Talk about ignorance....Chris Dodd, Barney Frank....
Posted By: sam on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: The pubs didn't cripple the economy? - sm
Fannie Mae...ring any bells? The housing crash is what started this downhill spiral. Talk about snorting Kool-aid...you must have an IV. O starts talking, brain stops working.
The war has cost us plenty...as did 9-11. But the economy didn't go south until the fannie/freddie debacle which started the dominos on wall street falling because of the "bad paper." So you can rant and rave all you want to about the war...your duly elected Dems in Congress screwed us ALL over. But go ahead, blame Bush...this is all on YOU folks. YOU voted them in. I had nothing to do with it...lol. I believe it is called stewing in your own juices...even if you are so in denial you don't realize it...but oh well...no surprise. :)
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wrong...barney frank, chris dodd, and the
Dem members of the Banking and Finance Committee are wholly responsible. John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2006 and described this exact scenario, as did Allen Greenspan and John Snow (treasury secretary). The Dems killed it in committee. Voted to a man against it. And here we are. Nice try...no cigar (no pun intended). This is one that you can't lay on the Republicans. The facts do not support you on this one. No matter how much you deny it. And deny it you will. You can't help yourself.
Fannie and Freddie....Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...
you left them off your list. The two MAJOR players. Who got the most donations from fannie/freddie? Barack Obama and Chris Dodd. Obama got more from them in his 3 years than other senators did in 20. You do the math and follow the money.
Know that. That's my name for Barney Frank.
Kinda fitting, I think.
Barney Frank is a big culprit in this...
however, it is the HOMEOWNERS responsibility to READ YOUR CONTRACT. Geesh people, the lenders did loan to those they knew couldn't pay, but the people who bought a $300,000 home making $50,000 cannot be excused, they too bear responsibility. Anyone facing foreclosure now who gets bailed out should never be allowed to own another home without 20% or more CASH downpayment. We make our mortgage payment on time every month, add extra to the principal, have never been late, have never taken out a HELOC or a second mortgage and yet we are expected to help those out who probably shouldn't have bought a home in the first place.
Barney Frank (D) is the one who several years ago pushed the mortgage lenders to lend to EVERYONE so all could have homes. Read the Boston Globe Op-Ed piece by Jeff Jacoby for a good explanation.
What does anything Barney Frank said have to do with Obama? nm
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It's Barney Frank's fault??!!??!!
Thanks for the laugh!
Thanks to Barney Frank and his snivling
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Barney Frank is a nut! He would also not listen re
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More on Barney Frank and fannie/freddie...
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Barney Frank is to blame for the economic
BUT, Barney Frank is to blame for the corrupt government interference in mortgages and forcing banks to loan to people who by no means had any business trying to buy a home!!
Barney Frank has been in Congress since 1981. He has been the head of the Financial Services Committee and has been in charge of pushing all these government regulations onto banks.....
LETS CALL IT LIKE IT IS!!! He's a corrupt SOB and he needs to be kicked out of there! And now he dares to come across suddenly acting as if he is doing EVERYTHING he can to get the banking business flowing again! BULL! He's got them just where he wants them, indebted to the government. WHat happens next? Government run banks....... socialism......governments lending YOU, the citizen, monies, owning you, your family, and everything else in your life.......you need to do YOUR HOMEWORK!
Barney Frank in prison, is that that what you'd call
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Barney Frank.....what planet did he fall off
Barney Frank wants less govt and state rights when it comes to drugs.... but he wants "regulation" and "more enforcement" when it comes to everything else that takes away MY rights...... what a joke!
Caught an ad-Barney Frank is going to be on O'Reilley
tonight or Thursday night? I think BF is a glutton for punishment. I hope, but doubt, BF will answer some questions instead of blowing smoke again.
Chris Dodd
"People are angry about bailouts, but would be more upset if the big 3 go under."
I hope they put his info on the news. I just can't type fast enough to cover it and don't want to put words in his mouth. The hearing was 6 hours long! Whew!
What I got from most of it was that GM and Ford have unsecured debt while Chrysler has secured debt and that the Chrysler CEO would step down if that would help his company. Wagoner (GM) and Gettlefinger are working together and GM keeps defending the UAW.
"Bankruptcy is the wrong approach," Dodd says. "There is concensus that inaction is not an option and the concensus is that we are not going to write a check without stipulations. My sense is that I have a working situation here and I'm going to get it done.... I need the federal reserve and the treasury to step up."
On the other bailouts, "I am through giving them money. I still have 9.000 people a day losing their homes and they (I think he's talking about Paulson) still haven't done anything about it."
More on Barney Frank...he is SO dirty in this economic mess....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
Chris Dodd is going to be on CNBC
in a couple minutes with a press conference. Don't know what it's all about. Just caught the end of the announcement.
Murtha, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Al Franken!, ughh!.
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I just heard that Chris Dodd also wants to attach...
a proviso for some money to be given to certain groups...ACORN being one of them. What is up with that?? ACORN is being sued right and left for voter fraud.
The rationale for reducing the capital gains tax (for a short term, not permanently) is so that investors will be stimulated to invest again, and infuse some of THAT money back into the markets that will perhaps take at least SOME of that off ALL of us. I don't have a problem at all with a temporary reduction or even suspension of capital gains tax for a couple of months if it will reduce how much we are all on the hook for. Just my opinion.
and who is #2 on the receiving end of Chris Dodd and his cronies???? OBAMARAMA, that's who. sm
You can't call out one and not the other. If anything, they are BOTH guilty.
And who is #2 on the receiving end of Chris Dodd and his cronies???? OBAMARAMA, that's who. sm
You can't out one and not the other. They probably BOTH are guilty, but accuse them both, not just McCain.
Listening to Harry Reid/Chris Dodd news conference...
I don't know how they can stand up there and lie through their teeth like that...blaming the White House and Republicans for this financial debacle. They know that is a lie. They know, especially Chris Dodd, was central to this. Also mentioned Barney Frank. Good grief. The hypocrisy is staggering. They should be talking about getting us out of this mess....just yesterday they were saying don't play the blame game. Telling McCain not to politicize it while they are politicizing it. That man makes my skin crawl.
And saying there was a "deal" and McCain blew it up. The only "deal" was among senators...the only house person present could not negotiate. He just had to listen. If they had the plan and had gone to the house with it, then the house would have blocked it there and hours if not days would have been wasted. Amazing the gall of some folks. Ridiculous!!!
Why can't they all stop the political posturing and just fix this mess. The House is only reacting to the onslaught of emails from their constituents saying protect us here, we don't like this carte blanche 700 billion. I for one am GLAD at least the Republicans in the house said whoa wait just a minute here.
Wouldn't say ignorance is bliss. Ignorance
is the reason why we had Bush for 8 years, and ignorance is why people will vote PalinMc.
Oh...and I believe everything Dodd says. LOL
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I heard it was Dodd who
slipped that in as well. Not a big shock since he was the highest recipient of contributions from AIG. He slipped that in and things were passed so fast that no one could catch it and now everyone is crying outrage. I'm sure Obama is glad this was snuck in so he could repay AIG back for his second highest contributions...right under Dodd. Jerks!
They should have let AIG fall. I'm so sick and tired of bailing out companies. We need to start letting them file bankruptcy and restructure. Maybe then....they will start handling their money better. While government keeps bailing them out, they aren't going to change their ways. They are just going to keep asking for government handouts while the big execs get rich.
Dodd claims he did not put that in there -
at least, I read that he said the date he had included was changed so that those bonuses would still be paid. He said his date would not have allowed those bonuses to be paid. ???
Dodd retracting
Now Dodd is saying he did put it in there but Treasury "made" him...we gotta get this guy out of here...
Disagree. Ignorance is ignorance. n/m
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Crap. Dodd is staying on?
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Frank/O'Reilly
I was cheering that Bill is BACK! I've been fit to be tied over his lingering lethargy for the last period of months, and have written to complain, too.
There's a lot more on the web about Barney Frank and how filthy he is (in more ways than 1) this whole thing. He should've been put in jail along with Chris Dodd and Palsen, etc. Barney Frank's former lover worked for this outfit before they split many years ago. I've read so much on it that I don't recall which place I read it, but obviously you won't find any of this investigative stuff on the driveby channels. Even FNC doesn't put some stuff out there, which ticks me off. But I find it, anyway between the conservative blogs, sites, talk radio, etc. And these sources can be easily checked, so the libs can throw all the hissy fits they want. If they honestly think it's okay to give literally ANY party a free pass just b/c it has your letter or preference behind it, that's just nuts! I'm dying to clean out the RINOs in "my" party. They don't belong there.
Why should Obama apologize for Franks or Dodd? He is not...sm
their keeper. John Glenn and John McCain did not receive a formal reprimand but were judged to have "poor judgement" with their naive support quashing an investigation of the doings of Charles Keating in the 1980's whose financial doings eventually caused the savings and loan crisis just 2 years later. $180 billion that time, probably more with inflation than now. Bill Clinton dug us out of that hole, and here we are again.
Uh Barney Fife was on Mayberry RFD
Are you speaking of Barney Frank? The Congressman from Massachussetts?
Just because it has been going on by both parties does not make it okay.
Oh, I agree completely.....just mentioning Barney
None of them should be "fixing" anything....they created the mess and I sure as heck don't trust them to fix it. Since when has the government fixed anything?
There should be outside auditors come in, chosen by private citizens, NOT the government, not the politicians' friends or family members, but private CPAs to oversee this.
The government should not be taking any of our money. I say let the chips fall where they may and all this fear Bush and everyone else tries to place in the minds of the people is just that....talk. Give it a year or so and it will right itself automatically and purge itself of the crooks.
If you think for a minute the world economy will fall because of it, that's the fear they're hoping to put in your head to make you think this is the only choice left OR ELSE!!
Other countries have firm good banks and will continue their business as usual, as will solid banks in this country.
My gosh, just today the Bank of Scotland is now putting out ads for your banking needs. It's an investment opportunity for many.
Wonderful. Bernanke, Pelosi, and now Barney Fife want
another stimulus package. "Stimulus should exceed 1% of the GDP."
He also says banks should be encouraged to write down mortgages. As for the $700B package, they got a terrible job loss number the same day and that it should soon start working. This fund would start buying into the banks soon. He was very upset that the first $250B was given away and $125B went into buying large banks and $125B went into buying into small banks.
Keynesianism??? What's that? Sounds like a new language to me. It's one of the words he uses.
I certainly don't think there should be another stimulus package. The first one didn't work. How can the second one be any better?
If you go there, please include Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama, McCain....the list goes
You can't be selective. If you insist on putting blame for the current situation our country is in, you must put the blame on each and every person that was a part of it.
To a great extent, it is Frank's fault, previous poster correct.
Barney Frank and the rest of the democrats in charge of Congress now, will be laughing at you, too....at all of us.
Chris was excellent
pinned him to the wall like a bug (no offense to bugs out there). Intersting also that he mentioned McCain's former policy chief (or something) Tori Clark wrote a book with the name. I love to see the hyocrites squirm. it sends a thrill up my leg.
Chris is on the way to a meltdown
Not only was he rude but he's getting worse and worse as the democrats ratings keep dropping. Talk about a pit bull (without lipstick). He's attacking his guests not giving them a chance to answer the questions. That's not "pinning someone to the wall like a bug". That's just rude. He should ask the guest a question, let him answer, and then respond to his answer. To badger and not let your guest answer a question you ask while giving free reighn (sp?) to the democratic guest is just pure horse hockey. After today I no longer watch his show. I want some truth and clear cut answers and I believe every guest should be allowed to answer a question in full without the host bullying him (which by the way I do not believe Obama called Sarah a pig). Still is no excuse for Mathews to act like that. He's supposed to be a host and treat both sides fairly. That he does not do. He did this to other guests and luckily they said to him let me answer your question. MSNBCs ratings are going down the tube and they just lost one more viewer.
better than Chris Matthews with a...
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I liked Chris Rock's
take - reelection. He said Obama would surely win because what Kenyan ever lost a race?
Chris Mathews
to run for office? Old rumor, but if true I am delighted. We are once again attracting decent, intelligent individuals with true patriotism for government service. Obama's positive impact on our nation just keeps going and going . . .
why is Chris Mathews
labeled combative. He has an opinion show. When he asks a question and the guest regurgitates a talking point or avoids answering the question, Mathews holds his/her feet to the fire. Remember what the press is for? Finding the truth?
Chris Matthews is a liberal. sm
Ronald Reagan was in the service. So what if he wasn't in combat. He enlisted during wartime. I commend him for that. You might want to look at the ages of the people you are talking about, as well. Some of them, MANY of them, were of service age in non wartime. Bob Dole was horribly wounded in WW II. He's not on the list. You only put the Democrats who served and the Republicans who didn't. Why did you do that? You are right. It is of no significance. By your reasoning, only those who have had an abortion could have an opinon about it. Ridiculous.
Chris Wallace works for
Fox News which is a republican propaganda outlet. An actual journalist was chosen. The Fox get it turn next week which only zealots will watch.
Chris Mathews says debate
can use empty chair if McCain does not show.
I liked Chris Rock's take on the Clintons...sm
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9sT0KgGR-uM
Chris Matthews had a great way of
breaking it down, they could have bought and paid cash for Joe's house and had $23,500 left. Can you imagine? I wonder how many of Joe's houses the Dems could have bought with the money Obama raised over the amount he originally agreed to accept from public funding. That is, before he decided he needed to spend 7 times as much money as the pubs and put make him be the candidate to spend the most money in history on a presidential campaign? I wonder what all that money is being spent on. And, believe it or not, all of it just averaging $86 donations!
Chris Mathews from MSNBC said
it was a country. Funny they didn't jump down him for that. Then come to find out Gov. Palin never said it.
I would not doubt for a minute that the person putting out the rumors and cut downs of Gov. Palin is no other than John McCain. Would not put it past him.
Also, people forget she didn't ask for this. The GOP went to her and asked her to be the running mate. She's proven herself time and time again she is the person who really excited the party. When McCain failed she would bring the party back up, then they dump on her and treat her like this.
Shameful I say.
Chris isn't running for office...LOL
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chris coumo up next on hannity am
talk show.
Chris was so tasteless and had the nerve to say he was trying to have dialouge...nm
I think the NYT has the right to publish any information that they can verify. If it is classified information that should not have been known to the public, the question is who leaked it?
I've heard the jist of the story but I need to read the NYT article.
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