Recycled smear, some of it 2 years old.
Posted By: It didn't work then. sm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Fox New Program on Obama - Sunday night 10/12 - see message
It's not working now. We will be impatiently waiting for McCain to turn the page back to the economy and start acting like a serious presidential contender.
PS. What's all the shouting about anyway? this is old, old, old news.
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Thanks, but no thanks. Your link is recycled
and when I followed it then, it gave my computer a virus that I had to deep scan and fix...it took nearly 4 hours...all for regurg. Not the slightest bit convincing. Your conspiracy theory is based on a false premise. It will never fly.
No smear here
No, I am not trying to smear. I do actually believe that conservatives are quick to declare war and this so bloody disgusting fiasco with Iraq proves my belief. The powers that be in DC have been salivating for at least since Bush Sr about invading and taking over and building a military base/presence in Iraq. These were and are very prominent conservatives, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld among them. I do believe conservatives think we can and have the right to invade and take over wherever we please, especially if it pertains to oil. There is a saying. The soldiers go to war republicans but come back democrats and that about sums it up. If this administration had been in the military, they would not have been so quick to choose war over diplomacy and, yes, I do also fault the democrats who so quickly chose this war. I shake my head every time I see on TV a soldier being memorialized at his/her funeral. For goodness sake, I would rather have them home, alive, then dead and memorializing their funeral.
Smear tactics?
Obama was asked this question, one of a few journalist with some integrity, as to why he allowed these women to be removed? After all, he knew it but didn't stop it. He stumbled and fumbled and fumbled and stuttered for words because he is so used to having no one ask him the hard questions, he didn't know what he should say because anything at that point would have been back peddling and he knew it.
Obama out of his own mouth, not made up stuff like you want to believe, said he had gotten himself a little 'ole Muslim liason to help smooth things over, because the last people he wants to offend are the Muslims, Heaven forbid he offends the Muslims. The heck with offending the taxpayer by insinuating they are too dumb to handle their own lives, so he'll handle it for ya by providing all your needs.
Smear = Fear
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Another lie. Another SMEAR=FEAR.
Please stop spreading lies.
It's not a smear campaign and it's not a failure
The reality of what Mrs. or should I say Ms., Sheehan is doing speaks for itself. The Swift Boat thing surely didn't get your boy Kerry in the office now did it?
This board is the epitome of smear
and you dare make that statement...arrogance rules this board.
desperate smear tactics. nm
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So you are mumping now from the messiah smear
There is nothing in your characterization of Obama's position on small business that remotely resembles and accurate statement. Not only can you not hear, you obviously can't read either.
Obama and Biden have posted an extremely detailed plan in the Blueprint for Change that describes very creative and innovative ways in which small businesses will be supported and encouraged. The tax cuts and who will benefits can also be found there. I see noting in McCain's plan that compares.
Run another guilt by association smear campaign
watch that landslide turn into a monster avalanche. Some people never learn.
Looks like O is getting ready to turn that ACORN smear
Asking DOJ for special prosecutor to investigate Bush-McCain vote fraud scheme. Now, this story is going to start growing some real teeth. 2000. 2004. 2008....NOT.
As totally unbiased as the smear campaign on the CON board....?
And before casting aspersions on others?
For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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In 100 years, no one will that's for sure. NM
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Could be, he's never come on TV? Years ago maybe?
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oh, okay, but he followed him for 20 years!
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Which was 4 years ago....
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You were 16 years old once...
what if it was said about you, about your daughter if you had one....or about your mother when you were 16?.....come ON now. YOu know how vulnerable girls are at that age. That was a really really really LOW below the belt hit. Mean and nasty.
Except for the first 6 years.
In other words, 75% of the time. Even when they did, they didn't. It's kinda hard to advance a meaningful agenda when being subjected to the acid ink in the runaway veto pen.
I think it's because he's up in years
I also get the same impression, but to be realistic one must consider that she may become President if something were to happen to him.
what, are you now 2 years old?
i just have to roll my eyes sometimes.
Well, a few years ago when we had that...
stocket market tank (all though it did not last all that long) was enough for me...took my 401K money (not a huge amount, but I need it to be there) and put it in traditional IRA's that in federally insured bank. I am not young enough to let it build back up with stock market ups and downs. Younger folks a lot more years in the work force can wait for it to build back up (and it always has), but I can't take the risk.
I don't think small private banks are at risk.
It was much worse than this when Carter was in the White House and we managed to get through that...this too shall pass. A little saying I once heard seems to sum it up...."When one door closes, another opens, but it is he11 in the hallway for awhile." :)
The only way we'd get another 8 years is
if the dems are still in control against a pub president.
I heard the above comment in either an ad or in the debate itself and I almost flipped. You don't hear much about it yet, but it will come out sooner or later (and hopefully sooner).
Yes in in the last two years
the econmy took a dive. Gas prices rose and made the price of everything soar. That is what you get under democratic leadership.
I did years ago n/m
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That's over three years old......you just now
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For 2 years out of 8
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I'm sure you will be for the next 4 years
all the way to the bank with other people's hard earned money...
maybe in 100 years
Our kids will tell stories about us working six days a week, all hours of the day and night to stay at home with them. About how we had no health insurance, but somehow we managed to pay those hospital bills. How the mortgage broker tried to get us to refinance one more time, but we saw through the scam. How did we ever make a car payment for 5 years without going crazy? How we competed with workers in a virtual world and still managed to out produce them. Maybe they will think that we were pretty tough too. I think we are!
Just the first of many to come in the next 4 years....
sorry, I have to raise taxes; sorry, I have to continue the war in Iraq; sorry, I can't provide healthcare for everyone; sorry, I have to change the constitution; sorry, I can't keep any of the promises I made while campaigning; sorry, I have no experience dealing with terrorists, sorry, I fooled you into voting for me.
GP, my DH and I have been saying this for years. sm
We have long been advocates of sending the illegals back, closing our borders, cut the pork, etc. I am so glad there are others out there. This is going to my sens and reps. Especially as DH gave them all an earful yesterday. We need everybody out there to send this along.
I don't have 10-20 years. I have 4
unless I want to work until I'm 70 or 80. What kind of mind will i have then? Will I be able to figure out what a doc is saying?
I'll probably be one of those homeless people in another 10 years unless they straighten out all the problems. I certainly will not be able afford the taxes we pay on our property, even though it's free and clear of a mortgage. At tha rate they expect taxes to rise, I'll be out on the streets.
The O will not be able to stop it. There's too many factors changing the economy. I'm just hoping things wil l straighten out, but I no longer have any faith in our government, no matter who runs the country. The so-called respresentaves are only out for themselves in the past few years and it doesn't matter who's in charge.
Write your congressmen or senators and what do you get? A "canned" letter that they will take your suggestions "under consideration" and "are doing whatever they can to fix the situation". I'm tired of it. It's the same old, same old.
O has reneged on some of his promises already. He spoke in all those other countries when he was running for prez (and isn't there a law against going to a foreign country to make promises(?) if he becomes president? He smoothed over so many countires that they thought they were finally going to get a prez that would straighten out the U.S. and all of a sudden, he is for Israel and against the Muslin terrorists communities. "Scuse me, butl lying to other ountries doesm't cut it.
I can only hope that O will keep some of his other promises bvut I don't see how he can with the economy the way it is at this pointl So all those people who voted for O with the hope of change (remember those who stated they would not have to worry about their mortgage, etc.), it ain't gonna happen.
O is a smooth talker and I almost fell for his ideas, but when I started to really think about it, there's no way he can accomplish all he plans to do, even in 8 yeras.
Well, I'll get off my soap box now. These opinions are mine and mine alone. You may not agree with my thoughts, but there's no reason to bash me for my honest opinion. 
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the advent of the democratic congress, I am a tad worse....
but still better than the Clinton years.
Bracing for getting even worse under the O.
It's a fact that the economy always downturns under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the democratic majority in congress, I am a bit worse, down 20% in earnings.
But still much, much better than the Clinton years.
Bracing for getting even worse under Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Franks, and that whole lot.
It's a fact of economics, that there is always a downturn under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Where were you for the first 6 years
Perhaps you were the one on another planet. Their failures led to the Dems getting control of Congress in the first place.
he's 10 years old
you total doofus. Make him a villain. Guess Art Linkletter was an enabler.
Yes, but how many years did it take?
According to the chart you posted, it took 5 years for it to take effect. People don't have 5 years. They are drowning now.
Some of the stimulus package plans have government programs in that supposedly are to be taken over by the states after 3 years. How can the states absorb these $$ when they're drowning already?
Now, this morning, I heard on the news that they may be nationalizing some banks and, no, it wasn't Fox. I also saw a clip where O was being interviewed by Tim Russert in 1996 and O stated he was NOT going to run for president in 2008. He was elected as a Senator of Illinois and that was going to be his job. He flipped pretty quick, didn't he?
Throughout the years...
I've seen several documentaries on TV about this kind of behavior in Mexico. The kidnappings and murderings have been going on for quite some time really. However, they are getting much worse. Government is losing to the drug cartel and the country is about to go bankrupt. I would seriously warn anyone considering going to Mexico. This isn't all fun and games. This isn't the time for "that couldn't possibly happen to me" attitudes. This is serious stuff. Stay the heck out of Mexico!
Well he was 8 years old.......
11 years ago before there was so much talk about all of this. When I was 8 years old I had a little boyfriend that I would hold hands with, etc. Well, I'm not sure I could call it an "attraction" but I knew I wanted a boyfriend, not a girlfriend. He knew he wanted a boyfriend even at that young age. He is 19 now.
Several years ago
my dad said to dig a canal across the US/Mexico border and fill it with allegators. LMAO!
Maybe I should have said 35 to 40 years ago...
... i.e. at the height of the hippie "free love" era. I know I certainly heard it a LOT from some of the people around me; although I wonder now that I am old and cynical whether the girls blew off marriage as a "piece of paper" 'cause the guys persuaded them that a piece of paper wasn't necessary to prove their love, thus neatly paving the way to duck out of the relationship later, at will, bypassing those pesky legal entanglements....
And for what it's worth, Donny Osmond never did float my boat; by the time he came along I had long since outgrown his apparent demographic.
More like he's had it done to him for years.
EX: "I hope Obama fails."
Taken completely out of context of what he actually said, but continues to be the main bashing point.
When? Only these four years, maybe, when he was
in Jakarta, at the age of 7 to 11, attending a CATHOLIC school!
You do your homework, I did mine!
these 8 (eight) years over!...nm
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Go back 5 years...
Change Bush to Clinton...see a similarity.
We can't wait a few years. Someone needs to......sm
do something to get these parasites out of the White House now.
yes.......I've been following this for years......
So many people in this country don't have a clue what freebies are being handed out. I have seen in my own work doctors questioning how a person who has been in this country for over 30 years, can't speak English at all, and manage to get SSI even. They bring an INTERPRETOR with them when asked questions and then beat around the bush when asked what jobs they have held down, while they sit in the doctor's office complaining they can't work because of disabilities. Yea right!!!! The doctor knows they are here illegally but what can he/she do?
When you look at the gangs in Los Angeles alone, 80 thousand plus, all Latino gangs, illegal from other countries, Mexico, El Salvador, etc., walking the streets, terrorizing the neighborhoods, and we pay for more officers to patrol the streets and get this, they have to ask permission from these thugs to "document" their tattooes, as each tattoo has some gang meaning. 80,000 plus gangs in one city alone. WHat happens when you have these many illegals running the show in a city, you have chaos and fear, the same thing they are doing on the border towns in the U.S., terrorizing citizens, running the show, and we sit around worrying about their rights? What rights? They have no rights? If we would stop quivering like a bunch of babies, go out and round them up like the jackasses they are, and find a way to get rid of them. If their countries won't take them back, and why would they want them either, why should we house and feed their sorry butts. I live in the deep south and we are hearing of them actually branching out their gangs to come into the south because they believe people in the south are dumb and slow and they can infiltrate the area to do their drug dealing and go undetected. I have news for them.....they haven't been on the interstate near our town lately. DEA sits all over the place waiting to stop truckers carrying illegals as well as the drugs they carry and they have already stopped major drug trafficking in this area. It sickens me. I have no pity for people who have no care for human life, only greed of money any way they can get it. They laugh at us....we open up a major thoroughfare from Mexico into the US for truckers and don't think they will use this as a green flag for illegal trafficking of all kinds? We are to blame for not putting an end to it, however that may need to be.
I am not a Republican....but two years is...
plenty of time for the Democrat majority to have done SOMETHING...and they have done nothing...including taking their vacation instead of voting on an energy bill and they claim to care about gas prices. Pardon me if I doubt their sincerity.
I am not a Democrat either. But I know Barack Obama is as much or more invested in Europe as he is in the US, and that does not give me a warm and fuzzy. His Chicago connections, his voting record, his writings, his wife's writings, his pastor, his friends...all of those things send up huge red flags to me. What he is saying now is not anything like what his history and life have been to this point. So I don't trust him. He is way left of Clinton...most liberal voting record in the senate.
McCain has butted heads with Bush several times over the years...he is not a repeat of Bush. All one has to do is look at his record, if one is so inclined. He is not my favorite either; I have some issues with him as well. However, I know he would protect this country and I am not so sure Obama would.
The best thing I can say about George W. Bush is thank God he was President when we were attacked on 9-11, and not Kerry!
This man spent 5 years of sm
his life in the Hanoi Hilton as a prisoner and he didn't walk away from serving his country? Now he is worth waiting in line for. Rock stars come and go. Patriots are here to stay.
Maybe she will run for the top spot in 4 years...who knows??
Yeahhhh.
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