Sam leaves us no room for real issues.
Posted By: Running on MT on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: Issues people, issues. I need issues - Tired MT
It has been nothing but a sam Blitzkrieg on the political board these past few weeks. Sam posts messages with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating arguments, as evidenced by her comments such as, "Let the games begin." If sam would be so kind as to step away, we might be able to discuss the issues that are important to all of us in an intelligent and adult manner. I for one will no longer feed the sam troll by by acknowledging any post by her.
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real issues
such as celebrity, Ayers, etc.??
you have real issues
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Real issues
Read or heard on the news yesterday that in 2009 it will be the big investors in the commercial real estate market who will be facing disaster. Will they be the next to get a bail-out? I'd bet they will be trying. I hope Obama and the Congress will put a big fat NO to any more bail-outs.
Must be real low on issues at the moment, huh....nm
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Don't you even understand the real issues here?
All this hooplah on either side means nothing to me. I look for the facts of each candidate, which is what you should be doing instead of grasping at reports such as these.
Do you believe you won't be taxed? Sure you do because for reasons that escape me, you refuse to look at his voting record on taxes. Just this past March, in the middle of the night, he tried to pass a bill to tax YOU, the middle class, along with Hillary Clinton. I don't call the rich those making 31K - 63K a year, so you keep believing in a lie if you want until your paycheck is gone.
It's in black and white or are you not aware how to actually find facts for yourself.
You have real issues and I've never killed an abortion doctor
nor have I condoned the very few that have. We are not all murderers. I'm sorry that something has has happened in your life to make you so against God, but demonizing us will not make your issues go away. We are not trying to be superior, but if you want religion to stay out of schools then all religion and theories (which liberalism is full of) needs to stay out too. If you want it vanilla and equal well then it works both ways.
Yeah...almost asridiculous as yours, I admit...so shall we cease and desist and stick to real issues
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Issues people, issues. I need issues
I'm not seeing any discussion about issues. Can we stick to the issues. Jeeze - I want to hear good and bad about both candidates but with facts to back whatever is being said.
P-L-E-A-S-E.....I want issues. How can I make any kind of determinatons about who I'm going to vote for if I don't hear about the issues. Reading some of this I'm thinking I'd get more truth if I read the National Enquirer.
Missouri MT said her son leaves for
basic training in a week; did you not read that? She needs your prayers and not your critism at this time in her life and her son's too.
Until one of them leaves the toilet seat up
and the other falls in at 3 a.m. and screams about it!!!
For those who care- guess that leaves me out. NM
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They said that Bill always leaves the convention the day after his speech -- nm
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No, not at all. But, leaves the bank with no money to loan.
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This "true Christian" leaves judgment to God.
Bush leaves legacy of 'Bushisms'
07:49 PM CST on Saturday, January 3, 2009
Associated Press
President George W. Bush will leave behind a legacy of Bushisms, the label stamped on the commander in chief's original speaking style. Some of the president's more notable malaprops and mangled statements:
-- "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." -- September 2000, explaining his energy policies at an event in Michigan.
-- "Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?" -- January 2000, during a campaign event in South Carolina.
-- "They misunderestimated the compassion of our country. I think they misunderestimated the will and determination of the commander in chief, too." -- Sept. 26, 2001, in Langley, Va. Bush was referring to the terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks.
-- "There's no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will fail." -- Oct. 4, 2001, in Washington. Bush was remarking on a back-to-work plan after the terrorist attacks.
-- "It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber." -- April 10, 2002, at the White House, as Bush urged Senate passage of a broad ban on cloning.
-- "I want to thank the dozens of welfare-to-work stories, the actual examples of people who made the firm and solemn commitment to work hard to embetter themselves." -- April 18, 2002, at the White House.
-- "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." -- Sept. 17, 2002, in Nashville, Tenn.
-- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -- Aug. 5, 2004, at the signing ceremony for a defense spending bill.
-- "Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." -- Sept. 6, 2004, at a rally in Poplar Bluff, Mo.
-- "Our most abundant energy source is coal. We have enough coal to last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental challenge." -- April 20, 2005, in Washington.
-- "We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job." -- Sept. 20, 2005, in Gulfport, Miss.
-- "I can't wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs." -- Sept. 5, 2005, when Bush met with residents of Poplarville, Miss., in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
-- "It was not always a given that the United States and America would have a close relationship. After all, 60 years ago we were at war." -- June 29, 2006, at the White House, where Bush met with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
-- "Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to families who die." -- Dec. 7, 2006, in a joint appearance with British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
-- "These are big achievements for this country, and the people of Bulgaria ought to be proud of the achievements that they have achieved." -- June 11, 2007, in Sofia, Bulgaria.
-- "Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit." -- September 2007, in Sydney, Australia, where Bush was attending an APEC summit.
-- "Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech." April 16, 2008, at a ceremony welcoming Pope Benedict XVI to the White House.
-- "The fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there's jobs at the machine-making place." -- May 27, 2008, in Mesa, Ariz.
-- "And they have no disregard for human life." -- July 15, 2008, at the White House. Bush was referring to enemy fighters in Afghanistan.
-- "I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office." -- June 26, 2008, during a Rose Garden news briefing.
-- "Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and growing nation of more than 300 people." -- July 4, 2008 in Virginia.
-- "The people in Louisiana must know that all across our country there's a lot of prayer -- prayer for those whose lives have been turned upside down. And I'm one of them. It's good to come down here." -- Sept. 3, 2008, at an emergency operations center in Baton Rouge, La., after Hurricane Gustav hit the Gulf Coast.
-- "This thaw -- took a while to thaw, it's going to take a while to unthaw." Oct. 20, 2008, in Alexandria, La., as he discussed the economy and frozen credit markets.
and the slug leaves her snail tracks all over the board once again
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He is an elected official which leaves him open for publicity -
They do not have to have his permission to run his pictures.
First Iraq and now Bush leaves New Orleans rebuilding to future President.
Bush: New Orleans may need a decade
NEW ORLEANS, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- As he headed for the Gulf Coast on Monday, U.S. President George Bush told an interviewer he expects the rebuilding of New Orleans to take a decade.
Bush planned to spend the anniversary of the U.S. Gulf Coast landfall of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans after a visit to Biloxi, Miss. It was his 13th visit to the devastated area.
We can rebuild buildings, the question is can we rebuild its soul, he told April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks. We can. I believe, 10 years from now April, you and I will be thinking about our time here, and trying to remember what it was like 10 years ago
Bush came under fire last year for apparently ignoring Katrina immediately after New Orleans flooded and then flying over the city in Air Force One.
Later White House spokeswoman Dana Perrino said she wasn't aware of a specific time period but that the president has said all along that it would take more than a year to rebuild New Orleans.
In terms of like, 10 years, I don't know about exact time frame, but it's certainly going to take several years, Perrino said.
No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
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If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
I do. Leaves the door wide open for blatant health care fraud..
Is there room for one more............sm
I echo all the sentiments expressed here. I believe that God will put the man in this office that needs to be there. I have been praying for this election for some time and that God's will be done. Regardless whether "my man" wins or not, I pray God's guidance for the man that is in office because I believe he will have a lot of work to do. For the man who does not get in office, he will have a lot of work to do still in the Senate and can be a very effective leader from there.
I am happy to have this forum where we can all come together and "cuss and discuss" things. I know I may have been a bit abrasive to some here, and if I have offended, then I truly apologize. You see, I love to argue......errrr, debate....most any subject and sometimes get a bit carried away, but truly none of my words were meant to be hurtful or insulting, and If they were, again, I apologize. 
All the best to each of you and I hope that, whoever wins the election, your life will be blessed.
Now, back to business................
I'd like to see Ann escorted into a room ....
...of pie-bearing New York City first responders and let her explain herself to them.
You got that right. Just imaging how much room
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BDayes gets at least as much room
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Never has been. Trying to make room
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you should go to the emergency room
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sam, you have no room to call anyone
your posts speak for themselves, and frankly I'm done reading them. Arrogant? No, just tired of talking to a brick wall. You call me arrogant and closed-minded and yet you're the one who doesn't want to concede a single point. You have to have the last word on everything, but we'll see who has the last word when the votes are counted.
So I should stick myself in a room
and never go anywhere because it's everyone's right to display sex drugs and violence everywhere? Where is my right to live in a society that doesn't bombard us day and night with those lifestyles?
We do not have enough room for our own prisoners.
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That's the elephant in the room...
that very few posters on this forum are willing to acknowledge. They would much rather pay to kill people overseas than give a penny to the poor in this country. Pretty sickening, if you ask me!
But he has so much ''wiggle room''
explaining the VAT. He can claim that he is not charging the people a new tax. He is charging the growers, manufacturers, haulers and merchants. (As if magically this is not a cost of doing business to be borne by the consumer.)
I always have to laugh when people yell, ''raise taxes corporations.'' Who do they think ultimately pays that tax? It is the end user of any product. Raise corporate taxes and anyone who purchases goods or services from that company pays a higher price for it. So it is a tax on all citizens/consumers, just indirect and invisible.
You and JTBB might want to get a room.
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You have a lot of room to call someone else a liar...
I saved the conversations, so I know the truth and that is what is important. You have lied so long under so many monikers to so many people you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you.
I did not lie about the bashing thing. I am not bashing you and I never said you email stalked me or threatened me, that was another poster. However, I WAS emailed in nasty, nasty terms when I was silly enough to give someone from this board my email address. It could have been you under still another moniker. I don't know that to be a fact.
Geezzz...talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You lied about being Taiga and Teddy until you slipped up yourself, and I have those conversations saved. I don't know if they are in the archives or not, as many posts were deleted, but I have them...I know you, Taiga/Teddy, in all your chameleon monikers and personalities...and you KNOW I do.
As you said...WHATEVER. lol.
My husband said....Put all the people in a room....sm
that have known Obama for years and years and can vouch for his character and things he has truly done and been influenced by....put them in a room, these people from the last 25 years ago, from his college days until he ran for public office.
Where are these people?
Who are they? Where are they hiding?
It just might be an empty room. That's another scary thing to me.
You might have either have Rev. Wright, Ayers, and a bunch of socialists.....but he dumped them under the bus and says they never influenced him...so really...empty room?
Where are they? Obama doesn't want us to know who they are maybe?
So....No one in the room at all.
I had to leave the room when NP and BF were speaking
I absolutely got sick!
Wow! There are people protesting outside the room.
People were just yelling something about the bailout and somebody yelled "Put the money in the food bank so people can eat."!!!
Sure, but I'd rather be in a small room with a caterpillar!
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Get a room? Something on my nose? Simply
because I was polite to someone, chose to give one of the "nice" ones the benefit of the doubt while finding posts like yours uninformative, childish and a pure waste of keystrokes?
I agree, given the never-ending bitterness and hatefulness you have, it will all come back to bite you in the butt some day. One usually gets back what they give.
No thanks!. Was just checking on the kids room.
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How about A ROOM for JTBB & Marman! sm
Apparently these 2 have more time than anyone else. The few times I even refresh the MQ section, they seem to have a leg up on the whole show. It's all the time!
Honestly, it's just tiresome!
Sho you right. Not enough room in society for evil perverts.
Keep it coming, you make plenty sense. I enjoy your posts so much :):)
Not thinking logically....you have room to talk....
you obviously don't know squat about how the government is run, but I am sure some of your fellow Democrats (try Harry Reid) could explain to you how there is a budget, and there are certain monies that go into each budget and they don't cross over...although I have to agree in spirit, the way the Democrats have raped Social Security and pulled money from it to put into other entitlement programs that fell short...yeah, I am sure the Democrats could get the money from somewhere. And if you do not see the difference in funding our military and funding social programs...talk about a person without sound judgment. I don't know why when you Democrats (or some of you) get backed into a corner you want to start personally attacking people, telling them they are not thinking logically and without sound judgment and run the the favorite Dem backup, the war, the war, the war.
As to the cigarette tax..I am not a smoker, never have been, but it seems erally arrogant to me to single out a certain portion of society to almost double a tax on to pay for this. In what alternate reality is that FAIR?? Many of them are ones who would be users of the SCHIP program. If you are asking THEM to fund their own "free" insurance, should you not be willing to do the same? You sign up to have an extra 3% taken off the top of your gross income to be dedicated to SCHIP. You are behind it 100%. Everyone who signs up to use it signs up to have an additional 3% of their income off the top given to SCHIP. All Democrats who want to expand the program, pledge 3% off the top of your gross income from now until you die. You fund it. Works for me. You won't hear me complain.
Someone who understands that chat room bashing
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Guess he didn't have room for his beloved pie.
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LOVE this shot of him. A man, alone with his pie.
Obama has no room to talk about earmarks....and neither he nor Biden...
have much room to talk about flip flopping. Ahem.
Enter the elephant in the room not beind discussed
Under the Obama administration, reform in trade agreements, incentives to keep jobs stateside and targets plans to make it easier to unionize will be changing that picture. Pubs have lost this grip, no matter how loud they protest, how many GOP alert memos they send or how hard they pretend otherwise. Look for the unions to make a long overdue comeback. Then we shall see just how outdated they are.
Bush said Obama asked to see the room where his girls would sleep -
Bush said it was obvious that Obama was going to be a family man even in office.
hotel room, like the guy said, the Alaska plane is not a famil station wagon. Sounds like fat cat to
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Issues
Certainly I agree the issues you mention must, must, MUST have our attention. However, what we are doing this year is chosing a leader. In my most humble opinion it is of the utmost importance to know what kind of person we are chosing to lead us. We absolutely must look beyond what the politicians say; we must study their character and with whom they associate. As the saying goes, birds of a feather flock together.
As a life long Democrat, I am totally against Obama. There are a number of reasons, not the least of which is his choice of pastors. I believe his chosen church is a radical, devisive, racist group. If Pastor What's His name isn't enough; what about the priest who delivered the sermon ridiculing Hillary in that same church? By no means am I a supporter of Hillary Clinton but that show was disgusting. Neither can I support John McCain. I have changed my registration from Democrat to Independent because neither mainstream political party represents my values. My voice will be heard in the election but I will do a write-in for Lou Dobbs. Would he make a good or great leader? I don't know. He talks the talk but would he walk the walk? The only thing any of us can do is to vote and vote our convictions......and pray.
you have issues
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