She has more executive experience than the #1 candidate on the other ticket...
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-29
In Reply to: Qualified to lead the country? How? - Please explain. nm
she is, in fact, the only one of the 4 who has executive experience. SHE is not running for President. Obama IS. You decide where you would rather have limited experience, the #1 seat or the #2 seat. But of course i know the answer. ITs ok if he doesn't have any executive experience...after all, he has biden to fall back on, right?
As far as John McCain...he has more years of experience as a senator than Obama, he has years more experience in foreign policy than Obama, he does not bow to the Republican Party, Obama does bow to the Democratic party, McCain has bucked the Republican Party, Obama has never and I would guess will never buck the Democratic party, it is clear his first allegiance is there. Both McCain and Palin have demonstrated that their first allegiance is to the American people. She has an 80% favorability rating in Alaska...I am relatively sure 90% of Alaska is not Republican. Obama has never had an 80% rating...well except from NARAL, who gave him 100%. For me, McCain is more experienced and I want someone who is interested in what is best for me, not what is best for his political career and his all-important party.
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She's the only one of the four with executive experience
Obama has little experience even as a legislator, but you believe this smart woman with executive leadership experience is less qualified to be president should it come to that? No, I don't think so.
She already has more executive experience than your guy...
and he is 1st chair. All those negatives you posted are positives for a lot of people. THe state ethics committee investigation is not over yet, and frankly, a state trooper who tasers an 11-year-old (oh he asked me to) SHOULD be fired in my humble opinion. And a state trooper who threatens the life of his estranged wife and her parents should not be wearing the uniform of a state trooper. But that is just me, I guess.
I am sure the people of Alaska are thrilled to hear that the Democrat supporters of Obama are marginalizing them into nothing because they have smaller population than Austin, Texas.
All this kind of post does is show how petty, vindictive and mean people can get when their backs are up against the wall and they think they might lose.
The DNC should have thought about all this before they took on the Clintons. Howard Dean messed up big time.
Executive experience is a big zero
You showed up late today so rather than repeating everything that has already been said on this imponent executive experience media mantra thing, please catch up on your reading. Also, the issue of her not running has been exercised in light of the very real possibility that she would be positioned to take over sooner rather than later. Besides, the Bimbos Unite! cult sure seems to think she is running for president. You will notice just how absent McCain has been from the spotlight since yesterday morning. The notion that our party is somehow fractured or not strongly unified is more of your delusional thinking. McCain took care of that when he decided to insult most of thinking women in this country by selecting a token female he met once to save his sinking ship. Strategy is lame, transparent and has actually created an angry backlash from Hillary supporters and women in general that will make Hurricane Gustav look like a a flushing toilet. You got no idea what you are talking about when you try to analyze the democratic party but please do us all a favor and continue to feed your delusions. theonly thing that's going to come back and bite bigtime is what's-her-name calling Hillary a whiner and McCain calling US economic refugees whiners. We do agree on one thing here. Sweeeeet!
You must have EXECUTIVE experience
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Obama's take on his own executive experience...
Obama: Running campaign counts as executive experience
Tuesday September 2, 2008
Talk about resume padding! He compares his experience running a campaign (which, btw should come as a surprise to his campaign manager) with her experience as mayor and totally ignores her experience as governor and Cooper lets him get away with it.
COOPER: And, Senator Obama, my final question -- your -- some of your Republican critics have said you don't have the experience to handle a situation like this. They in fact have said that Governor Palin has more executive experience, as mayor of a small town and as governor of a big state of Alaska.
What's your response?
OBAMA: Well, you know, my understanding is, is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We have got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year.
You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month.
So, I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute, I think, has been made clear over the last couple of years. And, certainly, in terms of the legislation that I passed just dealing with this issue post-Katrina of how we handle emergency management, the fact that many of my recommendations were adopted and are being put in place as we speak, I think, indicates the degree to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service that the American people expect.
Maybe he should practice this response a little more before he plants it with another reporter.
BTW, Hot Air has the unedited transcript if you are interested in how he really sounded when he answered the question. He is quite liberal in his use of "uh." For someone with a reputation of being articulate, he sure uses a lot of them.
Update: Here's the McCain campaign's response:
"For Barack Obama to argue that he's experienced enough to be president because he's running for president is desperate circular logic and it's laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama's inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin's executive experience managing a budget of over 10 billion dollar dollars, and more than 24,000 employees." --Tucker Bounds, spokesman John McCain 2008
McCain has no EXECUTIVE experience
"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility," said Clark,
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/index.html
She does have more executive experience than McCain has...
McCain has no executive experience. None of them but Palin do. McCain does have more experience in the Senate and with foreign affairs, the military, et al, than Obama has. Much more. Those are the two running against each other. Joe Biden also has more experience than Obama has. Obama has the least experience of the 4. Obama has been a state senator and has spent most of his US senate career running for President. He is the least experienced of the 4, and he will be in the chair day 1. I don't feel real good about that possibility, especially in the war on terror. I really don't think he gets it. Talking to O'reilly about radical islam he kept saying something about factions, and you have to figure out what faction you are dealing with...that is talking like a senator. Have a committee and discuss it for 6 months. We can't afford that, in my opinion. I agree with Biden, and I don't mean to make fun, I'm serious...he is not ready for the job, IMO. That is one reason I am not voting for Obama.
Very funny. NOT! Executive experience!
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Executive experience = running a government...
McCain hasn't, Obama hasn't, Biden hasn't. She HAS. Bill Clinton had only been a governor before he was elected President. Double standard alive and well on the left?? Of course it is.
But the fact remains...she has more executive experience than your #1 guy.
That is indisputable. In fact, more than her running mate and your #2. To say she is inexperienced only shines the same light on Barack Obama. That is not a slam, it is a fact.
Yeah, Obama's executive experience
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JOHN MCCAIN HAS HAD NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE
"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility," said Clark, a former NATO commander who campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004.
(Ret) General Wesley Clark
"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility," said Clark, a former NATO commander who campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004.
"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility," said Clark,
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/index.html
Executive experience media mantra no answer.
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I think that would be a dream ticket
but I don't know if they could get along after all of the nasty things they said about each other. Or at least, what Bill has said about Obama
That's the ticket, Kaydia! sm
Another helpful hint. When you want to catch the news, and especially political news, look at Yahoo Headline News or any other site that has the days headlines. You get the news minus the talking heads! I actually enjoy politics. What I don't enjoy are the commentators going on an on with their own spin about events. I watched a couple of primary races over the last couple of months on CNN and after a couple of hours I thought I would lose my mind! One guy must have said "lunch bucket blue collar worker" at least 25 times in 2 hours, and others all giving their insight on what was going on, what the outcomes would be, and laughingly after the results came in not one of them was correct. Now, I just click on internet headline news, get the latest minus the comments and use the television for other things like movies or cooking shows, QVC, anything but news!
Many hoped for her to be on the ticket
Sarah Palin's name has been discussed many times, but don't look to the regular news stations to hear about her. I selected her as my first choice for VP prior to this in an on-line poll.
I'm glad that some people will listen to what the woman has done and also offers before criticizing. Actually, she's accomplished more on paper than Obama has. Do a side-by-side comparison. And be prepared for all the DNC talking points, as you'll hear all of them on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, etc. Then come back here and tell me I'm wrong about what these organizations say.
The DNC had first dibs at putting a woman on their ticket, so don't blame the RNC.
One last thing: She's not the insider politician that Obama claims to not be as he (selected) an insider for 30 years for his VP. The facts speak for themselves. I need no talking points, nor does the RNC.
Wish it was a Thompson/Palin ticket
That would rock! Also glad to know I was listening to Fox last night so I guess I heard the whole thing.
Thompson gave an excellent speech. I do have more respect for McCain since hearing Thompson. Guess I should read JM's story before making any judgements - sorry folks its the liberal tendencies in me to judge people before I research and learn about them. But as they say... "I have seen the errors of my ways" and now will read before spewing.
If you really wanted to you would have put Clinton on the ticket.
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McCain/Palin is my ticket
Isn't anybody on our board a Republican besides me?  I'm disappointed that McCain didn't start getting tough earlier in his campaign. He doesn't have the charisma and speaking style that Obama has, but I believe that he has what it takes to lead our country. I also think President Bush has done an excellent job.
Agree and believe republican ticket will be McCain and
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McCain's fundraiser on Monday was $50K a ticket . . .
for a measly buffet dinner. At least the dems got Barbra at a bargain price of $30K comparatively.
If the McCain-Palin ticket wins...sm
the actuarial tables say McCain has 1 in 5 chance of dying in office and Palin becoming president. Oh, no, Mr. Bill ! !
John & Sarah - "Dream Ticket"
Take a 2nd look. She has more executive
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I tell you, I didn't know that Pat Robertson tried to get on the republican ticket in 1988...sm
and I was enjoying the 700 club last year. They have some good Christian stories on there and motivational things that I actually liked. That was until one day Pat started talking politics and throwing his opinions around as if they were God's. That show hasn't gotten a rating point from me since then. He's definitely a radical in my book.
Even Geraldine Ferraro seemed happy about a female on the ticket!
She's a major democrat and still ticked at how HC was treated by her own party.
If the McCain/Palin ticket has any chance of winning...sm
the election, they need to about face, stop the negativity, stop talking about Obama, and tell the American people how life would be better if he were elected president. If he doesn't, he does not have a chance. John McCain needs to stop pandering to the religious right and go back to the maverick that he used to be, representing middle America.
What makes you think Colin Powell would want to be on the McCain ticket?
Colin Powell decided not to run for President of the United States several years ago. Why on earth would he accept an offer to run for Vice President on the McCain ticket? In addition, Powell has adamantly denounced the despicable smear tactics used by the McCain campaign recently.
I find it laughable how quickly the right-wing wackos turn against anyone who makes an educated decision to support Obama.
Same reasons I pulled straight democrat ticket.
make it through the House and Senate. No more shrub veto.
Executive travel
Executives who travel for business on private jets may actually be doing something line buy or sell a product, bring in revenue, broker a deal that will create jobs.
Politicians traveling that way are mostly being seen. Example: Was it truly necessary for O to fly to the Southwest just to sign a bill and stand in front of some solar panels? He doesn't have pens in the oval office? Does Pelosi really rate a government plane to get her back and forth to California? Not sure if she actually got the privilege, but know she requested it because she is sooooo important to the nation, being assistant president and all, that she has to travel efficiently.
Before you jump all over me with 'Bush did....' yes, I know, they ALL get face time this way. That was then, this is now. If we're supposed to be going 'green' how about cutting out politicians' needless self-promoting travel on our dime?
Obama/Biden ticket wins, more dems elected to congress...sm
and something will FINALLY get done.
Excuse me....the Presidency is an executive position...
Palin is the only one of the four who has executive appearance. She is as ready to lead right now as Obama is. Obama has zero international experience other than one trip to talk to the Germans in a political speech.
And I would think the fact that your #1 has less experience than McCain's #2 you would stay away from the experience thing...?
He picked her because she shares his ideals..wants change in washington. Obama wants that too. McCain picked a REAL Washington outsider. Obama didn't. Soooo..they are saying some of the same things Obama is saying, but when Obama says it is good, when they say it, it is bad?
Hello President McCain, and VP Palin!
Bush creates executive pay loophole.
Right up until the end, Bush is working hard for his "base." I can't wait to see this man leave -- if he leaves. 
Bush Administration created executive pay loophole
John Byrne
Published: Monday December 15, 2008 |
The Bush Administration inserted an eleventh-hour provision into the $750 billion bailout bill to protect executive bonuses, a single sentence that will torpedo efforts to reduce bonuses even as companies slash tens of thousands of jobs and use taxpayer money to gobble up other companies at fire-sale prices.
Pressured by constituents who worried that companies would take government aid and continue to pay their executives eye-popping bonuses, Congress inserted a provision that would penalize companies who took taxpayer money and shelled out outsized bonuses.
But at the last minute, Bush officials insisted on a one-sentence provision that stopped the measure in its tracks, according to congressional aides who spoke to the Washington Post.
The change stipulated that the sanction would only apply to firms that sold mortgage backed securities to the government at auction, which the Bush Treasury Department said would be the method they'd use to infuse troubled companies with bailout cash.
"Now, however, the small change looks more like a giant loophole, according to lawmakers and legal experts" who spoke to Post reporter Amit Paley. "In a reversal, the Bush administration has not used auctions for any of the $335 billion committed so far from the rescue package, nor does it plan to use them in the future. Lawmakers and legal experts say the change has effectively repealed the only enforcement mechanism in the law dealing with lavish pay for top executives."
"The flimsy executive-compensation restrictions in the original bill are now all but gone," Sen. Charles Grassley, a Republican from Iowa and ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, told Paley.
According to Paley, "The final legislation contained unprecedented restrictions on executive compensation for firms accepting money from the bailout fund. The rules limited incentives that encourage top executives to take excessive risks, provided for the recovery of bonuses based on earnings that never materialize and prohibited 'golden parachute' severance pay. But several analysts said that perhaps the most effective provision was the ban on companies deducting more than $500,000 a year from their taxable income for compensation paid to their top five executives."
This amendment to the Internal Revenue Code was the only part of the bailout measure that had an explicit enforcement mechanism.
Bush officials initially opposed executive compensation rules. Banks, in particular, had been taking heat for "golden parachute" cases, where top executives received lavish pay upon their departure even if they'd done a poor job leading their company.
It remains unclear whether the Administration ever intended to limit executive pay -- if perhaps they knew in advance that Treasury didn't intend to buy mortgage assets at auction all along -- as they'd told Congress.
Words in the form of an executive order
If you are content to subscribe in all this voodoo spell casting and foreboding pronouncements to nowhere, be my guest. I prefer to stay grounded in the reality of the moment and give time for the plan to unfold.
Executive power survey by presidential candidates.
In case you haven't seen this article, I am posting the link:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/12/22/candidates_on_executive_power_a_full_spectrum/?page=2
This is very enlightening for those who want to know their candidates thoughts about executive power.
She has 12 months in an executive position, actually running a government...
Obama does not. She is going to be 2nd chair, not 1st. If either of them is going to be training on the job, better it be 2nd chair. She also served as mayor, which is also executive work. She has more experience to be President now (and that is not the position she is running for) than he does. Just fact, based entirely on experience. And the only reason I posted that at all is that is the first criticism of her that surfaced here. Personally, with Obama's limited experience going into the first chair, not the second chair...I would think his campaign and his followers would want the conversation to avoid that...that make an issue of it. Just an observation.
Obama had no trouble signing 5 executive orders
if he is so opposed to bombing Pakistan, why did he give the order to do so? US drones bombing Pakistan. He is now in charge.....Bush can't call those shots.
Like I said, as long as Dems are in control, they suddenly have no problem with bombing ANYONE......just goes to show you what they will be doing to this country........just bend over and take it like a good little girl
Fact remains, she has made executive decisions for a year and a half...
as governor, and before that as a mayor. He has made none. Zero, zilch, nada. The only time she will "legislate" is if she has to vote to break a tie Not hardly the same thing as running a state...or a country.
Each candidate has to have a
minimum of 15% in the opinion polls to be invited to participate in the presidential debate. That is why it is usually just the republican nominee and democratic nominee. I don't know that I agree with this, but if you actually look at ALL the candidates....you have so many parties who nominate a runner and most of the time you don't even hear about them. We have Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Barry Obama, McCain and that doesn't include the green party, etc. If they just automatically included all of them in the debate......we wouldn't get anywhere.
Yea, that's it....he's the best candidate... we all know
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another candidate
If we could get the parties (I'm also one of those not to thrilled by either candidate) to come together and choose ANOTHER candidate and vote him in we may seem some change. As it stands now, I feel like Obama is the kid running for class president in high school promising the extra days off and more soda machines and when he wins (because he's cute and popular) he won't be able to deliver. Mccain on the other hand, I believe he will try and make some changes, but he isn't going to completely revamp Washington, which is basically what we need.
We need someone who can go in with NO ties, not owing anything to anyone, and who will throw out all the dirty crooks in the congress. A no-name guy (or girl!) who is middle to lower class, smart, and bipartisan. Who has no agenda other than to fix what is wrong. I don't believe anyone can say that either of these candidates is like that.
Obama owes some people for getting where he has gotten. NO ONE climbs the ladder that quickly without a little help. And Mccain, well he's frugal, and he may not make enough change for us down here on the ladder to see the difference. And I'm sure he has people and interest groups he is particular to also.
But, instead of us all getting out, banding together, and trying to make some real change in Washington, we will just sit back and let it be politics as usual. The fact is, America is to lazy to do anything but whine and complain about how bad we've got it. But we sure aren't going to get up and fix it!
We are slowly imploding on ourselves and we don't even realize it. We look at third world countries and think "that can never happen to us" but it can and more than likely will if we continue down this road of overspending and living by the moment.
He's VP candidate.
That's why the hoopla. Sen. Biden may have had some health issues, but he's the VP (could possibly need to step in), but Obama is young, healthy, good looking, and seems popular amongst the voters who do want to see change, and not the same old grampa running our country into the ground with the "rich" buddies getting richer.
Biden had a problem with stuttering. I'd much rather have Biden misspeak and accept his experience on foreign policy (especially as an MT and what we deal with) then Palin who has no idea what she's doing being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
Get it now?
Yes, because he is the only candidate
and we are all fellow prisoners.
Who is your top democratic candidate?
Barack Obama is who I am rooting for, but I'd like to know what democrats are thinking about the other candidates.
No enthusiasm for their candidate. sm
I am not an Obama supporter, but go ahead and post what you like about him. I am conservative, but find McCain as the nominee unacceptable.
Could it be that Candidate #5's "emissary"
was one who was bugged? Has anybody heard anything about who blew the whistle on the senate seat sale?
What does it say about a candidate's character
1. Dumps his crippled wife and mother of his children to have affair with wealthy heiress, then turns around to apply for marriage license before his divorce is final.
2. Calls his wife C-word.
3. While speaking at a biker's rally, volunteers his wife as a contestant in the "Miss Buffalo Chips" topless modeling contest, including it's legendary banana competition.
4. Tries to blame his wife for the Keating 5 scandal when it becomes public.
5. Screams at and thoroughly humiliates a young pub volunteer who set up his podium at a rally.
6. Jokes about ape rape and killing off Iranians with cigarettes and "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb."
7. Describes Arizona's elderly as "seizure world."
8. Throws temper tantrums, punctuated with the casual use of the F-word.
9. Calls fellow senators Aholes and sh-heads.
10. Ignites a culture war to get elected.
11. Questions the patriotism of his opponent and fails to renounce his supporters who question his faith, endlessly insinuate he lies about it and portray his wife as a militant with hidden agendas to stage a socialist/Black Power takeover of the country.
12. Embraces endorsement from a pastor who disparages Catholics, women, African Americans, Muslims and LGBT Americans, believes that Hurricane Katrina was punishment from God because "New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God," announced a "slave sale" at the church to raise funds and believes that "the coming nuclear showdown with Iran is a certainty,"
13. Overlooks the Bush-Rove campaign strategy of unleashing a landslide of racist attacks on him, including calling his own daughter an illegitimate half-black love child, turns around in 2004 to campaign for W's second term, throughout it all supported 9 out of 10 of his disastrous policies that has brought the nation to it knees and then embraces Rove as senior campaign adviser in 2008.
14. Stood silently by while fellow war hero/veteran John Kerry was swift-boated without mercy.
Before any rebuttal ensues that would seek to deny, dodge and deflect, keep in mind that character assassination has been a benchmark of JM's campaign and of his supporters, so no whining allowed. Finally, this is legitimate inquiry, given that 90% is striving so diligently not to be 90% and has hawked character as his main qualification for presidential leadership.
You know your candidate....look up his earmarks...
A million to the hospital his wife works for after they nearly doubled her salary. Yep, he is against those pesky earmarks. The bridge to nowhere was a huge one. He is Washington politics as usual. There is no change there.
Yes, he is careful with his votes. Voted against the Infants Born Alive act twice. Managed, with the 130 presents, to show up for what was important to him..denying medical care for an infant who managed to survive an abortion. yeah, there's something to be real proud of.
New VP candidate allowed to appear
for 30 seconds - no talking - for news cameras with world leaders. Now, let's hear you say she doesn't have any foreign experience -- here look at this picture.
What possible write-in candidate has all the necessary
exists, then why were they not nominated?
Whatever. But I think your candidate was losing
Sometimes he actually looked a little confused. Petit mal, perhaps?
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