Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-13
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Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill. Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back????? Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t. Help??? I like blue so much better! 
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Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill. Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back????? Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t. Help??? I like blue so much better!
They are turning on each other.
Thank you to the person who sent me this.
The Anti-Republican Republican Who is Really a Republican
The whole anti-Republican Republican ruse might have succeeded, were it not for the fact that McCain's rhetoric was at odds not merely with his own voting record - 90 percent with Bush - and his own Bush-on-steroids agenda.
Even as he was pledging to "change the way government does almost everything," the senator from Arizona announced his commitment to much, much more of the same.
He pledged to maintain endless occupations of distant lands that empty the U.S. Treasury of precious resources that might pay for infrastructue renewal, housing and job creations initiatives for hurting Americans.
He outlined trade and tax policies that would extend, rather than alter a failed economic status quo.
He reintroduced flawed proposals for health care, education and entitlement reforms that Americans have wisely rejected.
And he threatened to achieve "energy independence" by declaring:
"We will drill..."
"We'll drill..."
"More drilling..."
McCain's rhetoric was that of a liberated man declaring his independence from his party's failed president and corrupt Congresses.
But his platform was that of Republican candidate who, for all of his talk of reform, offers the crudest continuity to a country that is crying out for change.
http://www.truthout.org/article/the-anti-republican-republican-who-is-really-a-republican
tide is turning
If the republicans keep being brought up on charges, which it seems will happen, LOL, this tide will continue to turn. If the Libby situation continues for months on end, it will also affect the republicans chances next year and hopefully (now Im just dreaming) if Cheney is shown to have played a part in the outing of a CIA agent, this will really mean positive things for democrats. I must state, my own feeling is Cheney, of course, was part of the outing of Valerie Plame, how could he not be? His Chief of Staff is but not him? Oh please.
Twisting and turning
Wouldn't you say the mindset of the young depends on the conditions and need for the war? That is what I was alluding to. In condemning this generation with their lack of morals you are also condemning soldiers in Iraq, I assume? My belief is that if this country ever found itself in a dire situation that our young people would respond as needed. Call me an optimist. I cannot condemn a whole generation based on my version of what is moral and what isn't. I would say sending soldiers to die in an unnecessary war is immoral. Lack of care for our country's poor and sick is immoral. Little kids starving in our country is immoral. Our treatment of minorities and your condemntation of all liberals is immoral. I believe that not only is abortion immoral, but many other things, too. You may also blindly support our military, no matter what it is sent to do. I don't. I'm not a fool. I would not have supported our military slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Native Americans in the 1800s, or supporting the slavery trade indirectly. I would have applauded and supported any soldier who went AWOL, any demonstration against this military action. Unlike you.
But you see, I have common sense. I cannot argue or debate with someone who doesn't have it. You have a blinding anger toward Democrats and liberals. You have no use for the truth. I am sure this is not the first time you have been told this.
The rest of your post is so twisted and lacking common sense, even to insulting a person for reading books (heavens, we wouldn't want to educate ourselves -- another fear of the conservative posters) that it isn't worth my time to answer.
Please read Lurker's post. You will deny it's accuracy, I'm sure.
As far as Ann Coulter, someone posted that the liberals had written and said terrible things also. Indeed they have. But Ann's article was posted on the conservative board as a fine and shining example of conservative wit and intelligence. In reality, it was one of the smuttiest and sickening things I have read in a long time. I don't recall any liberal posters crowing over such liberal trash on this board. They seem to be a pretty moral group over all, and a group that's got a lot of common sense, most of all.
Twisting and turning
You have a need to twist and turn the truth and you appear to have little common sense or ability to see the big picture as far as humanity is concerned. This may explain why you appear to have little to do with your time other than post incessantly and lengthily on a board where you are only interested in passive-aggressive attacks under the pretense of "trying to understand."
As far as your post where you perseverate to almost a frightening degree regarding my comment on your "rightwing rags" -- you know exactly what I'm referring to. Just your comment alone about all the soldiers supporting the war and your questioning the poster about where they heard that some soldiers do not support this war --- that's a prime example. A year or two ago when you'd post you'd simply cut and paste lengthy quotes from those right-wing publications I refer to.
Don't know why I'm having to tell you this. I'm having to play your game and that's not a good idea as your rules aren't fair, or truthful some of the time.
Turning back the clock...
Funny how people like to apply today's current political issues to 25 year ago. Are you old enough to remember our relations with Iran around 1979 and 1980? The Ayatollah took over and during the 80s they expressed an interest in obtaining nuclear weapons. So, we had to choose the lesser of 2 evils, Iraq. You know, last time I checked the world has been fresh out of crystal balls for a very long time. You like to live in a hindsight is 20/20 world.
And Teddy Roosevelt is turning over in his sm
grave about the so-called Republicans nowdays...
This board is turning ugly
Towelhead? Oreo? half-breed??
SHAME on you.
shame on you.
Yup LOL - here I go again - Thanks for turning this commical JTBB
I kept thinking to myself, by god I'm going to have the last word. HA HA - okay, I'd done feeling I need to have the last word. Too many other things to think about.
Then what are ya gonna do about the dems turning
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Then it sounds like things are turning
Perhaps you can stop with the yelling already. It can't be good for your health to get so wound up.
Even Obama's dems are turning on him right
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You're right - the US is quickly turning into a total
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Turning 60 this year and ready to PAR-TEEE.
to know my son will have a progressive and future-oriented leader looking after his best interests. To watch in horror as my own generational cohort sold out the American dream...maybe been around a little too long. In any case, I plan to stay up 'til the race is called and ring in the new era with a champagne toast to the dawn of better days to come.
Really well-said; subsidy and help is one thing, turning your nose up at....sm
honest jobs for your family and obligations is another, I guess because I came from a farming family and you did what you had to do to survive and took great pride in doing so....is all that gone with past generations?? I fear life has been way to easy and "instant" for far too many, they do not know the meaning of the word sacrifice, which was what helped bring the country out of the Great Depression. Good post!
I had that happen one time too...a post turning up missing. sm
And all I did was say I felt other posters were being too harsh. That was it. So I emailed the moderators and the reply I got was that if somebody complains about a post, then all the replies associated with that post are also deleted along with the offending post.
I hope this helps shed light on your missing post.
Yes, that's what you're doing. Predicting the future and turning a blind eye
Why are you so quick to believe he isn't is the
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Turning Obama's loss of his last living elder relative
Palin's handicapped child was being dragged out at all hours of the day and night to help gain that hockey mom family values gal political capital. No harm in pointing that out. Pregnant daughter used by the fringe camp as a convenient way to cry sexism foul and cop out on legitimate political debate on Roe vs Wade and birth control. Son and daughter are still among the living.
Obama's grandmother has been politicizd how? He credits her for instilling him with many of the values that drive him to seek office. She raised him during his moist formative years. She is DYING, for heaven's sake. Most human beings understand that grieving this kind of loss is off limits in terms of gaining political traction. This coming from the party that would shove their morality down our throats. I am so sure.
I just quick read this but
it seems these were Saddam henchmen not *9/11 perps* as was claimed above unless you all are finally conceding that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.
However, I agree that these people shouldn't just walk free. If they are connected in any way with Saddam and/Al Queda/Hamas or any known terror cell they should never see light of day again be it in the depths of a prison or from their graves.
Just one quick question...
where is the iota of value in this post? And, as it has been explained on numerous occasions, we are allowed to cross-post. Liberals also post on the conservative board. I asked a simple question of a liberal poster and was rewarded first with condescending comments alluding to the superior intellect of the liberal poster, and rewarded second with accusations that I was a cliche (my native american heritage). And after all that....refused to answer my question. I suspect because the posterior was incapable of doing so. Perhaps you can explain to me why many liberal posters post something, and when you ask them a question about it and they cannot, the resort to condescending and hateful comments. Talk about not having one iota of value in a post other than to talk down to someone asking a simple question. Wouldn't the best thing to do be just not answer the post at all? Don't understand the defensiveness. All that tells me is that they are not secure in what they believe and without talking points to refer to are lost as a goose. That is not an accusation...it is an observation.
Just another quick observation...
when Clinton came to OKC after the Murrah bombing, even though he is not anywhere on my list of favorite people, I was happy that he came and represented the office and spoke to we Oklahomans. It was moving and I was very, very happy that he came. What I did NOT do, and what NO conservative I was aware of did, was complain that why did he come there and NOT go to the funerals of those soldiers who were killed and their bodies dragged behind Jeeps in Somalia. Why, you ask? Because the two had absolutely NOTHING to do with each other. And to try to make political hay out of what happened at Virginia Tech is immature, thoughtless, and another hurt to add to those poor folks in VA trying to deal with this. War is awful, hateful, and NOBODY wants it; however, death has always been associated with war. However, going to your class innocently on any April day and having a lunatic come in and shoot 32 of you is FAR different. And if you really cannot see the difference and the emotional effect, not just you but a great many on the left, need to really sit down and examine your values. Seriously.
Quick question for you
How can McCain vote with Bush 90% of the time when Bush does not have a vote in the senate? Also, a lot of the votes in the senate are unanimous so that means that democrats are voting "with Bush" too. Please research these things by looking at actual voting records of folks instead of believing whatever the media says, left or right.
Quick definition..sm
Marxist-Socialist
A philosophy-turned-governmental-ideology, usually mistaken for Stalinist/Leninist-Communist. This philosophy, although greatly misunderstood, is nothing more that the belief that the strong, the capable, and the powerful should support those too weak to support themselves. This philosophy, created by Karl Marx, was meant to be the fundamental building block for a utopian society, but was later taken up by a man named Lenin, who twisted and warped the pure isea of Socialism and turned it into Leninist-Communism. Later adopted by Joseph Stalin, who made the idea of Socialism a cruel cycle of death, hatred, and intolerence.
Quick question
I can't believe that I am going to get involved in this, but I have to stand up for the truth..
1 Peter 3:15 "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence".
What do you think makes you a Christian, bcuz you were baptized? Never in scripture does it say to be a Chrisitan you have to be baptized. Being baptized is the outward sign that you are a christian. It is all based on believing in Jesus who died on the cross for your sins. John 3:16; John 3:36; John 6:40; John 6:47 the list could go on.
Women Deacons:
God never once said deacons were to be women. It is talked about in 1 Timothy 3:8-13. However, you need to read the scripture in contexts, bcuz this is where a lot of people think when he says "wife" he is saying "deaconess",however, this is not the case. You need to take the words back to the original language to understand their true meaning. Also if you search out 1 corinth 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12. If you have a lexacon, I suggest using it, and if not buy one.
For homosexuality:
Sin is sin, all sin is equal to death (Rom. 6:23)unless you have trusted the Father. Once you have trusted the Father then you also have the Holy Spirit housed in you. With the Holy Spirit, you will feel convicted over your sins and ask for forgiveness. This does not mean that you will never sin for all sin. There is none righteous, not even one (Rom. 3:10). However, if you ask for forgiveness it will be granted to you (1 John 1:9).
This does not mean that homosexuality is right. This was never what God intended. (1 Corinth 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10) Just a few passages.
I do not hate homosexuals, as hate would be a sin in God's eyes. However, we need to love them and show them that God loves them too. If they would trust in God, he would forgive them and help them to turn away from their sin.
Tithing:
Tithing is an old testament law. Once Jesus' blood was shed on the cross that was our payment of sin and no longer holds us under the law of the old testament. However, this is one law that churches like to hold onto. If you practice this law of the old testament, then you know that it is not only 10% of your earnings, but 10% of everyhing in your possession.
Pro choice:
As you stated this is everywhere in the bible. God never wanted abortion. All children are His children. Refer to the Ten Commandments, "Thou shall not commit murder". This is all over in the bible.
As a professing Christian, I hope that you brush up on what scripture teaches us. You are hurting the Christian race by blasphemying Christ; going against His word. (Matt 12:31) We need to keeps God Commandments (John 14:15;). I could go on.
As for things are different today then they were back then, read Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever".
True Christian's beliefs should not be different. There is only one bible (different translations), but if you studied it and researched it back to its original language, you would know that "religion" does not make us Christians, believing His word does.
I am not trying to bash you, I am merely trying to help you.
I attend a free grace church. If you or anyone wants to learn more you may email me and I will give you the church website. We have free sermons to download and listen to.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life".
Sad that some Americans always want a quick
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Unbelievable is all I can say, Everyone so quick to...sm
believe and condem. Does not anyone know that what you read on the internet is not gospel? I have not heard a thing on the national news, so I will wait and see.
Why are you so quick to discount this but you
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Way too quick to judge!
I was simply passing on a story, like the OP. I'm not Republican because my dad is. I'm a conservative and if those beliefs happen to go along with the Dem candidate, then that's who I'll vote for. The story was meant to show how people's idea of "spreading the wealth" can sound like a really good idea - everyone haveing an equal share - but when you get down to it, it goes against everything our country was founded on. The American Dream - come sign up to get your welfare check! No thanks!!!
Quick question.
Did they know Rock Hudson was gay back then? I didn't realize that was public knowledge back then. I thought that came out later.
I still say that teaching children tolerance of others different than they are is one thing. Teaching acceptance of such a controversial topic is another story.
As for not teaching 5 year olds...what was with the story about the same-sex penguins who raised a baby penguin together? If that isn't teaching kindergartners about homosexuality...well then I don't know what is.
Tolerance can be taught without teaching acceptance of homosexuality in public schools. Besides, since homosexuality is much more out there than it was when I was in school, you would think kids would be used to having them in their schools anyway. I keep hearing about how same sex marriage is more acceptable especially by younger people and yet here you are telling us that homosexuality acceptance should be taught in public schools because it isn't accepted by young people. So which is it?
That was quick. Sorry I missed (*%*'s MySpace.
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how about a quick tubal ligation
dontcha think?
My quick explanations of my comments --
I did not blindly follow Obama. I did not vote for Obama because he is black. Actually, my vote may have been more of a vote against McCain than for Obama.
Next, to the points that I can address quickly - he is now not going to raise taxes on the "rich" because of the current economic condition, but that he is still intending on giving tax breaks to the middle class families.
He also said during the campaign that he is going to bring the troops home, but it has to be in a safe manner. You cannot just say that they are pulling out on a certain day - that would be crazy and extremely dangerous for our soldiers. It has to be arranged. He had a timeline in the beginning - people just jumped on what he said and took things out of context and listen to what words they want to hear, not every word.
I for one will support him as long as he is doing a good job and then I will be the first to stand up and say I should not have voted for him if things go bad. And the whole point of sending them to other countries, we all agreed in the beginning that we need to get Osama Bin Laden, so why not do it now? I think he needs to be gone and I think we need to do whatever it takes to get him. I, however, think that Obama's point of view is the same as mine, we should not be in Iraq wasting our time when that is not where the problem is...
When I say "love him or hate him", I mean that nobody is lukewarm for his policies. It seems as if everyone is either gungho behind him or gungho against him. That has been proven time and time again just on this board, not to mention other places out in public that I have been. The people who are for him are for him and the people that area against him cannot be objective to sit down and listen to his whole speech or his whole idea.
Don't be so quick to bash Bush.... sm
This is near the bottom of the article I posted. Maybe you just missed it.
"To gain access to the emergency loans, GM and Chrysler must also agree to a wide range of concessions, including limits on executive pay and the elimination of their private corporate jets. "
Everyone put it on Bush's shoulders to do some thing about this and now that he has, still he gets bashed. He's not my favorite president by far, but I think he should be afforded some kind of recognition for doing something to help the economy. As far as pay cuts for the UAW, the article says that they will have to bring their wages more in line with those of foreign auto makers, which is still a danged good salary. Would the UAW rather have a pay check or be completely unemployed? That is pretty much what it all boils down to. I wouldn't particular want to take a pay cut either, but in light of the situation and the current economic picture, I think I would thank my lucky stars that I at least would HAVE a jo
Like the old saying goes "You can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
Off  .
Wow, you sure are quick! BTW...love grapes! nm
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A quick look at this board shows...
me exactly where they are. 
After a quick scan of the board...
...I respectfully and totally disagree.
Quick - can you see this author's logical
Whether someone says "You shouldn't be able to do in your bedroom" or someone says "You should be able to do in your bedroom", it's just opposite sides of the same thing, i.e. someone offering an opinion about your bedroom activities. Whether it's "may" or "may not" doesn't change the fundamental character of the statement.
Got brain?
Not dim-witted, just clinging to false hopes, turning a blind eye to truth, and in for a big disappo
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Quick b4 they melt. She thinks global
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quick get out your remote lie detector tester
and tell us all from your isolated, secret location what is true and what is not.
Here, hold up a mirror, real quick....you just described...sm
how almost every liberal on this board holds their fellow members, you know, the ones so cherishingly called "repugs" and "rabid pubs."
You sound a lot like Ann right then....in reverse.
So predictable.
Quick to judge, aren't you? At least you apologized....
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Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing...
So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this. Could I still marry him? Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children? Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married? Just a thought!
Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing...
So, if married MEANS you can if you want have children, what if I married a man who was NOT ABLE to have children and I knew this. Could I still marry him? Would we be considered "married" in the eyes of others since we could not have children? Or a woman unable to have children, should she be able to be married? Just a thought!
Quick! Someone call the pound. AG's pit bull broke loose from
We can't be quick enough. You've seen how they're passing enormous bills -
- that they don't even read within a matter of hours. First the stimulus, then the tax bill on executive bonuses, etc.
Meanwhile, it's taken them over six months to investigate some very straightforward charges against Charlie Rangel.
CORRUPT!
It was blue long ago and turning blue now thanks to OBAMA THE HERO
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Republican
Are't you the one posting Democrat? Get over it. After all, thank God John Kerry's not in office, we'd all be dead.
Military Wife.
Just an fyi...I am not a Republican. (nm)
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