Shame on you. I am a Christian for Obama and...sm
Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-09-17
In Reply to: Whoops....A person....not I person. - Chele
would be happy to have a button or a bumper sticker saying so! What is your problem? The republicans mus think that only non Christians are for Obama. That is VERY far from the truth. McCain could put out a bumper sticker that said space aliens for McCain and you would think that is fine.
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Are you seriously calling OBAMA a terrorist? shame on you and ... unAmerican, unpatriotic!
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Shame on those who perpetrated this crime and shame on you....am
....for posting a link. I for one, will not be going to "gawk" at the governor's personal life that has been hijacked by extremists.
Heartless people, that's what YOU are! Shame, shame ! nm
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Oh please, Obama Christian?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn-P3yAaAqI
Obama mocks the Bible. No christian would mock Sermon on the Mount.
Wolf in sheep's clothing. BEWARE, VERY DISTURBING. Take it with a grain of salt. Talks about the future mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0&feature=related
Obama professes to be a Christian and...
Joe Biden is a practicing catholic...McCain goes to a Baptist Church and Palin an interdenominational one...so no matter who is elected, there is going to be religion in the White House. I would venture a guess that the majority of congress also religious...Pelosi is a practicing Catholic, all the Kennedys are Catholics...
Obama professes to be Christian...
would not classify him as meek.
I do not understand this out of control hatred for someone just because she does not share your view of the world. Where does that come from?
Geez. People in Alaska afraid of her because people lost their jobs? How is she going to track people down from an anonymous poll and fire them? That makes absolutely no sense...and since all of Alaska does not work for the state, that would be difficult at best.
Sigh.
Obama has said several times that he was a Christian...
but of course, that always came on the heels of being accused of being Muslim. He plays the religion card when it suits him.
Obama has repeatedly described himself as a Christian.
I'm going to take him at his word, not that it matters much to me which religion he practices. What matters to me is his character, and I'd put that way above some that I've witnessed on this board.
America is NOT "only" a Christian nation any longer. America promises freedom of religion for EVERYONE, not just Christians.
Do YOU stone your children for straying?
How about slavery? (My guess is you're in favor of that one.)
He was just pointing out that sometimes literal translations of the Bible aren't applicable. In other words, he made sense. 
And Obama chose to be Christian,
is he's not trying to push his religion down everyone else's unwilling throats.
You want to be in everyone's bedrooms, whether it's for gay marriage, birth control, abortion, etc.
You want everyone to walk in lock step with you on social issues, and this is exactly why the Republicans are in the toilet. Americans want to choose their own paths and not have these things forced upon us by a group that claims that only THEY hold the exclusive keys to heaven.
By the way, did you know that Muslims believe that Jesus was a messenger from God (via virginal conception) who had been sent to guide the children of Israel??
I think that Obama sees himself as Christian, but
the Muslins see him as Muslim because his father is Muslim.
If O stays silent, believe me, it is not because he takes sides, it is because now it is better to be cautious than confrontational.
If O is a powerless puppet why do you then constantly put him down and criticize him?
Since Kennedy all president are puppets pulled by very elite people, true. And these elite people picked Obama as winner soon after he declared himself a candidate, because he is so charismatic, similar to Kennedy (I heard this also in this video 'The Obama Deception'), true.
Amd yes, the Iranian people are screwed, also true.
But believe me, Obama, puppet or no puppet, till now proved himself to be a very good diplomat.
I am much more interested in the foreign politics than in the domestic stuff, that's boring.
Fine, Obama is Christian -my question is
Why did he stay with a church for 20 years that spewed hatred for the USA and was racist as well? Rev. Wright..... you have seen the tapes? When asked, Obama denies he witnessed the Rev. speaking this way..and if he had, he would have left the church before. Do you actually believe that? I mean, come on! The two of them were very close, admittedly so. Sometimes, you are judged by the company you keep and the friends that surround you. You may not think that is fair, but I have a right to feel this way.... and I do! I myself have NEVER claimed Obama is a Muslim. I don't go with rumors, but I can't ignore what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears.
Obama is a CHRISTIAN. He supports equal rights...sm
for all people including gay people. I think that the radical Christian right are the gay haters.
I have lots of Christian friends who are democrats and support Obama. nm
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Just participating in a Christian church does not make you a Christian (sm)
Everyone who goes to a Christian church is not automatically a Christian. Only God knows if you truly are or not. He could easily still have Muslim values and attend a Christian church. Does he? I have NO IDEA. I really don't know. What I DO KNOW is that the Christian church he attended did not teach what God wants to be taught. I know that from the Bible because we are not supposed to preach hate or damnation, yet that is what his minister preached, LOUDLY.
.Sure, O is Christian. His mother was Christian
his father Muslim. In Indonesia, where O spent 4 years, age 7 to 11, he attended a catholic school and received outside the school Islamic teachings.
When he was 12 his mother took him back to the US into the care of her mother and the rest is history......
It is a d*** shame.
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Shame on you
Shame on you Army Mom for wanting your child to be in harms way over an unnecessary criminal war..Shame on YOU
Shame on you
Do you know *any* of the 9/11 widows? What would *you* be doing if your loved one had been murdered as theirs were in this manner? Take the goverment payoff to sit down and shut up? Or would you stand up to the collosal cover-up of the events of that infamous day and demand answers?
There is only *one* person looking to clean up here - and that would be the shrew bitch who makes a living mining the apparently endless wells of hate of her followers.
She deserves not to be mentioned and certainly never to be given free air time.
The widows, at the very least, deserve the benefit of the freaking doubt!
The shame should go to
you people on both sides who can't even see how ignorant you sound. On the one hand you call Obama a terrorist because McCain's campaign has accused him of such. On the other hand you absolve Palin of any wrong doing. I don't KNOW if Obama associates with terrorists. I expect he does associate with shady characters of some kind. I expect Palin is guilty as charged but I don't know this. Unless you live in Alaska and followed this story BEFORE she became the VP nominee, you don't KNOW either.
The shame goes to you people who can only see 2 colors....blue and red!!!! Never mind what is behind door #1 or door #2. It is you people who have elected the dirtbags that are running this country and you're fixin' to do it again. YOU have helped to bring this great country to it's knees and it isn't even on its' knees yet!!!!
I support LOU DOBBS FOR PRESIDENT.
Yes he did and more shame upon him! n/m
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well then shame on us
for being that way. Too bad they couldn't fix it to where you couldn't physically see the candidates but could just hear them speak. If we were blind to their appearance and color, maybe we could make a better judgment call.
It is a shame that all you have to do is
ignored so you can make more hateful jabs. As far as being here in the real world, honey, you don't even have a clue! It is so comical listening to you make a fool of yourself here trying to show us how intelligent and intellectuant you are and what small little peons we are because we do not accept your opinions. Why would someone of your caliber even need the MT world? Can't even be just for the pleasure any more, there is none there now, just work for a living. This poster's opinions are just as valuable as yours. Anyway, you're funny, but you're no more intelligent than anyone else here.
They have no shame
I already know the O worshipper and lovers are going to cut down the article, so I really don't care what they think. But for those interested who have an open mind and willing to read and listen to everything here is a good article. All the rest say what you want, I don't care.
I was also just going to cut and past the article here because of course the O worshippers will come back with a lame excuse about who wrote the article, but I'm at a point now that I don't care either. It's an important article for all those who want to know the truth.
http://www.rense.com/general84/has.htm
Shame
It's you who has no shame.
Gimme A Break.
No, shame on you
For loving him with your eyes closed.
What a shame for someone's whole
wasted due to being consumed with such bitterness and hatred. And to try and blame the entire world's conditions on 2 people. What patriotism!
Shame On You!!!!!!!
You are the perfect example of the "ugly" "slime" you're wailing against.
Posting something like, "I just fear that someone who believes just like the anti-Americans on this board will actually penetrate one of those lines and kill him, for the good of the country. Maybe Bush is counting (planning?) for that to happen."
Get a life and stop fantasizing about secret plots to overthrow your beloved one. Posting that same, tired, worn-out line of BS is hate-mongering, plain and simple.
You say you're leaving for a month? I doubt it. But good riddance if you do. You surely will NOT be missed.
It's a shame....
you can't post a coherent message without attacking someone. Where did all that money go under Ws watch? Am I calling you a c*ks*kng conservative? A bible banging religious whackjob who's venom and hate has consumed their brain cells? Maybe if you grew up and could tie your own shoes, you wouldn't have to resort to schoolyard bullying.
Shame, shame, shame.
On every member of Congress that allowed this porkulus package to go through. Even Joe Biden said there's a 30% chance things could go wrong and that's if they do everything right, which there's very little about this package that's right. Sorry, but in a year's time when none of this works and unemployment is still climbing, how much better off will we be?
No shame on YOU!!!!
How soon you forget about the Word Trade Center getting hit when Clinton was in...USS Cole, the war in Kosovo, Somali, Waco, Oklahoma, etc.
Shame on you for blaming Bush for stuff and not looking back at the atrosities (sp?) Clinton did under his watch.
You know what is a shame?
That all the serial killers moms didn't have an abortion.
I think that it is a shame that
Christian schools should cover up any religious symbols for any speaker. If that speaker doesn't want the symbols there, they shouldn't speak at a Christian school. Simple as that.
For Obama to be a "Christian" and do nothing but appeal solely to the far-left by his views on abortion and now the covering of religious symbols......it just really sad the way our country is heading. You can't even talk about your religious beliefs anymore without being ridiculed and basically told to shut up.
SHAME . . . n/m
BIBLE
Bible
I think it is a shame that
the news media isn't covering some of this stuff. It seems like the media is spoon feeding us without reporting on some very important issues. It is like they want us distracted so we don't see what is really going on.
Just like ACORN....I've been watching when I can and it does amaze me that so much money goes to them and we have no idea where that money goes or about the guy who embezzled 1 million dollars from ACORN and was never prosecuted. I wasn't surprised that they denied O'Reilly the right to look at their books. If they had nothing to hide, they wouldn't have a problem with it. ACORN is fishy. They have bullied people and, like you said, are being investigated by many states now. This is my problem with ACORN....what right does the government have to take MY money and give to an organization like ACORN to pass out to democratic candidates for their campaigns. That is what burns my butt.
We did talk a bit about Sotamayor below. I really don't like the idea that she threw out those tests taken by those firefighters. I just do not see how that test was unfair to minorities since they were all given the same study material and the same amount of time to study. To me....that is racism. She may be able to bring some good things to her position being a latina woman but for her to say that she will make BETTER decisions than a white man because she is a latina woman.....to me that is racist and I do not like it. If a white man had said anything similar, they would have been asked to step down and their career would have been over.
As for N. Korea....I am terrified.....I gotta be honest here. I had a friend of mine in high school who was a foreign exchange student from S. Korea and I often worry about her and wonder how she is especially now with what is going on. I really don't have the answer for this either. We already are spread thin with being in Iraq and Afghan. I'm also sick and tired of the US standing up and being the "bad guys." Why can't the UN do something for once? Why can't other countries stand up and say.....N. Korea...enough is enough. This is one reason why I feel Obama was a bad pick for our country. He has done nothing but apologize and try to appease other countries and personally I feel that it makes him look weak and it has made us look weak.
As for talking about freedom.....I think that is a big issue because so many feel that we are losing our freedom. The government is taking over everything it seems. First the banks and now the auto industry. Government keeps spending and spending. I just can't help but think that our freedoms will be taken away more and more over a period of time.
As for CA....the voters voted and I think it is a shame that this should be taken to the supreme court. This was voted on....gay people lost....get over it. Obviously the majority has a problem with gay marriage or gay marriage would be okay in CA. We haven't heard the end of this. The gay community won't stop until they get what they want. I've come to the conclusion that I feel that all "marriage" should be considered a civil union and marriages should be between believers and their churches. This way the sacred meaning of marriage can be kept for us believers while all non-believers and gay people can have civil unions. To me this will be the only way to make the majority of people happy.
I hope I didn't miss anything. I'm trying to remember everything you brought up.
It's a shame you feel that way.
I don't think it does you or the rest of world any good.
Just my opinion. I will not be debating with you or posting to you again.
Shame on you for denying someone else
their freedom of speech. As bad as you HATE it you people don't speak for everybody...
Shame on you....as been debunked.
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/
And shame on you for ignoring the
fact that while, yes, while these groups are based in hatred and bigotry, don't be so naive to think they won't ingest all the viciousness and hate-mongering coming from a previously admired government official running for the highest office in the land as an excuse to rise to, what they perceive as their cause, and plot the assassination of someone who has been protrayed as an enemy of the state. Get real and get off that high horse of yours, cause its going to be a long fall.
Shame - see message
On all who conveniently forget to talk about all the bashing and awful things that the democrat side does. I posted below some of the stuff the Obama supporters have done to McCain/Palin (hanging her figure from a rope, violence towards the republican office by throwing rocks through windows, vandalizing, etc. And one of the worse so far an attack on her motorcade. What did the attackers think they would do, open the doors and drag her in the street and beat her up like Rodney King. That's what I was thinking when I was watching it on CNN, and I'm sure that's what she was thinking too. So it's okay for a republican to be scared for their life, attacked and hate smear spread about them? You don't condone that? Nobody should have to be scared for their life no matter what political party they belong to. I don't care if its Obama, McCain, Biden, or Palin, nobody deserves that.
So there are those who conviently discard the violence towards the conservatives. And I too put some blame on Obama/Biden for fueling the hate on their side. Play the race card all you want. It's not true but it's used when all else fails. There are radical people on both sides, whether its skinheads or black supporters, there is no reason for violence or hate.
My DH said two things to me that sum up how I feel -
1. Free thinkers questions all.
2. Knowledge frees the mind - read everything.
The shame is that we don't have another choice (sm)
I wish there was someone I could truly feel good about voting for.
Shame on this sentiment!
Exactly what is meant by PUT COUNTRY FIRST? To you it may mean unending war, because that's EXACTLY what McCain would have delivered.
PATRIOTISM to this writer, at least, means standing up for one's COUNTRY against bad government, corrupt government.
THAT MY FRIEND IS EXACTLY, exactly what the majority of Americans did tonight!
They voted *against* the status quo of starting FAKE wars to steal resources - at the costs of millions of innocent lives and HUNDREDS of billion dollars - which costs us more than we can possibly ever understand.
They voted *against* the politics of fear which keeps us divided and paralyzed...
They voted *for* the promise of an America that COULD BE but isn't because of the dangerous and sick policies of the BUSH/GOP 8 years in power.
THEY VOTED **FOR** THEIR COUNTRY!
Shame on you for that message
That was quite nasty. Military fodder? Our boys serve because they want to, because they believe in the USA.
Military industrial complex? That sounds like something out of the mouth of ----- (fill in the blank), not someone who loves their country.
It is a shame that you cannot understand
know something that SCIENCE cannot disprove!
Shame on you. I think he is handling this exactly right. nm
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No, shame on you - see message
For not seeing with your eyes open.
I'm sorry Oldtimer but I really disagree with you on this one and I'm tired of being bashed for my opinions.
Handling this right would be for Obama to handle it the exact same way every single other new president has in the past with his transition team quietly getting things in place. Not so quiet as we don't know what's going on, but not creating a whole new branch of government to feed on his ego. One commenter I read said he's coming off as thought he is "co-president". January 20th will be here soon enough.
What he is doing just sickens a lot of people who understands what is happening.
Well, that's a shame. If he is wrong you
let the necessary people know whether he is in your party or not.
It's a shame you do not realize this.....
mess cannot be swept under the rug in a matter of weeks. How can you blame Obama for this mess? He's been doing everything he can considering the obstacles he has had to face. I suppose we should do nothing? My husband is laid off, we don't have healthcare right now and I have a rare type of cancer that has no cure - you can only try to keep it at bay....my future is bright since I can't afford the chemo drugs ($6,000 per month). This stimulus plan can be compared to the bible - you can choose to interpret any way it serves your purpose/agenda. I choose to believe Obama is trying to pull us up out of this hellhole that he inherited.
It is a shame that you obviously think you are psychic and know my.....sm
political leanings, and also need to attack blindly. First off, I have been Democrat all my life, but I am also Independent, had McCain proven himself to be the better candidate, I was more than willing to vote for him, HE proved himself otherwise during long campaign, debates, etc. And as far as knowing about the healthcare system, I worked for years in hospital doing coding/billing as well as transcription, and also have been office manager for many practices in charge of billing reimbursement. Also, my mom is 90 and I lost my dad last year, I know ALL ABOUT Medicare. I never said the hospitals were getting rich on Medicare, but YOU WISE UP because I saw a lot of fraudulant billing, double-billing, padding the bill, etc., YOU don't kid yourself. There are so many hospital and clinic systems thoughout the United States that ARE making profits hand over fist, you have to know the distinction between for-profit hospitals and non-profit research/teaching hospitals. I am pointing my finger in the direction of where everything has gone wrong for over 8 years because any type of big business or money was SACRED COW, and Obama's Healthcare reform is A LOT more complicated, complex, and forward-thinnking than any of you want to admit. You and those who think like you are the shame..........
Snooker us once, shame on you. Snooker us twice, shame on us. sm
I'm betting a lot of folks won't be snookered the next time.
No - shame on you VT legislators!!!
The legislators did not vote in line with what the constituents want. They overturned the Governor's veto instead of focusing on the issues at hand, i.e. THE ECONOMY.
They wanted to do the "IN" thing. Shame on them.
Shame on YOU, anti-SSM... it's not about
If the church is going to start dictating what the goverment does, then we d****d well better start TAXING them. Now THAT would be of help to the economy.
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