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She is a nice eloquent lady....until she starts...

Posted By: sam on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: forum - aw

with the "rabid Republicans" type comments. Not necessary to take potshots to impart information. Fact is, I like GP. We are from the same part of the country and have a lot in common, believe it or not.

As to Obama...look. I had concerns about him during the campaign. Those did not just disappear *poof* when he won the election. I still have concerns. I don't trust him. His first choice for his administration did not make any strides toward trust, in fact, made me even more concerned. I asked if the real Barack Obama would step up, and he has. Maybe the next choices will be better. Time will tell.


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Fat lady starts her song!
You know it has to be pretty darned bad when virtually all you see on the left-wing blogs is searing criticism of Democratic congresscritters. And I have to say, I absolutely agree with them. I'm still partial to progressive values but let's face it, elected Democrats are worthless, and have been since 2000, if not long before.

I have to wonder if that's been part of the plan all along, and if there are not much larger forces than the RNC focused on literally destroying America, her political system, her people and her former glory. With Alito's confirmation it's a done deal. The right can yuk it up all it wants and assume a smugness off the scale - but they don't appear to be aware that it's their nation too that is being dismantled. What is their powerful, pushy, money-grubbing and quasi-criminal majority party without a strong minority to watchdog it?

There's only one answer, and it is bad news 99% of the American people.

So let the fat lady sing over America's flag-draped coffin. Enjoy the song, enjoy the carnage, pop the champagne corks - it's all one big party now.


i could have been a bit more eloquent...
LOL i was just exasperated at all the arguing. Everyone has their own opinion and it is definitely okay to disagree and have the discussions, but I think when people start acting like their side has NEVER done anything is just ridiculous. Give Obama a break! what? like you EVER gave Bush a break! And i dont really care about either of them you know. I just can't stand the hypocrisy sometimes. IT goes for the sex scandals too. A republican does it they are the WORST because of their "family values". WHAT? Well what happened to the "tolerance" of the democrats?

it's CRAZY!!! that's why i dont spend much time over here it works me up too much and i want to be happy so i go chat on the gab board :)
That was a very eloquent post. It very clearly
described your angst about voting, and it's what lots of other people feel. It's true, no candidate is perfect, no platform will save the world, or even the country.

Whatever happens, happens, I guess. I only have one vote, and I intend to use it, but in the end the REAL truth is that for all of us regular everyday Joes and Janes, it really won't matter that much who wins...

In the end, we're still totally ON OUR OWN.
There is nothing whatsoever eloquent
You 2 sound like a couple of old bitties. Obama supporters are not a cult. This is what enthusiastic joyful support of a president looks like. Most of us are thanking our lucky stars that the shrub did not manage to snuff that out all together.

I agree with one of the posters below. If you keep on trying to turn hope and change into curse words, you deserve all the misery you apparently are wallowing in and will only succeed in marginalizing yourselves even further. There is nothing you can say or do to stop this train. Time to suck it up and get on with your lives, if you can even remember what that means beyond your uglier than ugly 24/7/365 witch hunt.

Very beautiful and eloquent
What a beautiful picture.
No, Obama is very eloquent.
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When somebody starts regurgitating that
stereotype envisioning Obama supporters as rushing to the mailbox for a welfare/tax stimulus check and waiting around to get their mortgages paid off and gas in their tanks, what color of supporter do you suppose they are conjuring up in their warped delusions?
That was eloquent and I am also PROUD !!! Gobama!
everyone else is sour grapes!

Talk about eloquent...and RIGHT, which are not always the same thing.
That guy has a political future in England, methinks.
here starts the crucifying. You should love her
nm
Where do you see a mistake? His nickname starts with D nm
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Info that starts out with the premise that
Buyer beware.
Aha! SPELLING POLICE starts again!
This is a sign that you feel in the weaker position. It was a TYPO, o.k.!

Everone who starts with grammar and spelling police, insults and bashing admits that he has been cornered and his weakness shows.

Playing grammar- and spelling-police is NOT tolerated on this Forum, read the rules of this forum!

Got it!


One of the most eloquent posts to date! I hope you
everywhere you can, and not the lies that the 'pubs have been throwing around for far too long. The last 8 years have erased any and all hope that I will:
1 - Be able to retire.
2 - Be able to own a home.
3 - Be able to continue to fund my savings or IRA instead of siphoning from them.
4 - Be able to feel any sense of security whatsoever.
5 - Be able to travel any further than the local K-Mart two towns away, and be able to afford much once I get there.
McCain gave an eloquent speech
I felt sad watching his speech. You could tell it is a big dissappointment for him and all conservatives.

His speech was eloquent and sincere.
McCain lost, gave an eloquent
speech and still got to get that last "jab" in.

It is a sad day for a lot of us. Obama won - congratulations. I know his fans are happy. So McCain does not speak as eloquently as Obama. I wouldn't think he would as Obama is a lawyer. But then again I was not voting for someone because of their speaking ability. I was voting for their issues they support.

Obama had none of them (or "it"). Obama's plans are bad for the country, but so many people fell under his spell with his speaking ability.

Tis a sad day for our country when someone is voted first because of their color and second the way they speak and how he convincingly tells you he's going to give all the poor and low income people stuff for free.

Did anyone notice his message in his speech tonight. He's already planting the idea that he's not going to fulfill all the promises he made during his campaign. So time will tell as to when he starts breaking all the promises.
Actually, Obama is NOT "very eloquent" when he tries to speak
Lots of people have noticed this and commented on it. He becomes quite ordinary, hesitant, and as some have said, "professorial".

I'm sure you must have too...or you're simply too bedazzled by pixie dust to notice that Obama is really quite ordinary.
I have a nightmare...ongoing, starts Jan. 20th.....and for the next

Whoohoo - change starts today!
President Obama is already beginning to undo some of the damage Georgie Porgie has done over the last 8 years, and not a moment too soon!
Eloquent post. Many valid reasons why I hope
Some of the sweetest and most devoted couples I know are same-sex. They pay taxes, are all highly educated and make my community a better place. They adore their children, their pets, their friends. To think they're denied the simple right of marriage, is heartbreaking.

Interestingly, I only have only one couple of friends who are married, who are same RACE. All the rest are black & white, white & Asian, Asian & Latino, Filippino and black, etc. I remember back when I was a teen, my parents actually didn't want me hanging out with a certain friend because her parents were a mixed-race couple. They thought it was 'scandalous'.

Well, that has all changed, and you better believe that every vote I cast will hopefully work towards bringing about equality in marriage for ALL couples.
Building of New Trade Center Starts (see article)
Without Fanfare, Building of New Trade Center Starts



By DAVID W. DUNLAP

Published: November 4, 2005


When are they ever going to start building the new World Trade Center?


Yesterday.


Thirty-nine years after the first concrete was poured into the first trench for the first telephone vault for the first trade center, carpenters built a 168-foot-long wooden trough in a gentle S curve through the south tower footprint at ground zero. From this sinuous sprout, Santiago Calatrava's PATH terminal and transportation hub will emerge.



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Carpenters prepared a wooden trough at the World Trade Center site Thursday.


Don't laugh; it's a milestone day, said Charles A. Gargano, vice chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the trade center site and is building the $2.21 billion terminal over the next four years.


Until now, milestones at ground zero have tended to be ceremonial.


There was not a hint of ceremony yesterday. Prince Charles and Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, were nowhere to be seen in the 70-foot-deep pit. The Freedom Tower cornerstone of July 4, 2004, sat hidden under a blue plywood box.


But anyone looking out from a PATH train screeching around the corner into the temporary World Trade Center station would have seen a crew from the Beaver Concrete Construction Company of Brooklyn.


They're finally doing something with this big hole, said Anthony Martelli, one of the workers, standing inside the newly completed trough. It's about time.


It was Mr. Martelli's first day back at ground zero since early 2002, after a six-month tour cleaning up debris and pulling out pieces of steel. Yesterday, he was building again - he and Paul Klein and Frank De Guida and Robert Manella and Tonino Sacino.


Starting at 7 a.m., they built a trough 18 inches high and 6 feet 3 inches wide out of thick wood planks. Cagelike frames of steel reinforcing bars, or rebar, will be set into the trough beginning today. Then concrete will be poured over the rebar.


That will form the footing of a seven-foot-high concrete retaining wall. The wall will hold about four feet of fill, on top of which ballast will be laid for a temporary PATH track, No. 6, alongside the future Platform D, the fourth and westernmost platform.


Currently, there are five tracks among three platforms, two of which occupy a corner of the south tower footprint, as they did in the original station. Platform D would take up more space in the south footprint and a tiny bit of the north footprint.


Once Platform D and Track No. 6 are usable, in early 2007, other tracks can be taken out of service temporarily to allow construction of the permanent terminal while commuters are traveling through the tubes to and from New Jersey.


The construction manager is a joint venture of Parsons Brinckerhoff, which counts the first New York City subway line among its earliest achievements, and the URS Corporation. A general contractor is to be chosen in the next few months.


Icanda was the contractor in 1966 when the first concrete was poured, at West and Cortlandt Streets. John M. Kyle, the chief engineer of the Port Authority, threw in a silver dollar, a 100-lire coin from Italy, a 5-franc coin from France and a British penny.


Asked about the absence of fanfare yesterday, Anthony R. Coscia, the chairman of the Port Authority, said: I think people have become so jaded by the inordinate amount of ceremonies that have occurred at that site - disproportionate to what's actually happened - that I didn't want to add to that. This is about actually building.


There is a potential snag, however. A lawsuit filed last month by the Coalition of 9/11 Families seeks to halt the project on the ground that it violates a federal law requiring that historic sites not be used for transportation projects unless there are no feasible or prudent alternatives.


Anthony Gardner, one of the plaintiffs, whose brother was killed on 9/11, said the authority had never justified the need for Platform D.


Our focus has always been to ensure the maximum preservation and access to the remains of the footprints for the American people and future visitors to the site, Mr. Gardner said yesterday.


The Port Authority and the Federal Transit Administration have yet to answer the complaint, he said. A spokesman for the authority said it would not discuss pending litigation.


But Steven Plate, deputy director of the priority capital programs department, did talk about the authority's sense of stewardship as he inspected the site, pointing out that the tower footprints had been covered by polyethylene liners and 12 inches of stone fill to protect them during construction. We're very committed, personally and professionally, to preserving the site, he said. Eighty-four of our own perished here.


I don't want to sound melodramatic, but there is no monopoly on caring for the site. This is the Port Authority's home.


Bush starts changing his tune/rhetoric.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061112/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq
Glenn Beck starts his new show tonight
I can't wait. I've missed him. Sometimes he makes sense, sometimes he doesn't, but he sure does tell it like it is.
*Heckuvajob Brownie* starts disaster planning firm
Ex-FEMA Head Starts Disaster Planning Firm




Former FEMA Director Michael Brown, heavily criticized for his agency's slow response to Hurricane Katrina, is starting a disaster preparedness consulting firm to help clients avoid the sort of errors that cost him his job.


If I can help people focus on preparedness, how to be better prepared in their homes and better prepared in their businesses — because that goes straight to the bottom line — then I hope I can help the country in some way, Brown told the Rocky Mountain News for its Thursday editions.


Brown said officials need to take inventory of what's going on in a disaster to be able to answer questions to avoid appearing unaware of how serious a situation is.


In the aftermath of the hurricane, critics complained about Brown's lack of formal emergency management experience and e-mails that later surfaced showed him as out of touch with the extent of the devastation.


The lawyer admits that while he was head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency mistakes were made in the response to Katrina. He also said he had been planning to quit before the hurricane hit.


Hurricane Katrina showed how bad disasters can be, and there's an incredible need for individuals and businesses to understand how important preparedness is, he said.


Brown said companies already have expressed interested in his consulting business, Michael D. Brown LLC. He plans to run it from the Boulder area, where he lived before joining the Bush administration in 2001.


I'm doing a lot of good work with some great clients, Brown said. My wife, children and my grandchild still love me. My parents are still proud of me.












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Iraq starts new year with 12 car bombings. US is in trouble, people!
God Help Us All.
lady, get OVER the
obsession with EVIL and read some policy papers or something.
not all all - first lady is not an

elected position.  They basically serve as glorified housewife.  Clinton's experience comes from actual work experience with Nixon impeachment, Children's Defense Fund, and on and on and on.


 


Are you serious, lady?
It's okay because THE TASER WAS TURNED DOWN TO THE TETING SETTING? Shame on you! I hope you don't have any children. If you do, I hope somebody gets them into protective custody and soon!
OT but this lady is hysterical. sm

I found like 9 clips of her and my stomach hurts from laughing so hard.


http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2006/fruitcake-lady-p1.php


 


The LADY has class.
nm
The Church Lady
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wj4tJICcc
I saw her. The lady has guts too!
nm
thought it was first lady's

job to swap baby photos and serve tea to foreign dignitaries - not VP's.


 


Maybe they should investigate this lady
http://www.eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=3269&title=Glenn_Beck__We_the_People_vs__Barney_Frank
Not concerned about lady-like
concerned about being able to eat through the winter :)
If I was Prez or first lady...sm

The way I look at it, the Obamas will have more help taking care of the dog (they can be a lot of work!)  and also, IMHO, the girls are old enough now to have one and learn responsibility. 


Off topic, but if I were in White House, I would follow in Calvin Coolidge's footsteps:  He had 6 dogs, a bobcat, a goose, a donkey, a cat, 2 lion cubs, an antelope, a wallaby and a pygmy hippopotamus.


Dream on, lady.
nm
I used to work with a lady like that. Could never let others be
had to rain on everyone's parade. If someone had just bought a home of their own that they were so proud of, she'd point out that it was in a questionable neighborhood. If you brought in pics of your new grandchild, she'd tell you his ears were asymmetrical. Finally got 'MT-of-the-Month' because you typed the most lines? She'd say it was because you all all the easy dictators that month. Finally buy a new car? She'd insist that it rated lowest on the crash-tests. Just got a facelift, and finally back at work looking 20 years younger? She'd insist she could see the scars.

Pretty sad, huh? Those kinds of people have so little going for them in their lives, that they have to torpedo the happiness of all those around them. And unfortunately, this profession seems to draw that type like flies to road-kill.

Well, no killjoy rightwing biddy is going to spoil this day, and our exciting, YOUNG! new administration for me.

Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning with a better job? No. More money? Nope. But what I AM going to wake up to tomorrow is a President that I can finally be PROUD of again. And it's been far too long in coming.
I used to work with a lady like that. Could never let others be
had to rain on everyone's parade. If someone had just bought a home of their own that they were so proud of, she'd point out that it was in a questionable neighborhood. If you brought in pics of your new grandchild, she'd tell you his ears were asymmetrical. Finally got 'MT-of-the-Month' because you typed the most lines? She'd say it was because you all all the easy dictators that month. Finally buy a new car? She'd insist that it rated lowest on the crash-tests. Just got a facelift, and finally back at work looking 20 years younger? She'd insist she could see the scars.

Pretty sad, huh? Those kinds of people have so little going for them in their lives, that they have to torpedo the happiness of all those around them. And unfortunately, this profession seems to draw that type like flies to road-kill.

Well, no killjoy rightwing biddy is going to spoil this day, and our exciting, YOUNG! new administration for me.

Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning with a better job? No. More money? Nope. But what I AM going to wake up to tomorrow is a President that I can finally be PROUD of again. And it's been far too long in coming.
The Dragon Lady, so I hear sm.
The GOP claims McCain is getting 70% of the Republican vote. That is beyond scary (a nation of sheep). I will wait and see who Dr. Paul endorses, and go with the 30% remaining true conservatives to form our own party. Maybe with a joint effort between independents, greens, constitution and libertarian parties we can get rid of this 2 party monopoly and these neocon cretins.
As the SNL church-lady would say, "Well now...
Not.
dont believe the gray lady -
NYT.  CULT alert.  Only accept information from Faux news as true. 
What a gorgeous folksy lady
I believe this lady is a cutthroat politician. I bet she is aiming for the presidency at some point in her political career.
Please people, vote with your wallet in mind. People with no money have a small voice.
Just saw a lady on tv admitting to be with ACORN
nm
Give the lady her prize, She got the-----
Congratulations! One box of brand new light bulbs will be coming your way.
Do looks really mean this much to you, I remember a grand lady, not much to look at but OMG

The woman was Eleanor Roosevelt. To say she was nothing to look at was an understatement. Very homely looking but what she accomplished which made me think of her when others are talking about looks. Do looks matter- what about a person's soul and heart- does that not count for anything now?


My stepmom worked in Washington during WWII. She saw Eleanor Roosevelt several times. She told me about how Mrs. Roosevelt would board a pubic bus and say hello to the people sitting there, not pretentious at all. I remember her later when she was working at the United Nations as a delegate. She became one of the greatest women of the 20th Century.  She was an humanitarian and civic leader (among other roles). She worked for the welfare of youth, black Americans, the poor, and women, at home and abroad. She persuaded her husband to create NYA which gave financial aid to students and young people. She worked closely with the NAACP. She visited the troops overseas during WWII.  She was a leader in human right efforts.  What she may have lacked in looks she certainly made up for it in her good deeds.


didn't like either first lady's outfit
However, I think the outfits looked nice on them, I just didn't like them. But it's rare that I like such formal "older" outfits.

but they briefly showed Cindy McCain and I liked hers.. she seems to fit her clothes pretty well.


Very beautiful, very classy lady. (nm)

The lady from Africa should go back there......
It doesn't say if the lady from Africa is a "legal" citizen or just here on a Visa but either way, the hospital administrators should be ashamed of themselves for letting this one person dictate NO patriotism toward ones own country!!!

That lady have every right showing a flag in her office; the American flag is a symbol of this country, its freedoms, all it stands for. The lady from Africa obviously needs to go back to Africa and stay there. She has no patriotism to this country, just here to work like so many others, without an ounce of care for this country at all, except to make a buck.

We have a serious problem in this country when anyone asks anyone else to take down an American flag!!!
small message, church lady...
The most significant thing to me in the entire video is "Vote your conscience." That speaks volumes.
He also had time to meet with Lady de Rothschild...sm
Oh yes. He urgently had to get to Washington to work on the financial crisis! Riiiiightt! -

>> You remember her, the lady who called blue collar voters "rednecks." McCain thought meeting a beautiful filthy rich member of royalty was more important than focusing on the economy today. Yet he now suddenly wants to cancel everything to focus on the economy. >>