Poster who implies anyone wanted officers shot was certainly slamming.

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    • I think you nailed it. - American Woman
  • I will, provided courtesy is held on the conservative board as well. - Administrator nm
  • Why do you call them conservative items? SM - MT
  • I havn't read any slams, just good solid arguments. - That's a good thing, huh?
    • What kind of good solid argument is that? - Zauber
      • You must not have read the personal comment at the end then. - /
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WASHINGTON — Director Leon Panetta says agency records show CIA officers briefed lawmakers truthfully in 2002 on methods of interrogating terrorism suspects, but it is up to Congress to reach its own conclusions about what happened.

Panetta's message to agency employees came one day after Speaker Pelosi said bluntly the CIA had misled her and other lawmakers about the use of waterboarding and other harsh techniques seven years ago.

Panetta wrote that the political debates about interrogation "reached a new decibel level" with the charges.

He urged agency employees to "ignore the noise and stay focused on your mission."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/15/cia-director-panetta-reco_n_204005.html

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Pelosi Accuses CIA of 'Misleading' Congress on Waterboarding

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday accused the CIA of misleading Congress about its use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terror detainees.

"Yes I am saying the CIA was misleading the Congress, and at the same time the (Bush) administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to which I said that this intelligence doesn't support the imminent threat," Pelosi said at her weekly news conference.

"Every step of the way the administration was misleading the Congress and that is the issue and that's why we need a truth commission," she said.

Under a barrage of questioning, Pelosi adamantly insisted that she was not aware that waterboarding or other enhanced interrogation techniques were being used on terrorism suspects.

"I am telling you they told me they approved these and said they wanted to use them but said they were not using waterboarding," she said.

Growing increasingly frustrated throughout the briefing, Pelosi slowly started backing away from the podium as she tried to end the questioning.

As she backed out, she continued to accuse the CIA of not telling Congress that dissenting opinions had been filed within the administration suggesting the methods were not lawful.

The CIA immediately disputed Pelosi's accusation, saying the documents describing the particular enhanced interrogation techniques that had been employed are accurate. CIA spokesman George Little noted that CIA Director Leon Panetta made available to the House Intelligence Committee memos from individuals who led the briefings with House members.

"The language in the chart -- 'a description of the particular EITs that had been employed' -- is true to the language in the agency's records," Little said. "The chart I'm referring to is, of course, the list of member briefings on enhanced interrogation techniques."

Republicans also questioned Pelosi's charge.

"It's hard for me to imagine anyone in our intelligence area would ever mislead a member of Congress," House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said at his weekly news conference. "They come to the Hill to brief us because they're required to under the law. I don't know what motivation they would have to mislead anyone."

The top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., told FOX News that Pelosi's accusation against the CIA is "not credible."

"I am afraid she has disremembered what she went through," he said. "We have had not only the records from the CIA but the contemporaries who were there with her had other views on it, so I am afraid that this is not a credible explanation."

Pelosi said she was briefed only once on the interrogation methods in September 2002. She acknowledged that her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, informed her about another briefing five months later in which Bush officials said waterboarding was being used on CIA terror detainee Abu Zubaydah.

Pelosi said she supported a letter drafted by Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee who also attended the briefing in February 2003, and sent to the Bush administration, raising concerns over the technique.

Pelosi's account has changed several times in recent weeks as she has sought to clarify what she did or didn't know about the interrogation methods that she is pushing to investigate.

Pelosi said last month that she was never told that the controversial interrogation methods were being used. But a national intelligence report later showed that she was briefed seven years ago on the tactics while she was on the House Intelligence Committee.

Her spokesman then said the speaker thought the techniques were legal and that waterboarding was not used.

Democrats will hold a series of hearings on Justice Department memos released last month that justified rough tactics against detainees, including waterboarding and sleep deprivation.

While Democrats want the hearings to focus on what they call torture, Republicans have tried to turn the issue to their advantage by complaining that Pelosi and other Democrats knew of the tactics but didn't protest.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/14/pelosi-reiterates-didnt-know-waterboarding-use/

gt was the one I was complaining about slamming the board with extreme left-wing, president bashing articles which is TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR and UNPATRIOTIC during a time when our country is in crisis. You don't have to like our president, but you have no idea what kind of pressure he's under right at the moment, and how all the fingerpointing is making his job that much harder.  I don't think it is out of line at all to ask people to act like adults and put their energies into helping those in need.  This could be a place for networking on how to best help the suffering.  I haven't seen many posts on this board (except for Lurker's lone one)  routing people to charities for giving or anything.  People on the conservative board are talking about how you can help and how they can help but you all, as usual, are whining about the president!   Some of you people are about to sink to the level of some of those in New Orleans who are shooting rescuers, because you are absolutely adding NOTHING of value to the situation.  You are only creating an atmosphere of hostility which is very counterproductive in a desperate time as this.

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what I am talking about regarding illegal immigration, and what I view this country to be.  I do not now, nor have I ever said one word about wanting a "pure race."  I have said over and over, America is a country of immigrants.  A country of immigrants coming here who wanted change from their native countries.  Immigrants who became UNITED under one flag, one creed, one constitution, one set of laws.  The UNITED States of America.  The thread that bound us all together...Americans.  And the trend is away from that now.  Illegal immigrants want to come here and change America to Mexican America...or Muslim America...or, or, or.  To change what we are, the ideals we were founded on.  In my mind, if you make a conscious decision to leave your own country and come to this one seeking to change your citizenship, then you embrace this country, her laws, her ideals, etc.  That does not mean a person cannot be proud of individual heritage.  I am proud of my Irish, Native American, Swedish ancestry and can some of it back to the 15th century.  But I am not a Native Swedish Irish American.  I am an American with a mixed heritage, and I am an American first, and I don't frankly see anything wrong with that.  It is in that that we used to be UNITED and is what made us strong.  If we start to separate we might as well set up borders and call part of us Native America, part of us Africa America, part of us Mexico America....because we are not united anymore.  I even had the word "secession" thrown at me, which is ridiculous on the face of it.  I never said such a thing nor would I sanction such a thing, because I believe in the UNITED States of America.

At any rate, to set the record straight:  I do not ascribe to a "pure" race.  I object vehemently to illegal immigration.  I support legal immigration to the hilt.  However, I do believe that immigrants are making a choice when they leave their native land and come here...a choice to become an American, and if that is not their choice, then they need to stay in their country of origin and try to make it more America-like...it seems like that is what they REALLY want.

I love my country, I love her mixed heritage and I love my own mixed heritage.   I really, really don't see what the problem is with that. Black, white, red, yellow, polka-dotted or chartreuse....we are all Americans, and that should be the thread that binds us together.  Therein lies our strength. 

I will now officially stop beating this poor dead horse.  :)   Have a good day, my fellow Americans, every last one of you.  :)

It could be a joke, but I do trust Huffingtonpost.  It is also posted on other parts of the net.  For him to do so (pardon Bin Laden), probably means nothing to anyone except "Bush" since Bin Laden has not been captured and is not a U.S. citizen. You can search it yourself and form your own opinion:  "Bush Pardon's Osama Bin Laden" or you can copy and paste the link below.

I don't put anything past Bush and nothing he does surprises me.  I'm embarassed that I voted for him.  After stating that he gets a "briefing" every day, on Larry King when asked, if we ever came close to capturing Bin Laden, his reply was "I don't know......I really don't know."   First of all, you should know, and if you don't know, you don't say I don't know.  You can discuss the gallant attempts by our military to capture him, the sacrifice they gave of themselves to capture him, etc.  LAME DUCK -- BYE!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/breaking-bush-pardons-osa_b_159272.html

and murdered him justifies himself by saying it was not a murder; it was a justified killing.......    Our liberal media has been so hush hush about the murder of this solider, maybe they think they same thing!!  They sure have talked about the baby murderer's murder til I'm sick to death of hearing it!!! 

Too bad Obama thought discussing the tiller murder was more important than mentioning a soldier's murder in THIS country due to a sicko islamic convert within our own country....  speaks volumes to me...

and murdered him justifies himself by saying it was not a murder; it was a justified killing.......    Our liberal media has been so hush hush about the murder of this solider, maybe they think they same thing!!  They sure have talked about the baby murderer's murder til I'm sick to death of hearing it!!! 

Too bad Obama thought discussing the tiller murder was more important than mentioning a soldier's murder in THIS country due to a sicko islamic convert within our own country....  speaks volumes to me...

One was killed while going for his gun after being shot at.  The gun was so high powered, it severed his hand. He was married and a father.  I don't think Wounded Knee is anything to be proud of. 

Merry Christmas! 

DH has been talking about moving there for a couple years. He loves Canada.

I hate the cold. Think I'm going to show this to him? Nah.

We have 50 tomato plants in containers, 25 pepper plants (green, hot, hotter, and hotter then he!!), 10 potato plant containers (x6 cuttings in each), and 10 containers of cukes. The only thing we planted in the ground was beans, onions, and radishes. All doing fantastic. Already have a hot pepper and some tomatoes and this weather sucks this year, only 60 damp, dreary, rainy all week...again. Surprised the plants are doing so well.

We also have about 5 tomato plants coming up in the ground from last year.

I was wondering how your garden was doing. Thanks for letting me know.

healthcare for myself.  I want free or more affordable cost healthcare for American children.  My children are already covered.  My husband has worked for the same company for over 12 years, and he has decent insurance.  You are impossible to argue with because you refuse to admit that we can afford $333 MILLION PER DAY FOR A WAR IN IRAQ, AND WE CAN AFFORD $19 MILLION PER DAY FOR CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE.  How are your taxes going to be raised to 70% of your income for the health care?  Have they been raised that high for the war?  NO, so your argument is not valid.