One of the things I admired about Clinton...sm

• The Iranian President has challenged Bush to a live debate...sm - LVMT
  • The Iranian president is a whack job & needs to be snuffed out. - Joe Bradley
    • Rapture righties would report you to FBI.... - LOL
      • Waht does this have to do with the post? - CeeCee
  • This is true, we should be able to - passerby
    • One of the things I admired about Clinton...sm - Democrat
  • I wait with bated breath to hear him repeat - Lydia
    • When did he say this and to whom?sm - LVMT
      • I believe not. - Lydia
        • I distinctly remember this speech. - worldfan

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I was only in high school at the time, but I remember being angry with Clinton, and I remember telling people that I thought he did it just to take the heat off of himself for his messy affair.  Of course, at the time I was not into politics really, and it definitely was not an educated opinion on my part, but that is what I thought, to answer your question.

I am angry that Bush (and Congress) did not prepare more before heading to war.  Where were the armored trucks?  Where was the body armour?  Where was a workable plan for getting in and getting out.  We are the richest country in the world, but we did not take enough precautions to keep our soldiers as safe as possible.

I blame many of our country's problems not just onBush, but on the big corporations (oil companies being one of the most powerful) that I believe are buying off our politicians and running this country.  It just so happens that many in the Bush administration previously worked in the petroleum industry.... hmmm, makes you wonder.  I don't know everything about every issue, but I believe in my heart of hearts that Bush does not care about the American people nearly as much as he cares about himself, his rich friends, and his pocketbook.  He reminds me of Cartmen on Southpark "I do what I want" seems to be his attitute at every turn, and imo it makes America looks bad.

Do you lie on purpose to emulate your God Bush or are you just so lacking in common sense and intelligence that you unquestioning believe everything ANY neocon says?

Either way, YOU'RE SPREADING LIES.  In case you haven't noticed lately, AMERICANS ARE GETTING FED UP WITH LIARS....especially UNDEREDUCATED, ILLITERATE, HATEFUL, JUDGMENTAL liars. 

CLINTON DID NOT ORDER WARRANTLESS SEARCHES OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
Here's what Clinton signed:

Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) [50 U.S.C. 1822(a)] of the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance] Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.

• the physical search is solely directed at premises, information, material, or property used exclusively by, or under the open and exclusive control of, a foreign power or powers. Translation: You can't search American citizens.
  
• and there is no substantial likelihood that the physical search will involve the premises, information, material, or property of a United States person. Translation: You can't search American citizens.
  


• Moreover, Clinton's warrant waiver consistent with FISA refers only to physical searches. Physical searches, as defined by 1821(5), exclude electronic surveillance.
  
  
  CARTER DID NOT AUTHORIZE WARRANTLESS SEARCHES OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
  And now, Carter's turn:
  
  1-101. Pursuant to Section 102(a)(1) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(a)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.

• the electronic surveillance is solely directed at communications exclusively between or among foreign powers. Translation: You can't spy on American citizens.
  
• there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party. Translation: You can't spy on American citizens.
  

Section 1803(a)(2) requires that the Attorney General report to Congress (specifically, the House and Senate Intelligence Committees) about whether any American citizens were involved, what minimization procedures were undertaken to avoid it and protect their identities, and whether his actions comply with the law.

It's called check and balance!

He shows what a good photographer can do with any subject.  I saw one where he made Putin look almost human.  Genius with a camera, that's for sure.

No way can Obama offer VP to Queen Hillary.  He should remember what happened to JFK (with Johnson being involved).  What a better way for the Queen to annoint herself to the presidency by getting rid of him.  Don't put it past her either - just remember Ron Brown, Vince Foster, Eric Fox, Sandy Hume, Danny Casolaro, Ronald Rogers, John Wilson, Gandy Baugh, Mary Mahoney, Suzanne Coleman, Judy Gibbs, Gary Johnson, Kathy Ferguson, Bell Shelton, Sally Perdue (didn't mysteriously die but was told if she didn't keep her mouth shut they would break her legs), Jon Walker, Johnny Franklin, Ed Willey, Barbara Alice Wise, Jerry Parks, C. Victor Raiser, L.J. Davis, Herschel Friday, Ron Brown, and the list goes on and on an on....

So no, I would not put it past either of them that something would happen and she would swear herself in as the anointed queen.  Lets just hope Obama has more sense - which I believe he does.

Where do I start?  I love Bill Clinton.  Hs is very intelligent, he can talk about anything and knows what he is talking about.  He did what the first person posted.  He was impeached but he could not be removed from office because he was impeached for was not govenment and it has to pertain to the government to be removed from office.  He was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he earned everything he got.  He has worked very hard.  Funny, but I get the same sick feeling in my stomach whenever I see George Bush's face on TV and the man cannot even speak so how he can do anything else.   The trillion dollar debt, people with no jobs, and the list goes on and on.  Put us in a war we had no business being in.  He has never done anything on his own that turned out good.  Whatever he did was with the help of his father or someone else doing it for him.   He will not return to Crawford, they are going to build a house, but I forgot the location, and he will not be traveling around the world working to get meds for  AIDS patients, starving  children, etc.  Maybe he can help bring back other countries to like us again like they used to until Bush told just about everyone of them he did not need their help and made them angry with us.  I could go on and on but I am tired and going to bed. 

the Oval Office (that I pay for) and ''company time'' to get Lewinskyed on a regular basis.  He may even have gotten a Lewinsky on Fathers Day, who knows?

I believe it is called Fathers Day for a reason.  Obama went golfing on the sacred day, and I don't think Michelle and the kids were with him.   On Fathers Day, it's Daddy that gets the gifts, otherwise it would be called Family Day or Wife and Children's Day or something else. 

Some men give their wives a day at a spa for Mothers Day...should she be required to spend all day with Hubby and kids instead?  Technically, I think the honoree gets to spend their time the way s/he chooses on that day.

Sanford having his trist in Argentina was quite bad enough, do you really have to pile on with Fathers Day as well? 

1:  His approval rating as I write this has now decreased to 29%.  (However, by the time you read this, it may be even lower yet.  He is most definitely *a work in progress,* and the number of Americans who are waking up and smelling the proverbial coffee is increasing at a rapid rate.

2.  The fact that the government has been tracking phone calls of hundreds of millions of Americans may be nothing more than a political *parking ticket* compared to what we might discover next week.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/12/19380/1332

NSA Whistleblower: There's More, People Are Going To Be Shocked

by georgia10

Fri May 12, 2006 at 04:38:00 PM PDT

From the subscription-only Congress Daily, Chris Strohm reports that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice will make some on bombshell revelations on Capitol Hill next week:

A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. Russell Tice, who worked on what are known as special access programs, has wanted to meet in a closed session with members of Congress and their staff since President Bush announced in December that he had secretly authorized the NSA to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens without a court order.  In an interview late Thursday, Tice said the Senate Armed Services Committee finally asked him to meet next week in a secure facility on Capitol Hill.

Tice was fired from the NSA last May. He said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of Hayden, who has been nominated to become director of the CIA. Tice said one of his co-workers personally informed Hayden that illegal and unconstitutional activity was occurring. [...] I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It's pretty hard to believe, Tice said. I hope that they¹ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn't exist right now. [...]

Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance Program that Bush  acknowledged in December and from news accounts this week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of millions of Americans. It's an angle that you haven't heard about yet, he said.

1. My eyes watching Scooter's conviction..  2.  Valerie Plame, the person who knows her situation best.  3. Patrick Fitzgerald.  Now there's a guy with a high IQ that was not manufactured by professional fact fixers.

Can someone explain what those things are outside the RNC.  I understand wanting to protest and you hold a sign up showing your viewpoint and maybe you yell out something you believe in, but I can't understant what those things are that are wearing masks, being dragged away, having to be hosed down by the police.

What a nonsense and insane world they must live in.  I'm all for freedom speech, but this is beyond my understanding. 

Also - don't they have jobs?  Do their employers allow them to take time off work to go do this and get arrested?  I want that job.  HA HA

You do not have the right to call someone ignorant just because they interpret those quotes as racist.  If you don't think they are racist, fine.....after all we are all entitled to our own opinions.  If you can't handle people having a different opinion than your own, don't bother reading or posting on the board.  Calling people names does not prove your point. 

Obviously there are other people on the board other than the original poster who feel those quotes were racist.  I have always thought Obama and his wife were racist and these quotes are just more proof of that.

posting for discussion.  they are recycling the old attacks about flag pins and trying to provoke silly discussions to distract from the precipitous plunge of the McClain campaign in the face of the wall street debacle.

turned around and said about Obama.  The lack of his experience.  He has never run anything.  He has consistetly voted present instead of making an executive decision of yes or no.  He has only been in the senate for 4 years and has spent more money on pork and earmarks in those 4 years than McCain has his whole political career.  Palin got rid of the personal jet the prior governor had.  She has made her state a success and she has given money back to her constituents.  She has the highest approval rating as governor.  You care about the money the RNC spent of Palin's clothes which will be given to charity and you don't comment about the millions and millions of dollars that Obama has spent during his campaign....not to mention the 2 million dollar shindig they are planning in Chicago during election...who is paying for that?  you bring up troopergate with Palin and yet you refuse to see Obama on committees with terrorists who gave money to radical groups.  All the money that Obama raised for educational purposes didn't improve the schools in his district at all.  The housing that was in his area for community organizer....especially the ones owned by Rezko were so bad that people had no heat during the Chicago winters.  The same Rezko who he had sketchy dealings with in order to buy his mansion for way less than what it is worth.  Obama the same man who attended church for 20 years where  the preacher did nothing but preach about how America sucks because it was run by whitey and blacks should take over.  Not to forget his cousin in Kenya who Obama campaigned for and gave money to and when his cousin lost the election....his followers rioted and killed innocent people.  Obama campaigned for him when he visited kenya.  What has Obama run successfully?  The housing in his district were not up to snuff.  The school he pledged to help with the committee he was on did not improve.  Are you not seeing a pattern here.

So go spout your BS somewhere else because this person, who has done her research, isn't listening.  Obama has many more sketchy things in his life than Palin and he has just as little experience.....and he is running for president....NOT VP. 

To me there are 2 glaring problems with this (besides the fact that she can't care for that many children)

1.  She is supposed to be on workers comp for her back, but she can carry a pregnancy of octuplets?  I would think workers comp would be investigating that.  It's one thing to have a bad back and accidentally get pregnant, but this was intentional.

2.  I think she's a certifiable nut, but isn't she majoring in psychology? 

factor into the car industry crisis.  First off, unions, in my opinion, are the bane of the car industry.  States that force unionization show a lower number of production, lower number of job growth, etc.  The states that do not force unions have a higher rating in production and job growth.  When the economy was booming, the unions didn't help but they weren't running business into the ground.  Now that the economy sucks....the unions are sucking the life out of the car industry. 

Next we have Americans buying foreign cars.  Not only does that send money to other countries but it is hurting American auto makers, etc.

Then you have the legacy costs that, just like the unions, were okay during a good economy but are now sucking the life out of the car industry.  To allow people to retire at 50 and then receive that kind of pension is insane.  They shouldn't be letting people retire that early....unless their health doesn't allow them to work.

Then you have the CEOs making huge amounts of money and other higher ups who are making millions to do absolutely nothing.

Now our economy stinks and people can't afford to buy cars and the ones who can are too afraid because the car industry is struggling as well as they are also scared of their own finances if this gets worse. 

All in all....we have succesfully killed the car industry.  Dealerships are closing doors like crazy.  Dealerships go a whole day with no traffic on the lot.  People are losing jobs left and right.  Factories are closing.  People are forced to take a week off each month, etc.  It is truly scary and we have greed to thank for this whole thing.  Greed in government.....greed in the unions.......and greed in CEOs, etc.

that will have to change and happen before I give much praise to the current administration.  As for Nasdaq going up....that is great but we will all have to wait and see if it stays up.

No matter what rhetoric you preach or how much kool-aid you drink, the fact of the matter is common sense.....you can't spend and borrow your way out of debt.  The current administration is making a huge mistake spending all of this money

Obama says he wants better education and yet he does away with vouchers and the teachers union does nothing but keep bad teachers employed.  You cannot let the teachers union control things and make education better at the same time....it just won't happen.  If we held teachers accountable and fired them for poor performance, the teacher's union would scream and shout. 

He wants national healthcare.  Who wants the government to decide how long people live and whether or not they should receive treatment or not?  Who wants government to tell you what procedures you can have done and when you can have them no matter how urgent your need is? 

He wants bigger government.  I don't want everything controlled by government.  That gives them too much power and they obviously are too greedy to handle such empowerment wisely for the sake of the American people. 

So what if the market is up.....whooptee do.  There are still so many things that Obama wants to do that I cannot agree with.  There are still too many crooked things going on in Washington with Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Tim Geithner, Pelosi, etc. 

For once I want a president and politicians to actually do things that are best for the American people.  Not what is best for the executives who gave them money for their campaign but the American people who work hard everyday and are struggling right now.  I'm tired of having a president in office who is being pulled by puppet strings. 

1.  I believe she meant that Glenn Beck had a heart for the soldiers.   Which he does. 

2.  There are a whole lot of us in the deep end with her.  And we like it here.   

1.  I understand your insecurity about having a president who can't think for himself as we've just been through 8 years of that.  However, this one actually has a mind of his own.  Imagine that.  Now that's what really scares you.  He thinks for himself and isn't swayed by the ridiculous temper tantrums of the party of NO.

2.  You are correct in saying that other countries didn't know what Bush would do next, he!!, WE didn't know what Bush would do next.  Kind of like the way we look at North Korea and Iran  --- we call them rogue nations, but when we do it, it's supposed to be the right thing to do?  Get real.

3.  Yes, I laugh at what you guys try to pass off as facts because the rationale for most of the statements on this board (which are usually just repeats from Fixed Noise) are absolutely comical.  Heads up...here comes Beck with a gas can!  I wonder how long it will take before they put him in a padded cell?

thought it was terrible when he did.

But Clinton's lies didn't result in a war.  Clinton created a surplus.  Bush squandered it all and created a huge deficit with his war. I'm amazed that you can't see the huge difference between the two lies.  Bush's lies are placing every single American in danger of a terror attack because he refuses to do anything about the borders.  This is here.  This is now.  Why don't you care about TODAY and the futures of your children and their children?  We're living in the most dangerous era that America has known, yet you're more concerned about the sexual practices of a former President?  I truly don't understand your way of thinking.