Semantics versus common sense...
Posted By: Veteran on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: Article XIV - Marmann
As I mentioned previously, the phrase I mentioned was "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," which is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constititution. I never mentioned citizens at all, and neither did that phrase.
What I did say is that the law of this land - and any country I am aware of - protects human life, and I'm pretty sure there is little argument that a pregnant woman is always pregnant with a human life...not a gopher, a lampshade, or a pickle. There has never been a human pregnancy that produced anything other than a human being. We (human beings) have laws to protect other human beings. I just don't understand why some people don't think unborn human beings should be included in that protection. Hiding behind religious differences, constitutional "technicalities," and "live and let live" rhetoric doesn't negate the fact that human beings give birth to human beings, and if you kill that human being - any human being, either in the womb or out, it is wrong, ethically, morally, by all human standards and all human laws in all countries of which I am aware.
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No, that just has to do with some common sense
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No, but I do have common sense.
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Exactly! Thanks for being common sense
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Well, for those with common sense
it's no secret that MORE money will have to be printed to pay for all those ridiculous programs and trillions of dollars in junk stuff. The dollar is worth nadda right now, so it will be worth nil afterwards. How much lower can you go?
Anyone with half a brain knows even if we weren't paying for a wars, that wouldn't even touch the money needed to cover the trillion dollar screwover job he's doing to the American people. He can cut this and cut that and call it duplicate programs, blah, blah, blah, but what good is that when he turns around and ADDS and ADDS more and more trillions of dollars in spending programs?
Government has never and WILL NEVER be the ones who know how to spend your money. All you Obama lovers need to stop pointing fingers at the republicans. Republicans AND Democrats spend too much; that's why it continues to this day. Doesn't matter who is in office. BUT, this is one president who has absolutely gone crazy with spending..........and we thought Jimmy Carter was a nut!!
Common sense would say
that prices may go down a tad bit, but don't be looking to get a car for free. Dealerships still have to at least break even on vehicles to survive. They can't just give a car away for nothing. Dealerships are hurting big time right now and people have the common misconception that they will sell something really cheap because they are hurting. Well selling something and taking a huge loss isn't going to help that dealership so why would they do it? These salesmen work on commission and they are starving here. What is the point of working if they can't make anything off of a car to feed their family?
If I were you....I'd just kind of shop around but I highly doubt that prices are going to drop dramatically. Even if Chrysler files bankruptcy.....that doesn't mean dealerships selling them will file too. It certainly won't help sales but it doesn't automatically mean they are going under too. They still have a product to sell and to make money off of to survive.
Did your common sense tell you...(sm)
that I wasn't talking to you? 
Common sense...
some have it...some don't...
Lack of common sense
An 83-year-old woman is too old, most likely, to be of much assistance in Iraq. Not ruling it out totally, but most likely this is the case. I have gleaned from the posts I have read that the rah-rah-war conservatives doing most of the posting are fairly able-bodied, some in their 30s, some in their 50s and some older. I am 52 and if I truly truly believed in this war I feel I would be over there doing what I could to support that effort (especially since many over there do NOT want to be there and have serious qualms about our involvement). But go ahead, call me names and make even more ENDLESS excuses why you won't go. Maybe even mention a 95-year-old or a 5-year-old that supports the war as examples of folks who aren't over there.
In the meantime I read more and more that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda continue to grow and operate at ease and at will in a large area of Afghanistan near Pakistan.
It common sense - if we can afford one
Simple as that. You can twist it around as much as you want, but the truth is the money is there, and it is just about priorities. I am not trying to personally attack you. I have not resorted to childish name calling or anything like that, I just think your view is warped, and you obviously think my view is wrong, and we will obviously never agree on this issue.
There is also such a thing as common sense.
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You would say that. Common sense is lost to the
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Common sense and ethics
seems to become less and less around these days. I agree with your post. The b/c issue is so the least of my worries and I simply don't understand exactly what it is the supporters of same want to accomplish.
I fear we haven't seen anything yet. Heard on CNN (which of course some will say is not credible) that the unemployment rate could reach 20% within the next few months. I should think with MTs not having enough work now, that would keep them sufficiently busy worrying. I don't know what Obama will do. All I know to do is pray. I think it is entirely possible that Bush AND the congress have put us so far in the tank there may not be any way out economically. My guess is that we will be taken over by one of our creditor nations and there goes what's left of our freedom, certainly the freedom to get on the internet and state our thoughts. But then Bush has bought himself a ranch in Argentina isn't it? So if his residence in Big D doesn't suit him along with the condition he has left this country in, he has an escape. Unfortunately most of us can't afford that luxury so we'll be left to deal with the mess he and the idiot congress have left us along with a massive debt in proportions I cannot begin to comprehend.
Yes, there are many more things at this point that are far more important than the b/c issue. Wouldn't surprise me if these lawsuits are being filed to dupe people who believe everything they hear. As I've said before, I do not believe that those who are keeping this b/c thing rolling posting the same thing over and over and over are actually MTs. I think they are promoting a political agenda. I have said this before and I notice no one has posted challenging my thoughts.
I had a great holiday. Thanks for asking. I hope you had a great time too.
No, some of us have values and common sense.
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It is just common sense that the economy has to ...sm
come first before any big changes are made. When change is made it needs to be slow and deliberate.
thought u would have enough common sense
when I posted my original post FOCA I was responding to some people below, if you do not like my posts or are sick of hearing about the video, then common sense tells you, dont read my posts. A blah blah blah post or I'm sick of hearing it post, really doesn't have anything constructive to offer to the conversation. If you are sick of hearing it, move on already. No one asked you to comment. And what the heck is a diest anyway? My what they come up with these days.
Agree. You'd think it would be common sense.
Tax breaks for the top 2% and corporations, or tax breaks and programs to get the economy going again for working people. I don't understand why so many working-class republicans fight against their own interests.
Ron Paul's common sense
never fails to restore my faith in the democratic process. His ideas are rooted in thoughtful, down-to-earth analysis and free of partisan affiliation and agendas. It makes me proud when an elected official has the guts to stand up and speak against US involvement in the Middle East, call it exactly what it is and in the next breath expouse the wisdom of centrism when speaking on the economy and the bail outs. I hope he's around for many years to come.
What we need is a common-sense quotient.
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That is the ONLY common sense thing he
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That one just takes a little common sense...(sm)
and a little fact checking. You might want to try it sometime.
not negativity, just common sense sm
that whether the president is "hot" or not shouldn't even be an issue. He is in Washington to run the country (that is a joke) not to play beach model!
Taking a course on common sense
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Why can't some people just use common sense?
Obama is going to try to "force" those who want healthcare to be unionized..... which is illegal, but you hide and watch........which will, of course, kill small businesses. Ron Paul does have it right..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG8MHYNY4Xs
Excellent, common sense post!
Great points!
Great common sense post! nm
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Right, nothing psychotic, simply common sense.
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how about legal!!/common sense test...
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Perhaps you'd like to give a common sense response to
Would be interested to hear your spin on that.
Gourdpainter, I love your common sense
viewpoint of all of this. We just have to consider ourselves fortunate to be blessed with the intelligence and clear-minded thinking that seems to be so lacking in many of these posts.
seems like rabid democrat common sense to me.....
Conservatives that I meet are common sense
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Most common sense people know it's welfare!!
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Common sense does not exist with the dems
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This will be lost on you.....but common sense MADE
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Really? Yeah, try to twist common sense into
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Logic and common sense tell me the content of this message
Our government agencies tend to err on the side of caution in these circumstances. I do agree that votes will not and should not be swayed one way or the other. I just found this to be a fascinating piece of news.
Sarah Palin is smart, common sense, and did
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Don't you think that common sense would dictate this to be totally false?
It's these sort of ridiculous statements that contribute to the ignorance that is rampant out there.
Rush is common-sense and The Huff and puff
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Common sense needed, not book smarts
I'm sorry but we have had too many SMART people running this country...what we need is some people with COMMON SENSE running this country. I have worked with people from lawyers, to doctors, to laborers when I waitressed and the smartest people don't have a lick of common sense. THAT is what is wrong with our government, no common sense and no real life experience. You show me 1 politician who has ever worried about their house payment or car payment or who has had $10 left in their checking acct at the end of the month-you can't because their isn't 1. They do not understand the average joe because they've never been the average joe. So how can they help us?
Sadly, common sense and good behavior...........sm
are seldom rewarded but highly expected and those who practice sound financial habits are often not given the breaks that those who do not are given. It just seems harsh to say "screw them" when one may not know the circumstances and when there may be children involved who would be homeless through no fault of their own. Guess I'm just a little tender-hearted about that.
What a beautifully written, truthful, common sense post.
Cannot add a thing. Thank you for telling it like it is so profoundly and full of truths! 
Sarah Palin is smart and common sense. Snooty
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Common sense, street smarts and intelligence would be ideal.
Considering the choice we were given, I think we did the right thing and that we will be on the mend sooner rather than later.
Bible verses would be freedom of speech - common sense!
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nm and you thumb your nose at everying - common sense - killing this country.nm
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Once again, semantics -- is that all you got?
sounds like ...Maybe you should look up the definition of semantics, because it sounds like your not very knowledgeable in vocabulary or word usage and inferred intent.
semantics
One basic fact that not many think about but it still holds true: If there had NOT been racism, hatred and bigotry in this country agains blacks and other minorities - do you think there would have EVER been a need to enact legislation and PASS LAWS to protect those very people from being discriminated against in THE FIRST PLACE?. Racism has been prevalent in this country for hundreds of years and to have the nonchalant attitude regarding your remark about black people still living in the past COULD be insulting but it is not even worth commenting on anymore. I feel sorry for you.
Not semantics - Law. There was a need for the Civil Rights
movement of the 50s and 60s. That movement did the job and now it is all water under the bridge. Quit whining about slavery and mistreatment. Quit living in the past. That's all African-American's based their votes on in this election, was the past and skin color. It's racism and ignorance pure and simple. The hypocrisy is the democrats/liberals and their message of tolerance. Now it's the whites that are disciminated against and all tolerance is gone.
Socialized health care = semantics...
what it boils down to is, when you have the federal government start administering all health care, quality of care will go down, not up, and access to care will be even more difficult. You cited Medicare and Medicaid...both rife with waste and fraud. We read about it every other day. The VA system for soldiers is federally run...tell me how well THAT is working, and that is not for every person in the US. I would like a poll of rank and file Canadians...I would like to know what individuals think of their health system. The only one I saw quoted said 55% of his paycheck is taken off the top for taxes, and a large part of that is what funds the health care system. There ARE waiting lists for operations. And even if you have the money privately to pay for your own operation if time constraint is involved, you are NOT allowed to jump the "list." That is why many Canadians cross the border for emergent care and surgery. Just a couple of weeks ago there was the story of the two women with high-risk pregnancies who could not be hospitalized because there was nowhere to put them. They ended up in Seattle.
So no thanks. I would much rather have a full cost of premiums tax refund, which is what some have proposed. Yeah, you will still have to cough up the premiums for a year, but then if you take your refund at the end of the year and put it in the bank...voila. There are your premiums for the next year. And we can keep the quality of care we have and the access we have.
That would be my choice, far, far ahead of any kind of federal government subsidized and administered health care...which is what Hillary is proposing, only calling it "universal" instead of socialized. Same difference.
Word, semantics, when socialist doesn't scare...sm
people enough, it gets elevated to communist and nazi just being inflammatory. We are Americans first, democrats and republicans second, period.
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