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This is so very curious. I never said I was anything like her at all, she never said she was anything like me. She and I don't know each other and neither of us really have a lot in common aside from a few basic beliefs. Why have you chosen to compare us? Why not compare me to Democrat, LVMT, Gadfly..... I guess that's about all that post here anymore,,,,,what is your point in doing this? It seems like it is a platform to repeatedly put me down. But really, you can succeed in doing that without dragging other posters in on this charade.

I have no desire to compare you to anyone and then perseverate and perserverate on that point. Yes, please, find a different horse to beat or whatever it is you are doing.

Just go to page #11 and see the posts on 7/20 and 7/21 where she took MT's abuse, let it roll off her back and tried to debate with her, watched as MT was close to having a seizure and then told her to chill.

Reading the archives is interesting. LOL. Even see one where MT denies being a conservative and then says she'll never post here again.

I'm going to take him at his word, not that it matters much to me which religion he practices. What matters to me is his character, and I'd put that way above some that I've witnessed on this board.

America is NOT "only" a Christian nation any longer. America promises freedom of religion for EVERYONE, not just Christians.

He was just pointing out that sometimes literal translations of the Bible aren't applicable. In other words, he made sense.

Hey, kids! Do you ever get tired of Fox News' crops? I don't mean the food
they might be literally growing, in Glenn Beck's Doom Room, in preparation for
Imminent Socialist Panic. I'm talking about the way they manipulate video to
make it look like people are just straight up saying the opposite thing they
actually said. Well, it's been bothering the media critics at Media Matters For
America for some time, and they have, for a long time, been cataloging "examples
of Fox News hosts and correspondents cropping comments by progressives and
Democratic political figures in a manner that misrepresents them." A new mash-up
video offers some side-by-side examples of what they're talking about.

Some constructive criticism? I think the third example -- Obama's "empathy"
criteria for Supreme Court justice -- isn't the best example of a Fox cropping.
While it's certainly true that Major Garrett's statement, "That aggravates those
who feel that justices should follow the Constitution and legislative intent,"
seems to neatly ignore the fact that Obama's next statement was "I will seek
someone who is dedicated to the rule of law, who honors our Constitutional
traditions, who respects the integrity of the judicial process, and the
appropriate limits of the judicial role," the fact is, just about every news
organization honed in on the "empathy" part of the statement. It became the
sound bite from that press exchange.

In a more lengthy report, however, Media Matters has other candidates that
are fitting examples of these games with videotape, well worth reviewing. Key
examples include Sean Hannity's intentional omission of Obama's admonishment of
Europeans' "casual...insidious" anti-Americanism to make it look like Obama was
apologizing for the United States, and Wendell Goler's splice-happy report that
made it look like Obama was in favor of "European-style health care," when he
was actually specifically opposing it. Also close to my heart is Fox's
misleading insertion of an out-of-context Joe Biden clip into a report, for
which the network eventually had to apologize. At the time, I opined:

It's very sad, and weird, because Fox News would have made their point just
fine if they hadn't included the misleading part of this clip. All they've
really done is demonstrate that they do not have enough faith in their own
editorial premises to avoid bolstering them with falsehoods. But more to the
point, whoever is responsible for putting this video together needs to accept a
new prevailing reality, that stupid little lies like this will be debunked and
exposed very quickly, so they may as well just cut out this nonsense
entirely.

the middle class person's best friend! Funny how now he wants to help us, when each time he had the opportunity to, he voted against it.

right down to the fruit trees and the garden.

I will have to admit though that gardening is a huge hobby of mine, so it wasn't all about the coming depression.

They report on stories other networks ignore -- would that be the real ones or the ones they make up?

It's a sad day in America, and I hope we can hold out and hold on through the next stormy four years. -- I guess the last 8 years were a peach (the results of which we are seeing now).

I was thinking just a little more casual. Alcohol and dancing will be involved, so the heels are out. Love the halters, but I do believe polka dots are in order. -- Maybe a simple polka dot poodle skirt, plain tailored top, a scarf (of course), and some cat-eye glasses.

Joe the Plumber, Now Joe the War Correspondent in Israel, Is Still Joe the Clown

By Robert Schlesinger, Thomas Jefferson Street blog

Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, aka Joe the Plumber, aka Joe the War Correspondent, has been in the Middle East on his new covering-the-war-as-a-reporter gig long enough to conclude that reporters should not be permitted to cover wars. Alas, I think he was referring to reporters not named Samuel J. Wurzelbacher.

To be honest with you, I don't think journalists should be anywhere allowed war [sic]. . . . I liked back in World War I and World War II, when you'd go to the theater and you'd see your troops on the screen and everyone would be real excited and happy for them. Now everyone's got an opinion and wants to down soldiers�our American soldiers, our Israeli soldiers. I think media should be abolished from reporting.

Memo to Joe the Propagandist: That's been tried. Do you remember Baghdad Bob? He was certainly good for entertainment, though I can't speak to troop morale. It's been tried by people in other countries as well, some of whom were the villains in those newsreels Joe the Historian recalls so fondly.

Let's skip the basic civics lesson about the role of a free press in a free society; and let's skip slippery-slope questions like: If Joe the Philosopher is right, then when engaged in a "war" without front lines, should independent media be abolished entirely? (Could we keep sports reporting?)

And while it may not occur to Joe the Television Consumer that people might have ever gotten their news in any fashion other than from a screen, war correspondents existed well before either of the World Wars. Reporters like Edward R. Murrow and Ernie Pyle were revered and beloved by not only the soldiers but by families back home anxious for news�not propaganda�about what was going on at the front. The military worked to keep Pyle at the front lines for morale reasons during World War II�and he was killed there by sniper fire.

I covered the Pentagon�which is not to suggest that I was a war correspondent�for a couple of years for the Boston Globe. I once had the opportunity to see retired Gen. Harold Moore speak about military-media relations. Moore fought in Korea and Vietnam. Joe the Film Critic might remember Moore as having been played by Mel Gibson in the 2002 movie We Were Soldiers about the famous IA Drang battle in Vietnam. The movie was based on a book Moore cowrote with�wait for it�a reporter who was there with the troops.

Moore told us that he had welcomed reporters in Vietnam. "I just loved for my troops to get bragged about and for the press to write up my troops," Moore told us. "I was so darn proud of my troops for what they were doing in that tragic war."

When we asked Moore about the notion that the media lost the Vietnam War by ginning up criticism at home, he replied: "That didn't bother me. People in America have a freedom to do that. I fought in a couple of wars for that freedom."

But I'm sure Joe the Military Strategist knows more about such things than does Hal the General.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/01/13/joe-the-plumber-now-joe-the-war-correspondent-in-israel-is-still-joe-the-clown.html