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Sleep deprivation in the comfort of your own home

Posted By: versus (sm) on 2009-01-15
In Reply to: They call "sleep deprivation" torture. Then I have - been tortured for years. What a joke.nm

being hooded, bound and tied, naked, standing in the same position with lights on 24/7, being doused with ice water, insulted, harrassed, fondled and beaten for days on end....hardly the same.


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What? like sleep deprivation and waterboarding?
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Much sleep is to be lost over this...our soldiers are losing their sleep...so
if it is proven that the reason Plame was outed by our high government officials (which is a crime in and of itself) in order to expose her and her husband Joe Wilson to the media in retaliation for Wilson's findings on the WMD you should be able to tell the major difference between the two cases. But, I won't hold my breath.

If Plame was outed to the media by Scooter Libby, then it is a downright shame. How can any of the CIA coverts feel safe when the VP chief of staff is running his flap to the media leaking classified infomation?
They call "sleep deprivation" torture. Then I have
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If it's any comfort, 59% of the
in that they say it was a mistake to get into Iraq in the first place and 54% says it is unlikely a stable, democratic government will be established.

A very sad state of affairs.


Poll: U.S. disapproves of war in Iraq

Thu Jun 8, 7:24 PM ET

The death of al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq came as more Americans than ever thought the war in Iraq was a mistake, according to AP-Ipsos polling.

The poll, taken Monday through Wednesday before news broke that U.S. forces had killed al-Zarqawi, found that 59 percent of adults say the United States made a mistake in going to war in Iraq — the highest level yet in AP-Ipsos polling.

Approval of President Bush's handling of Iraq dipped to 33 percent, a new low. His overall job approval was 35 percent, statistically within range of his low of 33 percent last month. The poll of 1,003 adults has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Among other findings:

_More than half, 54 percent, said it's unlikely that a stable, democratic government will be established in Iraq, a new high in AP-Ipsos polling. The survey was completed before Iraq's parliament approved three key new government ministers. Just 67 percent of Republicans, 63 percent of conservatives, and 57 percent of white evangelicals believed a stable, democratic government is likely.

_Only 68 percent of Republicans, 57 percent of white evangelicals and 51 percent of self-described conservatives — key groups in Bush's base of support — approved of his handling of Iraq. Those most likely to disapprove are Democrats (89 percent), women (70 percent), minorities (84 percent), city dwellers (72 percent), those with household incomes under $25,000 (71 percent), and unmarried men (70 percent).

_Those most likely to believe the war in Iraq was a mistake are Democrats (84 percent), women (63 percent), especially suburban women (67 percent), minorities (76 percent), city dwellers (66 percent), self-described liberals (82 percent), moderates (64 percent), and Catholics (62 percent).

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AP Polling Director Mike Mokrzycki, AP Manager of News Surveys Trevor Tompson and AP News Survey specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this story.


Go home Obama! Go home McCain!
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It give me no comfort at all....sm
to see the two of you talk like this, nor do I wish to engage in any "told you" sort of mentality.


Things really do feel like they're changing, and if the dems succeed in stealing the last few runoff elections/recounts in the Senate and get the super majority there....look out.



I hope you feel better, Marmann...sounds like you may be under the weather.....





Cold comfort

But I believe we will be proven right before too long. And when that happens the failure will still be laid at the feet of Bush and the republicans.  The country was just too far gone.  Obama did his best against all odds, but victory was snatched away by those evil conservatives. 


I don't want our country to fail, but I do want Obama's ill-advised policies to fail because anything else will change this country into something I can no longer recognize.  Probably I will never earn 250K, but I like to think that if I ever do I might get to keep some of it without hundreds of sticky fingers trying to pry it from my grasp and give it to slackers who did not work for it.


Ummm...if you are truly gaining comfort from an
may I suggest you to get some professional help...pronto.
You would find more comfort on the conservative board.sm
Feel free to mozy on over their for some like minded folks.
Still resisting that step out of your comfort zone.
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I think it shows character on Obama's part and I pray for her comfort and healing if that is God&
and for comfort and peace for her family.
You got that right. I'd like to sleep

through the next few years, not because of who may win but what will happen after whoever gets in.


 


I sleep very well thank-you very much sm
If you read another post I said I do not wish any thing bad on this country nor do I wish anything bad on the president. But, the writing is on the wall, the man doesn't know what the heck he is doing. He has put this country out there as far as security goes. He is taking away means for this country to protect itself. It is he who is taking things lightly. I don't need to search for "crumbs" regarding his incompetence, its all right there in big boulders for you to see. I am trying to divide the country along party lines? It has been divided along party lines for decades. I sleep fine at night thank you..........except for when I worry when the next attack on this country will be because Obama does not know how to secure this country! BTW, he is only MY president because YOU voted him in. Wasn't my choice!
I agree. But put to sleep, no way. sm
I adopted a ferile kitten. They were going to drown them. Took me a long time to tame her, but she is greatest now even though she is very territorial. I have another persian cat who is no longer welcome at my local Petsmart because he bit the groomer. I guess I have what you would consider 2 attack cats.
I sleep very well at night, thank you.
I don't make near $80,000 a year but I pay my bills, insure my children, and they do not go without meals. We don't have the primo cable, we don't have the flat screen TVs, we don't drive the best cars. We don't have the high dollar video games. I have my priorities straight and I DO NOT expect tthe government to take care of my children. That is MY job. I am the parent.

As to disgusted for fund raises when kids get cancer...can you please get real? Even with insurance policies, there are huge bills left over. We all know that. Fund raisers help offset that. There is no policy in existence that pays every expense, I don't care HOW good it is. And there are hospitals all over this country...shriners, St. Jude to name a couple...and the ability to pay has nothing to do with children being treated. But they don't go looking for you; you actually have to go there for help.

Do you even really know what this bill would do or wouldn't do? Have you read it? You never answered my question. You think the government should pay the insurance for a family of 4 making $80K? WHY? You tell me why a family making $80K cannot pay for health insurance and feed their kids? If they can't, what they need is budget counseling, not freebie government insurance. As to payng huge premiums or eating....if a family of 4 making $80,000 has to choose between eating and insurance premiums...again...they need budget counseling. Families up to that level could get on SCHIP BEFORE the expansion. The reality is people did not make the hard decisions, and if they are making $80K a year with two kids and can't insure them, they have made wrong decisions. And..hellooo....unless it is a private hospital, if a child has a life-threatening illness such as cancer...they have to treat them. They cannot turn them away. And they have to accept payments "that the person can afford." We all know that too. You make it sound as if a diabetic child cannot get treatment if the government does not pay for it because his $80K parents can't take care of him. I cannot believe you made a statement like that. What parent, I ask you, making $80K a year could not/WOULD not take care of that diabetic child??? That has NOTHING to do with the government and EVERYTHING to do with the parent. Its called responsibility.

If you would do your homework and look at SCHIP as it is now and see how high up the income ladder it already goes...lower income families were covered then. Expanding it to include illegal aliens and families of 4 making $80K....not necessary.

I have nothing to look away from. If parents making $80K can look away and spend that insurance money on something other than their diabetic child....well, 'nuff said!!
You can't sleep without the last word eh?
Read through your posts on this forum - you gotta have the last word, and it's usually not a nice one.  Troublemaker!
How we sleep at night is also
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Boy, did you sleep through U.S. History?
Do you know the foundations this country was built on?

I didn't think so.
Don't lose sleep over it
Win or lose, we'll be rebuilding the Republican party.  That means purging the RINOs, too.  That's more than can be said for the Dems. 
I need to be able to sleep at night

Leaning to the right said it and I want to put it in a separate post.  I think this is one of the main reasons why people are voting for McCain.


I need to be able to sleep at night


How can they do this and sleep at night
I don't care what party someone is affiliated with. How can they do that and not think anything of it. I've got family out of work and losing homes and some going without eating some days and these politicians want money to go for pig smells, rodents, or whatever the pork product is. How can they do that and stand up there and act as though there is nothing wrong with it. When the politicians stop caring about what is happening in the economy that is the time they should stop being a politician.
So did I, guess he is a sleep-walker....
me. You know, Obama looked a little tired this morning. All those cigarettes are catching up with him. Let's see now, his mother died at what age, from what disease? Oh, and McCain's mother is 96 and still going?
The COUNTRY will be able to sleep at night? I doubt that..nm
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Bush said Obama asked to see the room where his girls would sleep -
Bush said it was obvious that Obama was going to be a family man even in office.
Go home
Now, isn't it you, AG, who whine everytime someone you think is a liberal, posts on your board? Yet, here you are posting on the liberal board, where you clearly don't belong. Hmm, must be that conservative double standard again. Wow!

Anyway, girls shouldn't be posting on a board for grownups.
Thanks for the welcome home.
My mom (god rest her soul) would be absolutely thrilled I've come back to "the real world". She would then probably say to me "Bout time you got off those drugs", and we would both have a good laugh.

I have mixed feelings about Hannity. He's okay sometimes and other times I think he's condescending and smug. In all fairness to him I also think that way about Alan Colmes, Keith Obermann, Rush Limbaugh, and all the other "extreme" media people. I do understand what you mean when you asked if I was Hannitized. I do like his radio show when I get a chance to listen to him. (I just wish he'd get a new theme song and not that woman who is screaming (got to cover my ears when she belts out "Let Freedom Ring". I understand her message and the words, but if she could just sing them a bit softer. :-) That's neat you met him? What was he like. He seems like a nice person in real life.

DH people will say means darling husband. In my case it means Dam% husband. Ha ha
I think they should all go home
and let Wall Street bail themselves out.
This article sure hit home.

I remember feeling the very same way that Ted Rall felt, thinking the very same things, and realizing that if I'm no genius and can figure this out, why can't Bush? 


And I agree that the last paragraph IS good!!!  But all they do is talk.  None of them have the guts to go anywhere near the Sunni Triangle.  They're nothing but hot air, which is good for them, because they're going to need all the hot air they can get.


I can't wait until, say, February.  If you think it's tough now just filling the car tank, what's it going to be like for those with oil heating?  I wonder how easy it is to constantly chant the mantra "I love Bush" (or whatever they've been programmed to chant) when your teeth are chattering from the freezing cold.  And I wonder how many, once they regain the consciousness they lost while opening their heating bills, will still think Bush is so great. 


That is his vacation home
Or should I say his $10 million retreat in New Hampshire. His legal residence is a big colonial in Massachusetts. You know, the one where he had the illegal immigrants doing his lawn work. I actually voted for McCain today just so I could vote against this guy.
Oh please let him go home in his truck....I'd
rather do it myself!!  LOL.
I think that the democrats need to go home...sm
and let the republicans sort it out with their president.  Hurt feelings are not a reason to vote for or against something that is good for the country because you are trying to make a point.  What a bunch of middle-aged/elderly/men crybabies.  I hope that the president lays it on the line to those that voted against his plan. 
I think the Republicans should go home...
and let the Democrats, who have the majority anyway, put their money where their mouth is and pass it. Put their country first instead of their political futures. Take a chance. They have it in their power to pass it. The Republicans can't. They don't have enough votes, even if they wanted to.
And the first one to head home should be

so what do you use to heat your home
Just curious.  We're putting in Geothermal.  It's about $20K to put it in, but I think it'll be worth it in the long run.
I have my gun for home protection..
While I hope that I never have to use it, there is no more unmistakable sound than loading that shotgun!
The point that really hit home with me..sm
was that by voting for Obama we are, in God's eyes, an accessory to murder. I have always been against abortion, always will be, but the gravity of the situation never really struck home with me. Of course, this pales in comparison to the fact that innocent babies are being murdered each and every day.

Abortion will never be done away with, but at least we don't have to play a part in making it legal. Like you said...what's next? Our elderly who are seen by some as a burden on the Medicare system? How about the mentally ill who may never be cured of their illness? Would forced abortion become law to control the population? What about accident victims who have desirable blood and tissue types for organ transplant? Will they be killed or allowed to die in order that someone else might live? Say these ideas are far fetched, but who is to say what might come about next once the way is made clear for abortions on demand to be legal?
Do you only have 1 channel in your home?
Do you live out in the sticks? Nothing but just the local channels? Why cant you change the channel that you have or just turn the frik… television off. If I don’t like a program off it goes. So simple.
Home of Bob Corker...(sm)
Chatt.  Yeah -- that would be our former mayor who did that number on Harold Ford --- *call me Harold.*  From what I understand the actress that did that now can't get a job.  I hope Harold runs again, but I doubt he can get elected.  He's too much like Obama for TN.
north to home, are you seeing this
somebody else is using the E word!
When a soldier comes home...

Paste this link or follow the link at the bottom of the post.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdTUcZLSXw


charity begins at home
Im wondering, with Bush's millions, has he given to the Iraq rebuilding?  My mom always taught me, charity begins at home..So home first, then American states.  Give to Bush's immoral war?  I dont know, gonna have to research my soul on that one..
They're coming home to

Why not gt the bog of ugliness is where you feel most at home

stick your hateful nose in the air.  You  start all kinds of crap then run away.   Typical.  Don't call people a racist and then expect them to not to respond. 


I'm far from home but nothing's going to stop the holidays...
I love it all too gt! Have a chance this year to really dig deep and find out what the holidays are all about, since I'll be far from friends and most family throughout it all. Learning experience! I love tradition though...can't wait for it all.
Gee, Democrat, if your uncle wants to come HOME,

I guess the CONS will start accusing HIM of being against the troops next!


The more their ship sinks, the more angry and ridiculous their posts are, and all I can do is sit here and smile. 


Supporting them would be bringing them home, and then there would...sm
not be such a wish list.

We had a friend stationed in Iraq (she is back now, thank God) and we sent her some lotions and things she asked for, but I'll admit I didn't know there were wish lists like this on the web. From the contacts I have over there with my uncle and brother in law (back now thank God) being males they told us not to send anything because they have/had everything they needed. I have searched the web just now and found many on the web, and I will do whatever my heart and pocketbook leads me to do as far as sending care packages.

You can't judge a book by it's cover. Just because you have 8 boxes in your office ready to go doesn't make you anymore patriotic than the next man.
Last Katrina child goes home












Last Katrina child goes home



A mother and her missing daughter are reunited seven months after a hurricane devastated New Orleans

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THE last of more than 5,000 children missing after Hurricane Katrina has finally been reunited with her mother, ending the largest child-recovery effort in US history.










After seven months of searching by her mother, amid fears that her daughter had died in the flooding in New Orleans that followed the hurricane in August, four-year-old Cortez Stewart was reunited with her family in Texas.

Cortez was the last of the 5,192 Gulf Coast children listed as missing or displaced after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita struck the region. Of those, all but 12 have been found alive and all of those are now back with their parents.

For Lisa Stewart the happy ending came when she was contacted by the National Centre for Missing & Exploited Children that said it had found her daughter. “I was overwhelmed, happy, joyous,” she said.

During their separation her daughter’s fourth birthday had passed last November with no sign that she was dead or alive. “It was devastating,” Mrs Stewart said.

When the storm struck, Cortez was with her godmother, Felicia Williams. After seeking refuge in a hotel, Cortez and Ms Williams were winched to safety by helicopter and flown to Atlanta, Georgia.

Mrs Stewart and her five other children were rescued from their home in New Orleans as the floodwater rose.

They were taken to the nearest piece of dry land, an interstate overpass, where they stayed for four days, before being evacuated and placed in a flat in Houston, Texas. For months Ms Williams and Mrs Stewart tried to make contact, not knowing if the other was alive, but without success. Their efforts were hampered by incorrect name spellings and other misleading information given to government officials.

“Many agencies didn’t have a good account of who they were helping,” Bob O’Brien, director of the centre’s missing children division, said. “More than 411,000 were evacuated to more than 40 states, and it became very hard to track the movement.”

The centre traced information about Ms Williams through her former employer and then located relations in Georgia. When Cortez was reunited with her mother and five siblings last week in Houston, Mrs Stewart almost fell upon her, screaming: “The baby! It’s the baby!”


More than 12,000 adults were reported missing after Katrina. About 1,900 are still missing. More than 1,300 others have been confirmed dead.


Go Obama - go home McCain
My best friend that I was in the Army with 20 years ago just told me that her son went to Kuwait last year, her daughter graduated from high school last year and went straight into the Army and is now in the middle east, and her husband who is a police officer and was in active duty (they met in the army) and the reserves just got called to go over all within the last year. I say Go Obama! We need our troops home in a reasonable time frame. MCain is a war mongerer and will keep this going for the next 100 years (as is his words), and I've heard Hillary is just like McCain and they are on the same team together (what that means I don't know but that's what an article said). I know they are friends and work closely together. So I say please, please, please let Obama win!
I agree! SP needs to be at home with her children!

You CANNOT work a regular fulltime job when your children are small and need you at home, let alone run for VP!!! There is no such thing as, "have it all!" You may THINK you have it all, but if your little ones could talk, they would say that you need to be home with them! They need you! I am so tired of people defending this lady!


She must've had to fly back home and
;D
So, if you knew someone that could build you a home
you wouldn't like that? You're so full of crap!

Of course you would. If I knew a contractor that could help me build a house for less, charge me less and still get the job done, you darn tootin I would.

Stop acting so self-righteous.

Even I got better sense than that. I'm a DEMOCRAT who would love to know someone to help me cut corners to build a nice new home.