She was vetted several months ago, back when she made his short list.

• On CNN this morning, John McCain picked...sm - oldtimer
  • Sure starting to look like she wasn't fully vetted and chosen last minute as a token female...nm - read that 2
    • You obviously have access to the internet... - See message
      • I have been doing research...here's just one of the MANY places I get SOME info...sm - read that 2
        • That's not the reasearch I'm talking about. - See message
        • Doing research at the Huffpost is like... - sm
          • Sure she was fine with you until she wised up - and switched parties. She make valid points..sm
          • I expected that so where do you all get your info...please share so ...sm - read that 2
            • try Media Matters - Sandy
            • meant to say "NOT" the ONLY place I go to..NM - oops
    • It's all in the interpretation. :) nm - sam
      • That's very true - Tired MT
  • apparently - Minos
    • That is if you can believe everything you read on the news. - I sure as heck don't. sm
      • actually - Minos
        • You seem to have your mind made up - and of course...
        • Either side can fail to deliver on promises. My only hope and prayer is that - the new POTUS improves this country. sm
          • Great post - and many excellent points
          • Wow...good post. Lots of valid questions... - sam
            • Your post was also very good. I - Backwards typist
              • well, the one thing that the VP has is... - sam
          • reply - Minos
            • I've looked at Barack's voting record, though, and don't see that. - I wish I did, truly. sm
              • words from your post - Sandy
                • Yes, take those words out of context and use them. Right, no flame whatsoever. - Already said not interested in McCain.sm
                  • i pulled theme - Sandy
            • It seems "Barack" takes credit for a lot and blame for nothing. - POTUS is not listening to "Barack."
              • And you know this how? Cite sources. Give stats. - Status should be recent. sm
                • oil companies - Sandy
                  • May we just keep in mind that these.... - sam
        • Oil companies employ people too... - sam
      • news - Minos
        • Opinions count. Nothing wrong in researching them as long as - Equal time, consideration given to all views. nm
          • No problem with that, as long as opinion is not regarded as fact... - sam
            • Agreed. And when it does mislead - Should be exposed and discounted. nm
              • Agree completely. nm - sam
        • Nice post. Stick to the facts and away from... - sam
        • Oh gee...that sounds like too much - FYI
          • Yep, the above-mentioned was just put on MSNBC. Hardly digging deep for - the news, which was my point. Better sources .. sm
    • If teens don't know how to obtain bc pills in this day--- - They also know how to get abortion if they want on
      • teenagers - Minos
        • Conservatives are for control over their own children and less control by govt - Simple fact - whether sex ed, or whatever.
          • BTW, I have two sons, but I did teach them about sex - and abstinance...sm
        • The left has decided to make it about the teenager... - sam
          • What facts support that the "left" exposed this news as you say? - It was in the media, but where do you..sm
            • Consider this - but do your research
              • Of course, the Hillary blog has the all - What?
                • Sorry, I mistakenly thought we were adult enough - to have a discussion. sm
            • No, not at all...it started on the far left rag... - sam
              • Barack can't control what media says/does with the stories. - That's my point. Don't want to see..sm
                • I did NOT imply that his camp started it.... - sam
              • So you don't think a right-winger - FYI
                • That could happen - but...
                  • Another reason not to watch FOX! LOL - Down with FOX News
                    • You would not want to be silencing the only ... - sam
                • No, I haven't considered it, and the people who own dailykos... - sam
            • apparently - Minos
              • Does the behavior on this board not kinda... - sam
    • With all due respect.... - sam
  • His campaign has released several statements - sm
  • She was vetted several months ago, back when she made his short list. - Talking heads just read what's in front of them
  • Don't believe that. - sam

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Is there a reason why you repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over and over again?  Rehashing the same ridiculous complaints over and over and over and over and over and over again? 

Why don't you post the butt in a chair thing a few more times?  You guys have called us more or less drugged out hippies with references to what we must be smoking, what we must have been doing in the 60s and our hookahs.  You ain't exactly perfect.  Now if I post this paragraph about ten more times you might get the idea, right?

between A.Nonymous and North to Home. 

A.Nonymous made general comments about three groups of people who will still feel entitled to be on the public dole under O’s regime and also said that anybody wanting to get ahead in this country needs to be able to speak standard English and not Ebonics, Spanish, ... etc.

North to Home felt personally attacked, resorted to personal name-calling and hurled accusations such as:  Inflammatory, blatantly racist,  underlying hatred, prejudice and hatred of all people different from you, cowardly, insulting, nasty, racist bigoted rants, sickening, [more bigotry, more hatred, more prejudice, blah, blah, blah.]

I’ve been waiting for others  to weigh in on this but nobody wants to touch it.  It’s a tough job but somebody’s gotta do it.  So I will.

North to Home:  The only one making personal attacks is you.  Toughen up, baby.  To participate on this board you have to develop rhino hide. [No that is not a slur against anybody with African roots.  Don’t start up with me about it.]  This is a place for reasoned political opinion and discussion, not angry overreaction.  Chill.  Don’t post when you are so obviously angry.  Anyone who resorts to name-calling in a political argument needs to work on objectivity.  We argue, we don’t attack.

A.Nonymous: You used the term ‘bitter 200-year descendents of ex-slaves’ and the word Ebonics, both of which got North to Home’s knickers in a twist.  [Not exactly a diplomatic choice of words and by my math only about 144 years since the end of the Civil War.]   But the pertinent word was ‘bitter’.  I agree that those still bitter about slavery after 100+ years and about segregation after 40+ years need to examine their own prejudices, then get on with improving their own lives and their children’s lives.  None of us on this board has ever bought or sold another human being and I am not accepting collective guilt because a centuries-ago ancestor may have. 

North to Home:  You are apparently still angry about your father's treatment while serving in the segregated US military during the Korean War 50 years ago. Yet he was able to bring you up right, educate you and teach you the value of hard work.  Weren't his experiences what made it possible for him to do that? 

The health-care reform debate is in full roar with the arrival of Michael Moore's documentary Sicko, which compares the U.S. system unfavorably with single-payer systems around the world. Critics of the film are quick to trot out a common defense of the American way: For all its problems, they say, U.S. patients at least don't have to endure the endless waits for medical care endemic to government-run systems. The lobbying group America's Health Insurance Plans spells it out in a rebuttal to Sicko: "The American people do not support a government takeover of the entire health-care system because they know that means long waits for rationed care."

In reality, both data and anecdotes show that the American people are already waiting as long or longer than patients living with universal health-care systems. Take Susan M., a 54-year-old human resources executive in New York City. She faithfully makes an appointment for a mammogram every April, knowing the wait will be at least six weeks. She went in for her routine screening at the end of May, then had another because the first wasn't clear. That second X-ray showed an abnormality, and the doctor wanted to perform a needle biopsy, an outpatient procedure. His first available date: mid-August. "I completely freaked out," Susan says. "I couldn't imagine spending the summer with this hanging over my head." After many calls to five different facilities, she found a clinic that agreed to read her existing mammograms on June 25 and promised to schedule a follow-up MRI and biopsy if needed within 10 days. A full month had passed since the first suspicious X-rays. Ultimately, she was told the abnormality was nothing to worry about, but she should have another mammogram in six months. Taking no chances, she made an appointment on the spot. "The system is clearly broken," she laments.

It's not just broken for breast exams. If you find a suspicious-looking mole and want to see a dermatologist, you can expect an average wait of 38 days in the U.S., and up to 73 days if you live in Boston, according to researchers at the University of California at San Francisco who studied the matter. Got a knee injury? A 2004 survey by medical recruitment firm Merritt, Hawkins & Associates found the average time needed to see an orthopedic surgeon ranges from 8 days in Atlanta to 43 days in Los Angeles. Nationwide, the average is 17 days. "Waiting is definitely a problem in the U.S., especially for basic care," says Karen Davis, president of the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund, which studies health-care policy.

All this time spent "queuing," as other nations call it, stems from too much demand and too little supply. Only one-third of U.S. doctors are general practitioners, compared with half in most European countries. On top of that, only 40% of U.S. doctors have arrangements for after-hours care, vs. 75% in the rest of the industrialized world. Consequently, some 26% of U.S. adults in one survey went to an emergency room in the past two years because they couldn't get in to see their regular doctor, a significantly higher rate than in other countries.

There is no systemized collection of data on wait times in the U.S. That makes it difficult to draw comparisons with countries that have national health systems, where wait times are not only tracked but made public. However, a 2005 survey by the Commonwealth Fund of sick adults in six nations found that only 47% of U.S. patients could get a same- or next-day appointment for a medical problem, worse than every other country except Canada.

The Commonwealth survey did find that U.S. patients had the second-shortest wait times if they wished to see a specialist or have nonemergency surgery, such as a hip replacement or cataract operation (Germany, which has national health care, came in first on both measures). But Gerard F. Anderson, a health policy expert at Johns Hopkins University, says doctors in countries where there are lengthy queues for elective surgeries put at-risk patients on the list long before their need is critical. "Their wait might be uncomfortable, but it makes very little clinical difference," he says.

The Commonwealth study did find one area where the U.S. was first by a wide margin: 51% of sick Americans surveyed did not visit a doctor, get a needed test, or fill a prescription within the past two years because of cost. No other country came close.

Few solutions have been proposed for lengthy waits in the U.S., in part, say policy experts, because the problem is rarely acknowledged. But the market is beginning to address the issue with the rise of walk-in medical clinics. Hundreds have sprung up in CVS, Wal-Mart (WMT ), Pathmark, (PTMK ) and other stores—so many that the American Medical Assn. just adopted a resolution urging state and federal agencies to investigate such clinics as a conflict of interest if housed in stores with pharmacies. These retail clinics promise rapid care for minor medical problems, usually getting patients in and out in 30 minutes. The slogan for CVS's Minute Clinics says it all: "You're sick. We're quick."

that endless droning on about supporting the troops.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0129-01.htm

http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/29/542577-the-hell-i-cant-supporting-the-troops-not-the-war

at our current rate of usage - it's basically a drop in the bucket.  And to get all the equipment in place to extract it and refine it would take approximately four years or more.

And that "desolate wasteland" is one of the last pristine areas left in the world.  Does man really have to desecrate every square foot of this earth to satisfy his own greed and consumption?  Guess so.