't going to work. The brutal beating of woman just because they exist and are inferior to men......and yet you never hear women's rights group protesting THAT.
But hey.....we have our warning from the Taliban and Obama is cutting money from defense.......makes sense.....doesn't it? I guess the only ones it makes sense too are the MSNBC watching, kool-aid drinking, far-left liberals who swoon everytime Obamanation reads from the teleprompter.
How many terrorists
have died being waterboarded? How many terrorists have we brutally tortured to where they have begged for death? How many terrorists have had their head cut off at Gitmo?
It isn't like these acts are done merely for entertainment purposes. They were used to get information out of known terrorists. It was done in an attempt to save lives. It wasn't done in an attempt to destroy lives. All terrorists want to do is destroy us.
As for the treatment at Gitmo, they have it better than prisoners here in the US have it. They get reading material, food, clean clothes, etc. Of all the terrorists at Gitmo....how many were waterboarded? 2-3? Oh my. It isn't like we have waterboarded each and every terrorist and the ones we did waterboard were done because they were high up in the ranks that they would more than likely know more information/plans, etc.
As for my religious beliefs....I would much rather do what has to be done in order to keep our country, families, children, parents, etc. safe than to cuddle people who hate us and wish nothing upon us but death.
This shows you exactly how much you know about the terrorists. sm
And THAT has been the worst part about all this. Bush hatred has not only fried you to crispy critters, it has made you dangerously ignorant.
you are the ones helping the terrorists
It is Bush and you and people who think like you who have put us at risk. We now have a full fledged terrorist state/breeding ground in Iraq because of Bush's war..That has put us at great risk for decades to come. Before Bush invaded, we had a few radicals that if we kept our focus we could have hunted down in Afghanistan and eliminated. Instead Bush invaded Iraq for no go reason other than to have a presence in the Middle East for control of the Middle East. Where is bin Laden? Why are we fighting in Iraq? Why are we there? The real murderer is somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Yet, you people continue to back this war when there is no logical good reason to have entered into it or to stay there. You and your man Bush are helping the terrorists, you have given them every reason to continue to multiply and hate us even more. You are throwing oil on fire. I want to put out the fire.
How many terrorists attacks have we had since 911
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Christian Terrorists
Christian terrorism is religious terrorism by groups or individuals, the motivation of which is typically rooted in an idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible and other Christian tenets of faith. From the viewpoint of the terrorist, Christian scripture and theology provide justification for violent political activities.
Abortion clinics have been frequent targets of violence. Christian anti-abortion terrorists and terrorist organizations include the Army of God, The Lambs of Christ, Clayton Waagner, Mike Bray, James Kopp, Paul Jennings Hill and Eric Robert Rudolph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
Exactly. Just like not all Muslims are terrorists. nm
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I am sure that we all know that not all Muslims are terrorists.
Why is that anyone who does not support Obama is automatically a bigot who hates everyone who is not a white Christian? And then I am called narrow minded--interesting!
But it's okay for terrorists to tortue,
maime (sp), and kill innocent men, women, children, news people, and our servicemen? I don't think so.
Give it up. Ain't worth it. Concentrate on more pressing issues as the above poster said.
O said nothing about negotiating with terrorists.
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Must have been palling around with terrorists
hahahahahaha
So, we are no better than terrorists? That answer
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We waterboarded known terrorists, not just
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Terrorists are not covered under
The Geneva Convention. I don't know how many times I have to repeat that tid bit of information to you people. What our government did was in an attempt to keep Americans safe and yet all you want is Bush and Cheney's head on a platter no matter what extra danger that might put our troops in.
Terrorists are not covered under
the Geneva Convention.
So you want to send a message to the terrorists.....
That Americans are all a bunch of corrupt liars who go unchecked and unpunished? I think that if you truly wanted to protect the American people that you would want dishonesty and corruption investigated. Guess not.
I don't think the terrorists will knock at our doors..
..and announce themselves as terrorists so we can shoot them. Iraq, London and 9/11 would teach us that they are much smarter and more covert than that. Besides, when the London bobbies waved their guns around they ended up killing a Brazilian electrician (I think it was Brazil).
I don't spend my days worrying about what if a terrorist shows up at my house. There really are too many other things in my life that are genuine to wonder about implausible situations such as the one you describe.
That's exactly right!! The terrorists seem to utilize the "unexpected" rather than
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Speaking of muslim terrorists
tell me, if Bush is such a great leader how come he has not gotten Bin Laden..remember him? the planner of 09/11? I think you have forgotten 09/11. Oh and imagine if Bush and the administration had actually paid some attention to the memos coming across their desks, you know, the ones about how bin laden was goingto use airplanes to attack etc..maybe just maybe, 09/11 wouldnt have happened at all.
Bush says terrorists are coming again. sm
Well, he should know. 
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_says_terrorists_are_coming_again_0915.html
That might have worked, if all the terrorists were in Afghanistan. nm
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There were no terrorists in Iraq... Saddam would not have
allowed anyone other than himself to be the terror! He would have had their heads if they were amassing there as he had TOTAL control of who and what was in his country. He also kept his peoples: the Sunis, the Shiites, and the Kurds on track. He would have never let a civil war happen. As stated, he had total control, now we have unleashed, and helped to create more, infidels.
You should be happy, the terrorists love you.
They are praying to Allah that Democrats will win in this election. Democrats believe in immediate withdrawal from Iraq. If they succeed in forcing us to leave under these circumstances, the United States will suffer a stinging defeat in the war on terror. The terrorists already believe that they drove the Russians from Afghanistan and Israel from Lebanon and Gaza. They are convinced they chased us out of Lebanon in 1983 and from Somalia in 1993. According to Osama bin Laden and those who share his views, we are militarily strong but psychologically and spiritually weak. Like it or not—and no one likes it—we cannot leave Iraq now without utterly and decisively validating this analysis. We might as well run a white flag up the flagpole at the Capitol. But then, that would probably be fine with the left, too.
The fact that you think you can negotiate with terrorists....
shows you don't have a grasp of the threat. THEY scoff at diplomacy.
Look at history if you please. Europe loves America at will...when they need us, they love us. WHen they don't, they view us with disdain. If two World Wars have not taught you that, me repeating it here will not help.
And if they yell help again, we will be there, because that is what we do, because we are America. In the mean time, I could not care less if the average German is in love with Barack Obama. When the chips are down for US, they run like scalded dogs. But let them get in a crack, and who do they yell for? It ain't the UN and NATO. THAT is the real world.
Obama does not want to negotiate with terrorists.
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At least they're not Muslim terrorists
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Aah, don't get stuck on color here.... Terrorists
they have been home grown right here in this country.....Ayers, Dohrn, just to name a couple. You know, Obama's pals that his supporters keep hearing the news media they get their info from tell everyone how he hasn't had any dealings with these two or the corrupt white multi-millionnaire realtor he has many associations with AND bought his 1.6 million dollar home from at a STEAL!
His name is Muslim. You want to pretend it's not? Now, that alone is not the issue...his Islamic relationship with terrorists in terrorist countries is the problem, of which you want to ignore. His Islamic teachings is also an issue, of which you also choose to ignore. His own family members say he is Muslim through and through. They say he is NOT a Christian, but of course, you know more than they I'm sure.
The quote "hanging around with terrorists"
came from Sarah Palin. She got the ball rolling on attacking Obama's credibility. Actually she said Obama "palls around with terrorists." Then the McCain/Palin camp started in with the Ayer's subject, trying to dig up dirt on Obama. That is pretty much all they have done throughout the campaign is sling mudd. Obviously the American people are intelligent and not gullible because the majority are casting their votes for Obama.
May the better man win and that man is Obama.
Obama bringing terrorists to the US?
The president-elect's advisers QUIETLY craft a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials.
Under plans being put together in Obama's camp, some detainees would be released and many others would be prosecuted in U.S. criminal courts.
Sorry, but I want my tax dollars and priority to focus more on our economy, jobs, war, health care, then bringing terrorists to our country for court. Not a priority on my list. What is he up to, bringing terrorists to the US? Afraid to find out.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/10/obama-planning-trials-guantanamo-detainees/
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