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Tell me how many people have died

Posted By: American Girl on 2005-06-28
In Reply to: quagmire - kt

in Iraq compared to Vietnam?  We have lost 1,700 soldiers in Iraq compared to what, nearly 100,000 or more in Vietnam.  Give us a break.  Nobody believed it before the 2004 election.  Why do you all keep spouting the same unsubtantiated crap over and over?  It really makes you all look stupid.  I'm beginning to wonder if the left has any original thoughts.  You all sound like clones of each other.  EVERY milestone for Iraq has been met thus far.  We turned sovereignty over to the Iraqi's and they've had elections.  They are re-building infrastructure at an alarming rate....Iraq is a success.  The loser John Kerry put out a letter today stating that we needed to have definite goals in Iraq.  Everytime John Kerry said we couldn't accomplish something in Iraq we did!!  John Kerry doesn't know when to shut up and realize "he lost", but obviously thinks he's a contender for 2008...I almost feel sorry for the guy...almost.


Sure there are insurgents, but the damage they ar inflicting is minimal....and yes, there are Iraqi's who LOVE Americans, believe it or not.   I live near a military base, and several soliders have told me how the Iraqi people cry when they leave.  


You can believe all the crap the media is telling you, but your precious Downing Street Memo is not evidence of anything.  Bush has not been proven to lie, period. You can say it all you want, but it doesn't make it true.   The little fairy tales the left make up about Bush and then get their buddies in the media to echo are just that "fairy tales."  




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    That is about as selfish a statement I've heard as of late.


    What if the soldiers had gotten *so tired* in World War I or II?


    What if the revoluntary soldiers had gotten *so tired* in the Revoluntionary war?  


    Your world would be different today, that is, if you would have existed at all.


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    Bush's lies and people died for NO cause, NO reason!
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    Yes, he died
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    Father died at age 70 nm
    nm
    It died once before, remember? And the once
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    how dare you say that anyone died for no...
    reason!!!? Saddam was a terrible mass murderer and needed to be taken care of. We should have never let it get this far. I am sure that the men and women who died did not think that it was for no reason.
    And I am right there with you, my Mom is 90, my dad died last year, my mom........sm
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    my grandmother until my grandfather died because...

    My grandmother said they did not agree on politics and she would never vote for the same person he did, so therefore her vote would cancel his out and she felt like that was wrong because he was the head of the household!!!  Can you believe - as soon as he died, she never missed voting again for who she wanted.


    I'm a died-in-the-wool feminist, and have -
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    In Obama, I see HOPE for middle class America.

    In McCain,I see NO HOPE for us at all.
    I knew an MT who did just that - died at her desk.
    !
    I think his dad died of a heart attack at 70? nm
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    Obama has said his mom who died of ovarian

    cancer greatly influenced his life.  He said she was gentle, kind, and strong.


    Barack's grandmother died
     
    What about the thousands that died in WWII to

    keep us free from the nazi regime/communism? What about the Korean War? They died, too, to keep communism from spreading.


    Viet Nam was another story. They died and people here were so outspoken about it (just like it is happening now), and  that it brought the moral of the tropps down. When our president pulled them out so quick, all he-- broke out. The Viet Cong and Cambodia armies slaughtered thousands.


    Those fighting now mostly support and believe in what they are doing. If the troops are pulled out as quick as O wants, the same thing may happen there. This is why they are trying to get Iraq's military and police set up so another Viet Nam will not happen. Support our troops.


     


    Stating our servicemen died for nothing.....
    is misinterpreted. No one wants to lose one single troop. The war is senseless and our troops have to believe in what they are doing in order to survive. But, most could claim all wars are senseless. No, I did not know people were protesting our service people (the war, YES, but not our actual service members - head in the sand on that point). Ignorance, if they understood anything at all, they would understand that our troops are doing their jobs by following orders.
    Marine in Fahrenheit 9/11 has died in Iraq...sm
    May he rest in peace.


    DETROIT - A Marine and one-time recruiter who appeared in Michael Moore's documentary film Fahrenheit 9/11 has died in a roadside bombing in Iraq.

    Staff Sgt. Raymond J. Plouhar, 30, died Monday of wounds suffered while conducting combat operations in Iraq's volatile Anbar province, the Defense Department said Tuesday.

    Plouhar, who was stationed at Camp Pendleton, Calif., had taken four years off from active duty to serve as a recruiter in Flint after donating one of his kidneys to his uncle. He is seen in the 2004 film approaching prospective recruits in a mall parking lot.

    It's better to get them when they're in ones and twos and work on them that way, he says in the film.

    Although Plouhar willingly appeared in the movie, which is critical of the Bush administration's actions after Sept. 11, his father said Plouhar didn't realize it would criticize the war.

    I'm proud that my son wanted to protect the freedom of this country whether we all agree with the war or not, he said.

    Plouhar grew up in Lake Orion, about 30 miles north of Detroit.

    He is survived by a wife and two children, ages 5 and 9. They live in Arizona.
    Yep....the rights that the military have fought and died for...
    over the years. You know, the might want to say thank you once nin awhile for that too...but that would take common courtesy. Too much to expect I guess. Take, take, take, but never say thank you for those who sacrificed for what is being taken...and taken...and taken FOR GRANTED.
    "Who died and made you boss?"

    OMG!!  Toooooooooo funny! 


    When you described the various religious beliefs of your family members, you illustrated very well why government and religion don't mix.


    Whether I (or you) agree with their views, they still have the right to have those views. 


    Rick James died in 2004
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    Reaping the rewards.


    Mexico has universal health...how many have died
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    If you don't agree with our consitutional right to freedom of speech, then you need to rethink your priorities. Nobody will ever agree with anybody else 100% on this board and in real life, and I wouldn't expect them to. That is what makes our world go around.

    Don't like the posts?? Don't read or go to another board. I agree with Sam.
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    All men would lie - when, in fact, it was nobody's freakin' business........that was Hillary's problem
    My dad died of lung ca. from 2nd-hand smoke. I hope
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    My mom died of obesity-related diabetes. I hope we tax food out of
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    Bush lied and our brave patriotic soldiers died..PERIOD
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    Ovarian cancer. McCain's father died of a heart attach...sm
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    So then you only like to where people who say what you believe have to say.

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    Now shoo, run along home now back to your hole or cave or whatever you crawled out of.
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    100 people
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    Why are we still bring up Rev. Wright?  Can't we just move past that?  We've heard it all. 


    Sorry, people....
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    Why are people so

    focused on outward appearances?  It is a person's heart that shows true beauty......not their face.  A face can change over time, but a pure heart remains and that is what is important.


    Are these the same people
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    some people say

    is the line Hannity uses to introduce such wild statements without accepting responsibility for stating them.  The post says the GROUP endosed McCain -- did not libel McCain.  Simply an example of how people are willing to run with any statement that supports their beliefs against a candidate.


     


    God is in the People

    Slice and dice in the womb - 2.1 million babies murdered.....fanatical ravings indeed


    Who are these VERY BAD people....
    I'm not coming up with anything when I Google the internets..........
    545 people

    I'm cutting and pasting from an email my friend sent me.  Thought it was interesting enough to post here.  I really hope the spacing is okay.  The title of the email was "how to become a former columnist"


    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the  Orlando Sentinel newspaper.
                                           
     
    545 PEOPLE
      By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget.  The president does.


    You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.

    The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, nine Supreme Court justices = 545 human beings out of the 300 million who are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.   In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
    They have no legal authority.   They have no authority to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.   I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.   The politician has the power to accept or reject it.   No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault.   They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.   No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.   The president can only propose a budget.   He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, (supposedly) the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving
    appropriations and taxes.   Who is the speaker of the House?   She or he is the leader of the majority party.   She or he and fellow House members, not the
    president, can approve any budget they want.   If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and
    irresponsibility.   I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.   When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

    If the Marines are in  IRAQ , it's because they want them in  IRAQ .

    If they do not receive Social Security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's be cause they want it that way.
    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they
    can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.   Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses,  provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.


    it's not about the people who can't
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