Older and younger white men fought for this
Posted By: country...... sm on 2009-05-27
In Reply to: Exactly when was the last time a white person s/m - what?
What's the hang up with white men? This country won its freedom because "white men" fought for it.... I'm about sick to death of listening to people say "white" as if it's a bad word, just like if someone is "rich", it's a bad word.
Funny how all those "white" people built organizations that gave lots and lots and lots of people jobs, many I may add that live very nicely in my neighborhood and community on their pensions..... blacks as well.
So, her being Latina doesn't mean squat to me, when all I have seen since more and more illegals invade this country is a welfare state. They know it's a welfare state, that's why they come, for all the freebies.
And, by the way, there are LOTS of blacks AND whites fed up with all the illegals taking their jobs, while all the time being told no one would do those jobs. So, no, I don't necessarily think she will somehow hand down a non-biased judgement of our constitution. I believe she will do just the opposite, because she has already shown she is a very racist person.
There are many people with rich experiences but they are far from qualified to be a supreme court judge.
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Right. She has even fought against
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Yep....the rights that the military have fought and died for...
over the years. You know, the might want to say thank you once nin awhile for that too...but that would take common courtesy. Too much to expect I guess. Take, take, take, but never say thank you for those who sacrificed for what is being taken...and taken...and taken FOR GRANTED.
Awesome, thanks for posting, we fought and won the Revolution......sm
against all odds, a bunch of farmers with old muskets and pitchforks in Condord and Lexington, we were rabble, but we beat the British Empire, the greatest empire of its time, not once but twice to maintain our freedom. If we can get that mindset back, then yes we can, we can free ourselved from the tyrany of elitism, suppression of the middle class, and overhaul our social and banking systems. We fought to create and maintain this country, we now have to fight to save it from becoming a sad third-world country, a wasteland. We went from being a "Beacon of Hope" to a laughingstock among nations.
You are correct - i put myself older than what I am
man there are days I feel 68. So yes I am 48 (thanks for making me feel young again) :-)
Now to figure out my generation again. :-)
What's really sad is I have older, lesbian friends who
of FEAR. They're now in their early 70's, & live in a very tolerant city, and yet they are still so secretive and closeted, it makes me sad. They don't even allow themselves to say the word 'lesbian'. They exert so much time and effort into keeping it a secret. Obviously that's left over from the time you describe. They lived in the San Francisco Bay Area during the times of all the police raids you were talking about, so that must be why the fear they feel is still so strong, even in the 21st Century.
you know, when I was younger, I
was told the only worse thing than a sore loser was a sore winner. The fact of the matter is although I have concerns about our future, we ultimately have the responsibility to go on and try our best as best we can. In four more years, I will get to vote again, God willing. So, we need to retract our nails, bury the hatchet, remember we are fellow Americans with certain rights, one of which should be mutual respect, and get on with what we have to do, and still remember we are still the best country on earth and much envied around the world, even our poor live better than those in other parts of the world and we were pretty doggone lucky to be born here when others had to struggle so hard to make this happen. Sleep well and enjoy what we take for granted, even simple things, like having a light to turn off before you go to bed. May God bless each and every one of you and your families.
Me, too! I was a little younger, though.
But I still remember what it felt like to be proud of my country and my President back then, and I remember how the country mourned President Kennedy when he was assassinated. For Caroline Kennedy to publicly endorse Barack Obama for President, saying he reminded her of her FATHER, was quite a statement on her part, since she's never done anything like that before, but it was something I immediately understood because the Obama family reminded me of the Kennedy family, as well. (I just hope the "story" doesn't end the same way as it did for the Kennedys.)
It's sad that back in the 1960s was when the USA supposedly had a worse problem with racism, yet we can see it's blatantly alive and well here in 2008.
I hope President-Elect Obama survives until Election Day. In looking at this board, though, I have my very saddest of doubts. 
Read older posts. If I'm confused, so are many others here who
know you change your moniker at will, Dutchess.
O is just a younger version of the....sm
good ol' boys club, really. Young and vital, yeah, okay. Clever, no.
If he was really clever, and had something of value to offer me, I'd be voting for him.
We should start calling Obama, O'Same.
their younger years
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First Pres younger than me
and though I love him (am definitely a kool aid drinker, I admit) he looks like he's in junior high and it will be sad to see him age. Maybe it won't be too bad. He seems to like stress.
Let older americans die without care and pay these peoples' debts.
That's the message I got from "senior citizens who would not get any better anyway." So sorry I voted for him, so very sorry!! Don't tell me I misunderstood, I listen for a living!
"Let older Americans die without care" is not what he said - it is an outright lie
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Joe Biden not much younger than McCain
Biden is only 7 years younger. Not a whole lot of difference. As for the impish grin? Take a look at Biden - he reminds me of Skeletor from Masters of the Universe. Once again another liberal not basing anything on facts, just personality issues. And if I was a pow beaten to near death every day for five years I don't think I'd be able to forget that too easily. I just had my 30 year HS reuinion and it seems like it was only a couple years ago that I was in high school. They say the body ages, but the mind always stays young. My grandmother at 82 years old said to me, how can I be in this body, seems like I was just in high school and getting married a few years ago and I remember everything vividly like it just happened. My grandfather at 92 years old could tell me everything about all the candidates even back when he was a young teenager. At least John McCain has a very sharp and clear mind, and a clear direction he wants to lead the country in, and a direction the country needs to go in. No more of the democrats getting HUGE payouts from the big company and turning around acting like they haven't received anything. Three of the top 3 people who benefited from FM/FM - #1 - Dodd, #2 Obama, #3 H. Clinton.
Yeah, and they're also all 30 something or younger...all Obama drones....
I guess you want the old white, wrinkly white guy?
Right wing horsesh*t being shoved out as "truth." Sad.
LOL! Yes, black and white =
only. Too bad it's not a black and white, good or bad world. The you're either with us or against us philosophy has not served us well in the world community and here at home your patriotism is questioned simply because you ask questions. But it's our mission to spread democracy. God help us.
sorry if I offended, but I'm white....
I'm a white person saying this.....but worked in ERs for years.....her Shaniqua statement made me say there's plenty of white trash going to ERs too....is all I meant - sorry if I offended you.
duh yourself - Barack IS 50% white... LOL
and some of us love people of color but not voting for him for other reasons,
There are people voting for him strictly because he's part black, and some people voting for hillary because she is female -
these are BAD reasons.........to vote for anybody........
what? said about biden by a white.
where do you get racism out of that?
He is both black AND white.
Not that it matters and your not the only one but people keep referring to Barack as a "black" man without acklowdeging that he is also half white (50/50). His mother was as white as they come. I don't feel we are electing a black man (or a white man). I feel we are electing a capable man.
Is this what the US needs in the White House?
??????
I think NOT.
what does black and white have to do with it?
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Nothing to do with black or white there....has to do
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Black and White
People and organizations often try to condense life into a black and white little box. It's way too gray for that.
One thing I discovered as I got older ... just because people or organizations come on strong doesn't mean they know what they are talking about or have good ideas.
I was always shy and figured the people who were forceful were such because the knew their $#it. Sooo not true. :)
What about the white people who went to war to...
abolish slavery? And many thousands died in the effort. That just get erased? Like it never happened?
In the White House, someone who has kept the
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Considering what we got in the white house, that's all
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we already have a racist in the white house
George Bush does not like black people
how racist was that? No white trash in the ERs
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black and white thinking
in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence. Beware.
Don't know how you can accuse me of only seeing black and white...
in view of all these posts. You really think calling someone a redneck and Nascar and a religious wacko is appropriate way to talk about issues?
They quote the bill of rights but ignore the one about freedom of religion...they hawk choice but you mention choice of the child and they tear the hide off you in strips...usually telling you to go back to your church, bible-thumper, etc., as if all pro-life people are grounded in religion. THat is simply NOT the truth...there are liberal pro-lifers who believe ALL life is sacred...and not from a liberal point of view, but a moral one.
And you can still post to me that to ME everything is black and white. I am perfectly willing and have been perfectly willing to debate issues. THey just do not tolerate a dissenting opinion, if you debate policies they take it as a personal affront to Obama...what was that you said about total agreement with a platform...?
No, frankly, I don't see it. But there will probably be more posts after yours high-fiving you for lecturing me.
Have a good evening.
I'm not assuming you are white. I simply
meant put yourself in the role that she was in, a minority in college. You are right though, I assumed that you weren't a minority for that scenario and I apologize. And, I didn't mention anywhere in my post about Wright, I was simply referring to her as a college student and the fact that I did not think her thesis was racist.
White guilt is right. Too many people...
feel they HAVE to say they would vote for Obama for fear of being called racist. If that's the only way he gets into the White House then it's not a true win. He certainly isn't going to get in based on his stellar political career or experience. Flowery words, promises that can't be kept, keep the poor people poor and dependent on the government, screw the middle class and help out your fat cat friends.
White guilt is "pitiful?" Help me out here.
this statement to be just the teensey-weensiest bit tinged with that racism the reds doth vigorously protest is absent in their campaign rhetoric? Am I the only one left in America that finds this deeply offensive? Flame away if you must. I can take it.
Another thank you for your service. White flag is right..
what a nation of wimps we will become under this man. He'll be hiding behind Michelle's skirt.
There are always those people out there, black and white
who just do not understand anything and never will.
White house butler guy.....you can't be serious.
He will be one of Obama's top advisors. You can't be that naive.
As to the Chicago political machine...google it. The Daleys of Chicago...crooked as a dog's hind leg comes to mind...you don't remember the current Mayor daley's dad?
Can't believe you never heard of the Chicago political machine. Obama was part of it, and he is bringing it with him to the White House. Yeah, that concerns me...and last time I looked, I have a right to be concerned.
The White House Butler guy
Ever see One Life to Live. Remember Asa Buchanan's butler, Nigel? Nigel knew more about Asa than his own family. OF COURSE, I understand what a Chief of Staff is. The position still sounds like a great big butler to me...one who sees all and knows all, exercises great discretion and is trusted by his employer.
To begin, I live in a parallel universe from you. I have no reason whatsoever to Google Chicago politial machine. I have seen the term thrown around here and there in paranoid rants and I am also acutely aware of how Chicago politics has been depicted by the right-wingers ever since the 60s...my mom being my prime source on that one (a Goldwater republican). I do not share this world view. When I think of Chicago politics, I think in terms of ideology, but that is a different story from this.
I was simply trying to get you to explain YOUR take on it and also why it is that you find so much fault ALREADY with Rahm Emanuel. He certainly will not be Obama's only advisor. As a matter of fact, Obama is bound to surround himself with many, many advisors from both sides of the aisle who represent a very WIDE variety of viewpoints, all of which he will listen to, consider, draw conclusions, formulate plans and policy initiatives and execute what he feels best. That's my thing. I was simply trying to get you to explain yours.
Maybe you should e-mail the White House and
tell them GP wants to know!
She called me racist and I am white,
husband black and mixed daughter. Go figure!
Bush is out of the White House.
This has nothing to do with Bush. My whole point of this was not to worship Bush here. My whole point was that I was blindsided by our government and I refuse to sit back and not be informed with Obama as president. I want to stay in the know so I can make my own decisions and keep tabs on things. I just think that President Obama has made A LOT of promises already and the man hasn't even been pres for a whole week yet and he has already broken some of his promises. I am going to hold this president and any future president's feet to the fire from now on. I don't care if they are dem, pub, or whatever......
They voted for him because he was half white?
that is the stupidest thing I have ever read. And you speak for the majority? Get real.
Just because they live in the White House....(sm)
doesn't mean they're dead. They have the right to entertain at their residence just like you do. Get over it. I like the idea of having a president with a social life.
parties at the White House
President Kennedy http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/The+Kennedy+White+House+Parties.htm
President Clinton http://mediamatters.org/items/200502190003
President Bush http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/13/letter_ed3__5.php
And I found many, many more hits - just too many to post!
Obama in his white house.
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I don't have a white history month, either, but I'm okay with that.
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If we did have a white history month
we would be called racists.
Exactly when was the last time a white person s/m
was lynched in this country?
BTW, Sonia Sotomayor's comments on how she, as a Latina woman, might have a different perspective than those that have been the majority for the last 100+ years: That of older white men.
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
That is not racist; she was simply implying that maybe it's time for a different viewpoint from someone who can more relate to the mixture of races that make up this country in the 21st century.
You all act like he should seclude himself in the White House and never come out --
My goodness, folks, they are entitled to some kind of life! You were not complaining when Bush spent so much time on vacation and that cost us lots of money every time... what's the big deal?
I know for us $25,000 is a lot of money, but in the big picture, that is not a drop in the bucket...
I am sure though if he could go somewhere without all those people going with him that he would be more than happy at this point to do it. I know I would. I do not begrudge him one minute of happiness with his family because the rest of the time everybody in this country is trying to tear him apart.
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