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Oops. A voyeur peeking in on two adults.

Posted By: Bad Mommy, Bad Mommy! on 2009-06-14
In Reply to: You might want to check again. - Marmann




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There is no need to be snotty, we are all adults sm
This is not redistribution. It is simply a more fair tax structure. Actually so far, I've been helping the rich by paying more taxes proportionately than they do. Yes, my dear, in a civilized society, we all pay taxes. For someone who is poor to pay more than they can afford is not fair. I will from now on ignore your posts as you are as thick as one.
Kids are meaner than adults

Talk about a jungle where only the strong survive - makes this board look like a tea party with the queen of England.


if kids are forced to do it, then adults should be too
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Report: 1 in 31 U.S. adults in prison system


Updated: 8:07 p.m. ET Nov. 2, 2005

WASHINGTON - Nearly 7 million adults were in U.S. prisons or on probation or parole at the end of last year, 30 percent more than in 1995, the Justice Department said Wednesday.


That was about one in every 31 adults under correctional supervision at the end of 2004, compared with about 1 in 36 adults in 1995 and about 1 adult in every 88 in 1980, said Allan J. Beck, who oversaw the preparation of the department’s annual report on probation and parole populations.


Beck attributed the overall rise in the number of people under correctional supervision to sentencing reforms of the 1990s. The nation’s incarcerated population has been increasing for more than 30 years, with sharp growth in the last decade.He said crime rates have fallen in recent years, which helps account for slower growth among people on probation — those allowed to live in the community with some restrictions rather than being incarcerated.


The number of people on probation in 2004 grew by 6,343 to about 4.2 million in 2004, the report said.


Nearly 50 percent of all probationers at the end of last year were convicted of a felony. Twenty-six percent were on probation for a drug-law violation, and 15 percent for driving while intoxicated, said the annual Justice Department report.


Racial imbalance persists in probation
Whites made up 56 percent of the probation population and only 34 percent of the prison population, according to Wednesday’s report and another Justice Department report released last month.


“White people — for whatever reason — seem to have more access to community supervision than African Americans and Hispanics,” said Jason Ziedenberg, executive director of the Justice Policy Institute, which promotes alternatives to incarceration. He called probation a cheaper and more effective form of rehabilitation.


Blacks, he noted, comprised 30 percent of probationers and 41 percent of prisoners at the end of 2004. Hispanics made up 12 percent of the probation population and 19 percent of the prison population


Parolees grew fastest among those under correctional supervision. They are criminal offenders who rejoin society with restrictions for a time after they complete a prison term.


Number of parolees grows
The adult parole population grew 20,230, or 2.7 percent, during the year, more than twice the average annual increase of 1.3 percent since 1995, the report said. The total number of parolees at the end of 2004 was 765,355.


Beck said a late 1990s spike in prison populations is now showing up in the number of parolees, as the number of prisoners released rises.


The parole population grew during 2004 in 39 states, with double-digit growth in 10 states, led by Nebraska’s 24 percent increase. The number of people on parole decreased in nine states and didn’t change in Maine.


About 187,000, or 39 percent of discharged parolees went back to prison or jail in 2005. While the number has grown, the rate has held relatively stable since 1995, when 160,000, or 39 percent of discharged parolees returned to incarceration.


The total number of people incarcerated in the United States grew 1.9 percent in 2004 to 2,267,787 people, according to the report released last month.


© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

How about knocking some of those able-bodied adults on welfare...
off and using that to fund health care for children? Should go a long way. Make the hard decisions. Which is more important? But then you have the issue of that woman who has 3 or 4 kids and feeding them on welfare, you kick her off welfare to insure her kids, who is going to feed them? See a pattern here? We need to look at ALL assistance programs and trim the fat. The federal government (more specifically yours and my tax dollars) was never intended to support people who can work but won't. Social programs have gone way, way, WAY out of proportion. And the people who get the benefit of the programs pay nothing into them...zip, zilch, nada. How is that fair to the rest of us, pray tell? If they raise our taxes much more, the whole country will have to be on welfare and assistance just to pay for our insurance and everyone else's. There has to be an end to this somewhere...am I the only one who sees this vicious circle?
Because leftist extremists are not emotionally or mentally adults
They cannot hold their own in debate, so they throw fits and insults. They throw they pre-programmed leftist talking points that have nothing of substance behind them.  They cannot have an adult conversation simply because they are not adults psychologically.
agree, but to be fair if 1 person is forced, then everyone (adults too) should be
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Oh MM, oops, I mean gt. SM
I think you have enough hate for the whole world.  I'll leave that to you.
Oops!

I see they also accused you of being me (and/or others) in your more current posts using the ?? moniker.  In reading your posts there, it was obvious you were sincerely looking for debate, and all you did was ask intelligent questions that should have led to an intelligent debate.  Instead it lead to more personal attacks and name calling, without EVER once addressing the ISSUE you were attempting to address.  I'm sorry you were treated so badly there.  You did nothing to deserve their wrath, other than act like a normal respectful human being with valid questions, and they have little tolerance for people like that. 


If you search further down on this board, you'll see where I attempted to debate one of them here well over a month ago.  The person, who I was fooled into believing was sincere about being here to debate, clearly didn't have any responses, though she promised to respond later and never did.  She had the golden opportunity to add something of value and continue the debate process I had begun, but she chose to ignore that and I suppose found more pleasure in insulting others, adding nothing of substance or value to this board, as they constantly do to their own board. 


They constantly accuse liberals on this board of being heinous people, their most favorite accusation seeming to be how hateful we all are, yet I think they honestly don't realize how hateful they come across constantly.  Or maybe they do.  Who knows?


Oops, try this one.sm
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/disowning-conservative-politics-is/20060729195809990005?ncid=NWS00010000000001
oops
that would be though they are all bad


Little Dem oops...
Y'know how the Democrats were so opposed to McCain's proposed holiday from the gas tax while gas was so high? Welllll....seems the Dem Nat'l Committee has not only been enjoying tax-free gas in Denver (site of convention), they have been getting it totally free on the front end because there is no signed contract in place to pay for the gas used (even it is tax free), they basically told the Denver mayor they were "good for it." Well, guess they can borrow from Barack if they get in a pinch...lol. The Mayor is the one who offered gas tax free...and seems the state of Colorado has taken exception to that, and the state revenue dept launched an investigation because that is a no-no...the state did not agree to wave the gas tax, and why did the Dems Natl Committee even agree to that when they had been totally against it for the rest of us out here struggling, even for a little gas tax holiday. LOL. Sooo typical. Do as we SAY America, NOT as we DO. Unnnbelievable. LOL. When asked about it, the mayor replied, obviously before having checked with the St. Paul people..."The Republicans are doing the same thing in St. Paul!" Well, number one, they aren't; but even if they were, that somehow makes it right? LOL. The Republicans were FOR a gas tax holiday. The Dems were against it. Well...except the Dem Natl Committee it seems. Heard a local Denver radio show talking about it. Seems not all Denverites, Dem and Repub alike, are impressed with this decision...go figure.
Oops. sm
I did research it...

His wife outed him.

Obama used the roundtable audience, as she did yesterday, to describe her husband's understanding of women's issues through the prism of the strong -- but sometimes struggling -- women in his life.

His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him." And, Obama added, he has observed his wife's attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations.

"He sees me, his wife, who struggles every day with that guilt that we all hold deep in our hearts as women," she said. "That guilt that you don't have the choice to stay home, and even if you do, you feel guilty."

"He has seen me struggle with this my entire life," she added. "Trust me, Barack understands the struggles of women."

Exactly diametrically opposite from things that have been posted here today.

I don't think Sarah Palin, OR Barack Obama's mother, deserve this kind of criticism.
Oops! nm
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the one who received the disability within two months.... was "HEARING VOICES" .... whatever.... if you ask me, the only voice he has never heard was the one telling him to continue to be lazy and work the system.
Oops. (sm)

Sorry.  Didn't see that. 


Oops. big bad me
I made a <gasp> typo!  OMG I am the scourge of humanity.  No as a matter of fact I did not write in Nader.  Guess again.
Oops, message above

OOPS, THAT SHOULD BE REPUBLICAN!!! SORRY!!
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Oops,sorry about the typo. I should know better sm
after 25 years as an MT. 20 lashes with a wet noodle.
Oops, thought I was in the U.S.!!
And I guess peace ain't as popular as it used to be.....seems to be a really dirty word on this board.
Oops, please reverse the above!
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oops == There should be "This" sorry nm
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oops...that should be under-educated. (nm)
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Oops...should be see message not (nm)
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oops - some typos
I meant she does not consider people who do service-oriented jobs as human beings (otherwise she would not have made the comment that she is going to start considering the cleaning lady as a real person).
Oops I forgot to add
I'd also like to know what it is about Obama that you love. And also why are you comparing Gov Palin to Sen Obama and not Sen Biden.
oops - should be desert
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oops that should have gone down a few posts
regarding Michelle Bachmann
oops! someone recognized herself! are you
came back to see what's up on politics board, and its the same as 2 weeks ago. it's still boring here.

toodles,
oops - I meant they want us to get out - nm
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oops - I heard him - nm
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oops meant someone not sometime (nm)
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oops. That should be 'have' nm
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Oops. You're right. (sm)

I see that now.  (Not sure what I was thinking when I posted that.)


Like you, when I can afford to give to a charity, I have always chosen to give to the Salvation Army.


Oops - yes I am one in the same - just want to be honest
I used grim reaper above cos that's what I thought of when I read the article I posted. Guess I should have put Grim Reaper/Just me as my name so there wouldn't have been any confusion.
Oops, should be under Lu's post! Do
wrong impression of you, JTBB! I do wish you could have this same assurance, it is yours for the asking!
Oops! I "would" rather...
Apparently, I need to proof these posts a little better!
Oops! Got no link there!
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Oops...make that 4....(sm)
forgot the Torah.
Oops...you're---self-correcting

Oops. Sould be UN InspectorS
Sorry for the typo.
Oops forgot link. sm
http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/news/0113.html
oops above post have said sm message, not NM

sorry 'bout that.........


"you're" oops.
i hate spelling errors! :)
oops - my subject line got cut off
I just like that she is "up" on energy policies - not sure if that's coming out right, but i've been reading good things about that.
Joe and Hunter and MBNA - oops!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/25/us/politics/25biden.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin
Oops! Don't say Amen - not everyone believes the same!
=)
Oops...nice typo! (nm)

(oops - got cut off) - They're still a species
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Oops...should be "checking" the facts (nm)
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