Okay....what things do you agree with Obama that...

• Obama song - way too creepy - me
  • I'm going to - have nightmares!
    • well....I stop short of calling him the.... - sam
    • No, I see it too. Unfortunately. nm - You're right
  • Only thing missing is Michael Jackson....way - creepy
  • I did not find it creepy at all - - Amanda
    • Well we all know you love your lord Obama, - see message - me
      • I had a very open mind, and Obama is not my Lord - nm - Amanda
        • Am I to assume then you are all on board for... - sam
          • I am referring to the open mind I had when I watched the video - - Amanda
            • I understand that....but where do you come down on the issues I addressed... - sam
              • I don't just ignore anything -- - Amanda
                • Okay....what things do you agree with Obama that... - sam
      • When you want to indoctrinate a population... - sam
      • I heard that the gutless wonderment of what is Obama...sm - indy
        • They took it down because - Chele
  • Complete child exploitation. This is way scary..... nm - ms
  • I saw that mentioned last night - Chele
  • I forgot to mention about the lyrics - me
    • Put them in some brown shirts and you know what - mtvoter

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have me going "WHAAAAAAAAAAT???," just like I did with George W. Bush before I realized what his scam (unjustifiable war in Iraq and others)

I remember giving him the benefit of the doubt until his chronic lying turned me against him.  But I needed at least three years to do that. 

I'm prepared to do the same thing with Obama:  Give him at least three years.  None of us is mind-readers on this board, and perhaps he is choosing not to share everything with us and the world (as it should be).

Meanwhile, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Regarding the ILLEGAL alien situation, I couldn't agree more with you.  There are laws on the books that make it pretty clear what should be done with ILLEGAL aliens.  I believe Bush ignored those laws so that the richer could pay less than poverty salaries to make the rich even richer.  But that took me a few years to figure out.  I will give the same three years to Obama before I decide to not vote for him again.

Anyway, whether we agree or disagree, I am just soooooo glad to see you back here again.  You know how to debate. 

and I only new a couple, enjoy
From the UK Telegraph:

• He collects Spider-Man and Conan the Barbarian comics
• He was known as "O'Bomber" at high school for his skill at basketball
• His name means "one who is blessed" in Swahili
• His favourite meal is wife Michelle's shrimp linguini
• He won a Grammy in 2006 for the audio version of his memoir, Dreams From My Father
• He is left-handed – the sixth post-war president to be left-handed
• He has read every Harry Potter book
• He owns a set of red boxing gloves autographed by Muhammad Ali
• He worked in a Baskin-Robbins ice cream shop as a teenager and now can't stand ice cream
• His favourite snacks are chocolate-peanut protein bars
• He ate dog meat, snake meat, and roasted grasshopper while living in Indonesia
• He can speak Spanish
• While on the campaign trail he refused to watch CNN and had sports channels on instead
• His favourite drink is black forest berry iced tea
• He promised Michelle he would quit smoking before running for president – he didn't
• He kept a pet ape called Tata while in Indonesia
• He can bench press an impressive 200lbs
• He was known as Barry until university when he asked to be addressed by his full name
• His favourite book is Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
• He visited Wokingham, Berks, in 1996 for the stag party of his half-sister's fiancé, but left when a stripper arrived
• His desk in his Senate office once belonged to Robert Kennedy
• He and Michelle made $4.2 million (£2.7 million) last year, with much coming from sales of his books
• His favourite films are Casablanca and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
• He carries a tiny Madonna and child statue and a bracelet belonging to a soldier in Iraq for good luck
• He applied to appear in a black pin-up calendar while at Harvard but was rejected by the all-female committee.
• His favourite music includes Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, Bach and The Fugees
• He took Michelle to see the Spike Lee film Do The Right Thing on their first date
• He enjoys playing Scrabble and poker
• He doesn't drink coffee and rarely drinks alcohol
• He would have liked to have been an architect if he were not a politician
• As a teenager he took drugs including marijuana and cocaine
• His daughters' ambitions are to go to Yale before becoming an actress (Malia, 10) and to sing and dance (Sasha, 7)
• He hates the youth trend for trousers which sag beneath the backside
• He repaid his student loan only four years ago after signing his book deal
• His house in Chicago has four fire places
• Daughter Malia's godmother is Jesse Jackson's daughter Santita
• He says his worst habit is constantly checking his BlackBerry
• He uses an Apple Mac laptop
• He drives a Ford Escape Hybrid, having ditched his gas-guzzling Chrysler 300
• He wears $1,500 (£952) Hart Schaffner Marx suits
• He owns four identical pairs of black size 11 shoes
• He has his hair cut once a week by his Chicago barber, Zariff, who charges $21 (£13)
• His favourite fictional television programmes are Mash and The Wire
• He was given the code name "Renegade" by his Secret Service handlers
• He was nicknamed "Bar" by his late grandmother
• He plans to install a basketball court in the White House grounds
• His favourite artist is Pablo Picasso
• His speciality as a cook is chilli
• He has said many of his friends in Indonesia were "street urchins"
• He keeps on his desk a carving of a wooden hand holding an egg, a Kenyan symbol of the fragility of life
• His late father was a senior economist for the Kenyan government

I think they nipped it in the bud this early so they could hold a state senate hearing to see if they can put the senate seat up for a vote instead of allowing him to make that decision.

Also, in the transcripts there was a part where the Gov said that Obama, that &*(@#$!, was not working with him.

of fresh air and I love that he inspires people. However, I would encourage all Democrats, Independents, et al, to consider Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico. On the Democratic side, he has by far the best resume. He is a superior negotiator, served as head of the Department of Energy, sat at the UN, was an ambassador. Here is a link to his web site. It is quite lengthy, but you can scan over it and just look at the positions he has held and the things he has done.

http://www.governor.state.nm.us/governor.php

This is the message I said I would post here.

In reply to the Clinton’s had nothing to do with the last 8 years.  This is absolutely correct, but the Clinton administration was just as bad before that.  The Clinton years were the worst of my adult life (and my friends and family who are staunch democrats).  So we’ve actually had 16 years of garbage for Presidents (20 if you consider Bush Sr.).  Government grew and paychecks shrunk.  Promises broken, tax increases (with the Clinton administration).  The Clintons did nothing for the middle income people.  Their “1% wealthiest” friends continued to receive more benefits.  Our families friends were losing their houses and had to go back to living with their parents as they could no longer afford to live anymore.  I think a lot of people forget the following:

Somalia – another unnecessary war

Kosovo – another unnecessary war

Elian Gonzales

Receiving money funded from china (treasonous tradeoffs I think it was called) for his re-election

Bill & Hillary stating they never heard of people (criminals who gave them money) when indeed they have pictures.

Hillary’s financial and other records sealed so nobody would find out the stuff she did (why?)

Monica Lewinski

Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Wiley, Juanitta Broderick, etc, etc,

Vince Foster (untimely passing)

Ron Brown (untimely passing)

Hillary pulls Bill off of D. Morris as Bill is getting ready to punch him in the face yelling at him “Bill, think about what your doing”.  Then walked around telling D. not to say anything to anyone.

Numerous times secret service had to pull Hillary of Bill

Hillary’s foul language

Hillary’s “female” relationships

Bill’s “female” relationships

Lying under oath

Impeached

Decimating our military within two weeks of being elected

Whitewater

Ban lifted on gays in the military

They destroyed and stole white house furniture and artifacts on their way out.  Urinated on carpets, walls, etc.  It was a real mess to clean up.

And those are only a few of the highlights of the Clinton administration.  She wants to take credit for anything good that happened, then she better take credit for the bad too.  Especially when she was running the show while Billy was off with his girlfriends.

They are both a couple of criminals and should have gone to jail for half the stuff they did.  So while the last eight years have been bad, the previous eight were just as bad. - And all my MIL can say to me is.... "oh but he's so good looking".

It would embolden our enemies and help to recruit more terrorists.  I thought Obama, once again, listened to both sides and then made his decision.  If only Bush could have done that, instead of only hiring aides that would reflect HIS views and discarding those who didn't, including some of those "generals on the ground" that Bush claimed to honor.

I don't understand the posts below about Obama showing the photos.  Last I heard, the complete opposite was true.  Did something change, or are these comments just another attempt to completely ignore the truth in order to continue their assault on Obama, regardless of whether it's true or not?

McCain doesn't have any solutions except trying to get Palin to tear down Obama with her big mouth.

1:  His approval rating as I write this has now decreased to 29%.  (However, by the time you read this, it may be even lower yet.  He is most definitely *a work in progress,* and the number of Americans who are waking up and smelling the proverbial coffee is increasing at a rapid rate.

2.  The fact that the government has been tracking phone calls of hundreds of millions of Americans may be nothing more than a political *parking ticket* compared to what we might discover next week.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/12/19380/1332

NSA Whistleblower: There's More, People Are Going To Be Shocked

by georgia10

Fri May 12, 2006 at 04:38:00 PM PDT

From the subscription-only Congress Daily, Chris Strohm reports that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice will make some on bombshell revelations on Capitol Hill next week:

A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. Russell Tice, who worked on what are known as special access programs, has wanted to meet in a closed session with members of Congress and their staff since President Bush announced in December that he had secretly authorized the NSA to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens without a court order.  In an interview late Thursday, Tice said the Senate Armed Services Committee finally asked him to meet next week in a secure facility on Capitol Hill.

Tice was fired from the NSA last May. He said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of Hayden, who has been nominated to become director of the CIA. Tice said one of his co-workers personally informed Hayden that illegal and unconstitutional activity was occurring. [...] I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It's pretty hard to believe, Tice said. I hope that they¹ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn't exist right now. [...]

Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance Program that Bush  acknowledged in December and from news accounts this week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of millions of Americans. It's an angle that you haven't heard about yet, he said.

1. My eyes watching Scooter's conviction..  2.  Valerie Plame, the person who knows her situation best.  3. Patrick Fitzgerald.  Now there's a guy with a high IQ that was not manufactured by professional fact fixers.

Can someone explain what those things are outside the RNC.  I understand wanting to protest and you hold a sign up showing your viewpoint and maybe you yell out something you believe in, but I can't understant what those things are that are wearing masks, being dragged away, having to be hosed down by the police.

What a nonsense and insane world they must live in.  I'm all for freedom speech, but this is beyond my understanding. 

Also - don't they have jobs?  Do their employers allow them to take time off work to go do this and get arrested?  I want that job.  HA HA