Stimulus checks
Posted By: Arizona Native on 2008-10-26
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How many of you enjoyed your Stimulus Checks? I for one loved mine. Think back to what you did with that check? Maybe you paid some bills, bought that CD you have been wanting, maybe a night out with your family to a nice restaurant or even Pizza Hut. A lot of us were able to buy new clothes for our children.
Admit it, it was worth going to the mailbox for. I looked forward to the mail for once.
Senator Obama has pushed for more Stimulus checks immediately for the American people. But who do you think veto'd it? President Bush did. Senator McCain has sided with President Bush 90% of the time. Believe me, you won't be going to the mailbox to find anymore Stimulus Checks in there if you elect John McCain on November 4, 2008.
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Stimulus checks
I'm ill, have no health insurance, and if we get another stimulus check, I'll be able to go see the doctor again. (I've been there twice: When I received my income tax refund and when I received the first stimulus check.)
The doctor is pretty far away, and I need to rent a car (with a $250.00 deposit) since my daughter's car is very old and probably wouldn't make the trip. (My car was repossessed when I couldn't afford the payments any more due to being in the hospital so often.)
I hope we get another stimulus check so I can see the cystic fibrosis specialist again. In the meantime, I'm fortunate to have found a good doctor for low-income people in my town. 
the problem is that the stimulus checks are not...
"compliments of Obama." He is not footing the bill. The tax payers are, one way or another. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Those were economic stimulus checks...a one-time deal.
what Obama is proposing is NOT a one-time deal. It will be part of the tax code. BIG difference.
Feds paying $millions in stimulus checks
Next time you make some colossal blunder at work, here's your excuse: "I was rushed". Apparently, that's good enough for the feds, who have sent around 10,000 checks to dead people...some of whom were never even in the Social Security system. Wonder where they're getting the names?
Of course, we knew that the fraud, abuse and waste would be gargantuan since the government has never been able to handle our money without fraud, waste and abuse.
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/your_money/consumer/090514_Dead_People_Get_Stimulus_Checks
Sorry - not everybody got those checks -
You had to make a certain income to qualify for that rebate - I know because my boyfriend who is on workman's cmopensation could not qualify for it because his income for the year was too low.
If you did not make enough to have to file tax returns, you did not get the rebate.
There have to be checks and balances with everything though.
Otherwise you will have corruption, no matter how good the intent of the law is.
Identity checks?
How do we know who these "individual contributors from the internet" really were? Is there a way to positively determine their true identities? Sounds like we need to know about this. I would really like to know if it is possible to confirm their true identities and where this cash is coming from.
Rebate checks
I'm sure Bush has given us a bunch of ideas on what to "spend" the rebate on. I'm sure he would like more people to use if for gas (he is an "oil" man after all). I'm using mine to help pay down some of my debt. I told DH, why in the world aren't people on TV suggesting that citizens use the money to help pay off their debt, or put in a savings for the future. All I keep hearing over and over is spend, spend, spend. I told him I'm tired of whenever I get some extra cash in (whether from working OT, a b-day gift from a relative, or something like the rebate) it gets spent. Yes I know that to stimulate the economy you need to spend, but when is enough enough. I know of course there are certain things people need, but needing something is a lot different than wanting something and just buying something for the sake of spending. I read somewhere once that if you spend it on gas it goes to the government/oil companies, if you spend it at Wal-Mart and other stores it goes to China, etc. Unfortunately the way the economy is going right now it will help a lot of people with gas and food (2 necessities people can't do without), but is just sad that people will use it for that and then it will be gone. As a side rant....does anyone get as furious as I do at these Visa companies that advertise spend, spend, spend. The ones in particular is all these people charging a cup of coffee or some breakfast item on their charge card, then comes along a person with a check or cash and the music stops and they all look at him/her like they've spoiled all the fun. I really think these credit card companies are getting out of hand when they are constantly bombarding us with commercials to spend (I am faster with the mute button than you can say jack rabbit).
Recheck on the fact checks
This whole dog and pony show was going on in 2000 and 2004 too. Righteous anger! God doesn't approve of you! I hate a hypocrite! Commie!! World is going to end if Democrat wins! No seriously, you will be cowering in your bathtub with your last shotgun shell!
The FACT is, people are sick of this kind of hysteria. That's why Obama is so popular. After all, the end-of-world crew is not only downright nasty and scary, look what the people they support have done.
They still want to harp on Clinton, ignoring the horrible truth of just how many Republican congresscritters were arrested and jailed, indicted and censored for totally deplorable, and in many instances, depraved behavior during the Bush administration. They ignore our heartbreaking loss of American rights, and lives during this last 8 years. They ignore the financial meltdown and the outright theft of our social security fund, and now another 840 billion for the thieves, and how many trillions can the Pentagon under Bush just not find? Totally ignore it. They continue to harp on a "liberal press" -- bwa ha ha ha! The news they love to hate admits it gets it marching orders in the morning from the White House. And now, the scariest, worst human being ever, the Ayers monster, is actually famous for blowing up a urinal in the basement of the Capitol Building. Oh. My. God.
Now what - you're willing to put a woman who has NO experience a hair's breadth away from the Presidency? The one the Kenyan witchdoctor laid on hands to advance the agenda of the Third Wave, a religious group who feels they are the ones approved by God to take over America and impose its peculiar notion of Bible believing on all of us? And her husband, who is a charter member of a group in Alaska which unabashedly states it HATES America now and wants to secede? These people are now, they are real, and they are want to be your leaders.
Only by making up the most outlandish lies and propaganda (and crossing fingers that the "liberal press" doesn't blow the cover on their candidates' backgrounds too soon)can they even hope to smear "that one" sufficiently to sway the election.
The real decider for everyone of good faith, decent morals, and some kind of feeling for their fellow human beings, should be to simply look at how some people supporting the McC/SP ticket behave. Monkey dolls. Teaching children to shout the "n" word and jump and hoot like monkeys while the news camera watches, and God-fearing grandmother giggles. No, not just a few. Every single one in line. And then the fruitcake carving on her own cheek with a knife, claiming a big scary black man for Obama did it. Oh yeah, field rep for Republican National Committee, and the story grabbed and pushed immediately by McC's PA communications director. It's disgusting. And considering what they did to all of us in 2000 and 2004, are we really ready to believe there is any good judgment going on in what's left of the Republican ranks?
Just take a look at one of the Obama rallies and get a sense of the totally different atmosphere there, and ask yourself what kind of attitude you'd rather live with day in and day out. We already know what hatefulness, deception, and too much God-told-me-to-do-it in government can do to us and the world. Time to give it a rest, already. Anger, bile, threats, fantasies, foot-stomping, race-baiting, and rewriting the dictionary and the Bible isn't what this American wants. IMHO no American should want that.
Sam, I hate to tell you, but those checks already go out every year -
my sister does not pay a penny in income tax ever - they don't even hold anything out of her check during the year - and then she still gets $5000 to $6000 a year back from the government. So how do you think this is something new?
I hope the next time he checks the tax
in office. LOL.
I hope the next time he checks the tax
in office. LOL. Hopefully he will finally get the clue as this makes the third one having tax issues.
You don't need parties for checks and balances
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Thanks Lurker...and I agree with you about checks and balances...nm
Well, I think it is worse to mail tax break checks to
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Total gimmick! Remember getting checks from
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People with felonies cannot pass background checks...sm
Even a pending felony, never mind a conviction. So,how does he have a job? I say we give him the boot.
trash or treasure? gotta have checks and balances......
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I suggest you take a civics class. This country has checks and balances. SM
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stimulus
Where did you get that info from?
Stimulus
The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that eliminating the waiver requirement (which is what Pelosi et AL are talking about) would save $400 million dollars over 10 years. The stimulus package contains short-term and long-term stimuli.
Here's a link, but it wasn't working last time I tried it. It's a pdf so you'll need Adobe Acrobat to read it.
http://change.gov/open_government/yourseatatthetable/2008121
If you Google "CBO stimulus package family planning waiver" you'll find new articles with references to those same figures found in the CBO report.
The stimulus was this big because it has to be BIG.
The reason it has to be BIG is because there are a lot of things that need MONEY!!! It needs to be big to get back on track, and if this doesn't work, your grandchildren will be eating dirt, everything is just that BAD!!! HE HAS TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY!!! That's the predicament we're in because of the last 8 years. Taxes cut for the rich with 2B going to Iraq every week, we're still paying Iraqis to not shoot us at $250 a week per family, 700B a year for oil, and nothing for us. So goes the Bush agenda which did very well for the rich, but not for you nor me, now we PAY! You can't fight wars, deregulate the banks, cut taxes, etc., and expect it not to bite you in the a@@, and that's where America is now, broke and beaten to a pulp. The gift Bin Laden never thought he'd receive.
stimulus package
Has anyone heard anything about the stimulus stating that if you're white, do not apply?
Stimulus Package
I've read a lot about it on line and decided to get the info from the government itself.
Division B is where the so-called stimulus for us is located. A whole 5 pages or so. The rest is for millions and billions to go to:
Agricultural Research Services, buildings and facilities
Farm Bureau Salaries and Expenses
Natural Conservation Sevices Watershed and flood prevention operations, watershed rehab, fisheries
Rural Development Programs, rural housing services, utilities including distance learning, telemedicine,and broadband program
Bonneville Power Administration
Appropriations Transfer Authority: Department of Energy for `Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy', `Electricity Delivery and Energy Reliability', and `Advanced Battery Loan Guarantee Program'
Financial Services: GSA, federal building fund,energy efficient government motor vehicle fleet procurement
Then we come to small businesses. Economic Stimulus LENDING for small businesses.
Shall I keep going or does everybody get the jist of this so-called stimulus package?
Stimulus package, etc.
I absolutely agree with you. You are 150% right.
So, In Obama's stimulus there is anything about
Just great. Is that why now Government is taking over the car companies now?
The programs in the stimulus...nm
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This is about LAST YEAR'S stimulus
Now this makes sense.
Yes, let's all blame W's stimulus
STIMULUS STORY
It is the month of August, on the shores of the Black Sea . It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted. It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town. He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.
The hotel proprietor takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the butcher. The Butcher takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the pig grower.
The pig grower takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.
The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute that in these hard times, gave her “services” on credit.
The hooke*r runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 Euro note to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.
The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 Euro note back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything.
At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 Euro note, after saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.
No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism….
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government is doing business today.
And if that doesn’t scare the ____ out of you then you are brain dead!
The new stimulus payment idea
Have you seen the new stimulus payment idea, 150 billion dollars??? Do you know I looked up and it there is an estimated 304,000,000 (304 million) people in the US. 150 Billion dollar plan? Give us ALL 1 million dollars and it would make sense to me!
Boooo... stimulus package
Is anyone else not happy about this stimulus package? 
McCain won't vote for stimulus as it
Sen. John McCain, Obama's opponent in the November presidential contest, said he did not believe the stimulus package did enough to create jobs.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28840572/
Stimulus Package breakdown
I know some of you don't like Glen Beck, but he has broken it down by the numbers and provides links so you can check the facts yourself. It sounds okay until you get to the heading: "When is the money going to be spent, and on what?"
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20639/
What! The current stimulus plan
I heard about Hollywood wanting money and I did not believe it, but furniture? You gotta be kidding me! Can I have a new couch too and a new desk for my computer?
The GOP want to get rid of:
Meanwhile, House Republican leaders put out a list of more than 30 "wasteful" provisions in the Senate version of the stimulus, including:
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion pictures
• $650 million for the digital television (DTV) converter box coupon program
• $248 million for furniture at the new Department of Homeland Security headquarters
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census
Maybe their payment of taxes is all the stimulus...
$$ we need? Makes one wonder, doesn't it????
Stimulus versus tax cuts
Stimulus means SPENDING
Non-refundable tax rebates means every $1.00 spent creates $1.02 in economic activity. 2 freaking cents (makes sense to the pubs.....I guess)
Infrastructure - every dollar spent equals $1.59 in economic activity (bridges, roads, etc.)
Food stamps (which the pubs want to cut out of the bill) - every dollar spent equals $1.73 in economic activity. This is the single most productive stimulus we have. Food stamps will get SPENT, unlike tax rebates.
If the pubs have their way, the bill will be 42% tax cuts which will not benefit job creation or improve the economy. They want to fail. Why? And you all call your senators to support this? If it gets pushed through like this, you have only yourselves to blame when everything goes to helll. You can't blame Obama for this cluster.
Yeah, the junk in that stimulus is really
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Stimulus package -- what the pubs want..(sm)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=pete%20sessions%20taliban&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
Disagree. This WASTEFUL stimulus is likely
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Stimulus package could be hazardous to your
health. Take a look at this little hidden jewel.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
Stimulus is 'anti-religious'
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee warned supporters Tuesday that the $828 billion stimulus package is “anti-religious.”
In an e-mail that was also posted on his blog ahead of the Senate’s passage, Huckabee wrote: “The dust is settling on the ‘bipartisan’ stimulus bill and one thing is clear: It is anti-religious.”
The former Republican presidential candidate pointed to a provision in both the House and Senate versions banning higher education funds in the bill from being used on a “school or department of divinity.”
“You would think the ACLU drafted this bill,” Huckabee said. “For all of the talk about bipartisanship, this Congress is blatantly liberal.”
“Emily’s List, radical environmental groups, etc. all have a seat at the decision making table in Washington these days,” he continued. “Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are in charge and they are working with an equally ‘progressive’ President Obama (remember his voting record is more liberal than Ted Kennedy!).”
In the e-mail, Huckabee concedes that there is little that conservatives can do in the near term, but advocated mobilization to defeat those “masquerading as ‘conservative Democrats.’”
“This is the opening round of the Democrats’ campaign for big government,” he wrote. “We cannot afford to sit round one out, because if we do, they will only become more emboldened and their grab for power more audacious and damaging to our country and our freedoms.”
I used the last economic stimulus check
It was costing me about $25 in quarters every time I went to the laudromat. Not to mention gasoline and time spent not typing. I used the $600 to buy myself a portable washing machine (attaches to sink in kitchen when in use) and a portable drier. They use very little electricity. Washer uses very little water (good thing, now that we're in a major drought), and only a teaspoon of detergent per load. So it's nice to no longer have to pay at the pump and at the 'mat!
Lots of ways to cut down costs and giving our money to the government in taxes. I now pay all my bills online. Costs me nothing. Saves me a stamp (the price of which is going up AGAIN this spring), and the use of a check that i had to pay to have printed.
If they want to send me another $400, I'm sure not gonna complain. As a single renter with no kids, I have ZERO tax breaks. Last year, the I overpaid and Calif. OWED me $300. Then they very conveniently 're-figured' my taxes, and sent me a letter saying I actually made LESS MONEY than I had put on my return, and by their calculations, they didn't owe me anything. (???) If I made less money, but still overpaid the same amount in taxes, shouldn't they owe me MORE? Needless to say, if I owe them this year, they might just be getting a $300 IOU. They can spend their bailout money collecting it from me.
So agree with you. It is a spending stimulus.
No social security, nothing for the future but debt. I bet a country will be ready to buy us soon. Probably China, Iran, and Russia just waiting to buy us and take over. Shoot, probably it is in the stimulus bill because NOT ONE PERSON HAS HAD TIME TO READ IT AND GOVERNMENT PASSED IT. HOW STUPID!!!!!!!!
Another CNN reporter says stimulus a sorry spectacle.
Commentary: Stimulus bill a sorry spectacle
* Story Highlights
* Jack Cafferty: 1,073-page bill was passed before Congress could read it
* He says Congress violated pledge to make it public 48 hours before vote
* Cafferty: Some provisions enable leaders to grab pork for their districts
* He says the tax cuts in the bill may be too small to get the economy moving
By Jack Cafferty
CNN
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Editor's Note: Jack Cafferty is the author of a new book, "Now or Never: Getting Down to the Business of Saving Our American Dream," to be published in March. He provides commentary on CNN's "The Situation Room" daily from 4 to 7 p.m. You can also visit Jack's Cafferty File blog.
Jack Cafferty
Jack Cafferty says the House violated a pledge to make stimulus bill public 48 hours before vote.
NEW YORK (CNN) -- What a joke. Your Congress has voted to spend almost $790 billion of your money on a stimulus package that not a single member of either chamber has read.
The 1,073-page document wasn't posted on the government's Web site until after 10 p.m. the day before the vote to pass it was taken. I don't care if you're Evelyn Wood, you can't read almost 1,100 pages of the lawyer talk that makes up all legislation in eight or 10 hours.
The criminal part of this boondoggle is divided into two parts. The first is the Democrats promised to post the bill a full 48 hours before the vote was taken to allow members of the public to see what they were getting for their money. Both parties voted unanimously to do this ... and they lied.
It didn't happen. Why am I not surprised? Congress lying to the American people has become part of their job description. They can't be trusted on anything anymore.
I'm sure part of the reason there was no time for the public to read the bill was the 11th-hour internecine warfare between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
When Reid first announced the compromise had been reached, Nancy Pelosi was nowhere to be seen. And it would take an act of God for this egotistical, arrogant woman to miss a photo op where she could take credit for anything. But she wasn't there.
She summoned Reid to her office, where unnamed sources said she blew her top over some provision for schools that she wasn't happy with. Pelosi's snit delayed everything.
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* In Depth: Commentaries
It's really too bad President Obama couldn't figure out a way to jettison these two who are poster children for everything that is wrong in Washington. The Associated Press called the birth of the stimulus bill "sausage making" in the best tradition of Washington politics as usual.
The second part of the crime is the contents of the bill itself. Far from being only about jobs, infrastructure and tax cuts as promised, the stimulus bill stimulates a bunch of other stuff as well. Eight billion dollars for high-speed rail lines, including a proposed line between Las Vegas and Los Angeles. This little bit of second story work wasn't even in the House version of the bill.
It started in the Senate as a $2 billion project, and came out of the conference committee costing a whopping $8 billion. Gee, now who would that benefit? Oh yeah, the Senate majority leader is from Nevada.
Filipino veterans, most of whom don't live in the U.S., will get $200 million in compensation for World War II injuries. And: $2 billion in grants and loans for battery companies, $100 million for small shipyards and a rollback of the alternative minimum tax at a cost of some $70 billion.
The AMT provision is much-needed legislation, but it doesn't belong in the stimulus bill. It forced other things out so Congress could keep to its self-imposed $800 billion cap.
And when it comes to the tax cuts contained in the stimulus bill, experts have determined they will amount to about $13 per week after taxes for the average American. I'm not sure how much stimulation $13 a week buys. It depends on the neighborhood.
The biggest problem of all is the stimulus bill may not be nearly enough. And if the president has to come back asking for more, the next time might not be so easy.
So far, we have an anemic stimulus bill and some sort of vague proposal from the secretary of the Treasury to deal with the banking crisis -- a proposal that landed with a thud last week -- as the two first steps toward solving a financial crisis that is threatening to take down the country.
Obama better step up his game, or it's going to be a short four years in office.
Another CNN reporter says stimulus a sorry spectacle.
The line I find funniest: "He says the tax cuts in the bill may be too small to get the economy moving."
No one in the world thinks tax cuts can get the economy moving (although plenty of pundits get paid to say they do). Removing all taxes on everyone would *still* be too small. Tax cuts are a pointless, ineffective gesture. (And of course, he doesn't say what the little bullet point says he says!)
The line I find correctest: "The biggest problem of all is the stimulus bill may not be nearly enough."
It's too early to say they blew it, but dear god, it looks like they blew it. The one time we really require the congress to blow some massive money...and they get all stingy. Where was all this fiscal responsibility back during the Bush era?
Who wrote the stimulus bill, do you know?...
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Healthcare provision in stimulus package
Apparently this was added in at the last minute by an unknown. I heard bits and pieces about this today in between working, but never really got the whole story. Did anyone get the whole story?
Wondering where the money is coming from for this stimulus?? sm
and then saw this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulp_96DYiqg
Ron Paul on the stimulus bill today sm
"The American people will wake up out of necessity." I sure wish there were more like him looking out for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hlszHekH6I
Obama signs the stimulus in Colorado
around 2:40 ET. Then off to Phoenix for a couple of nights and then to Canada. Sure loves to travel in Air Force One and still on a promotional tour. I bet he sure misses campaigning.
http://www.c-span.org/
Pres. Obama Promotes Stimulus Plan
Today
Pres. Obama signs the Economic Stimulus bill in Denver, Colorado, this afternoon. His promo-
tional tour for the $787 billion plan then takes him to Phoenix, Arizona, where he will stay the night. On Thursday, he travels to Canada, to discuss economic issues with Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
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