One person's pork is another ocmmunity's
Posted By: economic gain. -nm on 2009-04-14
In Reply to: I'd really like to understand this - hmmm
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Pork?
I thought the obamanator wasn't going to allow pork in his stimulus package? That man will say anything and then turn around and do anything. I don't trust him at all. I was giving him a chance but I just don't see how I can anymore. We never should have elected someone who learned politics from corrupt politicians in Illinois. Something is horribly wrong here.
PORK
Jobs? Pleeze......there are doctors to help these folks, doctors already in place. There will be no REAL jobs created for this crap.
I am sitting here talking with a nutritionist at a local hospital, doctorate degree, and she said this will do absolutely nothing to create jobs, that it is just another bunch of crap.
She has seen all this broohaha before, wanting to help the obese and smokers and all it does is create more paperwork for those already doing the job.
These are SOCIAL programs. We do not need more social programs. Don't you realize that? More social programs = MORE GOVERNMENT. More government is the problem.
I hope to he!! they get rid of the dog and frisbee park and all the other garbage in there.
I don't want to pay for anyone's birth control and condoms either......
Guess that will produce jobs too?
Pork....(sm)
$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts.
Mapplethorpe is pleased, remember crosses in jars of urine?
This one was in the House bill, not in the Senate bill.
$650 million for digital-TV coupons.
TV is going digital and it is necessary for people to be able to get converter boxes. Otherwise, no news, no TV, etc.
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters.
Renovation means construction = jobs.
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers.
Buy new computers = putting money in the economy = jobs for people to build computers.
$150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish.
This is straight up help for food production. In particular, there is a serious problem right now with lack of honeybees. As in, pollination is a problem right now. I'm actually thinking about raising honeybees myself for help with my garden.
Believe it or not, dems want to cut the pork too! nm
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For pork hunters...(sm)
A lot of you are saying that there is still pork in the stimulus. How about listing those pork projects that are still in the bill. I'm interested to see what you think is pork.
King of Pork!
And the King is...... Robert Byrd - D-WVA
60 earmarks for a total of 122 million.....
Only $473,000? Whoever submitted that bit of pork
We just spent $6 million to install bomb detection equipment at the airport in (drumroll.....) Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I've been worried sick about Jackson Hole, haven't you?
At least they're trying to stop most of the pork
I don't know why you DON'T object to most of this stimulus package. It's a bunch of crap. Three quarters of the stuff doesn't belong in a STIMULUS PACKAGE, it belongs in the BUDGET.
Definition of Pork aka Earmarks
Just so we all know what pork (aka "earmarks") actually is:
http://www.earmarks.omb.gov
/earmarks_definition.html
From the Office of Management and Budget:
OMB defines earmarks as funds provided by the Congress for projects or programs where the congressional direction (in bill or report language) circumvents Executive Branch merit-based or competitive allocation processes, or specifies the location or recipient, or otherwise curtails the ability of the Executive Branch to manage critical aspects of the funds allocation process.
In other words, provisions added to a bill after the president has ratified the bill that direct funds to certain districts in exchange for promises made beforehand by the representatives from those districts to vote yes on said bill. These are the earmarks (or "pork") that McCain and Obama both campaigned against. This bill contains no pork (yet) because they just passed it.
The GOP's definition of earmarks aka "pork": "Stuff we don't like."
Technically, the provisions in the bill that the GOP and others are calling pork (or earmarks) are not pork.
Yeah, full of pork, just like those awful republicans
nm
yes, the first person did....the person replying to that post...
was talking about the founding fathers...who came along a long time after the witch trials. You replied to the second post, not the first one. I was replying to you based on that. Purtianism came first...Christianity was the religion practiced by the founding fathers. It is evident in their writings and in most of our original documents.
I think we can stop whipping this dead horse now.
Whoops....A person....not I person.
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No, we are not the same person....
Americangirl is a Republican I believe, and I am an independent (who changed my registration to Repub so I could vote in the primary, but will be changing back), but yes, we are both conservative. In some ways she more so than I, in some ways I more so than she. If you look at our posts, we are very different in how we post and we certainly don't agree with each other all the time.
The same could be said for many of the liberal posters. There is one for sure that posts under different monikers, but you can always tell...when one comes under attack the other swoops to defend. Americangirl and I do not post like that.
Thanks for asking.
Actually, you are the person who needs (sm)
to relax. I really do not know why you keep insisting that someone was smeared. It is rather bizarre. She posted an article that mentioned his middle name, you created a huge post about his middle name and why it is used to attack him, I mention that you are creating issues over nothing, then you insist that someone is being smeared? Very strange...
if one person somewhere
said that one time, we must take it completely seriously and mention it at every opportunity. Fight fire with fire.
Person like this is beyond help.
nm
The person who said this was not....
a commentator for Fox News. She is Caroline Baum and she works for Bloomberg News. She was being interviewed on the Fox Morning Show and was giving her opinion. Just that, her opinion. Why should there be outrage?
I'm the same person
Don't know how I got the two separated but just so you know I'm the same person. Don't want to appear misleading. Sometimes on the gab board I will put Kaydie and on the political board I put me, but every once inawhile the two get backwards. Not sure I can reset that so only one name will come up. Like I say, not being misleading I just don't know how to reset. PS, still been coming to the board here this morning since I last posted (I think I need some counseling to get un-addicted to this board ha ha), but still haven't had a chance to read your post. Still, thank you for the time you took to reseach and I will read with an open mind. After all I could be wrong. I usually tell people. I may not always be right, but I am never wrong. HA HA HA. Will read your post later - promise.
I think that each person needs to do what his ....sm
conscience tells him to do and not be criticized by us for doing so. Let the chips fall where they may.
Now I know this person is not an MT
"The fees for doing this are not cheap, but you are MTs and make high paying salaries, so $20,000 to $30,000 should not be a problem here." Made me laugh my butt off.
I don't see where this person is
racist at all. This person is merely pointing out that there is racism out there on BOTH sides and this is what it could potentially lead to.
No, this person's sig is also clearly sm as well
check it out, it's everywhere on here.
any person who
uses Hitler to compare anyone to, be it Obama or Bush, deserves to be ignored. There is no comparison to be made in this country to that era. To use his name for shock value shows extreme ignorance of history and inability to grasp basic facts, let alone nuances, relying instead on the worst of the worst. Shameful and ignorant.
I think it's down to $400/person now......sm
another cut courtesy of our esteemed politicians. That's only about $8.25 a week or a couple gallons of milk, at least at current prices.
And not one person gives him
a freebie just because of his skin color either....Sheesh.
I'll admit there are some people who are going to hate Obama just because he is black or mixed or whatever the heck he really is. But there are several people following him blindly for the exact same reason. So if you are going to post about racism....please do so fairly and consider both sides of the spectrum.
And not one person gives him
a freebie just because of his skin color either....Sheesh.
I'll admit there are some people who are going to hate Obama just because he is black or mixed or whatever the heck he really is. But there are several people following him blindly for the exact same reason. So if you are going to post about racism....please do so fairly and consider both sides of the spectrum.
I see a person as
either male or female. If that person decides to describe himself as a sin, that's how I will see them, based on the description they have given of themselves. And that description is sinful. Very simple. I hate the description because God tells me to hate it.
You're a very wise person.
There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post. And you're right. That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that. (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)
Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.
Do you always speak of yourself in the third person? sm
I see no difference in your writing style. Same old stuff.
I probably have used third person at times....
Why is it so important to you?
And if you cannot see the obvious differences in writing, well, you appear to be quite ignorant or unobservant or else you are not telling the truth. But that is your problem and I am not going to make it mine!!!
Obviously, this person was not attacking. sm
The underlined part just goes to prove that they are NOT attacking liberals. I am unsure of your rationalization on this one.
Obviously, this person does not wish to debate. TI
We are wasting our time here.
Who said a person should be president because
My point is that we should be glad there are women in elections and holding high-profile positions in this country instead of attacking their mothering skills or parenting choices. There are plenty of women who think ANY mother that works outside the home in any form is making a poor parenting choice. It should be to each his or her own, please do not try to twist my words to fit your agenda. I never, EVER said I would vote for someone solely to have a woman in office. I said I hailed Hillary's accomplishment, not that I would vote for her (in fact, I said I didn't care for her) and I never said I agree with everything Palin says or does, just that her family is her own business.
On the contrary, I don't vote gender, family, public opinion, or party affiliation, I vote based on the person's abilities and whether I feel they are qualified for the position. Period.
Sally, you really are a mean person.
nm
Any person earning less than $57,490/yr
income earners in the US. We are not taling about skid row bums and deadbeats. Ever heard of the concept of the shrinking middle class? Is that a good thing for the nation? The lower 40% of the ENTIRE POPULATION of the US owns LESS THAN 1% of the total national wealth. This includes a very, very sizeable chunk of the entire middle class. MTs are always complaining about how they are not paid what they are worth. Does it make sense that all persons combined making less than $57,490/yr own less than 1% of the national wealth? Do these people do less than 1% of the work? Does this seem like an equitable distribution of wealth to you? Please answer these questions directly. Yes or no?
I person of faith
who pubically ridiculed the Bible in a speech. A man who has sketchy associations. A man who attended a school in Indonesia were his school records list his religion as muslim and yet he denies ever being a muslim. A man who allowed his children to be baptized and attend a church where the pastor preached hate messages. A man who supports partial birth abortions......
Please excuse me while I vomit!
I don't think any one person, President or not, can do much - sm
to change the stock market. It seems to have a life of its own, albeit a rather shady one. I don't feel too bad seeing the insurance companies take a hit - they're all crooks and they deserve what they get for being so dishonest. But banks, 401Ks, money market, etc. There has to be someplace left, other than under a mattress, where our savings/rainy-day/retirement money is at least somewhat safe, without earning 0 interest. And forget about buying real-estate! That bubble has burst, as well. Goodbye to any kind of financial security (or even a place to live) for lots of us in our so-called 'Golden Years'.
Well, see, that person that posted obviously has it in...sm
for sam. I know it. You know it. Everbody who sees it knows it....sooooo there's nothing to say because this person says it all about herself.
This person and her buddies play games with her all the time, and really act childish.
And, I, well....really.....unless I resort to name calling, I really have nothing to say, because this person has waayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands and has a personal vendetta against sam.
And by the way, I'm not on the board very often. I don't respond to every single post I see. I don't know who you have me confused with.
But really, all you're doing is being kind of condescending in your response here to me, so why should I bother?
You have me labeled a certain way, and frankly my dear, as one of your cohorts has said recently.....well, just frankly.....
You have too much time on your hands too, if you think you have to post to everybody's post....get a life....while you're at it, get me one too. I work too much and come here and find too much crap posted to try to sift through in a day....so I rarely bother.....just like you rarely to bother to know who I am......
oh, I must be ranting again.....sorry.....you probably think I had nothing to say anyway......
lolololol....................
At least I can laugh at myself, which some on this board don't know how to do anymore.
This is not conviction but a person who has been
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That "unskilled" person could have been my
DH 25 years ago. The first and only company he has worked for sent him to school and now he is at over 200K a year, not too bad for unskilled.
As a godless person myself....
who used to call herself an atheist, until I discovered that in itself was a type of warped-ass "religion," I think it is totally rude, distateful, and smacks of looking for a fight. Why can't we all just be good to one another? It's so much easier to do and makes ya feel good inside. 
Why are you so concerned about this person?
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Tell me the last election that a person who is not
a natural born citizen ran for president. I was born in 1960 so maybe there were some before my time, but I thought every election the candidate was a natural born citizen.
This coming from the very person
who didn't know what sm and NM meant and thought every person using sm was the same person.
At least I'm not blinded by the promise of change from a man who has no experience running anything but his mouth.
This is the sort of person
who should be put in front of "our boys" should there ever be an attach on our soil!
No, but that is certainly where this person's mind
There is an audio out of Harlem showing citizens there who didn't have a clue who was even running for office. This was black and white based, so the only racist person here is the one letting their minds go there. The "black lady" you're referring to has made racist remarks all over this board and funny how none of us have screamed for the moderator. She can dish it out but she lets her mind go where she wants to if she doesn't like something said.
To 'm' or 'sm' same person...s/m
You are most probably a woman who is unable to conceive. Or who chickened out on an abortion and regrets not having had an abortion.
Whatever it is you are jealous of women who can get pregnant and opt for an abortion.
We, women, who can conceive, have the right to abort a child till the 120th day of pregnancy, and I hope this law will be kept up.
You are one talented person..... sm
A mind reader AND a comedian. You really should get your own show, ya know! 
Here again we have an instance of not looking at things the way they are. Any SC justices appointed by Obama would not be in his pocket but in the pockets of those who put him in power in the first place. Obama is nothing more than a puppet with some very wealthy puppeteers. Do you not undestand that?
you seem like a nice person.
NM
they did not lose one person
They lost an entire generation and their children too probably. Can you say 529 no more?
What an egotistical person.......
Somebody needs to remind Obama that the founding fathers already DID lay a foundation for our country; we sure as heck don't need him to do that. He had the audacity to say the government needs to lay a foundation for our country......pleeeeze! That was done a looong time ago; sorry to tell him but we don't need him to lay any foundations. The foundation was laid and has worked when left alone; the only problems are had when federal government interferes with private lives and nothing will EVER change about that. He somehow also believes he is everyone's answer to their problems. Leave this economy alone and it will come back just like the other downs that we have had to deal with. Of course, he knows this and in a couple of years when things are going much better, he will no doubt strut around like a rooster telling everyone how HE made this happen and for those lamebrains out there who think government is the answer to all their woes, they will actually believe it. How sad!!!
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