So much for tolerance of an opposing viewpoint....

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You are right, we are not the greatest country in the world anymore.  Greed and selfishness have taken over this country, and it's starting to take its toll.  That's why we have one of the worst education systems in the world -- our kids are being taught it's better to have things than to be a good person.  I love Canada, have traveled there many, many times, and love the people.  I have thought for a long time about moving there -- that might become a reality if we yet again put greedy, hate-mongering fools in the White House!

I've come to realize during this election there is a battle going on.  Many people like to speak their minds, while others are more reluctant to do so for persecution of our feelings.

I spoke with my dad tonight and he put a lot in perspective for me.  Dad�s always have a way of doing that (at least my dad does).  He told me tonight that things in life happen for a reason.  Sometimes we may not always see that reason until it has come to pass.  He said the ideas that you may have could possibly be wrong.  He said you may be right, but always leave the option open that you could be wrong. 

He told me that there is nothing I can do personally to change the minds of others, so to save some �frazzled nerves�, just read and listen but keep your opinions to yourself, and don�t look on the bad side when the guy has not even been sworn into office.  He said if there are articles of interest you want to share that is one thing, but just keep your feelings to yourself.  He said just read, watch, and listen, and in time we will see whether we have elected a good man and I hope for the countries sake he is a good man. 

He told me things are going to happen for a reason and you just have to learn to adapt otherwise you will just be in turmoil for things you cannot control.  Nobody knows what the future will bring.  So on those words of my dad I truly do hope President elect Obama becomes one of the greatest Presidents in history.    

I heard a person say that if the constiutents of the republicans are rich, it is in their best interest to keep them rich; therefore, if the constituents of the democrats are the poor, is it not in their best interest to keep them poor?

Not saying that I necessarily agree, just thought it was interesting.

I have my own set of beliefs. I have studied various religions. I am familiar with the Bible. I did not solict your advice on what I should or should not believe. I spoke about my hope for the future of our country with the strong candidates running for our next president.  Please step off. What you think you know about all liberals is neither here nor there to me. I am here to discuss politics with liberals. How many times do I need to explain this? Now take your tamborine and move on,

Ummm, actually we have shown tolerance until we are blue in the face.  Let's see, we have tolerated an unjust war (oops, make that 2 wars) for how long?  We have tolerated having *in god we trust* on money, a church on every corner, a preacher on most channels, religious signs all over the place, a republican president who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground, ......  the list is actually quite extensive.  However, when it comes to something as simple as expecting equal rights that are supposed to be guaranteed by the constitution, we get slammed for just bringing it up.  If an athiest sign is put up, it's all over the news (makes for good ratings, as Bill-O will attest to).  What isn't all over the news is the daily discrimination dished out by the opposition.

Why don't I just answer my own question from below since noone else seems to be willing to give it a try.  People who are against gay marriage say they are sacrificing.  The only thing I see as them having to sacrifice is the joy they get from being able to hold a minority under thier collective thumbs.

I ask this in the politest way possible and with all due respect.  I felt the need to say this after reading the posts below.

Is it possible to be a little more sensitive to those who have undergone an abortion for whatever reason and to be careful on the words being chosen, such as "murder." I'm sure there are some reading these posts who have had an abortion. It can be a very traumatizing thing to go through, which you cannot take back. There are some of us who have become pregnant with very deformed babies that would be extremely difficult to raise, including the possibility of not surviving after birth, where the choice to abort was difficult but a personal decision. I'm not saying it's the right choice.  I'm just saying sometimes a woman feels there is no other.

I say this from experience because I had to make that choice, and when I read that people think I'm a murderer and killed my baby, it makes it that much more hard to bear because I will always, always regret it.  I know I'm forgiven, but sometimes it's still hard to think---what if.

Just please be sensitive with the words you choose, and know there are those of us out here who have made this choice and regret it and have to live with it for the rest of our lives.

not acceptance.  I'm not advocating that everyone should accept homosexuality.  To accept it would be to agree with it, which would obviously conflict with the personal interests of some.  What I am advocating is tolerance.  That would include restraining one's self from attacking verbally or physically simply on the basis of sexual orientation. 

I think the point of the penguin story is to show that homosexuals are normal people who have feelings, goals, interests, families, etc. ---  the moral:  they may be homosexuals, but they are still people, no better and no worse than you or me.