Outsourcing/China (warning - rant)
Posted By: Pugmom on 2009-05-06
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Hubby was telling me last night that China's economy is now tanking because ours is. Factory workers over there were showing up for work only to find their business had closed because of lack of orders from the U.S. India may be next. You never know. I don't see it happening with MT but like I said, you just don't know. Did you see their work days? 6 days a week and something like 12 or 14 hours a day?
I hear lip service from Nobama/Maobama about cutting taxes to bring our businesses back but don't see him acting on it. He's a one-termer. Carter got us in a heap of trouble which Reagan (I know union employees aren't fond of him) had to get us out of. All Nobama is doing is having construction/building jobs sprout up here and there. And where does the money come from to pay for his multi-trillion dollar spending? You got it - us. Those jobs will eventually fizzle out, our country will be poorer and those people will once again be unemployed..
Dems coined the phrase Voodoo Economics for Reagan's Trickle Down Economics. Whether or not you liked the man, he did a world of good for this country. He did cut capital gains taxes and cut taxes for the rich. Trickle down 101: You cut taxes for the rich, they can afford to hire more employees, more often than not, at better wages. Unemployment is down. People go out and spend more money because they are employed and can afford to. During Reagan's terms in office, he cut taxes immensely yet the government took in more money. People would much rather spend their money the way they want than have the government take it and spend it.
Folks, we work for our government. Our government should be working for us. We should not live in fear of the IRS. I attended a TEA party on April 15 and will attend more such events. We should have a government for the people, of the people and by the people. The protest was very peaceful and guess what? Not a bit of litter was left to be found when it ended, like the disgrace that was left after the inauguration in Washington, DC.
We are getting so far away from a constitutional government, it's not funny. Actually, my opinion is that we are currently a socialist government. You know the next step after socialism? Communism.
I read the most recent list of who they consider a terrorist. Hoarding food? Um, yep. Better buy it now in case a depression hits. Glad I have a breadmaker. Wouldn't want to have to spend $50 on a loaf of bread. Buying lots of ammo? Sure, but then again, we do competition shooting. Guns? Yeah, we have our share, but variety is the spice of life (Hubby bought me a Macarov but I didn't care for the way it operated (too hard to load the mag), especially after the slide came back and sliced my thumb open 5 times, bad lacerations - my fault, was handling it wrong, so I got a Glock). My husband is an Iraqi war vet. That makes us both domestic terrorists. Yet neither one of us even has the heart to even discipline our dogs. We're both very gentle people. Of course if someone broke into our home, we would defened ourselves.
I'm sorry for the rant but I just don't see Nobama caring much about outsourcing. I really really really hope I am wrong and what he is doing for our country is the right thing but I truly resent being labeled a domestic terrorist because I see us headed for a depression and am stocking up on food, and my husband happened to be in the military during the Gulf war.
Thanks for listening. 
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That's right China. We basically support China in everyway, and
don't hear two words uttered about their communist society. But, no mention of any wrong doing from China, I mean where else can you get a shirt made for ten cents?
Robertson though has hijacked a good Christian show (I guess it's his show), but it would be a good show to watch if he wasn't on there throwing politics everywhere. I don't like the mix.
They said they didn't like China.....that China would
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About outsourcing...
 Listen to this.... it is talking about the outsourcing of our jobs -
http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=928157451&pl=newestFinance.xml&config=&launchpoint=Link&cid=fanlink&attr=featured_sidebar&tab=featured&attr=finance_sidebar
Outsourcing
Outsourcing stinks. I know what you are saying! It makes me mad too. Not too long ago I had an appointment with an orthopedic doctor. I told him that I was an MT and he proceeded to tell me that their practice used to use a service here that was charging them .12 cpl. They were paying over 100K for transcription so they told the transcription service if they could do it for .6 cpl they would keep them. I looked at him like you have got to be kidding me. They now send it to India. Unfortunately because of clinics like his who are sending it overseas to people who will work for nothing, we are finding it harder and harder to compete and make any money here. Needeless to say I have not been back to see him. If he doesn't want to support our industry then I am not supporting his.
What about outsourcing?
Obama promised in Oct 2008 to put an end to outsourcing, then recanted that by saying "we can't stop outsourcing", but decided to credit those who kept jobs in the United States.
I'm mad as "you know what" and I'm not taking it any more! I've been posting all over the internet this message - in fact this is the exact one I just posted at VP Biden's new website "A strong Middle Class". Yeah Buddies - want a strong middle class? Quit taking American money and giving it to India, Pakistan, the Phillipines and whereever else they are promising "quality work" for less than the very hard working dedicated responsible American MTs.
Biden's new website: http://www.whitehouse.gov/strongmiddleclass/ (they are asking for comments BTW)
What I posted:
Stop outsourcing jobs. I realize you can't stop them all, but at least those that contain private info, such as medical records, credit card processing, etc. I've lost close to $5000 a month in income to 2 accounts going overseas - 1 to Pakistan, and now another 1 to India, I had to lay off 1 worker and 2 more will be laid off when the account goes to India. This would do 3 things: Give Americans back their jobs, keep money in America and keep our private information in America!
What spurred my most recent anger, it was bad enuf I lost a really good cardiology account to Pakistan - now I lose another one to India?
Then yesterday I get a phone call "Hi (insert name) I'm calling about your Mastercard ending in numbers XXXX" and he used my name (of course called on my phone) and had the correct credit card numbers. No matter how many times I asked the ESL caller "I demand to know where you got my credit card information" He would NOT tell me! I googled the phone number and it has been traced to Verizon Wireless cellphone out of Tampa.
I personally have had it - give America back to the Americans!
(off my soapbox now)
Outsourcing is NOT just Republican...
I'd advise you to check out the outsourcing that happened during the "glory" years of Bill Clinton. As to Democrats beating ol' McCain's posterior...don't count your chickens.
Regarding MTSO and outsourcing
Obama has stated repeatedly that the USA doesn't have a fair playing field when outsourcing jobs. Instead of continuing to give companies tax breaks for outsourcing our jobs, he wants to give the tax breaks to companies that KEEP jobs in the USA. This was another of the many reasons I voted for him. Another example, IMHO, of the "trickle up" theory. 
Need to specify "offshoring" instead of outsourcing.
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EVERYONE! This your chance to do something about outsourcing
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevator-commercial.html
What can you do?
* Call President Obama at 202-456-1111 and ask him to ensure that all new jobs created under a stimulus package go to American citizens and authorized immigrants already here. Tell the person answering the phone that the administration should suspend most work visas and green cards until it can be determined that issuing them will not harm the chances of unemployed Americans.
* Send a fax to your Senators urging them to make sure that only American citizens and authorized immigrants already here get jobs created by whatever economic stimulus package eventually is adopted.
* Fax your House Member thanking him/her for ensuring that the stimulus bill kept jobs out of the hands of illegal foreign workers but urging that in negotiations with the Senate businesses and governments should also be prohibited from using stimulus money to import more foreign workers.
* Read NumbersUSA's fact sheet Putting Americans Back to Work.
* Forward this page to as many Americans as possible to educate them about the statistics the media and government don't want them to know -- and to warn them what may happen to their jobs if they don't join you in taking action.
* Post your comments about the ad and this campaign.
Offshore outsourcing and MT jobs
Senator Obama is going to stop giving tax breaks to companies who offshore. That includes Medical Transcription Companies who outsource their work to offshore companies. There will be an abundance of work for MTs here in the US, just like there used to be before our work started being sent overseas.
Medical Transcription used to be one of the top 10 careers but not anymore since it is outsourced overseas. That is why our pay is decreasing and it is harder to find a job. Senator McCain has been a senator for the last 30 years, yet our worked has continued to be sent overseas. What change has he brought about?
If you want to get the profession of Medical Transcription back to the way it used to be where we had excellent pay and an abundance of work, vote for the man who wants to stop outsourcing our work overseas. That man is Senator Obama. Do your research before you cast your vote which might in turn hurt your very own profession, Medical Transcription!
I am casting my vote for Senator Obama and looking forward to once again being proud to be an American and having the work back in America where it belongs.
Here is 1 thing I found on McCain and outsourcing
that I posted about yesterday. I am still trying to find some info to support what Sam had said about tax breaks so the companies can come back and hire US workers. Even though I think that him saying that or thinking that is such a piece. When you give tax breaks to these companies they are going to keep the tax breaks and continue to use cheaper workers from other companies. There is no real incentive, or provision to make them, hire US workers.
A quote from the below article from McCain to possibly support that thought:
"I can't tell you these jobs are ever coming back. The old jobs aren't coming back"
http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/14/mccain-red-white-and-outsourced/
Do some research on outsourcing to India and its origins...
Bill and Hill...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702780_pf.html
WARNING!!
This video should not be viewed by older women with bladder control issues. Trust me on this one. 
Based on Cat 3. When NWS warning came out,
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I see you did not issue the same warning for ...
BDayes...but then, why would you? Hitch up your skirt, your double standard is showing.
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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/25/7441/ The Washington Post link in this article is good as well.
CULT warning. "Trust no
information that is not directly from us." Faux cult. True Believers.
CULT warning. Disparage any
institution that does not follow our strict definitions of correctness. All or nothing thinking. For us or against us. Faux cult. True Believers.
WARNING about opening links some
got a nice, nasty worm on my computer for my trouble. Attacking verbally is one thing, but attacking people's computers is pretty low. That poster better hope like he!! her employer doesn't get that same worm from her.
Not to mention...how about a 25,000 year warning?....sm
The Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012.....the year Obama's term as president, will be nearing its end....
http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm
I remember studying Revelations in bible school when I was a teenager....scared the you know whatsits outta me....
I'm also wondering about Nostradamus for the future, as well.....
Obesity causing global warning.
Here is a video that talks about the two. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UjeoYGRX98
So then all those Muslim radicals in NY warning about a mushroom cloud over the US
were just kidding....OH THOSE GUYS!!!
WARNING - dont open the above poster's document -
and it was a real beeotch to get rid of. Spent all evening redoing work it erased, and returning PC to prior settings.
Nice. Real nice.
Interesting trial story - warning, kind of racy
This woman, Phyllis, is a friend and former
co-employee of a very good friend of mine. My friend went to her trial on
Monday. We'd been following this for the past year. I was surprised
they found here guilty so easily, but I guess rules are rules. Now
remember, Phyllis is a retired teacher from Fox Valley Technical
College and her description was that the guard kept touching her breasts and
crotch over and over like she was enjoying it. Now bear in mind that this
guard was investigating the privates of a 62-year-old gray-haired retired
schoolteacher from Appleton at the Appleton, Wisconsin airport - a very
small airport. Wondered what you all thought --- as for me I'm
undecided. I see this made the national headlines.
Woman Convicted of Groping Screener
GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) - A woman who was upset over
being searched bodily at an airport was convicted Tuesday of assaulting a
security screener by grabbing the federal officer's breasts.
A federal jury heard the case against retired
teacher Phyllis Dintenfass, who also allegedly shoved the screener during the
search at the Outagamie County Regional Airport in Appleton in September 2004.
Dintenfass, 62, faces up to a year in federal prison
and $100,000 in fines. The judge set sentencing for Nov. 1.
12px>On Monday, Transportation Security Administration screening supervisor
Anita Gostisha testified that Dintenfass activated metal detectors at a
checkpoint, and she heard Dintenfass say she thought the problem was bobby pins
and barrettes in her hair.
Gostisha said she took the woman to another
screening area, where she used a handheld wand. Gostisha said she was following
protocol when she also performed a ``limited pat-down search.''
Gostisha said she was using the back of her hands to
search the area underneath Dintenfass' breasts when the woman lashed out at her.
``She said `How would you like it if I did that to
you?' and slammed me against the wall,'' Gostisha testified. ``She came at me
and grabbed my breasts and squeezed them.''
Distenfass claimed she acted in self-defense.
``I said, 'What are you doing? No one's done that to
me before,''' she said. ``And she kept going ... for what felt like an
interminably long time.''
Dintenfass denied shoving Gostisha, but admitted
putting her hands on the agent's breasts.
``I was mortified that I had done that,'' she said.
``I was reacting to what felt like an absolute invasion of my body.''
U.S. Attorney Steven Biskupic said TSA officers
perform a vital service and are entitled to protection from assault.
Nice rant....however...
look up perjury. Perjury is a lying UNDER OATH. A felony. Just plain old lying....like people do every day...just plain old lying. Just in case you did not know...when a President is sworn in he puts the hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the laws of the United States of America. Whoops!! So he not only perjured himself..he broke his oath. But no big deal...right? OF course not. You love generalities don't you? Liars like Bush and his ilk...I could say the same thing about Billary...liars and their ilk. They have both been caught in so many...as I am sure every other politician on the face of the earth.
Some of these posters remind me of the cliques in junior high who made fun of the fat kids or the kids in glasses, yada yada...same bullies, all grown up.
Sigh.
Geez.... RANT ON!
W
Not to hijack your rant, but there
the Bush administration used as a pretext to declaring war. We went to war and into debt and lives were lost over a lie made up to fulfill a plan that was devised prior to 9/11.
And btw, gay marriage will not harm your marriage in any way, unless your DW/DH is having an affair on the side and decides to make an honest man/woman out of the other person.
Uh....I don't think I posted a RANT like you just did...
you might want to take a page from your own book and seek therapy. And if you really read closely...I was not blaming Obama for anything...LOL. I was saying those who were posting about Sanford were trying to take the conversation away from Obama. Geeeezzzzz, just figures. I knowwww you are in love with the Prez. I know you think he can do no wrong. With all he has done that you fail to recognize that is pretty much obvious. Your tolerant and open mind is showing again....NOT.
How about warning before you open any links from pubs or dems or other ANONYMOUS PEOPLE
just because they say they are a pub doesn't mean anything. You know ANYONE can post on here right???
Thank you for another vote democrat or die rant...
PUMA is not just comprised of women. Obviously you are not getting all the news. THere are some po'ed men out there too. Talk about a hand-picked celebrity...you make this too easy! Nobody knew who Obama was until his speech at the last DNC convention. That was when Howard Dean trotted him out, the heir apparent, the only way they could beat Hillary Clinton...a rock star African American candidate. Orchestrated to do just that...dispossess Hillary Clinton and remove the Clintons once and for all. In case you hadn't noticed it, Howard Dean despises the Clintons. And the media jumped right on the bandwagon, doing everything in their power to thwart Hillary Clinton and pursue their love fest with Obama...because...and you on the inside can't see the forest for the trees...you are buying it hook, line, and sinker. And not only that, you are HELPING them. It is an amazing thing to watch.
Republicans smug? OMG. Pot kettle BIG time.
Uh....Obama said..."oh and by the way he's black." He did play the race card...but then so did BILL CLINTON. Geez.
No, he has not gambled away his experience card...because YOU keep bringing it up, which only brings your #1's lack of experience to the top and keeps everyone thinking about it.
THANK YOU! lol
nobody cares about your pro mccain rant
loser
Changing the subject to the tax rant
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Rant away if it makes you feel better.
You've gotton so many things wrong, it's laugable.
First of all, saying "people like you" once again shows your lack of understanding of the situation. I do not protest outside of abortion clinics. Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't.
Much like you don't want religion in your politics, I don't want somebody's stinking LACK of morals in MY politics. Gay marriage. Late-term abortion. Did you ever stop to think that THAT might be offense to others? No. Because people like you are so busy beating your chests like gorillas and proclaiming how liberal and open-minded you lot are. When all the while you're trying to stomp on anyone and everyone who has the audicity to display a little faith in God.
As far as "running all over the world" - you're just running your mouth instead of your brain. I go to Russia twice a year. Russia is not "all over the world" but I suppose I can blame the public school system who apparently didn't let you in on that little secret.
And "that perfect little baby" once again shows your inabilty to comprehend the situation. You have no idea about the conditions I've seen in Russian orphanages. They are little more than warehouses for children, so that particular high horse of yours is lame as well. Why don't YOU go advocate for the foster kids in America? Better yet, don't. It wouldn't be fair to the kids.
If you had any capacity for learning, you would have rememberd that I have a WHOLE HOUSEFUL of adopted children. All are special needs, all are from the foster care system right here in the good 'ol USA. So your comment "children here are just too much of a pain in the a$$ for you" is offensive and, once again, totally off base.
I have never rambled about how wonderful I am. Nor have I said how $hitty anyone else is, though in your case I will make an exception. If you think I'm boasting it's because you have an inferiority complex.
I'm sorry if you want me to cry and pat you on your little head and feel sorry for you and how hard the abortion was on YOU. I'm sure there are plenty of P.C. posters who will crowd all around you and applaud your courageous decision to kill an infant instead of doing the right, albeit more difficult, thing and leaving your abusive husband and caring for yourself and your child. Too bad you didn't have the support system of a good Christian church to help you make a better decision. I don't have any patience for people who martyr themselves and then want everyone to throw them a big pity party.
Sorry to burst your rant bubble, but...
There are Christmas parades, Easter parades, and Christian cruises, so why shouldn't there be gay pride parades and gay cruises?
I won't respond to the rest of your rant because, frankly, it made me dizzy just reading parts of it!
Feel better after your self-righteous rant?
The Palestinians are terrorits, who thrive on chaos and bloodshed.
If it makes you feel all giddy to root for the savages, go ahead. You've clearly closed your mind off to the truth. Just like they wanted you to.
Nice to know even monsters can find support from folks like you.
It must really burn you, though, that Israel is kicking the holy h3ll out of your little bunch of Arab buddies.
So what do you think about the warnings that Palestinans are going to resort to suicide bombers (since they clearly can't hit squat with their rockets)?
Who do you think they're going to strap those little puppies to, anyway? It won't be the "soldiers." No sir. They're targeting their recruitment at women and boys. Yeah, that's real gallant.
Back to the Stone Age! Shouldn't take long now.
Man's IRS rant hits a nerve. sm
An article on a letter to the Editor of a newspaper making its rounds on the Internet.
http://www.suntimes.com/business/1467702,w-dear-irs-texas-barnett-taxes030909.article
Here is Mr. Barnett's letter:
Taxed to excess
Dear IRS,
I am sorry to inform you that I will not be able to pay taxes owed April 15, but all is not lost.
I have paid these taxes: accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog licence tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting licence tax, fishing licence tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle licence registration tax, capitol gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, Colorado property tax, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma and New Mexico sales tax, and many more that I can’t recall but I have run out of space and money.
When you do not receive my check April 15, just know that it is an honest mistake. Please treat me the same way you treated Congressmen Charles Rangle, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and ex-Congressman Tom Dashelle and, of course, your boss Timothy Geithner. No penalties and no interest.
P.S. I will make at least a partial payment as soon as I get my stimulus check.
Ed Barnett
Wichita Falls
This is just unfathomable to me (caution - rant enclosed)
I said once I'd never post on this board again, but this isn't a political issue, it reaches across the board. This just blows me away. 60 days' punishment for stealing this child's innocence and scarring her forever - it's just so far beyond appalling that I can't even think of a word that fits. I have to wonder if this guy would have been off the streets longer if he'd stolen a purse. Heaven forbid if he'd tortured a dog the way he tortured this child - they'd have probably thrown away the key! If he'd only gotten 60 days for it, you can bet PETA would have been all over it, but who is there for this little girl?Anyway, I have fired off a letter to Vermont's governor, for all the good it will probably do, and I am also sending prayers for this poor child.
Free is your rant, not Obama's proposal.
to put a fox in charge of the chicken coop? The economy is a wreck and cannot be fixed by those who refuse to even discuss the issue.
Wow another angry rant by a SORE LOSER!
You LOST. The Good Guys Won. Get OVER IT! You'll feel better when you begin to confront your angry, hurt feelings and realize how much America repudiated your TREASON and your HATE.
China
They're the ones we need to worry about. They're the ones holding the purse strings.
You are losing it gt, starting to scream and rant. Best rest now. nm
I have no clue why you added this Bush rant to my post...
George Bush did not single-handedly send troops to war. There is that little ol thing called Congress who have to vote to allow him to go to war, he can't just do it on his own. And guess what...they DID. Democrats and Republicans alike. I just don't understand why some Americans don't understand THAT. Blame it on George Bush, like he was King or something. He did not do it alone. And you are right, I will NEVER accept that ANY soldier died for no reason. How arrogant of anyone to even suggest such a thing. Our men and women in uniform go where they are sent and they do their duty. Shame on ANY American who would publically say those brave young men and women died in vain, I don't care what their politics are. To me, that reeks.
I also do not know why it is so easy for some Americans to totally ignore the many reasons we went into Iraq. Have you ever actually read the Iraq resolution passed by Congress? I seriously doubt it. Hussein was in violation of so many UN resolutions it would take a ream of paper to list them. And he did finance and harbor terrorists. One of the perps of the Achille Lauro hijacking lived out his miserable life there being given free medical care and a free ride by the Hussein government. Zarqawi had his little terrorist training camp up in Northern Iraq for a year before we went in. One of Hussein's higher ups met with Mohammed Atta a couple of months before 9-11. What do you think they were talking about? The weather?
I don't believe I even mentioned the President in my post. I believe we went into Iraq for a good reason, we had been hit and we had to hit back harder. We did so in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have not had another major attack since that happened. Wonder why that is...????
My point is, the President is not singly responsible for the war in Iraq. The Congress is just as responsible. So when you start to lay blame and malign the names of good men and women who died for something they believed in, even if you don't....you should spread the blame evenly. Get off the Hate Bush train and back into reality.
I didn't rant, honey, just gave my opinion........sm
I did try to explain it to you, very nicely. You and others just won't listen.
I don't mind, really I don't. Makes it so much easier for McCain to win.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings......
Let's chat again on Nov 5, shall we?
No sale.....sounds like a rush limpball rant
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And what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?sm
As if there was a crisis in the travel department under Clinton.
Whatever gets you through this.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
We're all Americans and we've all contributed in some way. I'm not into oneupmanship.
OMG who gives a frick about China
:)
Sorry, China OWNS us...
they have major holdings in our financial institutions and hold a lot of weight here in real estate, etc, and I don't just mean a few houses. Also, when you shop at WalMart, where do you think all those items (and most we buy) come from? You better give a "frick" about them.
American only and China
I read an article recently that stated that relations between our government and China's are tense since they added the Jobs for Americans only to the stimulus bill and that since either 95% or 98% of our debt is owned by China that will make it hard to keep that part in the bill because China would then demand to be paid in full and also not let us borrow any more, which we need to fund this stimulus plan. Now, don't flame me, I'm all for work coming back to America and I would love to make more than I made 10 years ago in this job, I'm just stating what I read and to me it makes sense that the Chinese would be pissed...they loaned us money and the majority of our mfg jobs have gone to them so then they would be out the money and their people would not have jobs so I doubt that jobs for Americans only will stay in the bill.
If China wanted to do that...(sm)
they would have already done it when the economic crisis hit. We already owe them tons of money. I think they would make out better collecting interest off us than spending their resources trying to "control" us, which would eventually lead to yet another war. What I think should be in the bill is help for those who need it immediately (the ones who have already lost jobs and extending state funds to make budgets) and infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, green job advancement. This can't be outsourced, it generates revenue, it provides jobs, and its needed. The more people we put back to work or keep at work, the better chance we have of paying these bills off through taxable income.
I know it looks like an enormous amount of money to be going into debt for (and it is), but at this point I don't think we have any choice. If you want to talk national security, a depression would leave us much more vulnerable than being in debt. Being vulnerable is not an option at this point.
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