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Sorry, thought I was on the C board

Posted By: American Girl on 2005-07-22
In Reply to: Some crazy loon on talk radio today - American Girl

I won't post here again....it was a mistake.  If you want to answer the question or flame me that's fine.  I'm not on my own computer right now, and flipped me back to this board....sorry.




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    thought this was the liberal board
    you know, the stench of all stenches!  you don't have to read anything here, especially if it gugs ya!  Sorry.  But I don't feel about "shrub" the same as you.  So what does that make you?  Better than everybody else?  Okay then you put up with him, but I'm not gonna take his lies, his rude remarks as in "Oh, we didn't find WMDs, did we?" as he laughs at a fund-raising during the time that our troops are dying for him...Put that in your pipe...Them's is facts!
    We were talking this board, I thought....
    I do not remember seeing any posts on this board likening Michelle Obama to Louis Farrakhan...the only posts I have seen link Farrakhan to the church they went to for 20 years. I have seen no posts about the half brother other than one posted by a dem.

    All that being said...and the point that was attempting to be made is that the announcement might have been made in a different way, had the far radical left not hit the internet with that ridiculous story about Bristol having the child and passing it off as her brother. THat was mean, hurtful rumor, and several here posted it and defended it. There have some right fringe stuff about Obama that could have been printed here, but I for one do not carry that kind of ... for lack of a better word...personal rumor not proven crap back to this board. To quote your candidate...I think we are better than that...or maybe...I wish.
    Gee, thought this was the lberal board. Guess not!!

    This is a truly offensive comment:  liberals...they really could care less about the soldiers.  You appear ignorant of any true knowledge of liberal beliefs.


    You state that it is impossible for Muslims to ever live next to a Christian in harmony.  Your ignorance is astounding.  Too astounding to even address as you have obviously never traveled to any major city in the U.S. or in many, many cities of the world.  Hey, we couldn't even keep peace in New Orleans after there was a breakdown of police control. 


    60 Minutes unbiased?  Did I claim anywhere that it was?  Of course it has a bias.  Duh.  Thought I was posting on the liberal board.


    Please, take your trash talk over to your other trash-talking conservatives.  Please!!! 


    gee, I thought conservatives were supposed to post on their own board.....proves all you want sm

    to do is fight with someone.  What possible reason could you have for being over here?  Obviously you are not creating dialogue or trading ideas....the only reason is to start something and then here come the insults.  Guidelines posted when they started these boards were to post on your own board. 


    I do notice that conservatives post more on that board, but instead of discussing opinions and ideas and their reasons for them, all they do is bash the left. 


     


     


    A friend sent me this email today about the stimulus payments. Thought this board could use a laugh.

    Subject: Stimulus Payment Info. 
     
    "This year, taxpayers will receive an Economic Stimulus Payment. This is a very exciting new program that I will explain using the Q and A format: 
     
    Q. What is an Economic Stimulus Payment? 
    A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers. 
     
    Q. Where will the government get this money? 
    A. From taxpayers. 
     
    Q. So the government is giving me back my own money? 
    A. Only a smidgen. 

    Q. What is the purpose of this payment? 
    A. The plan is that you will use the money to purchase a high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy. 
     
    Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China ? 
    A. Shut up. 
     
     
    Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the US economy by spending your stimulus check wisely: 










     



    If you spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China . 
    If you spend it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs. 
    If you purchase a computer it will go to India .  
    If you purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico , Honduras , and  Guatemala (unless you buy organic). 
    If you buy a car it will go to Japan . 
    If you purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan . 
     
    And none of it will help the American economy. 



    We need to keep that money here in America . You can keep the money in America by spending it at yard sales, going to a baseball game, or spend it on prostitutes, beer and wine (domestic ONLY), or tattoos, since those are the only businesses still in the US.

    I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
    I guess I was reaching.
    So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

    some respect?


    You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


    Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


    You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


    That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


    You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


    Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


    You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


    Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


    You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


    In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


    Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


    Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

    Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


    I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


    I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


    Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


    I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


    I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


    I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


    I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


    If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


    Thought this was good so I thought I'd share

    Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'


    By Betsy Newmark
    High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger


    If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.


    “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”


    “It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”


    Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?



    He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?


    Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:


    GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.


    But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


    OBAMA: Right.


    GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.


    OBAMA: Right.


    GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.


    So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?


    OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.


    Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”


    That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.


    But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.


    Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

    Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
    You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

    To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

    Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
    It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

    This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

    The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
    the conservative board is a liberal board now
    you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
    I told you what I thought he thought....
    and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."

    That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.

    It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.

    You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?


    Politics board = political topics. Faith board = religious topics.

    Please keep all religious/faith topics and discussions on the Faith board.  This would involve your beliefs, whether Christian or atheist, etc. 


    The Politics board is strictly for political topics and discussions. 


    Moderator


     


    Ya gotta understand the rules. We have to post on this board only. They can post on any board they

    If you leave our board, I'll leave your board.

    I thought I was alone.

    So refreshing to have someone on this board that can actually think for themselves.  I have such vivid memories of my dad dressing up in his class A's to go to war, and coming into my room crying at 4:00 a.m. in the morning to say goodbye, not knowing if we would ever see one another again.  Thankfully, he did 1 tour in Korea before I was born, two tours in VN, and we lived on an Army base 25 miles from the Berlin wall when I was 6 years old.  If there was ever an american girl, it is me and my brother.  That "american girl" posting on here all the time, if she had to earn her FFFF freedom she would learn to keep her mouth shut.


    Same thought here

    It seems like one of first major priorities would be to ensure fair voting practices.  I'm very worried about the accuracy of computerized voting and possible tampering. 


    I thought you were new here?sm
    People are somewhat like-minded here, but I see distinct posting styles here. I am a conservative (ex-Republican), but I do not post on their board; their ideology does not reflect my beliefs. I have never once been bashed by liberals, even if they do not agree with me.
    Just a thought....
    Before too long the number of Iraq War troop deaths will be as high as the ones here on 9/11.  And all for what?  So sad.
    You know what I thought when I saw it?
    I thought it was posted by someone from the rabid right, so they could come back and respond to their very own post and blame the liberals because people post things like this.  LoL!
    I thought he was
    putting his money where his mouth is. He has donated a large amount of his personal funds to this project, as well as fundraising efforts A lot of celebs just talk, Brad is actually doing something. Why does he have to live in the 9th ward to help.

    I sponsor kids on the Salvation Army Angel Tree. Should I have to live with them to help them?

    Gimme a break!
    Never thought of it this way
    You brought some good thoughts to mind. I definitely agree with you.
    I know it's not very PC, but I'm sure the thought has
    x
    Another Thought

    If Sara Palin came on the scene as an Independent and ran against McCain & Obama, think how that could've changed things! 


    As a conservative, I'm thrilled to see someone who knows how to play ball with the big boys.  Funny how the feminists want all this equal rights stuff, then shoot this lady down before they really know anything about her.


    I wonder how upset Hillary's supporters are over this.  Time will tell, not just polls.


    It should be interesting what history reveals in the end.  Either way, this race will go down in the books as a first.  That in itself is interesting.


    Okay, that's what I thought lol

    Two late nights in a row for me...thank GOD it's Friday! :)



    I thought so............
    x
    Just a thought about this.

    Since I only heard a snippet of this so far, the governor was trying to have others pay him to appoint them to take the O's senate seat?


    If so (and don't bash, I'm asking a very serious question here), could this be how the O came up so quick? He paid for his senate seat?


    The gov doesn't look like he thinks he did anything wrong. He's kinda young looking too. Could it be because Illinois has always had corruption like this? Gee, I think I'll go to Illinois and run for senator. LOL


    Nobody thought that
    Patriotism shouldn't be an issue, because there should be NO question whether a candidate for president is loyal to this country. The fact that there IS a question should scare people a lot more than it apparently does.

    Do tell. I thought she did too. nm
    .
    I thought that was odd too
    I was trying to figure out the strategy was with that. Maybe it was to convey that McCain thinks Obama is so inferior to him, he can't even bother looking at him? I don't know. They were supposed to be debating each other, and I wanted some more interaction.

    I kept waiting for him to look Obama in the eye and say you are wrong. Even Bush looked in Putin's eyes and saw his soul or whatever.

    I thought I was the only one who thought
    as you do. I've been pulling $ out of my savings every month to pay the bills that my paychecks do not. I work longer and longer hours, for less and less money.

    I, too, am 100% against this so-called 'bailout'. WHO, exactly, are they bailing out? I would actually LIKE to see the 'train-wreck'. I WANT to see Wall Street crash and all of the banks fail. I don't have any money in them anyway... it all gets spent on month-to-month survival.

    I already know how to get by on next-to-nothing. So it would be just EVER-SO-ENTERTAINING if we could sit back and watch all this high-flyin' corporate con-men lose their shirts and have to learn to live on nothing, as well.

    The best thing about allowing things to just take their own course, instead of falsely propping it all up with the crutch of a federal bailout, is that maybe, just MAYBE, if the whole system had to be re-built from the ground up, maybe they might do a better job this time around.

    So, fire those locomotives up, and point those suckers right at each other! Train-wreck! YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
    okay , that's what I thought, so why --
    why does everybody say that Obama wants socialized medicine then? That is not what I read. My take on Obama's plan is that he wants insurance available for everyone but that most people will still be insured through their employers, but the government will have insurance plans for those who do not get it through their employer. That is not socialized medicine to me, that is just providing insurance coverage for people who need it.
    Just another thought
    You say you want someone with experience.  Then the obvious choice is John McCain if you want business as usual, dishonesty, immorality, everything that is wrong with our government.  Give me a candidate who is moral, honest and has integrity and that's the candidate I want.  THAT could and would change the government that has almost already destroyed America as we know it.  Sara Palin's inexperience is absolutely NOT what I have against her.  If she had the other qualities, which I don't believe she does, I would vote for her although I think she might consider gettingt busy studying as even I knew the name of the General in Afghanastan.  More "experience" in Washington D.C. is exactly what we DO NOT need.
    Another thought s/m

    While I'm on a housecleaning campaign, the only woman I find more distasteful than Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton is Nancy Pelosi.  She had her friends need to GO.


    STILL VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!! and T. Boone Pickens.


    I thought about it some more and

    here's what I think:  IF Obama is elected, then look out for the White Supremists, a dispicable group, IMHO, right up there with the KKK.  Now........how racist am I?   I hate these racist issues no matter what color they come from.  We are ALL God's children, yellow, red, black and white, we are precious in his sight.  So why can't the Black Power AND the White Supremsts let it go already?????  Why can't we be just AMERICANS, not African-Americans, not Vietnamese-Americans, not Irish-Americans, not Chinese-Americans.......just AMERICANS?????????????  Can you answer me that?  Oh, I know, it's politically correct to say AFRICAN-Americans.  Nonsense.


    VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!


    Just when I thought there could not
    possibly be anyone more cartoonish than W. -- and there she is!
    Just a thought
    I am suspect of everything I hear and most everything I see when it comes to politics.  I saw some of these people speaking with the media.  If they were bribed, whiy do you suppose they got in front of the TV cameras.  Our politicians (notice pleural) are so corrupt I wouldn't put anything past them to try to swing the vote and people like blind sheep just follow along.
    just a thought...
    what's sad and pathetic is that the press everywhere, not just America, reports what stirs people up.  the fact that most Americans are working and struggling to make ends meet and put food on the table, and try their best to do what is right and make choices based on what is best for our country, is not considered newsworthy.  So what everyone sees is the few loonies who are not at all representative of the majority of Americans, but isn't it fun watching them on the news!  It will be a huge relief when this election is behind us, whatever the outcome. 
    i never thought of it that way
    "They sure go to a lot of trouble to fight against something they don't believe in."

    gourdpainter - i definitely will remember this; it applies to many areas of life where one should stop the conflict and just 'be'. is it the painting of gourds that lends itself to such peace and sagacity? if so, i will begin painting them today! your wise observations never fail to enllighten and many times amuse. when i see your tag, i know the post will be worth reading!
    I thought it was ee-jot........nm
    x
    no it's not but thought
    share their experiences... i did not demand... just asked if anyone is willing to share...
    i thought
    that meant "see message"... please correct me if i'm wrong.
    I thought that for a while but....sm
    I still think a lot of bad things about Obama and his aquaintances, however I don't think he is the antichrist. He may be a predecessor or an accomplice? But the thing is this - the US isn't the center of the Universe - the antichrist doesn't have to happen to be OUR president. When the end happens it will be nationwide, not just in the US. Many countries have been suffering unbearably for decades and even centuries. Look at the starving children in Africa and all the suffering all over the world. Certainly I desperately do not want us to suffer as well, but we are not the center of the Universe and just because we may end up suffering doesn't mean that is Armageddon. If so, then I guess these other poor countries have been in Armageddon for a long time. I am sure it is all related to the UN though, and someone is bound to emerge in the not so distant future who is the antichrist, but I don't really think Obama is him.
    Just a thought -
    I just realized something.  If we all keep staying on this board so much, none of us will have to worry about sharing wealth with other people because we will need it to trickle down to us!
    Okay...I don't believe I said I thought
    that ad was sexist.  I said a woman being interviewed on TV who was a democrat and Hillary supporter felt that it was.  As a McCain supporter....all I said was I hope more of them found it sexists regardless of what I thought because it would help McCain.  LOL! 
    Just a thought..........

       I think we are all bushed;  now, after all this bickering, I, as a democrat, feel like a 'sore winner. '  Yesterday a poster used this term and is accurate. 


    I suggest that we all take a couple of days a break from the politics board to cool down.  I will do this.  So long!  


    Okay, here's a thought for you

    Obama wants to eliminate coal. Doesn't even think about clean coal. Why?


    My husband would like to know: We have 250 years of coal for heating and power plants. Why abandon the coal industry?


    How many people are killed in interstate truck traffic/automobile accidents because people are driving on the interstate at unsafe speeds?


    How many people are killed in coal mines every year?


    How many people are killed in other industries like steel, airlines, etc.?


    How many people are killed in vacation accidents, be it a boat, surfing, fishing, swimming, etc.?


    The bottom line is, less people are killed every day in activities they choose to do. Coal has less deaths than any of the above. Yet, coal accidents hit the front pages all the time. A coal mine accident where 1 person dies is too much, yet it's better than the above.


    Obama wants to take away the most important resource we have in this country. Coal mining is one of the safest industries we have. If a few people die in mines, what makes it any better than other industries that AREN'T pasted all over the front pages?


    He doesn't agreeagree with doing away with coal. Why not hydroelectric? What's wrong with that?


    Can anyone explain why coal should not be used at until we find an AFFORDABLE alternate energy for everyone? Solar is not affordable for most people. We have been trying to figure out an alternate source of energy for our own home for the past 3 years. Since we are in the NE, solar would not work for us. Coal Does.


    Anyone want to comment?


     


    That very same thought not only...
    ...crossed my mind, but right now, it's the only thing I have remaining to COUNT ON! 
    TY for looking that up. I thought I had
    heard considerably more than that about 5 years ago, but maybe some changes and personnel have been made since then. I know I heard the Salvation Army gives 85% or 86% back into helping people and so I have stuck with them, what little I can give. Definitely not a gold Krugerrand!