Petty bickering about stuff from 16 years ago
Posted By: is counterproductive.... on 2008-11-07
In Reply to: temp team? yeah, right - Shar
Pardon the pun here, but we have bigger fish to fry....much bigger fish. Rahm has all the qualities that a chief of staff needs and if you don't like his personality, oh well. What is obvious here is that you are making judgments WAY too prematurely. One person does not a trend make. The undertones of your post are juvenile and you sound like a smart alek. If you rarely read or post on this board, then why don't you just drive on by and keep on going? We could probably get along just fine without your input.
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I doubt they have time for that petty stuff. NM
But why is this stuff seemingly petty to Americans?
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and the bickering goes on and on and on, until when? Till 2012?
Good night !
Not bickering. Holding feet to fire. Like GP...
and I agreed to. Have a good night!
Can we stop the bickering for a few moments and say a sincere prayer...
for those on our gulf coast, and for all the emergency workers down there to help? They are more important than anything we are saying here right now!
This stuff again. I thought this OWG stuff went out in the mid 90's.
There is much more to the world than your little conspiracy-laden corner of it. Besides, the ACLU fights these kinds of things tooth and nail. Thank Godess for the libbies.
Petty, petty, petty....
slow news day today ladies?
How petty can you get?
I think we can chalk this up to hope for the best, expect the worst and be prepared for either. While we are on the subject, it seems McC is not too sure if he should be inside of outside of his own victory celebration....the lawn may be the best place from which to launch a quick getaway. Who knows? McC has been throwing up everything he can think of against the wall and so far, nothing sticks. This cocky mantra is only the latest and perhaps one of the lamest yet. Obama himself has warned repeatedly in the past few days about the dangers of complacency. Just because we are excited at the idea that he has a clear shot at winning does not in any way mean that the job is done or that his supporters have stopped their most diligent efforts to cover all the bases, dot all their Is and cross all their Ts. McC has also said "when I am president" and O has said "if elected." For pete's sake, grow up already.
No, I'm just going with petty.
Obama isn't the one griping about Blair house, I am. First off, he needed to move early so his kids could go ahead and start school. He wasn't trying to move into the white house. He was making a decision based on the needs of his kids. Yeah, that was just terrible of him.
Secondly, Blair house is what, 70,000 sq feet, comprised of townhouses, with 110 rooms and 35 bathrooms.
Third, the only guest there is the former prime minister of Australia, John Howard, who incidentally was kicked out of office for aligning with Bush.
Let me guess, there just wasn't enough room?
This is simply Bush being a butt head. Very childish, if you ask me, for someone who is supposed to be president.
Petty...huh?
And continually talking about Sarah Palin's daughter getting pregnant isn't petty? That has nothing to do with Palin's ability to run her state. Yet people continually bring that up and consider it a reason for Palin to fail politically.
The whole point of this is the fact that Obama is spending more money wastefully during this crisis. I'm sure he didn't foot the bill for that party. If our country had money, fine.....but everyone has to cut back during this time and that includes politicians. If they want to spend their own money....more power to them, but a majority of them are using taxpayer money. Just like Pelosi using military planes. Everyone is cutting back and they went after bank CEOs and auto CEOs and gave them crap for having private jets and here you have Pelosi using military planes costing taxpayers money. Another example of do as I say and not as I do, huh?
Petty tit for tat...(sm)
As much as I do dislike the last admin, this isn't about getting revenge. It's about standing up for what our nation is supposed to stand for.
If you want to go with just everyone who "knew" about it, then that would definitely wipe out a ton of people in the senate (probably both sides). However, who gave the orders to carry out torture? Who tried to rewrite the laws regarding torture? I would simply go after the directly guilty...and that does not include, btw, military personell who were following orders.
If you want to fry a dem on something, then go for Clinton for rendition, but that guilty by association thing that you guys seem to love to use isn't going to float.
petty and pathetic.
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Your jealous and petty
is my . . that's the law of the land, quite your botchin'. Change it or live with it. Good greasy gravy, grow up.
and even more pettiness....where's Tom Petty when
this whole board is petty
just doing my part to contribute.
How is it being petty and ridiculous because
There are so many of us out here struggling to make ends meet, put food on the table for our families and they are going out on a date at our expense? I did not vote for O, I am neither a republican or a democrat, but I have encouraged every one I know to support him and give him a chance. However, it seems that the more that I now try to encourage myself to support him, the more stupid things that he does. Let's forget about the date and talk about the trip to Los Angeles to raise money for Harry Reid. He took Air Force One, which by itself costs an unbelievable amount of money to just get ready to fly, hundreds of thousands of dollars, then you add in what it costs to get in the air. I completely understand that this is something that has been done by both parties in the past but when you stand before the cameras and ask every last person in America to sacrifice and then you go out and do things that are costing these same people even more money, I believe that it is completely appropriate to be angry as heck. Then I saw on CNN where the question was posed "is the $400,000 salary of the President of the United States adequate, should it be more." Well let's see, he travels at our expense, he has a roof over his head with no expenses whatsoever, food is on the table at no expense to him, he has a beautiful place to escape to for long weekends, again at no expense to him, so do I think that $400,000 is appropriate? You are dang right I think that it is appropriate.
This is an administration who preached about transparency during the election and, in my opinion, so far, they have been far from transparent. Even though I did not vote for him I truly hoped (and still hope) that he would make things better for all of us and so far I personally do not see that happening.
Petty? Why not to a movie, but
Double-standards, Obama's way.
Great try at a comeback. You are just as petty as
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Sounds like a petty, cruel god's rules
Actually this sounds like a human's idea of what a god would want. So obsessed with rules and regulations......
I like what I see in the mirror. Petty squabbles do not rile me,
I have not been trying to rile anyone all day. I have posted infrequent, well researched, rationale, logical discussions and comparisons of issues, plans, policies, platforms and positions, trying to egg pubs into some sort of similar response. So far, in response, they run from issues and reply with dodges, slams, bashes and digs.
I do not back down from these either, because some of the inflammatory ignorant poop they post seeks to undermine my candidate in destructive ways. I will be answering every single time in the same spirit that is used in the posts I am replying to. I have no sympathy for what pubs have "suffered" from SS today because dems are forced to deal with our own sally in the form of Sam 12 hours a day 5 days a week and have been doing so for months and months now. It's like Obama. He has been relentlessly raked through the coals for the past 18 months and has not complained one single time. SP and McCain have had this same treatment now for around 5 days and they are wimping out, whining like a couple of 5 year olds and declaring war on the so-called "liberal" press....not a terribly intelligent thing to do in the middle of a campaign.
Your double standard claim means less than nothing to me, but I do agree with you that my time and energy is better spent compliling fact to fight fiction and promoting my candidate to the best of my ability, in a thoughtful, intelligent and credible manner. See ya back at the board, Get Smart. Would look forward to engaging you in a real political debate on issues, etc, should you feel so inclined.
That's a pretty petty thing to be bugging you.
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Ann is a biterr and jealous petty little witch.
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like the left doesn't know anything about petty snipes
if the woman can't count, she can't count. so what
Petty or not, going on a date with taxpayer money
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For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Yeah, but they all count, no matter how petty the reason....
and that goes for both sides...sigh.
That kind of attitude makes you sound jealous and petty..
I'm sorry if you are offended by my opinion that I don't want to pay more in taxes. You wouldn't either if the tables were turned.
Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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Really, is this the best stuff you can come up with over here? How about some
I don't know why you say some of the mean stuff you say, so....
who are you to determine who is a straight thinking person? I think what he was getting as is simple. It is a FACT, like it or not, that African-Americans make up a huge portion of our jail population, much more than their 13% representation in the population would expect. Saying that a black person has a lower IQ because they are black is racist. Stating a fact like 70% of black children are born to an unwed mother, while sad and startling, is simply a fact and not a racist comment.
Since you take this stuff so seriously
look at who is #2---but again, I guess the Google fairies have worked their magic in putting these people under the word miserable.
so it's stuff everybody already gets anyway...
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Same here. Cant take any more of this stuff on TV.
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Actually new stuff, you just don't like to see it. n/m
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I think BB get all this stuff from
moveon.org or something. Sounds a lot like that sort of thing. 
Even if he did say that stuff...
who cares?! Is Bush in the White House now? No! Whatever lame remarks Biden might have made to him when he was in the White House really don't matter any more. He's just trying to puff out his chest because he has nothing else to do since Obama is keeping him on such a tight leash.
Unfortunately, like so many of the rest of our "leaders," you can't believe a thing that comes out of their mouths.
LOL! Who comes up with this stuff??
I have to forward this to my husband now; he loves a good joke!
This stuff was not broadcast
because anyone believes Bush is a groper or is worried that he has a potty mouth. it was published and broadcast to show how inept he is out of his element - the ranch.
bored with this stuff, onto something new
Mother of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears is out promoting new book. In a Newsweek article, she points out the hypocrisy of her daughter being criticized for being a pregnant teenager and she being called a bad mom, but Bristol Palin is commended for valuing life and her mom is made out to be a good mom.
Not a fan of the Spears, but I thought she had a valid point.
don't make stuff up. You don't know that, and neither do I...nm
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Truly scary stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fSe27iloU
of course he would say that stuff - he was running against him! nm
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More dumb stuff.
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Interesting stuff...
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/3723-mike-klonsky-obama-blogger.html
Mike Klonsky has had a blog on Obama's official website for a few months now (His first article is from February)...
Soooo who's Mike Klonsky?...
Quote:
Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist. He is perhaps most famous for being National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society in 1968...
...On May 12, 1969, Klonsky and four other SDSers were arrested at the organization's Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action[/b]. A prank call to a local police station said there had been a shooting at SDS' offices. When the police arrived, Klonsky and the others were convinced it was a ruse to gain access to SDS' offices.[1] Klonsky convinced the police everything was fine, when a second prank call brought local firefighters to the scene. When the police attempted to force entry to the offices, Klonsky and the others resisted. Convinced state repression of SDS was coming, Klonsky told a national television audience on CBS' "Face the Nation" that police repression of the New Left was being planned by the U.S. Department of Justice...
...At SDS' June 1969 national convention in Chicago, Klonsky played a major role in the dissolution of the organization. A group of 11 SDS national leaders—including Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, John Jacobs, Mark Rudd, Bill Ayers, Terry Robbins, and Howie Machtinger—had met in April and May of 1969 to craft a response to PL supporters within SDS. Their article, "You Don't Need A Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows," was published in New Left Notes on June 18, 1969, the day the convention opened. The "Weatherman" statement denounced imperialism and racism, and repudiated PL's claim that youth culture was bourgeois. The Weatherman statement called for revolutionary violence at home to stop imperialism, and the formation of collectives in major cities to support violence and stop factionalism. |
Maybe you'd like to see a little more from our Weatherman friend?...
Quote:
In late 1969, Klonsky founded the October League, a communist party which in 1977 became the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist. He was elected the party's chairman. The group opposed Gay Liberation and supported the regime of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. Klonsky made several trips to China beginning in July 1977, where he was warmly received by government and Communist Party of China officials and treated to state dinners. |
Now either you believe that Obama complicitly allows this thing to happen on his blogs because of his association or you believe that their campaign site is run by such ignorant people that they unknowingly and freely let anyone who feels like blogging get their own page...!["](http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/rolleye0011.gif" "Rolls")
Of course, you could easily say "maybe Obama doesn't know anything about this loon and doesn't want anything to do with him!"...
tsk, tsk, tsk...Not so easy, my compadres...read on...
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In 1991, Klonsky co-founded the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago |
Co-founded?...
Wonder who co-founded it with him?...
Quote:
William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament. |
Okaaaaayy...
So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?...
Well let's look at the grant support for this workshop...
Quote:
GRANT SUPPORT
Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.
Annenberg Challenge -1997 - 260,000 |
Annenberg Challenge?...What's that?...
!["](http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z23/cnredd/Annenberg_Ayers.gif")
Hmmm....wonder who the chairman of the Annenberg Challenge was in 1997....
Quote:
Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999 |
There you have it folks...
Mike Klonsky - Communist leader...and along with Bill Ayers, promoter of American terrorism, created a school workshop that received a grant from the Annenberg Challenge, the Chicago branch created by Bill Ayers and had Barack Obama as president and chairman, and now Klonsky gets his own little blog on Obama's offical website...
But you're not supposed to believe in "guilt by association", eh?...!["](http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/mad.gif" "Mad")
Let's look back at what Obama said about Bill Ayers...
Quote:
At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.” |
When Bill Ayers started the Annenberg Challenge and YOU became the founding president and chairman of it, you weren't 8 years old dummy...
Thanks - it too me a lot of deletions and stuff
I didn't want to offend anyone because I believe we all have rights as human beings to believe whatever we want to believe - I have a mormon sister (who grew up with me in a methodist church) and she keeps pouring on me how her religion is right and anyone who is not mormon will not be on the "higher level" after we depart and then it will be too late. HA HA HA But then again I have an aunt who feels that because we are not in the charismatic movement we are heathens. HA HA HA. Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at it.
That's too funny about the guy telling God to get his act together. God's probably up there saying "who died and made you boss". HA HA
Believe it or not some of us 'uns still eat that stuff
which is why we won't go hungry. 'Course ya gotta be a Hill William (classier version of Hill Billy) to appreciate them thar vittles. LOL
I think he has his stuff altogether, and if I were you
would not worry 1 second about his getting the big head. There have been others before him (say Kennedy that I remember well before he took office and while in office) and the same thing you are seeing, the adoring audiences, etc. were very apparent then also. Obama has a lot of sense going for him- nah, would not lose any sleep on such a trivial issue. The country is so glad to be rid of Bush that people are tremendously overjoyed about this new fresh face. I think he will be a tremendous president.
This is scary stuff.
I'm totally out of the loop on this one. When did this come about? I'd like to read up more about this.
funny stuff
"Well who wouldn't want to teabag John McCain?"
OMG I just totally lost it when I heard that! ROFLMAO !
Granted, noone wants to see stuff like that, but...(sm)
these people are not strangers to violence and humiliation (including the civilian population). They also saw what their own countries have done to prisoners (again including their own civilian population), which, as has been pointed out numerous times on this board, is just as bad, and probably worse. I think that has to play a role in it. We're talking about a different culture with different views of punishment and "rules of war."
The 259 is the cheap stuff, what I use most times.
I saw on the news the other night threats from the president not to ship oil to the US, I didn't catch the reason. And this could further raise prices.
I don't even want to think about the heating bill this winter.
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