SP's announcement sparked it, not me.
Posted By: Just trying to make the best of it..sm on 2008-09-02
In Reply to: If it is so important, where was it before Sarah Palin... - sam
I am not trying to validate any such thing, but that suggestion would appear to some that you are trying to escalate this into a fight it and feels like bullying. During an election people act and react. Comparing party platforms, policies and positions on ANY subject is not spin.
I am also not trying to "fool" anybody, though that innuendo is the same kind of spin you are trying to accuse me of. It serves no purpose except to diminish your credibility.
The debate will be had now that SPs situation is out there. I am just trying to get it away from her daughter and into the broader context where it belongs.
You have a choice here. You can bash it, spin it, deny it, avoid it and slam people who engage in and get all self-righteous and pompous OR you can step up and justify/defend your party's platform and/or your views on these very REAL political issues. Whatever you decide, these issues are not going away any time soon.
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It also mentioned a birth announcement
"Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4."
Now, while that may not be a legal document, I highly doubt that way back on August 4, 1961, Obama's mother decided to state that he was born in Hawaii because some day he might grow up to be president.
There was no legal reason why she would have done that. He would have been considered a citizen, even if he had been born in Kenya. Maybe not natural born, but legal, and she would have had no reason to lie ... way, way, way back then.
Either way, what you're stating is that several INDEPENDENT organizations, including a legal court of America, are lying or covering up the truth FOR Obama.
It's a paranoid accusation to a very high degree, and I think, if nothing else, the campaigns this year have done nothing but heighten these delusions.
On both sides, even.
The Obama birth question may forever live in the annals of conspiracy theory - along with the U.S. moon landing "hoax" and the presence of reptilians who can shapeshift at will - but it would behoove our country to recognize it as an unproductive, divisive conspiracy theory that deserves much less attention than, say, a strong, compassionate, united nation.
Where in the announcement does it say he was born in Hawaii...
If you listened to Michael Savage's interview, he actually had the newspaper with the announcement. It does not state the location of the birth. It just made an announcement.
Our local newspaper always has announcements for births and many of those births are from other states, etc. It is just an announcement to let the community know that one of their members had a child, grandchild, etc.
In the two weeks after Biden's announcement, the same thing happened...
Biden and Obama were on the trail and Biden always spoke first. You just didn't see that as much because of the love affair the mainstream media has with Obama. They only showed his part of the speech. Same thing is happening, being handled differently by the media, probably to portray exactly the impression that you are getting from it.
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