Sometimes I do too, and I don't turn a blind eye to the the "party"
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-01
In Reply to: history and the - MissiLink
and its mistakes and exactly why we are in the shape we are in. I do not check my principles nor my thinking at the door of the DNC as you apparently do. The Democrats lost any high ground they had when they denied having anything to do with this and blamed it entirely on Republicans. Totally lacking in integrity.
Maybe "sometimes" is the operative word here.
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Apparently you turn a blind eye
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I have no "party." I am a registered Independent.
And I look at more than how someone speaks. Obama has had 18 months to get polished and up to speed. She has had a couple of months. As far as running a government, if something happened to McCain Palin would surround herself with advisors, just like Obama has done...Biden for foreign policy, plus the other 300 he has on staff, and we get Obama on day one. I have no doubt she would do every bit as well as Obama would. There is more than giving a blazing teleprompter speech than running the country. She has ably run a state, balanced the budget and given refunds on budget surpulses to her constituents. You are not able to do that if you are stupid. Again, I have no party...but I am confident in John McCain and if, God forbid, something happened to him I would be confident in Sarah Palin. At least I know she does not have an agenda to turn this country into a socialist nightmare, and Barak Hussein Obama has demonstrated he wants to do that, it is evident in what he says he WILL do, and that is why NOBAMA, NO WAY, NO HOW.
We get what we vote for. If we vote "party", we get extremes.
If we make it a point to try to identify candidates who hold moderate views and vote for them, rather than voting a "party ticket", we'll have a better chance of getting away from these extremes, whether right or left.
One of the problems, though, is that candidates often play games with their real positions. During the primaries, they talk the "party" line and then they move to the center for the general election. Both sides do this, unfortunately.
The only hope is to look at their past records - and take them seriously. History is prologue to the future. When a man has done certain things in his adult life, it tells us more about him than anything he says. If Obama hasn't taught us this fundamental truth, we'll never learn it. The evidence about him goes all the way back to his days in law school, and it was available for anyone to see. Some didn't bother to look. Others looked and didn't take it seriously. Either way, we weren't paying attention or he'd have probably never made it through the primaries.
No one can pull the wool over your eyes unless you let them, and the way they do it is by making smooth speeches filled with unlikely promises (and even glaring contradictions as they appeal to groups with opposite interests). They believe we won't notice the lies, exaggerations and mischaracterizations of their opponent's positions, etc. Unfortunately, they are often right.
Let's start taking the candidates' prior records and their life histories as the best evidence of who they really are - not their speeches. If we do this, we'll make better choices.
Did the FBI turn him down for a job?
Where DO you get your information?
TURN ON YOUR TV
They are bailing out the car makers right now. That is why stocks are down. The secretary of the treasury is the DECIDER of where the money goes and his boss is BUSH.
Why? So you could turn around and
B*tch and moan that he was trying to act too presidential too soon, that he's not sworn in yet and that he should have let W have his moment in the sun? Like I said, phoney outrage (much ado over nothing) is juvenile, beyond petty and very unbecoming. Besides, there's no point whatsoever in trying to please those among us who are determined to hate him no matter what he does.
turn off your TV
is what you posted under. Get control of your keyboard. Then maybe your mind will follow.
In the US, we turn away no one from an ER with or
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Dude! Turn off your PC and go out and look
It is JM's/SP's party's turn to be on the
the media dished out on their behalf throughout the entire primary season. Repeat. Show me one time JM has attempted to rein in his supporters when their tactics got out of control. Never mind what the media would or would not have done. I am looking for an example of JM expressing his awareness or concern that the tactics being used were inappropriate. O has done this on occasions, which makes the inquiry legitimate. The reason there is no answer is because there is no example. The hypocrisy of the remainder of this post speaks for itself and requires no rebuttal.
You are an adult when you turn 18.
Where does this adult work? How are her and her future husband going to support this child? Where does he work?
I highly doubt anyone considers Bristol Palin an adult because if they did, they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it on the news?????
If it did happen it will mostly likely turn up on
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Hope it will not turn
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Oh Please. He is too hot? Then turn off the heater
Sorry, but no excuse because of heat. I lived in a hot/he** state for almost 30 years and finally (Thank God) moved to a four season state. Since moving here, we turn down the heat to save energy and cost of gas heating and so we wear sweaters, etc. Too hot? Simple. TURN DOWN THE HEATER. Still too hot? Open up the windows. Poor excuse, because I came from Hawaii and it is too hot. I thought he also came from Chicago. I also remember him stating that his daughters could not believe there was no school because it was too cold and they could not believe it and in Chicago the girls would be outside playing unlike in Washington D.C. So which is it? Too hot or complains it is not cold enough for school to close? Contradicting personality. Also he arrives to practically everything LATE. I wonder how he would feel if he called a meeting and everybody showed up late and made him wait. Oops, forgot, dealing with a contradicting person.
Did mine. YOUR turn.nm
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Turn the tables
So someone found her flag offensive? too bad. I find not being able to fly it offensive so what is the difference? I just do not get this crap. If someone doesn't like her flag, then they shouldn't look at it. Otherwise, I don't find anyone's right to remove it more compelling than someone's right to fly it. Actually the reverse is true. This is the USA and we have a right to fly our flag. If someone doesn't like it, go live in a country that doesn't fly it, but don't force those beliefs down the throats of patriotic Americans.
So instead of trying to turn the tide back...
to where children can be children while they are in elementary school, we just keep indoctrinating them younger and younger? Sorry....don't see it. And why can't parents take care of this? Why do we need to have this addressed in a public school?
I wish I could agree with you...I don't. And I doubt if either of Barack Obama's little girls have had the sexual intercourse HIV AIDS class yet. Would be willing to bet on it, as a matter of fact.
Turn about's fair play so...
If you're condemning Palin for THREE MINUTES standing before a visiting minister, I'd love to hear your take on Obama spending TWENTY YEARS in the company of his spiritual mentor (Obama's words, not mine), Reverend Wright.
You believe AIDS was created by the US government to wipe out minorities?
You believe 'GD America is in the Bible?'
Or do you only believe things subjectively, when it suits your cause?
Do you hear yourself? Trying to turn a gaffe
Seriously. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that. Lay off those fringe blogs and turn off that Hannity before you end up in the boobie hatch.
Denial won't turn those numbers around.
I wouldn't expect too much out of the debate tomorrow either, especially McC caves and makes good on his threat to talk about Ayers. Can you say plunging numbers?
I most certainly do not turn off the TV every time he speaks
I listen carefully to every word he says, same as I do Obama. Thus far all I have heard from McCain is that "that one" is lying about. I would PREFER to hear what he proposes. I am perfectly capable of listening to Obama and deciding for myself without McCain's ( or Palin's) input.
I wonder when pubs are going to turn their attention
constantly pronouncing judgment on the big, bag boogey man. Have you noticed that republicans have a leadership and principle/platform crisis?
We did...turn off the TV, that is. Still splattered over the Internet, tho...
Took this site off my favorites, too, because you libbies are just too much lately.
Came back to see if there's anything nice going on, and just the same old rapture from you.
Unbelievable.
Why turn down Obama-bucks?
Why turn down Obama-bucks?
By: Roger Simon
February 24, 2009 04:36 AM EST
I never thought we’d live to see the day, but there are actually politicians out there who want to turn down money.
Some Republican governors, who normally like federal tax bucks, now want to turn them down. Why? Because they aren’t just tax bucks, they are “Obama-bucks.”
They are bucks from President Obama’s stimulus plan, and if these bucks put people back to work and let people hang on to their homes, he and the Democrats might get the credit.
And that would never do.
Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, attacked the Obama stimulus plan on Saturday by saying, “It’s filled with social policy and costs too much. You could create just as many jobs for about half as much money.”
OK, Gov. Barbour, go ahead and do it. And get rid of all that evil “social policy” while you are at it.
Bobby Jindal, the Republican governor of Louisiana who often has “rising star” and “presidential hopeful” attached to his name, also said he didn’t want some of the federal money.
But under questioning by David Gregory on “Meet the Press” Sunday, Jindal seemed to wilt a little when it came to explaining why.
“Well, let’s be clear,” Jindal said, not being clear at all. “The best thing that Washington could do to help Louisiana and all of our states with our budgets is to get this economy moving again.”
Gee, thanks. But don’t get him wrong. While some people see these times as filled with pain and suffering, Jindal sees them as an opportunity. A political opportunity.
“I think now is the time, and it’s a great opportunity for Republican governors and other leaders to offer conservative-based solutions to the problem,” Jindal said.
Because those conservative-based solutions worked so well under George W. Bush, right?
It is not just Republican governors who are irked with Obama-bucks, however. There is Rick Santelli, an on-air Editor for CNBC, who went on the air live last week from the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade and delivered what he now proudly refers to as his “rant.”
Basically, Santelli doesn’t want federal aid going to people who can’t pay their mortgages. “How many of you people want to pay your neighbor’s mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can’t pay their bills?” Santelli said, waving his arms.
He then called such people “losers” and said it was better to “reward people that could carry the water instead of drink the water.”
When Wall Street moguls got billions in bailout money and gave themselves millions in bonuses, threw lavish parties, redecorated their offices and ordered $50 million jets, Santelli did not wave his arms and rant.
Because Wall Street moguls are not losers. They are his people. But when it comes to the working-class family trying to scrape by, that’s where we must draw the line. Throw them out on the street. Foreclose on their homes, even though the banks can’t sell those homes.
Because it’s far better to have a foreclosed house on your block with the windows boarded up than having a family living there and paying a renegotiated mortgage, isn’t it?
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs quite properly slapped back at Santelli last week, sarcastically inviting him to the White House for a cup of “decaf.”
But Santelli doesn’t need decaf. He needs the milk of human kindness. (What does he do in his free time, go down to homeless shelters and laugh at the “losers”?)
The Santelli “survival of the fittest” plan is the opposite of what Barack Obama said repeatedly during his campaign. “If we’ve learned anything from this economic crisis,” Obama said Oct. 18 in St. Louis, “it’s that we’re all connected. We’re all in this together, and we will rise or fall as one nation, as one people.”
The Republicans don’t believe it. They think opposing the Obama financial recovery plan is their ticket to success. Mark Sanford, the Republican governor of South Carolina, recently criticized the three Republican senators who voted for it, saying it was “a gut check vote, a gut check deliberation ... for the future of our civilization.”
The Republican platform for 2012 is going to be: “You give up your house so we can win the White House.”
And they thought 2008 was bad.
Amusing to see those elitists cry "hate!" at every turn:)
Let's cut the crap. Republican apologists are some of the nastiest, most condescending and basically vicious debators on the boards. So while you're running around crying Bush haters! and insinuating that they are little more than drooling fools, you might keep in mind that your astounding and deliberate hypocrisy is far uglier than any natural, normal anger at an incompetent leader could ever be.
Don't forget that he flip flops at every turn....sm
of the wind, saying stuff INFORMED voters well know is just a ruse to get votes. Most of the stuff he is so-called "promising" will never get out of Congress - he knows that and is banking on uninformed Americans who think highly of his rock-star status. Personally I always thought the lying was supposed to start AFTER they got into office, but it's obvious that Obama sees things WAY differently than most folks who pay attention to his rhetoric instead of being "sheeple. "
Yep. It is our turn to be inspired. They need to book her a stadium....
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She didn't turn it in an abortion issue - you did
The poster tried to make an unfair slam against Sarah Palin talking as though Mrs. Palin is dumping her special needs child on the cold street corner when the poster knows for a fact that's not true.
Sam was correct in my opinion. All she said was at least she had him and not aborted him - which has been a big "media" talking point.
Your the one who has turned this into an abortion issue. Sam has the right to express her opinion just like the poster has a right to say what he/she did - unfortunately you must think its okay to distort and falsely spread lies.
Like Sam said - you give it a rest. I agree with Sam. I commend this woman for having a baby and choosing to raise it no matter what hardships they will go through. They have a strong and loving family and will do very well for the child.
So go stick that in your pompous attitude.
Obama supporters don't have to turn their headlights off (nm)
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Looks like O is getting ready to turn that ACORN smear
Asking DOJ for special prosecutor to investigate Bush-McCain vote fraud scheme. Now, this story is going to start growing some real teeth. 2000. 2004. 2008....NOT.
Encouraging and empowering kids to turn in pedophiles
Your link is a dead end.
How much are we supposed to stand for???...government keeps trying to turn to the taxpayer ...sm
to fix all these messes when we are not the ones with the money. Go to the CEOs, etc with the huge bonuses and golden parachutes, and ALL the money, and have them bail the banks out. They are the ones who made this mess. I live in a state that already double taxes me on my vehicles, has one of the highest sales tax rates in the country, and we even have taxes/fees our loved ones have to pay when we DIE~!!@!@ I am so sick of this! Think I'll quit paying all my taxes and when the IRS comes knocking on my door, I'm gonna hold my hand out on my way out the door on that Bahamas cruise NOT paying taxes paid for, and say oh please bail me out, I can't pay this. Yeah I'll get bail alright, but not in a good way!
We are blind.
We have become so successful that we have gotten a bit big for our britches here. Until 9/11, we thought nothing would happen on our own shores. Other countries hate us. When we declared war in Iraq, almost everyone turned their backs on us. Yet we continue to ship American jobs out of the country. We continue to buy food and products from other countries that may not have the best regulations. Here we have people's medical histories on our computer screens and the same information could very easily end up on someones computer screen in India to be typed. The outsourcing of transcription, in my opinion, is one of the dumbest things we have ever done. We are so arrogant that we often don't stop to see the big picture.
I love our country and I'm proud to be an American, but I am rather disappointed in how things are going in our country. We are in deep crap here and I hope and pray that we will get some people in Washington who have a brain and can change things for the best....granted....nothing can be a quick fix and I can't imagine things changing for a few years at least. I want a good change though. I won't vote for change just because it is different. What is the point of change if that change doesn't help in the long run?
You are so blind!
All you want to do is sit around and complain about things and point at one political party for the blame. You list issues like the war, economy, etc.....and yet when someone actually responds with information, you simply ignore it and say it is nonsense. What is nonsense is the fact that you never rebuttable with anything of significance. For once, post something of substance.
I'm not blind.
He has addressed the issues that are important to me personally.
John McCain and his cronies, on the other hand, only recently discovered there IS a middle class in the USA, you know, the "whiners."
you are so blind nm
There are none so blind as......... sm
those who will not see.
Personally, and bash away if you want, I feel that Bush did as good of a job as he could have with the hand he was dealt. I daresay no one on this board could have done a better job. If you want to bash me for that, get out the hammer, but I will not get into a shouting match with anyone here. Last time I checked, this was a free country (how much longer I will be able to say that remains to be seen) and I am entitled to my opinions.
I particularly liked this passage from this article and feel it speaks volumes of the climate in America today, not just on a national front but right down to the smallest governmental divisions, like small towns and schools.
"Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them."
There Is None So Blind As He Who Will Not See
If you choose to live in ignorance, it's up to you.
Wallow in it for all I care. Apparently you enjoy your intellectural oblivion, like all the other obamazombies.
And, seriously, 'babycakes?'
What are you, 9? Does your mommy know you're on her computer, dearie?
There are non so blind as those who will not see.
Personally, I hope you guys keep this up indefinitely since (as some of the GOP leaders have pointed out) it undermines the party's credibility and makes them all look like a bunch of fools.
How blind.........
First of all, O'Reilly has never ever suggested the man deserved what he got or anything close. That has even been talked about on his show with others saying he never suggested violence against this man, so quit regurgitating garbage you hear on liberal hate mongering outlets.....
Let's remember 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'.... the man who killed Dr. Tiller should be prosecuted just like anyone else who takes another's life like that; however, keep in mind, Dr. Tiller has been murdering also by the thousands for many decades. He too was a murdered.
Why should O'Reilly be accountable for anything? Remember FREE SPEECH? He can say whatever he pleases just like the liberals who love to back abortionists.
"Are anti-choice groups celebrating today? An abortion doctor is dead so women won't have unwanted pregnancies!
I personally never celebrate anyone being murdered, even this man, even though I find it hard to understand how he could even step foot in a church knowing he murders the very lives God put here. Very hypocritical to say the least. But that is now between him and God...
Too bad you're so worried about the anti-choice groups you BELIEVE to be celebrating this man's death but you show no compassion at all for the babies he murdered for decades! Where's your concern for those children?
How about the war on terror including people like this doctor who slaughtered near-term babies for decades.. what exactly would you call him?
You are so narrow minded that you don't even get that there are many people who are against abortion that do not consider themselves religious.... you seem to be stuck on the term "religious" for some reason...
What do you call groups that push for murder of these unborn children? They're not TERRORISTS?!! What a hypocrit!
holy crap- i forgot to turn off the water in the bathtub!!!!
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Lets make a bet on how long it takes dems to turn
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You are cold, blind to yourself and obviously
My question for you would be the same as the question the OP asked Sam. Who do you hate more? Blacks, the poor or Dems? Unless you are truly interested in knowing exactly what happened there and why people could not get out, I will not dignify your post with my time, much less my comments, other than to say that people there did not refuse to leave....they could not get out. 1863 people died in that city behind broken levies.
Here's one issue you might consider. Funding for the levies/US Corps of Engineers who are responsible for their maintenance…repeatedly cut to fund Iraq and tax cuts for the rich, despite repeated warnings of the need to shore up, maintain and/or replace them. The literature is out there for those who are interested. Let me say this much loud and clear. By no means is this the only factor. It is one of many. You show no real interest in understanding this and therefore, I have no real interest in debating with this kind of uninformed rhetoric.
I have lived on the Gulf Coast all my life. When Katrina happened, I was paying close attention. To blame the victims of this horror IS cold-blooded. You want to be that way, fine. No problem. But I will not stand by and be silent when I see this kind of stupidity. Whether you care or not, besides the 1863 who died there, there are refugees from Katrina in the 10s of thousands from the incompetence and failures of FEMA, withholding of federal emergency funds to the most heavily stricken areas, either deliberate or as a result a president who does not know how to read a map. Declaring emergencies is his job. At the very least, take a look at this map and tell me there isn't something wrong with this picture.
And by the way, this is not just about what happened during the storm or its immediate aftermath. This is also about failures that were NOT local leadership that occurred over and over and over again over months and years in the aftermath.
http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/637/1/
map
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090102261.html
Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/
No one can say they didn't see it coming
Blind faith.....
In a way it is. I have faith that God is there for me. That doesn't mean things are sugar and honey all the time, because they're definitely not.
Jesus ask of to just have the faith of a mustard seed. He is asking us to have no more faith than that of the size of a mustard seed, which is meniscule, and you will be surprised where that will take you. You know, we are asked to ask questions of God, to seek him, and ask Him to prove Himself. What better way for God to show us his love than to ask Him to prove himself?
You might just see great things happen in your life.
The only blind eye here was turned toward
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It is sad that people are that blind.
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not blind or ignorant
I was going to vote for O but found that I just cannot due to the abortion issue. Do I like McCain. NO. So I am stuck. But not everyone that doesnt vote for O is a racist or stupid or blind. Just an FYI
Are you so blind as to what's happening in
this country that you truly still think McCain should've won? Do you not see what republicans do to our economy EVERY TIME? Are you enjoying this Bush Depression which is only just beginning? Our only hope is that Obama can at least slow it down, but Bush has already done the damage. Unemployment rates are soaring, homelessness is soaring, jobs are flying overseas with the blessing of republican corporate tax cuts and loopholes, the deficit is astronomical now, etc. etc. etc. The rich are getting richer & the middle class is getting poorer. It's a deja vu of the Reagan/Bush years. Get your head out of the sand & pay attention to what's happening economically to this country. I don't give a flying flip about this idiotic birth certificate argument or any of the other thousand fake issues Fox has invented to get it's viewers fired up. What I DO care about is the economy & Americans losing their jobs and homes because of republicanomics.
Plus PM Brown is going blind. nm
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Yes! Don't you hate when you wake up happy, turn on theTV with a nice cup of coffee, and one of t
giving an interview (alibi) that not even HE OR HIS MOTHER could believe, defending spending millions of dollars renovating an office because "he could not possibly use it as it was, did not fit in," ARE YOU KIDDING??? Was it a stalag, did it have electricity, a desk, chair, and necessary electronics? Are there people out there, living and breathing, who actually THINK this way????? Tell that to the woman who has not eaten in days so that she can give a few morsels to her kids, trying to keep them warm with old blankets because the heat was shut off! The unbridled greed in this country (along with moral decay, and by that I do not just mean sex, I mean morals like charity, honesty, hard work, sacrifice, humanity), is what is destroying our country incredily quickly. It has been a hidden, ugly plague.......oh sorry, guys, I say this interview when my eyes were barely open and I think I popped a blood vessel just listening!!
Bush picks on the blind.sm
It was inadvertent, but still funny that he is such a dodo. Was going to post the link on Wonkette, but there was a curse word on that page, and did not want the 3 Bush supporters over on the other board to get their undies in a knot.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Bush-Sunglasses.wmv
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