RE: Your last line....Obama is absolutely nothing compared toTeddy R....nm
Posted By: nm on 2008-10-25
In Reply to: How Palin pales in comparison to Teddy Roosevelt. - Let me count the ways.....sm
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Well, that is nothing compared to how Obama is
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I think Palin is being compared to Obama ... sm
More than Biden because McCain is 72 years old (and looking older and more confused and befuddled each day, IMO) and to be realistic, he could very well die not long after being elected, which would immediately make Palin our president. That would be a disaster.
Not even a month ago, few people outside of Alaska had even heard of her. The country is still in the process of getting to know her which isn't happening very quickly because she's not doing any hardhitting interviews - unheard of for a politician at that level (or at least unheard of for a politician who doesn't have anything to hide...)
Come on, she's a politician, she's tough. I'm certain she's up to the interviews, but I find it suspicious that the McCain campaign isn't letting her do those interviews. They are controlling that situation, for what? They don't want her to make a mistake and look bad? They all do that!
I think a lot of people were initially attracted to her with the excitement of a fresh new face, 1st woman VP the Repubs ever nominated, and she's pretty, perky, has a beautiful family, etc. It is exciting. But as more is learned about her past and her idealogy, people I know are going "Oh wait a second, she did what, wants to do what, believes WHAT?! Oh, I don't think so!" I think that's why her poll numbers went up so fast, and have now gone back down so fast. (Actually, I think that's why she isn't doing the interviews, they wanted to keep the excitement and novelty going as long as possible.)
Me personally, I don't hate her. Hate is strong word. I just don't want her anywhere near the White House, esp. as our president.
My biggest problem with her is her extreme religious views. I will freely admit that I am very biased towards people with extreme fundamental religious beliefs. I do not understand or relate to their thinking. I am much more comfortable with people who are "brainy" and scientific, who look at facts and evidence in making their decisions, and I am extremely uncomfortable with anyone who makes decisions based on magical thinking, because they think it's "God's will" or something of that nature. There is just no reasoning with someone like that. We've already had a pres. like that (Bush) and it's been a nightmare.
IMO, people with extreme fringe religious beliefs belong on the fringe, not ruling the free world in the highest office of our land.
Obama Rolls Out New Line of Faith Merchandise
In the face of an economic crisis, Barack Obama has gone into the “faith merchandise” business. He will be peddling a new product line of buttons, bumper stickers and rear-end patches that read “Believers for Barack” and other religious-oriented slogans.
In an apparent attempt to patronize middle America again...those bitter folks whom Obama criticized for clinging to their guns and religion, the Obama religious products apparently represent a last-minute attempt by the campaign to align God with Obama while simultaneously seeking forgiveness from Christians he has offended.
Monday September 15, 2008
Obama Rolls Out New Line of Faith Merchandise
God-o-Meter has learned that the Obama campaign is about to email religious supporters an annoucnement about a new line of Obama faith merchandise--bumper stickers, buttons, and signs with three different messages, featured here--along with the following note:
Dear friends, Great news! We now have faith merchandise available for you to show your support for Barack Obama as a person of faith. Check out the Believers for Barack, Pro-Family Pro-Obama, and Catholics for Obama buttons, bumper stickers and signs....
Believers for Barack rally signs and bumper stickers, along with all Pro-Family Pro-Obama merchandise, are appropriate for people of all faith backgrounds. We'll soon be rolling out merchandise for other religious groups and denominations, but I wanted to get this out to you without delay.
Take good care,
Paul Monteiro
Deputy Director of Religous Affairs
Obama for America
Commie? This is out of line. Obama supporters are educated. nm
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I see absolutely NOTHING about Obama...
that indicates he is a proud patriotic American. Absolutely nothing.
I never said he was a Nazi. I never said he was a communist. He is a far left socialist. If you can look at his history, his associations, and say that he is not a socialist, then I suggest you take your own advice and educate yourself.
Absolutely! Obama supporters seem get that now
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Funny i heard the exact same line from the Obama campaign spokespeople...
this morning. Almost word for word. I would think being endorsed by an outfit under investigation for voter fraud in 10-12 and more states every day would not be a good thing...but that's just me.
Well as far as voter fraud my friend...so far it is all ACORN all the time, and ACORN is not registering Republicans. For a supposedly "neutral" voter organization....kinda tells the tale, don't you think?
I heard 1 time during this entire cycle about possible Republican voter fraud and that was on the part of 1 man. This is a coordinated, organized effort to steal an election.
Excuse me...in Ohio they registered and voted in a single day so there HAVE been votes cast. And when law enforcement investigates or indicts on voter fraud...they are pretty sure fraud occurred. ACORN has even owned up to the fact that yes, there will be fraud, but they can't monitor the people they hired (felons on work release in one state) and can't check every registration.
Obama DOES have a relationship with them. He spoke at their convention last year. He worked with them on Project Vote and helped train the folks going out to register.
Give him a pass, I don't care. Just don't call people cowardly or hate filled because they aren't on the Obama train. That makes you look hate-filled and cowardly...same thing you accuse others of.
Absolutely right, it was Roberts' error, not Obama's
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last line of Matthews piece cut off in error. 1 line sm
complained in a letter to his boss that Matthews had shown a pattern of sexism.
Actually, I answered your posts line by line
about not "allowing" you to have an opinion. Those are your words, not mine. This is a good example of how this discussion has escalated from a simple link to this utter squashed bug nonsense. Why are you not able to simply debate the original issue at hand...the Eric Holder appointment? Too much of an intellectual challenge when somebody presents a THIRD-PARTY alternative viewpoint? You are the one who mentioned losing sleep and I remarked that it was probably unnecessary since you were blowing something out of proportion....something you have been doing all afternoon. You takes things WAY too personally.
compared to
what exactly?
That ain't nothin' compared to
Bush's 2ND inaugural ball which cost 40 million dollars!! Guess you forgot about that one!
Oh gosh, that was nothing compared
to watching my husband listen to any Democrat, ever. He turns red and interrupts constantly. Eventually I shush him and he stomps out of the room, muttering under his breath all the while. Then he's mad at me.  At least Rush is civil.
Perspective. That is nothing compared to what we
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Actually SS is in good shape compared to
Imagine if it had gone to Wall ST like bush wanted?
Yep, being compared to me is certainly a fate worse than death....
lol. But you might want to check the posts to see what I really said and not piglet's version of what I said. I have said over and over again that my opposition to abortion is on a moral level and I would be opposed to it on that level whether I knew God or not. Unless you are saying one must believe in God to have morals?? There are many in this country who oppose abortion on a strictly moral level. There are mainstream Democrats who oppose abortion on a moral level.
Are you morally opposed to murder? Are you morally opposed to stealing? To rape? To child molestation? Do you think you have to be "religious" to oppose those things? People who have never opened a Bible are morally opposed to most of those things. So please stop trying to say that anyone who opposes abortion is a conservative religious zealot. Because it is just not true. You do not have to be religious to have morals and be morally opposed to things that are just plain wrong.
And you all know that deep inside yourselves. Most would never admit it, of course....but you all know it.
$400,000 salary is dirt cheap compared to
Considering the daunting challenges he will in the aftermath of W's slash and burn regime, bringing together warring factions for the sake of cranking up a paralyzed legislative branch, jump starting a frozen economy on the brink of depression, reversing the handywork of the saber-rattling war machine, restoring America's tarnished global image and dodging assassin's bullets around every bend, I'd say he'll be earning every last penny of it.
Hitler was a choirboy compared to your average
Such as Red-Evelope-Woman, for example.
Oh, honey - compared to me, Maxine's an infant.
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We're pussycats compared to some foreign leaders. sm
What's she going to do with them, and anyone else she can't just bully and fire?
I think the only person I ever heard compared to Hitler was Bush
so I don't even get where that came from
It is weird when people accuse you of making the OP's point. Because, it is okay for THEM to say whatever they want, but if anyone opposes them you are everything they are not.
wow, hypocrites to the end
compared to the prior president anyone is a great orator
Listening to one of his speeches is a breath of fresh air compared to listening to Bush.....I'm betting O will make less speaking mistakes in his entire presidency than Bush made in any one given month during his.
Ignore the posts. This board is pretty tame compared to others. sm
On Red State and Daily Kos the ad hom attacks are unbelievable.
The previous owner of this board banned everyone posting anti Bush comments, and there were constant neocon ad hom attacks. I am conservative but these are not my type of Republicans. There used to be a lot of good posters here.
Don't you get it? SP 1st in line. JM=72.
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That is really out of line and
comparing Obama to Hitler? Talk about paranoid. There is nothing to suggest Obama is Marxist or Nazi. This is all hate and pot stirring rhetoric. Boy some people just operate on fear and are sour grapes that the majority of the people have spoken and Obama was chosen.
You really should come up with a better line.
No such thing as Bush juice. But I wouldn't expect less from someone on the kool-aid.
That's the only line you took from the speech...sm
But you think Bush who admits that he did drugs - obviously inhaled or sniffed, and was an alcoholic is a living testimony of credibility. Is there a double standard here?
Newsweek on-line
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Oh geez. The least you could do is get a new line...
you asked me that same question under a different moniker not long ago. At least get some new material. Geez! And as far as emailing you...not in this lifetime. I did that once...once burned, many time shy. You guys can get pretty hateful on this board, but a sailor could take lessons from you when you are uncensored...LOL Had enough of potty-mail all-tolerant liberals to last me a lifetime. And anybody knows you can have more than one email going to the same place. Geez. Get a new schtick. This one is oldddd.
The bottom line is....
from 1870 to the 1960's the majority of elected Democrats in Congress, with the help of a small minority of southern Republicans, effectively denied African Americans the right to vote for 90 years FOLLOWING the civil war. If you are saying that seeking their freedom and giving them the right to vote is a "liberal" movement, then it was the Republicans in majority, not the Democrats in majority, who were the "liberals" of that time.
In my mind, we are all tied up in semantics. The passion and commitment to something that to each of us is morally right is not liberal nor conservative. It is a human characteristic. None of us, I suppose, are truly liberal or truly conservative. It is a mixture. Some "liberals" agree with me that abortion is morally wrong and are against it for that reason, yet still consider themselves liberals. Some "conservatives" (such as Guiliani) do not agree on abortion and are pro choice, yet still call themselves conservative. I made a comment on the conservative board regarding the fires in California and was accused of sounding like a "bleeding heart liberal." So, in essence, over time people have identified certain characteristics and tried to put them in a liberal or a conservative box. And because we are human, and because we are different and have different ideas, we do not fit into boxes and ideas cross over. Hence, no true liberals or true conservatives....and that fact does not bother me at all, though it does bother some.
It is just that some of us love the labels more than others, I guess; the labels make them feel good, like they are affiliated with something noble...and what the labels mean to us individually, and some get very angry if someone questions the label.
I guess my prefrence is not to be labeled.
And that is what it is...a label, in the grand scheme of things. Because no one can really agree on what it means. Everyone puts their own personal spin on it. That is the nature of the human condition.
The last line of your post is....
So, the "God is telling me I need to fight for all unborn fetuses" is a religious issue and should be there. Tired of seeing line after line after line of religious opinions on the political board.
You also said this: If your trying to make an argument with the "I'm fighting for all the unborn fetus'" and God is telling you this, blah, blah, blah, that's all great but it should be on the "Faith" board.
I never said anything remotely like that. To suggest I did is not true. TO use your own words, I take offense to someone who makes judgments about me without knowing me. You can make judgments about me, but no way should I make any about you?
Generally when something is not true it is a lie. I did not directly call you a liar. However, I apologize for any inference if there was any. How's this? What you said is not true. I never said God told me to do anything. I never said religion was my motivator. You made assumptions about me and you don't know me.
It is not hard to read posts on abortion at all, in caps or not. Just don't click to open it.
You and the others have made your point ad nauseam about how tired you are of it. I am tired of being told what I can post and what I can't, just as tired as you are of seeing abortion threads. And none of the threads would be near as long as they are if "they" ( I won't include you since you say you are not one of them) didn't pile on and bash me. It would just beone lone post. And believe me, as tired as you are of seeing abortion posts I am tired of the endless bashing that goes with them.
Yes, I said if it chaps you so be it, and it obviously does. You are basically saying the same thing to me: stop the abortion posts or take them somewhere else, and if it chaps you, so be it. Okay for you, not okay for me.
And to use your words..enough has been said about it and it is getting old.
Get a new line. That prayer cop-out
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Look down the line...sure are a lot from YOU..with no point
other than to bash sam. Pot callin' the kettle wouldn't you say?
Disregard name line.
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The name line should read
continue with body of original post.
Bottom line
Obama is going to win, that's what counts.
He must do something right, if the majority wants Barrack Obama.
bottom line...
After the attack of 9/11 something HAD TO BE DONE.
What other options were there?
Doing nothing was sure not an option.
Why is it out of line to say things about
O, yet for years Bush has had some horrible things said about him, Palin was maligned, etc ( I know, I know, you're going to respond by saying the things about Bush and Palin are true..beat ya to it). We have this thing called Free Speech, a wonderful thing, the beauty of the United States. And please don't pull the "racist" card out either, it doesn't fly. This PC, touchy-feely, give peace a chance. can't we all just get along business is grating on the nerves.
That is really out line and distasteful
Very disrespectful to her as a person. I am not going to read your posts anymore because you dont write what I like.
I do not make as much as many per line
but I make a decent amount of money, especially to stay at home. I hear some people whining about how they cannot get more than 10 cpl and think that there might not be so much out sourcing if these folks might be willing to work for less. However, I might take a pay cut if I had to in order to keep my job. It would sure beat forcing my company under and having no pay at all.
Those one-line wonders are just too
are so direct and to the point. Most of us don't have time to write volumes here like some folks! Besides, the questions, or statements, are so simple-minded, it only takes one line to respond.
And then STAND IN LINE for your
You sound awful happy about old Barry. Another welfare millionare in the making, methinks.
That IS the bottom line...
That's the only reason it is being offshored. It has nothing to do with "free trade" and everything to do with corporate greed.
He can say whatever he wants about "line by line" but...sm
O can go through every budget bill, addendum, omnibus, whatever you want to call it line by line. However, until he gets the power of "line item veto, he can take out whatever he wants when he wants, he can veto all he wants until the cows come home. However,
the congress can, by a 2/3 majority, over ride his veto. And guess what??? Pork is still king and earmarks and lobbiests still reign supreme.
Line item veto power is goingto be harder to come by than a choice of a viable 3rd party. But that is JMO.
You obviously just read one line in
my post. I said it cannot be done correctly if it is rushed. They are trying to rush this because it is such a controversial thing. We cannot afford it right now without taxing people more. This is something that needs to be looked at very carefully with the kinks worked out before they go on passing it. Things that are rushed often have a lot of flaws.
The bottom line is....(sm)
Torture does not provide reliable confessions.
Torture has not and will not "save American lives." If it has done anything, it has put more lives at risk.
Waterboarding was used in WWII against US personell by the Japanese. We prosecuted those who used torture and executed them. Why? Because it was against the law. And what did the Japanese get for their efforts with torturing? False information and a bad reputation. What makes you think we'll get anything different from that?
The only thing torture is good for is revenge. That's not what this country is about, and its not what I'm about.
Sp be it, but your line of reasoning is skewed
What if a sex offender was running loose in your neighborhood. What if he had raped a child 10 years ago, went to jail with a slap on the wrist (like what happens these days), and got out in ten years. He shows up in your neighborhood, and you see him out on his porch everyday when the school bus arrives and leaves. Not only is he leering at the school kids he's making outrageous comments on a daily basis. Would you say, *Oh, he went to prison. He did his time. Hopefully, he's rehabilited. Yes, he's a little strange and outrageous, but so far, as far as we know, he's not touched a kid again so we need to leave him alone.*
Would you trust this guy? Especially if you then found out he has a *rape room* in his house? What if his sons were running around the neighborhood reeking havoc and doing the same things but in a more merciless way and you found out they were going to inherit his house when he died?
Well, this correlates very well with Saddam. Almost too closely in fact. Like many of you say here on a daily basis, the world is our neighborhood, and in many neighborhoods there are bullies, and they don't quit being bullies until you take them out. It's just the way the world works.
If they had pulled him from a picket line that would be different...sm
He was arrested for wearing a Veterans for Peace T-shirt.
I come from a long line of military. sm
And none of them feel that way. To each his own.
Bottom line, Taiga....
did Murtha or did Murtha not say "The surge is working?" Yes, he did. Why did CBS choose not to print all the disclaimers? You got me, I don't know. As to Murtha adding the disclaimers, he probably suddenly remembered he is going to have to talk to Pelosi come Monday. I don't blame him, I would be backpedaling too. lol.
Okay. This is exhausting. Bottom line...
I did not say Teddy you are a liar. Nor will I. Only you know for sure if you are lying. And you have said ad nauseam you don't care what I think or say, so why do keep protesting so much? Sigh.
What I believe or do not believe does not matter at this point to anyone but me. I vote we stop whipping this dead horse.
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