Saturday night we had a benefit
Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-11-03
In Reply to: Oh, I appreciate them plenty! sm - m
bean supper in our community...guess who cooked the beans? The menu was pinto beans with ham hocks, fried 'taters, cornbread and fruit cobblers. Us downhome folks, about a hundred of us, ate ourselves silly. Only thing missing was the turnip greens. I don't care much for possum, too fat, but if it comes to eating it or going hungry I 'spect I'll develop a better taste for it.
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ABC debate on Saturday
Good Monday morning!
Looking for feedback from those who actually watched the debate on Saturday. I only got to watch the last hour of the democrats which was intersesting. I caught the regurgitated news afterward but am looking more for personal opinions.
Thanks!
Is it Saturday where you live too? nm
Some political comedy for a Saturday.
I pulled this from a diary from the Daily Kos, made me giggle. Some of it is arguable of course, but grossly true nonetheless. It is a list of how conservatism and communism are the same.
1. Anti-Environmentalism Radicalism. (Cons put the economic interests of the corporation first. Communists the economic interests of the govt bureaucracy first. The rest of us put the people first.)
2. Anti-Middle Class Tax policies (This is at the cornerstone of both philosophies. Sadly, conservatism is worse.)
3. Boy Scout/Pioneer type groups for children. Compare the right wing forces behind the Boy Scouts and the Communist programs of their Pioneers. They're mirror images of each other.
4. Bureaucrats Making Medical Decisions (HMO bureaucrats are basically the same thing as communist health care bureaucrats. The rest of us want doctors and patients making these decisions.)
5. Censorship
6. Civil Rights Opposition
7. Death Penalty Fanaticism - Granted there are many progressives, liberals, and moderates who support this but it is usually communists and conservatives who are most gung ho about the death penalty.
8. Excessive and Unwarranted Use of Military Force. War is profitable, peace is not. Both philosophies also tend to distrust people.
9. Flag Desecration means jail.
10. Govt Owns A Woman's Womb Yep, even on abortions the communists believe they control a woman's womb.
11. Habeas Corpus Denial
12. Illegal Wiretapping of Citizens
13. Immigration Hostility - Both philosophies tend to be distrustful of immigrants and seek to deny newcomers opportunities.
14. Individual Rights Denying - Both philosophies hate the individual and don't believe in individual rights.
15. Lack of Due Process.
16. Media Consolidation.
17. No Right To Privacy.
18. Occupational Safety Denying -
19. Orphanages That Suck - Compare Newt Served Wife With Divorce Papers While In Hospital Bed Undergoing Cancer Treatment Gingrich's plan for orphanages to the communists plan for orphanages. Both support run down abuse centers straight out of Oliver Twist.
20. Patriotism Misdefined-- Both define it in terms of shallow symbols and blind nationalism.
21. Police Abuse and Brutality - Both conservatives and communists oppose good cops and instead want to see law enforcement run by rogue cops who misuse their public positions for political witchhunts.
22. Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
23. Rote Learning In Education (NCLB's teach to the test curriculum is Soviet communism education revamped.)
24. sex police - Both philosophies want to regulate consenting private sexual activity between adults.
25. Sexism -- Both philosophies tend to view women as inferiors out of the twisted Victorian era and not as equals.
26. Tort Rights Destruction -- (including govt bureaucrats not jurors making decisions, denying plaintiffs access to courts, and loser pay schemes)
27. Torture
28. Underfunding of Schools
29. Unions -- Both philosophies oppose democratic unions.
30. Voter Rights Denying - both oppose free, fair, and honest elections where all adults are registered to vote and their votes are accurately counted.
31. Wasteful Defense Spending - Both philosophies actually oppose strong national defense. Instead they support using the military budge as a welfare distribution center for cronies and unnecessary expenses.
32. Welfare For The Well Connected Neither philosophy believes in merit or opportunity. It's about power and using that power to reward your cronies and ass lickers.
33. Workplace Discrimination Permitted - Both philosophies believe that govt bureaucrats and corporate management may discriminate against their workers for illegal reasons and the screwed employees shall have no recourse.
I thougth you signed off for the night with a good night to all
Welcome back. Yeah, I saw the same flip off he gave Hillary - nice gesture and respect to a woman who fought hard to get where she is at. Such disrespect.
BTW - I don't know anyone who uses their middle finger to scratch their face.
CNN: DEAD WRONG Saturday and Sunday
I would strongly recommend watching this program. It's on CNN Saturday and Sunday nights. It describes just how and why Bush went to war in Iraq and how nothing was going to stop him and how he was DEAD WRONG.
I feel so bad for Colin Powell, a man of real honesty and integrity, who got mixed up with the *wrong crowd* in Washington.
Saturday cartoons: Some real good ones, too.
Scroll down a little.
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/
They are still getting benefit from it. sm
On cue, conveniently before the primaries, apparently Osama has taken time off from his job as a bartender in Santa Monica to send the American people another message. You all better vote for those candidates who are tough on those terrorists now.
Oh, we all know who will benefit.....won't be you
Obama has already said "spread the wealth" out of his own mouth. That is socialism 101. Perhaps there is now a book out called "Socialism for Dummies". If not, it will be out soon. Get yourself a copy.
THanks for the info. I think others here could benefit from it also.
Thank you for sharing. I really didn't know that.
Technically, it does benefit someone.... sm
The oil execs, the oil field workers, the gas and oil distributors, the gas station owners, and several ancillary industries do benefit from the higher gas prices. I have a friend who is a consultant in the oil industry at the production level. He was clearing 5 figures a month prior to the reduction in gas prices but has been out of work for the past 6 weeks or so. Granted, he does have a nice little nest egg on which to coast for a while, but he is still a consumer and still is affected by the reduction in oil prices.
I'm not trying to justify the rise in gas prices as being right because it does bring work to a certain sector of the work force, but rather I am just saying that in the oil industry, as with any area of the work force, what may benefit them may not benefit all people. So it will also be with Obama's stimulus package. What puts money in your pocket, for example, may not help me at all or may even adversely affect me.
COuld be, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt,,,
and think he was entirely sincere because he loves his family and would not want anyone going after them because he is seeking high office. Good for him!
O will cut taxes for 95% to benefit WC families.
Then ask yourself which group you fall into. If you are in the top 5% economic class or area huge corporation, then by all means you should not vote for O. Take off your party hat and give this some real consideration.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt...
you meant to say Osama Bin Laden and mistakenly said Sadaam Hussein, right?
People, please, please be informed and know the issues before you go to the polls. It's important.
So Jimmy Buffet does a benefit concert for Obama.
How is this a division of the races? There are all different races in this country ya' know.
Screaming was to give you the benefit of the doubt because you acted like you were deaf.
Instead it's obvious you're just dumb.
Go to your own board. You're not wanted here.
So, rich tax cuts expire, middle class gets benefit,
will undermine, erode and ultimately vaporize capitalist money/greed ambition and incentive to produce, but keep minimum wage workers at sub-living-wage levels and expect them to have exhibit impeccible work ethic and slave away 24/7 with no complaints? I think I got it now.
Yes, last night was party night.
I was actually very disappointed in the Obama party. I thought we were going to discuss issues and where Obama stood on the issues, but the lady from the Democratic Headquarters that came to give that information only passed out papers that were printed directly off of his website - already read that. The other thing I was disappointed in was that it seemed everyone there was a Hillary supporter and talked endlessly about her rather than Obama (no, I didn't get snarky and remind them that she was not running=). Unfortunately, I don't really feel like I learned more than what I did off of his website. It was nice to chat with my friends and meet some new people, but other political-wise, it was a waste of time. That's not to say that all Obama parties would be that way and I do encourage anyone who gets invited to one, whether you're Republican or Democrat, to attend - the person in charge of that one might be more knowledgable than the one from the party I was at. Thanks again to all who sent me websites to check out beforehand!!!
Yes - a bean-counter will decide that the cost-benefit ratio over the expected remaining life span..
...isn't worth it, and you'll be denied that hip replacement or whatever. So much less expensive to prop you up in a wheelchair and shove you in a corner. They'll poke you tomorrow morning to see if you're dead yet.
And, folks, I'm not kidding.
Night
I dont have to defend my education or knowledge of history. I know what I have been taught. This endless attack gets tiring. Time to go do something more constructive than read your attacks to me. Later Gator
I saw the ad too last night.
She definitely told us to vote for Obama. So much for their claims of being a bipartisan group.....sheesh.
They only had from 11 p.m. last night
to 9 a.m. this morning to read it, not 2 weeks. The one that passed the house happened last night, not 2 weeks ago. There are changes in it since yesterday.
I saw this on TV last night as well.
This is definitely scary. When we lose control to raise or own children......what else do they want to take away from us. This is beyond ridiculous.
You people who cry and whine about government staying out of your uterus....well how about stay out of my home and let me raise my kids I decided to have instead of aborting. What about those rights?
And they wonder why people are upset and worried?
I saw this last night.
She was an excellent guest.
Exactly what DH said last night.
He said the country is down the toilet and he doesn't care what they do anymore because none of it helps the working man, just the corrupt government and the millionaires. There will be no middle class, only the poor and the rich, like it was in the 'dark ages.'
I saw last night where they said that
WE (taxpayers) footed the bill for the helicopter ride, secret service motorcade, closing of the streets (yep this costs money), extra police needed in NYC and on top of all of this they believe that we also paid for the dinner and the show. Over 20,000 people with GM losing jobs and our President is going on a date at the taxpayer's expense. I don't care if he is Republican, Democrat, this is just wrong for any politician to pull this kind of crap especially with the things the way that they are.
Just saw a documentary the other night..
about Uday and Qusay, Saddam's sons. It was SICKENING. Iraq was hardly stable unless you call people having their ankles held in stock-like contraptions while sombody beats them for 30 minutes on the bottoms of their feet with a baseball bat, prior to hanging them upside down from a cable from the ceiling and beating them all over with the same bat. If you compare the number of deaths in Iraq to the number of murders and useless violence in America you could say that WE are living in a far worse war zone. I say it was worth a try, and we have to be patient, something Americans are increasingly lost the ability to do in this add water and mix world that we live in.
Every night! You're right.
It's going to be hilarious!
For those of you who miss it, you can see clips at their website.
Thanks. Watched it last night, and
 they have the entire program on there too. Didn't have time to see it all but intend to watch it when I get the time. Thanks again, very kind of you to direct me there.
Good night to you! (sm)
I don't post under a name, because when you do you are crucified by the drive-by bombers. It's best to keep the them confused.
From *The Situation* last night.
And Tucker Carlson is hardly a liberal.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13459509/
But first to a story horrifying even by the coarsening standards of Iraq, the brutal murder and torture of two U.S. soldiers.
Privates first class Kristian Menchaca and Thomas L. Tucker went missing Friday after an attack on a checkpoint they were manning south of Baghdad. Their bodies were found on Monday night. They were reportedly so badly mutilated they were tentatively identified by tattoos and scars. The corpses were also booby-trapped, an apparent effort to kill recovery teams.
Al Qaeda‘s new leader in Iraq has claimed responsibility for the soldier‘s slaughter.
In the face of brutality like this, is Iraq worth the cost in American lives? Here to answer that question, Brad Blakeman. He‘s the former deputy assistant to the president. He joins us tonight from Washington.
Brad, thanks for coming on.
BRAD BLAKEMAN, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Tucker.
CARLSON: So we have spent untold billions of dollars, 2,500 American soldiers killed, all in an effort to bring democracy and prosperity to Iraq. In return, they torture and murder and mutilate our soldiers. Remind me why this is a good bargain?
BLAKEMAN: Well, Tucker, look, this is a tough thing, and our hearts go out to every soldier who has made the ultimate sacrifice so that we can live in freedom.
But Iraq is worth fighting for. The region is worth fighting for. It‘s in our interest. These terrible, brutal dictatorships must be brought down when they become a threat to our national security. You know...
CARLSON: OK. But that‘s not the rationale the president has offered. He has said now, because as you know, and not to rehash the whole war, but no weapons of mass destruction were found. And he‘s said now this is worth doing because it‘s worth bringing freedom to the Iraqi people. They yearn for freedom, and it‘s our duty to give them the freedom they yearn for.
My question is how have they earned our sacrifice to bring them that freedom? What about Iraq justifies the death—brutal deaths of American soldiers? Why should we feel like it‘s worth it to bring these people democracy when they behave like animals like this?
BLAKEMAN: We‘re focusing on the animals and not the good and decent people of Iraq. The vast majority of Iraq is peaceful.
CARLSON: Is that right? I don‘t think—I don‘t think there‘s any evidence of that.
BLAKEMAN: There are 12 million people who went to—who went to the polls. They have four successful elections. They have a new government. We tend only to focus on the very bad, on the insurgencies, and the evil people. But the vast majority of Iraqis want to be free.
You know, if we took your attitude...
CARLSON: Is that true? Is that true?
BLAKEMAN: Hold on, Tucker. If we took your attitude, we would have turned back at the beaches of Normandy when all those people...
CARLSON: Spare me the tired, hackney, cliched World War II analogies. Let‘s get to the war in progress, and that‘s Iraq. There are decent people there. I have been there. I‘ve met decent people there. I know firsthand.
However, your claim that most people want peace is bosh as they say.
Let me show you...
BLAKEMAN: It is not.
CARLSON: It certainly is. A poll undertaken by the ministry of defense from Great Britain, part of the coalition, said 65 percent of Iraqi citizens support attacks on U.S. citizens.
Our own polling, done by World Opinion, public opinion, 47 percent approve attacks on U.S. forces, 88 percent of Sunnis, 88 percent approve of attacks on U.S. forces.
These are—are these—these are the people our sons and daughters are dying to make rich and free? How does that work?
BLAKEMAN: It is our responsibility. We brought down this dictator, this evil dictator...
CARLSON: How are we responsible?
BLAKEMAN: ... who used weapons of mass destruction against his own people. Now, it‘s our responsibility to bring democracy to these people. We can‘t cut and run and defeat the dictator and then leave...
CARLSON: Why is it our responsibility? There are countries across the world who live in shackles.
BLAKEMAN: We are the freest nation on earth. That‘s why it‘s our responsibility. We‘re the freest nation on earth. We brought down the dictator, and now it‘s our responsibility...
CARLSON: How does that work? They have not done one thing for us. Look—look, think of the implications of what you are saying. I don‘t know if you have thought this through.
BLAKEMAN: I‘ve thought it through very well.
CARLSON: Nation after nation after nation, starting with Mugabe in Zimbabwe, moving all the way to communist—still communist, still unfree China, people who are living in fetters who are unfree, who are oppressed, is it our, as you put it, obligation as a free a nation to free those nations? Do you really want to play this?
BLAKEMAN: Is it—do you know what our obligation is? It‘s to bring freedom to those people who yearn to be free. And China has come a long way.
CARLSON: So it‘s your obligation to sent your son, my obligation...
(CROSSTALK)
CARLSON: ... people I‘ve never met in countries that hate us? You‘ve got to be kidding. It‘s my obligation to do that?
BLAKEMAN: Yes, it is our obligation. Was it our obligation to go—was it our obligation.
CARLSON: Where does the obligation come from? I didn‘t sign up for that obligation.
BLAKEMAN: It‘s our obligation. Was it our obligation to go—was it our obligation to go into Europe where we weren‘t attacked? No, Europe let a dictator get so strong that collectively they couldn‘t take him down, and we had to come down.
CARLSON: We got in war when we were attacked.
BLAKEMAN: We lost 400,000 Americans in that war. We lost—a million people were wounded in that war.
CARLSON: Right. And there were...
BLAKEMAN: But was it worth it?
CARLSON: Let me just remind you, we entered that war on December 7, 1941, when our soil, the protectorate of Hawaii, was attacked by a foreign nation and thousands of Americans died. We went to war on that day, and not before. OK? So the overall principle you are stating here, that we have a moral obligation to free the unfree, think it through, man. It‘s...
BLAKEMAN: I didn‘t say that, Tucker. I said when we took down the dictator, when we made an obligation to risk our soldiers to free a country, we just can‘t cut and run. We have to establish a government for them. We‘ve got to give them the opportunity to succeed. That‘s our obligation.
CARLSON: And you may be right as far as that goes. But the blanket obligation that Bush implies, and you just stated, that we have to go free the world, to send our sons and daughters to go...
BLAKEMAN: No, we don‘t have to free the world
CARLSON: ... die for other people‘s freedom, people who hate us, it‘s a scary thing.
BLAKEMAN: Well, then you know what? Didn‘t the Japanese hate us?
Didn‘t the Germans hate us? Do they hate us today?
CARLSON: They attacked us first. We had no choice.
BLAKEMAN: They‘re our allies. They our allies, and they stand shoulder to shoulder with us. Should we have waited to get attacked by the Iraqis? No.
CARLSON: You know, I thought—when I supported the war initially, I thought that they were capable of attacking us, and it turns out, as you know, and I‘m sad to report, that we weren‘t.
BLAKEMAN: They were pretty capable of attacking us if they wanted to.
CARLSON: Brad Blakeman, thanks a lot.
BLAKEMAN: You are welcome.
Last night was very encouraging!! sm
I was surprised that the turnout in Iowa was almost double on the Democrat side than the Republican side. Was also excited that Obama won, because I don't like the "given" that Clinton is going to be the nominee "no matter what." Hope the Democrat turnout is that high in New Hampshire!!
I caucused last night
I'm a registered Republican (but I don't consider myself Republican per se) who was the only voter in my precinct who voted Giuliani. There were 79 registered voters there, 43 of whom voted for Huckabee and only 3 for Romney. Then they started talking about the Republican Party planks, and I wound up leaving early. They were starting to get really, erm, snotty.
Anyway, if Huckabilly (as one of the Iowa reporters acidentally called him last night on the news) is the Republican candidate, I will not vote for him. We have a very large homeschooling population in our precinct, and I think that is why so many here are in love with Huckabilly. I will look very hard to your Mr. Obama if he is indeed the Democrat nominee for president.
I don't know if I added anything to your post, but I was happy to see someone actually get so many young people energized about this process.
I sleep very well at night, thank you.
I don't make near $80,000 a year but I pay my bills, insure my children, and they do not go without meals. We don't have the primo cable, we don't have the flat screen TVs, we don't drive the best cars. We don't have the high dollar video games. I have my priorities straight and I DO NOT expect tthe government to take care of my children. That is MY job. I am the parent.
As to disgusted for fund raises when kids get cancer...can you please get real? Even with insurance policies, there are huge bills left over. We all know that. Fund raisers help offset that. There is no policy in existence that pays every expense, I don't care HOW good it is. And there are hospitals all over this country...shriners, St. Jude to name a couple...and the ability to pay has nothing to do with children being treated. But they don't go looking for you; you actually have to go there for help.
Do you even really know what this bill would do or wouldn't do? Have you read it? You never answered my question. You think the government should pay the insurance for a family of 4 making $80K? WHY? You tell me why a family making $80K cannot pay for health insurance and feed their kids? If they can't, what they need is budget counseling, not freebie government insurance. As to payng huge premiums or eating....if a family of 4 making $80,000 has to choose between eating and insurance premiums...again...they need budget counseling. Families up to that level could get on SCHIP BEFORE the expansion. The reality is people did not make the hard decisions, and if they are making $80K a year with two kids and can't insure them, they have made wrong decisions. And..hellooo....unless it is a private hospital, if a child has a life-threatening illness such as cancer...they have to treat them. They cannot turn them away. And they have to accept payments "that the person can afford." We all know that too. You make it sound as if a diabetic child cannot get treatment if the government does not pay for it because his $80K parents can't take care of him. I cannot believe you made a statement like that. What parent, I ask you, making $80K a year could not/WOULD not take care of that diabetic child??? That has NOTHING to do with the government and EVERYTHING to do with the parent. Its called responsibility.
If you would do your homework and look at SCHIP as it is now and see how high up the income ladder it already goes...lower income families were covered then. Expanding it to include illegal aliens and families of 4 making $80K....not necessary.
I have nothing to look away from. If parents making $80K can look away and spend that insurance money on something other than their diabetic child....well, 'nuff said!!
How we sleep at night is also
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I saw that episode last night and though I am not
a Keith Olb. fan, not a fan of any news person really as they are all biased, I do agree with what he said. Why not debate the economy on Friday instead of just canceling it altogether. Now would be a perfect time to do that instead of the foreign policy debate, just switch the 2.
I saw that mentioned last night
on TV. I didn't see the whole video clip of them singing but the little bit I did see was enough to show me how eerie and just messed up that is. This whole thing is just creepy.
According to O last night he has now dropped
Funny how it just gets lower and lower and lower, and in another talk he thought anyone making $45K and over were above middle income.
Yes he did in the middle of the night
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I saw on the news last night
where someone had decorated their house for Halloween and hanging from a rope was a mannequin dressed like Sarah Palin. They had her hanging by the neck. How horrible is that? The authorities said that they couldn't do anything since it was a Halloween decoration. That is just sick though. I mean seriously....if they had Barrack Obama hanging by the neck or Joe Biden.....I'd still be sickened by it. What is wrong with people?
I need to be able to sleep at night
Leaning to the right said it and I want to put it in a separate post. I think this is one of the main reasons why people are voting for McCain.
I need to be able to sleep at night
Last night, my son and I were talking
about the election. He's 10 and they're studying this election in social studies. He told me they were going to have an "election" in class. I asked him if he knew who he was voting for and he immediately answered Obama. When I asked him why, he said because he likes him. I asked him if they studied the issues and the candidates' stances on these issues and he said yes. I began asking him some general questions -- their running mates, their economic policies, their military stances, etc. He didn't really know much other than who their running mates were and that Obama was going to "cut taxes on anyone making less than 250 thousand".
I thought that's not bad for a fifth grader, but when I asked him about their stance on abortion and same-sex marriage, he didn't know how the candidates stood. I told him that Obama is pro-choice and McCain is pro-life and I explained the difference. My son didn't know what an abortion was yet, so I didn't go into any graphic detail, just that the doctor could do a procedure on a woman to end the pregnancy. He was shocked that Obama would believe in this.
All these kids in his class are so hyped about Obama and yet I wonder how many wouldn't be here today if Obama had been elected 12 years ago. After I was done talking with him, I asked him what was more important to him: money or life?
He chose life. He said he was voting for McCain, even if it wasn't the popular choice, and when his class asks him why he's supporting McCain, he's going to tell them. Maybe some of these kids will go home and educate their parents. It's a shame how many people are going to vote next week without any clue as to how their candidate stands on the issues.
They just showed last night on the
news a house in Houston that is used for polling, about 100 people show up to vote there. The husband is a precinct official and his wife makes the coffee, etc.
Good night
will all of you just PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE grow up!!! You all sound like a bunch of little kids - - my dad is bigger than your dad, my dad can beat you up. GROW UP ALREADY WILL YA! The freakin' election is over with!!! I have my opinions on the matter but I won't voice them here, as I am a little too mature for the nonsense that has been going on, on this forum! 
I come on here to gain knowledge and information, not to hear WWIII going on for goodness sake. I don't know about you but I am getting tired of it.
I caught this last night. Wow,
Obama would be wise to find a place somewhere for Mr. Pickins as an energy advisor -- he's got it all figured out!!
I saw this on the news last night.
According to her staff, one of the photographers asked if she wanted to move so there would be a different background for her Q&A with the press, and she said, "No worries."
LOL....more like 3 times a night...(sm)
He actually provides enough goofs to keep 2 channels busy -- MSNBC and Comedy Central.
I have to watch O'Reilly. It's like watching a train wreck. How else would I know what Jon Stewart and Colbert and talking about....LOL.
Yes, I saw this on Keith last night as well.
Mind boggling, isn't it, when it's all put into this concentrated perspective? You do realize, of course, that your post will be slammed by all the still blind, in-denial Bush lovers? But, who cares? Because he. . . . is . . . . OUT OF HERE!! 
Well, in his speech last night, he sure
seemed to be trying to put fear at the retreat. He started out calm enough but before it was over, he was livid, blaming the pubs for everything. He WAS trying to put fear in the dems to the words that they HAVE to pass this bill. No way was he going to let it fail. He wants the package the way it is. He doesn't want to compromise on this package no matter what he says to the media with his smiling face.
How can they do this and sleep at night
I don't care what party someone is affiliated with. How can they do that and not think anything of it. I've got family out of work and losing homes and some going without eating some days and these politicians want money to go for pig smells, rodents, or whatever the pork product is. How can they do that and stand up there and act as though there is nothing wrong with it. When the politicians stop caring about what is happening in the economy that is the time they should stop being a politician.
Last night I was watching
....are you ready....Fox News....OMG.
Anyway, they were talking about the vicious and personal attacks on Miss CA. One guy said that she used to be a man and had to have breast implants and cut her penis off to be in the pageant. Just crude and horrible things. So they brought on this feminist to see what she thought about the cruelty and the vicious personal attacks on Miss CA. This feminists who is supposed to be for women's rights said that Miss CA should have opted for a heart transplant instead of breast implants.
OMG....a feminist cutting down a woman because she was outspoken and voiced her honest opinion. I'm so sick and tired of hearing how people who don't agree with same sex marriage are heartless people full of hate. I don't hate gay people. Just because I don't agree with something doesn't give others the right to cut me down for it. I don't cut down gay couples even though I don't agree with it.
I just don't understand why all these so-called liberal open minded groups are so open minded unless someone has a difference of opinion. You cannot call them names or cut them down but if you disagree with them, you are fair game and they will cut you down brutally anywhere and in any way they can. Talk about a double standard here.
Any feminist should be outraged by the treatment of Miss CA. So she believes in traditional marriage....so what. That doesn't make her a bad person and I don't see her going around cutting down other people who disagree with her but she has had one vicious attack after another and it is just a shame.
I don't much care about pageants and all that jazz and I was really tired of hearing about how she lost because of her answer but these attacks on her are just insane. If these leftist groups are all about compassion......where is it?
They keep talking about equality for all but yet you can't have an opinion that is different. How is that equality when you bash people who don't agree with you? Aren't we all entitled to our opinions without viciously and personally attacking those who don't agree with us?
their date night out --
http://mediamatters.org/research/200906010027First, according to this article, the Obama's paid for their own tickets and dinner. The rest, of course we footed the bill, he had to have security, he had to have his staff, and he had to have his transportation. That is nothing new - we have done that for every President.I do not expect him to give up his life and be in the White House 24/7 for the entire presidency. He has to have some fun time with his family and friends or he would go crazy.I don't like the amount of money it takes to do the things the President(s) do, but it is a necessary expense in my mind. If a man or woman knew they could never leave home again as long as they were serving that they could never move or travel, then nobody would want the job.
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