Respectfully this is the difference between sm
Posted By: MT30+ on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: My biggest problem with religion - Trigger Happy
CChristianity and other religions. If you go to the graves of other religious "leaders" the grave will hold bones and dust. The tomb for Jesus is empty because he has arose and is alive forever more. There is a difference between religion and salvation and even some Christian denominations are nothing more than religion and there is no salvation or rerepentence to it. Not all those professing to be Christians are going to be in heaven either. Only those washed in the blood of Jesus Christ with their sins forgiven will be there.
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respectfully
let's keep away from the "I heard" stuff. There is enough misinformation already without adding to it with stuff that can't be verified. Let's stick to the facts.
What, may I respectfully ask, does this prove?
Lebanon and Israel have a long and colourful history of conflict. I am not quite sure what this letter is meant to prove. Hezbollah has used Lebanese residential areas to set up their missles and attack bases. Israel retaliates for the abduction of their people. But first, they drop leaflets, warning civilians to leave. Really, quite a first for this sort of thing. I'm very sorry, but I, for one, am bloody tired of Israel being made the aggressor here. Hamas and Hezbollah have pounded them nearly to oblivion and all you can worry about is a letter from the Lebanese?! I am astounded.
Respectfully....I don't agree...
A radical socialist (Obama) and a majority democratic congress who leans socialist are a mixture that does not bode well for the country. Add to that money men behind him who are radical socialists...now there is change I am not the least bit interested in. Not getting worked up...but definitely concerned.
I would respectfully ask for the same consideration.
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I respectfully disagree s/m
and I say respectfully because apparently you are a sister TTer (I'm an ex TTer). I think McCain will win by hook or crook. Anyway, the rabid Republicans outnumber the rabid Democrats on the forums in which I participate so if I'm correct, McCain won't have to restort to "crook."
Respectfully to Kaydie
I think you have already decided for whom you are going to vote. Otherwise why keep posting internet gossip about Obama. I've already posted my objections to him and that can be summed up in 1 word, preacher WRIGHT. I struggled with that for a very long time and finally decided I would take a chance on that, a KNOWN fact, enough to make me afraid of where we're headed under his administration without adding anything to it.
As for the place of Obama's birth and his birth certificate....do you REALLY believe if he wasn't eligible to run for the presidency the McCain campaign would not have obtained absolute proof of that??? Get real, of course they would. So as for me...no problem with his birth certificate.
As for his past associations...of course he has associated with shady characters as has McCain. McCain's Keating 5 was one. Do you realize he is the ONLY senator who has been rebuked by the Senate Ethic Committee??? That's quite a record.
Obama commercials...I don't know where you are but the one that plays over and over here in Arkansas is HILARIOUS. I can't tell you the content of the ad because both my husband and I are laughing so hard. It plays often and we welcome the comedy. It shows McCain and his expressions during the debate. At the end is McCain speaking by himself FOR Obama when he says, "I've voted with the president over 90% of the time, more than even some of my party colleagues." That in MCCAIN's own words tells me all I need to know about him. I haven't agreed with Bush on anything since 9/11 when he stood up and made his speech....I became a Republican that day but it sure didn't last long. McCain will bring us more of the same, maybe even worse. So if you've done well the past 8 years and want to continue on that downhill path, by all means vote for McCain. I'm not sure at all that we will like Obama's "change" but I'll take a chance on him before I'll vote FOR McCain.
Funny I have watched all of the debates and speeches and parts of speeches until I'm sick of it. I have yet to hear Obama come close to what I would consider "playing the race card." What I did hear was Palin "he isn't like the rest of us." If that wasn't the race card I don't know what it was. How could Obama possibly play the race card when he is half and half and raised by his WHITE grandmother, the one he says shaped him and I believe him on that.
Nov. 4 can't come fast enough to suit me. Then I guess we can start blaming Democrats/Republicans for our continued downhill course. What we lazy Americans, ALL of us, need to do is get off our lazy butts and do something that will effectively change the course of our country.
I respectfully request
that you not infer that I am not a Christian. I am certainly aware of David and the many other Biblical people. If memory serves me correctly Saul (Paul) was on his way down to Damascus breathing fire in order that he might persecute some more Christians.
Respectfully....I don't know the time frame in which...
these children died. Yes, it is horrible, and yes, the parents responsible for the deaths should be held accountable. But I don't think the answer to that is the murder of 1.2 million babies a year because one of them might be abused. Who are we to make that decision? Why not leave THAT choice up to God?
And I beg to differ...there is absolutely nothing humane about abortion.
May I politely and respectfully direct you
back to God's word? Obviously a little more study and maturing will do you no harm.
I respectfully suggest to you that McCain
Your mistrust is based on the "Who is the REAL Obama" smear campaign. My mistrust of McCain is based on the very fact that I DO know McCain...his record and his campaign have clearly demonstrated he cannot be trust with MY country.
may I refresh your memory... respectfully...
George Bush had the same absence of checks and balances in his favor.
Didn't really work for us, right? Let's see how it works swingin' this way.
I respectfully disagree on one point you made:
*...most of us on the liberal board do not buy *impending doom* theory that you live by.*
I personally will be fearful of *impending doom* for the next 3 years. If I/we can get through that, then I'll be able to relax (a little) as hopefully more Americans will come to their senses.
Respectfully, John Edwards practically bankrupt his state with malpractice lawsuits. SM
He didn't even carry his own state in the election. That should tell you something.
The only difference between
Rudolph and Osama bin Laden is that one is Christian and one is Muslim. Other than that, there is no limit to their hatred.
To say that clinic workers at an abortion clinic are just as guilty as Rudolph is, at its best, INSANE. Those clinic workers broke no laws. Rudolph not only broke the law, he violated the "Thall shalt not kill" commandment that you all claim to believe in.
But, as with Bush in Iraq, it's okay if people kill, as long as they're the people you worship. I truly don't understand people like you, and I don't wish to. Frankly, you all frighten me, and I won't be reading your posts any more because I find them too disturbing.
Difference
I think it is a little bit different when it is coming from the president of the USA than someone driving on a freeway. At least, that is my opinion. Maybe you dont have high expectations for the leaders, I do.
big difference
The attorney is helping the person wronged by the corporation. The corporation is paying lobbyists to change laws so the little hurt guy cant get any satisfaction in court for being hurt. That is the difference. Big difference, if you ask me. Do you think Kenneth Lay lost sleep over all of his employess who lost jobs because of his criminal activity? He says he did but I doubt it.
I see the difference
The government is corrupt. The people are good. I'm so glad that you are posting here. I'm sure the people of Iran only want peace and freedom and to be out from under the rule of mean, evil people. Some people in the United States cannot comprehend what being under a tyrannical leader is all about. They have not experienced it like many countries in the Middle East have. We have a good leader, but many have been led to believe that he is not good. They don't understand that people around the world are being brutally killed and terorized by their own leaders who are supposed to have their best interests in mind. They are the truly oppressed and I pray for them daily. I pray that a peaceful solution will happen in Iran, and that the president will come to understand that he cannot win a war with the rest of the free world who will not let him have nuclear weapons because he has proven to be a man most untrustworthy and threatening to many countries including Israel and the U.S.
I believe the difference...
is between free speech and slander/libel. Everyone has a right to an opinion and to voicing that opinion as long as one does not libel and/or slander a particular individual(s). Since the widows were named and The ***WTC victims*** were not, one is free speech, albeit lunatic fringe free speech, and one is not.
To weigh in on the subject of Coulter; she makes her living saying and writing outrageous stuff. She is a shock jock. If she started writing books like William Safire does, no one would read them and she would not be on every talk show on the airwaves. It is her job to be repugnant and she does it quite well. I don't listen to her, don't read her books. I don't listen to Howard Stern either; nor Rush, nor Grover, nor anyone who makes my blood boil. It is an exercise in futility to try to change anyone's mind on the stuff these people say. You love them or hate them and so I just avoid them.
Same difference
Within 24 hours of taping? I reiterate the point I made above. And when you buy things from a private company unless they state it outright they might turn around sell your information to other advertisers. Unless you can produce where you signed a waiver of privacy, like you do at a doctor's office, you are not guaranteed that your information will be kept private.
I guess any good consumer could elect not to have phone service. That's one way to keep your conversations private. It's a bummer when it comes to communcation, but unless your plotting something illegal you really shouldn't have a problem should you?
Here's the difference between you and I.
I don't expect an apology. I do wonder though, why you rail so against Ann and had not a word to say about Ward Churchill. I would have liked some liberal input on that post and got none. I think what he said was a lot worse.
What's the difference?
It's okay for President Bush to get political but it's not okay for his employers (the American citizens) to do the same thing? That would be the norm in a fascist government ruled by a dictator like Iran. Is that where we're heading in America today?
Grandma's comment regarding the number of American troops killed in Iraq approaching the number of civilians killed on 9/11 was a very relevant comment, considering Bush himself exploited 9/11 in order to justify invading and occupying Iraq when it turns out Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
there IS a difference
i just stated in my above reply that yes I should have clearly stated I meant the people that use it as a form of birth control, who does THAT? not for medical reasons. I see there is a reason for it sometimes, of course.
the difference is
UAW workers were offered the same as workers in the U.S. who work for Honda, Toyota, etc. (not what they are paid working in foreign countries)
Yes, but there's a big difference between - sm
working in the government while concurrently believing in and practicing one's religion for their OWN USE.
What I have a huge problem with is when people use it to try to CONTROL OTHER PEOPLE.
Unfortunately, too many overzealous religious groups worldwide are doing just that.
key difference
Obama has proven himself over and over as thoughtful, knowledgible, and decent. SP has shown she has been heavily coached and has no real understanding or knowledge about foreign affairs. She has to have a teleprompter or a speech written for her. You in fact stated she kept the money from the Bridge to Alaska, confirming she has been repeating a lie about rejecting it on the campaign trail everyday..As far as Obama on O'Reilly. Of course I did not watch. The last thing I watched about Bill O'Reilly was where he threw the temper tantrum and ripped off the mike and threw on the counter and shouted obscenities at the staff because he did not understand the cue card.
I do believe him. What is the difference in....
believing him and believing what Obama says? Obama had lobbyists working for him; until just a month ago Joe biden's son was a professional lobbyist. Indeed, let's try to be objective here.
What's the difference?
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difference
One of the big differences between Palin and Clinton was their educations and years of experiences. How many years and how many colleges did it take Palin to get a journalism degree? Shows me that she really isn't that bright.
The difference is......
If it's not being put on this country's balance sheet as a HUGE debt, which is proper protocol for any business, that means they are saying it doesn't exist, it will just go away, and it will not be counted as liability. Who in the heck does that? You take your books to your local CPA and tell him you want him to do that and watch the look he gives you....... the look will be "fraud", and his response will be, "Uh, no, that is illegal", I don't do that".
If they want to pretend it is not our country's debt, then ask yourself who is overlooking the debt and what are they really doing with it......or better question, ask what they are really doing with your money? Without it being on the top line of the balance sheet, there is nothing that regulates they have to pay anything off. Get it?
There is a difference between the two
The consertatives you list are political commentators. They can have their own shows and columns, etc. Many liberals do.
Huffington Post puts itself out there as a newspaper, a NEWS source if you will. Problem is, they are all biased to the left so it's not being fair. Should not be called a newspaper if they can't be fair on both sides.
JMHO.
The difference is you believe her, I don't. S/M
And please, Sam, spare me the "sheeshes" and "good griefs." I don't belittle YOU because YOU don't agree with me. I never said anything about throwing her under the bus. She is looking out for herself and I feel sure her eyeballs are on the nomination for the 2012 election. If they are elected and I am wrong about them, you'll see me here fessing up.
What's the difference?
Investigating voter fraud and/or fraudulent candidate is one way to fix the economy. Do you really want someone in charge of your money that has paid a corrupt organization to pay people to go out and enlist voters, the same voter over and over, which by the way is illegal, as well as doctor documents and fraudulently sign people up that do not exist, including those already deceased, just to get the job? Anyone who would want that deserves whatever economy they get I suppose.
Obama's taxing us more to pay for all his social programs sure as heck isn't a way to fix the economy or have you overlooked that very significant point?
I think even you know the difference between the
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For those of you who don't know the difference...
between American news and real world news, here's a suggestion:
http://www.linktv.org/
Before you start in by saying, well that's just more liberal media, look who contributing authors are and where they are from. This is just one example of real world news. Step outside of the box for a while.
Big difference there
You are talking about a city of rapists, they raped men and women. This is not a story about a gay couple living as a married couple.
There's a difference...(sm)
Electing a president -- constitutional
Taking away civil rights -- unconstitutional.
If the majority were to rule in all instances, you would not have had the right to vote.
Big difference in an HMO and the
provision in this bill. Don't like the HMO, you can go somewhere else. With total government control, where will you go? No where, just kow tow. I don't know anyone who could think it is right to withhold medical care from the infirm, the elderly, and children with devastatinly incurable diseases, anyone not deemed by government as being a productive citizen worthy of having medical care, those who will be a drain on the healthcare system. I don't want to know anyone who could support withholding medical care from the most vulnerable in our country.
See, maybe that's the difference.
Mom made it without any meat in it, which I guess really shouldn't be considered chili, but that's what she called it. It was more tomato base and chili powder with beans and macaroni. Not really tasty at all and I still can't pass chili at the store or at a restaurant without cringing.
But the difference is..
He had, what? 8 years to put us in this mess?
You people are so excited about seeing PRESIDENT Obama fail, that you practically shout with glee when you think he is over his head.
He is very intelligent, unlike the past president, and will get us out of this mess.
The difference between me and you...(sm)
is that you think it's the end of the world if you have to help someone else, while I consider it a privilige to be in the position to do so. Greed isn't going to make all our problems go away. It didn't help anything over the last 8 years and it won't help in the future. The sooner people figure that out, the sooner we have a chance at actually restoring this country to what it should be.
What would be the difference ?
She said she was trying to end her pregnancy..........
but if she had been trying to commit suicide, the baby would have died as well. So where are the boundaries? The mother may have lived but the baby die or still end up born and in critical condition. What's the difference? They would no doubt go after her anyway for injury to her now born child but abortion is still perfectly okay because our government has no problem with the mother ending her pregnancy with the help of a physician but they do have a problem with a mother trying to end her pregnancy herself WITHOUT the aid of a doctor.
Go figure!!
How sorry for you that you don't know the difference!!!
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One big difference.
I am not telling this person what to do like you are. I am defending this person's right to choose. What she chooses to do is her business, not your business, my business, or anyone else's business.
There's no difference in what was in there before
And what is in there now. The same people running the country before are still running the country now.
Your point on foreign policy...let's see...the annointed one still is sending troops in an unjustified war. Since you think he's so much better than Bush was and it was all Bush's fault that 911 happened, then the O should pull our troops back because now that he's president nothing like that will ever happen again. Therefore we don't need to be at war anymore. The annointed one's plan for being at war, sending more troops to war, not having a timeline to bring our troops home, etc, etc, really shows the lack of experience and knowledge he has in foreign affairs. And so much for being the savior of the world as he was told at the G20 that "not no, but he!! no are we going to send our troops to a war you insist on continuing with".
I would not dismiss the whole torture thing yet, but am sure if it continues on you'll be fine with it because it's being done under the O's watch and that's just fine with you.
Then there is trippling the deficit, continued layoffs, the "hope" campaign tactic totally forgotten now that he's in. Americans have nothing to hope for or plan for. And this goes to show how little knowledge and experience he has in domestic affairs.
The time for "I feel your pain" is over. The time for him to keep his campaign promises is here. I often wonder if the girl (who boasted on TV that she doesn't have to worry about paying her rent, gas, or bills anymore). I wonder if she's gotten her checks from the O yet. I doubt it.
Growing government twice the size or more of what we had. Not honoring his promise to do away with the patriot act, but instead he's signed it and it's worse than it ever was under the Bush administration. Forcing young adults 18-24 to be drafted (but calling it volunteer mandatory - an oxymoron), not taxing people under 250K, oops I mean 225K, oops I mean 200K, oops I mean 150K. Any hopes I had for a decent person to hold the office, decent people in congress to work for the people and not for themselves, and any hopes for a future have fast dwindled.
And you posted an MSLSD article? Pleeeeaase. They lost any credibility a long time ago. Now they are just a bunch of whiny children because they are losing so many viewers.
The difference is............ sm
that "teabagging" or "teabaggers" is considered an offensive sexual term whereas Kool-aid drinkers and Obamatrons is not. I know you know the difference based on the last paragraph of you post.
Do you not know the difference...(sm)
between speech that incites violence versus voicing one's opinion? On Hannity's website he listed 3 types of revolutions (all of which would be violent -- as in no option for a peaceful revolution) and asked which one would you choose. That would be the same as asking someone would you like to stab, drown or suffocate this person? What do you honestly think the implication is with this type of rhetoric? Get a clue.
there is a big difference
A business is there to make money; a church or religious gathering is there to worship. Congregations of people do not form the basis of a business, the intent to make a profit does.
Here's the difference...(sm)
Yeah, there are far left nut jobs just like on the right. However, we (the left) recognize those nut jobs and don't defend them. You guys do defend your nuts.
The homeland security report that came out specifically pointed out threats by extremist right-wingers. So what did you guys do? You defended them by demanding an apology. So, what I see is that you self identified with what was pointed out to be extremists. Why? I believe it's because that's where the base of the pub party is right now.
exactly right. Not much difference regarding
foreign policy, had Mousavi won, but still a better negotiator for Obama.
The difference is.....
An independent has "independent thought". An independent sees the good and bad of both sides, and makes their decisions and thought processes based on the substance of the material being discussed and uses their own reasoning to come to conclusions.
A liberal is much much different (as are the uber-conservatives). Both parties are tied to the parties (even though they say they vote based on the person - they do not). They like to hide and pronounce they are independent when they know are not. They don't think for themselves, they will always blame the other side for everything and never take responsibility in their own party. They cannot think on their own and they believe word for word what people like Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, Hannity, and other propagandists for their party spew (yes I can name some others but you get the point). Liberals and uber-conservatives do not meet anyone down the middle. It's their way or the highway and they are arrogant.
So - an idependent is a free thinker. A liberal and uber-conservative does not think on their own and they just spew what they are told is the way it should be. And they don't think and realize something is wrong with the picture because "Olberman/Matthews or Hannity said it is".
Also an independent does not resort to calling people names and does not have the elitist attitude that they are "better than thou" and they don't say to right to your face like the libs do.
The only difference is...
so far OUR government hasn't responded by beating some of us to death or shooting some of us...though the way Barry is giving more and more control to the government (him) and less and less to the people (us)....who knows where we will be by the time his term is over. Heck, by then, he may just declare himself President again and dispense with the voting...sigh.
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