Obama supporters worried, sorry

• A different viewpoint from me - Kaydie
  • thanks, Kaydie and Dad. Blessed are - true blue
  • I think your dad is a wise man, thanks....sm - abc
  • You dad sounds like a good man... - and wise, too. sm
  • Sorry, but I cannot adapt to - Hitler, Marxist style government.
    • Thjis proves exactly Kaydie's father's philosophy...nm - abc
      • Sorry, I want to correct my post...sm - abc
    • Oh for heaven's SAKE - deenibeeni
      • get over it deeni - nm
        • You're right! - deenibeeni
      • They are clueless on purpose ... - me
      • Hello. - Get a clue. Marxist government.
        • I'm not surprised - deenibeeni
          • Deeni, please don't base all on one - Donna
            • Thank you... - deenibeeni
          • I am not the only one concerned - about our United States.
            • what are you talking about?...sm - abc
              • The new change - not what I opted for.
                • There will always be winners and losers.........nm - abc
                  • Unfortunately, the people may end up being the LOSERS!!! - nm
                    • This possibility exists, but also as McCain as president...sm - abc
              • I felt the same way at first.... - Old part-timer
                • 6.5% is a pretty strong margin for "such a poor choice" - The mandate is clear.
                  • Yes, this is to what is boils all down...sm - abc
                • McCain at the end distanced himself from Bush..... - abc
                  • I'm not talking about distancing... - Old part-timer
                    • by electoral votes - it is most definitely a landslide! - Amanda
    • I understand - see message - Kaydie
      • O was elected the future president, so....sm - abc
      • A liffle feedback on - your dad's advice....sm
      • Kaydie, I totally agree with youir Dad. s/m - pen
        • great post by 'pen', ..tolerant and openminded, thanks!...nm - abc
      • Obama supporters worried, sorry - but they are in a trance. nm
        • had McCain been elected, then you would be in a trance...nm - abc
          • No TRANCE here, many of us voted for McCain as the lesser of two evils. - nm
          • Sorry, I do not agree to a Hitler style - government. nm
    • Me either -and anyone who bothered to research - Obama would never elect this dangerous man.nm
      • Yeah he's dangerous all right... - me
        • SOMEONE RESEARCHED IT. - Our new United States. Thanks a lot.
          • LOL! - Marmann
            • Sorry, I did not see any mention - about Bush in the article.
              • That's because it conveniently disappeared. - Marmann
                • Bill was sponsored by Lugar and our new VP, Biden - Link
                  • And endorsed by Bush, which I find scary. - Marmann
            • Civilian National Security Force... - sm
              • Hope it will not turn - into a civil war.
      • No, They are willing to risk it to "save the economy" - or whatever. Character matters to SOME.nm
        • Speaking of character... - Marmann
          • I would not call that a lack of character... - sm

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I wonder who is transcribing the medical notes of Senators Clinton and Obama.

I'm only saying this because a few years ago, I worked for a company that (I believe) didn't offshore, and on one of my jobs, the patient had the very same name as a prominent Washington politician who was considering running for President.

I kind of giggled and thought the patient must get teased a lot for having the same name.  I realized that, as lawmakers, certainly their medical information would be very secure.  I stopped giggling when I got to the "Social History" where the patient's occupation was revealed, and I realized that the patient was indeed that politician.

Fortunately, that politician's note was transcribed by an American transcriptionist, but it seemed to be by the luck of the draw, rather than by rule.

After 9/11, I can't believe this country is still so careless. 

being lost, then why hasn't he enforced E-Verify and stop letting illegals take American jobs?  Why hasn't he enforced closing the borders and deporting all the illegals locked up in our prisons right now, the ones I feed, clothe, and shelter while they sit in gangs and run the prisons.  Why hasn't he stopped all outsiders from entering this country to work and take ANY American jobs, even on a work visa?   Why isn't E-Verify being enforced?  He doesn't seem to worried about all the real issues, which is allowing illegals and foreigners on work visas to come and take the jobs.    Strange, no democrat is talking about that.  NO ONE is talking about that.   There is currently a bill on the Senate floor that will allow 300,000 illegals to take construction jobs in OUR country.....you know what bill that is?  The stimulus package..    funny how no one is talking about what few jobs will be developed will be given to illegals.  There will be absolutely no enforcement that will see that ONLY Americans get those jobs.

How come no O lovers are concerned about that?

What do you say we all switch and vote a dirty old maverick into the White House?

Sorry, just felt the urge to be an @$$. 

I don't normally post on this board, I stay over on the MT boards, but I have one thing to say from my heart:  Please remember that you reap what you sow.  All of the years of the Bush-bashing from the left...it was always "okay" to do that because Bush is an "imbecile" or whatever other hateful names he was called.  You didn't agree with his policies, etc.  So let's bash him.  Forget that he is a human being with people who love him.  I believe he did the best he could with what he had to work with in terms of faulty intelligence given to him and the unimaginable stress of being the Leader of the Free World. 

Well, now the tables have turned.  I, personally, do not intend to bash Obama until he does/does not do something I disagree with, but when the time comes that some people might have the gall to disagree with something Obama does and refer to him in a negative way by calling him names or otherwise, please remember how it was *okay* for the left to do it to Bush.  Just remember that.  The time will come when the hateful negativity comes back on you with a vengeance. 

Thanks for listening. 

While you guys are here on this page engaging it "silly season semantics", we Obama supporters are working our plan to ensure that we get this wonderful man of the people in office.  Has Senator McCain given his supporters any ideas on what they can do to try to help put him in office?  Most of the 90,000+ people at the Democratic convention are right now working the plan (not to mention the millions of us who watched from home!)  You guys need to wake up and give your support to someone who will work for you rather than against you in Washington. 

The only thing wrong with being wrong is stubbornly clinging to your wrongness.  You probably voted for our current president 4 and 8 years ago.  The deplorable condition that our nation has fallen into over the course of the last 8 years makes me know I must do everything possible to avoid 4 more.  I, and millions like me, are so happy that Senator Obama chose to use his awesome intelligence, skills and experience of working with people to help us help ourselves.  We are an unstoppable force.  Better get on board, folks. 

and bar owners really do not care about the danger the city could be in because of the legislation passed allowing bars to stay open 24/7 for 4 days.  I would think that safety would be a concern, but you just proved me wrong. 

While I can see the controversy about when life begins when we are talking about the very early stages of development, I have this question for anyone who has ever had a child....or been one.  Generally when a mother is about 20 weeks pregnant, give or take a couple of weeks, she starts to feel the baby moving around inside her body. The baby moves more and more as the weeks go by.  Toward 30 weeks or so, you can actually feel the baby changing positions to get more comfortable, moving around.  So you are saying that baby I felt moving in my body wasn't alive yet? 

By MEG KINNARD | Associated Press Writer
9:04 PM EST, November 13, 2008
 
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) _ A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.

But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers — and voters — should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.

According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County — traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas — went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.

"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."

Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.

Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said she had not heard of other churches taking this position in reaction to Obama's win. A Boston-based group that supports Catholic Democrats questioned the move, saying it was too extreme.

"Father Newman is off base," said Steve Krueger, national director of Catholic Democrats. "He is acting beyond the authority of a parish priest to say what he did. ... Unfortunately, he is doing so in a manner that will be of great cost to those parishioners who did vote for Sens. Obama and Biden. There will be a spiritual cost to them for his words."

A man who has attended St. Mary's for 18 years said he welcomed Newman's message and anticipated it would inspire further discussion at the church.

"I don't understand anyone who would call themselves a Christian, let alone a Catholic, and could vote for someone who's a pro-abortion candidate," said Ted Kelly, 64, who volunteers his time as lector for the church. "You're talking about the murder of innocent beings."

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On the Net:

St. Mary's Catholic Church: http://www.stmarysgvl.org/

what all they put into this bailout bill?  I'm half scared to know what all kind of crap they put in there to entice some of these politicians to vote for it.  What was in it for them that they finally said "yea" to?

When Dodd gave a speech about the bill last night, I wanted to throw something at the TV.  He was all praising the people who are to blame for this and saying that they were such great help during these proceedings.  He is lucky I couldn't reach through the TV and choke him.

If necessary we will heat our home totally with fireplaces.  Plenty of wood and a good outdoor kitchen of Dutch ovens so we can feast without a speck of energy.  Might not like it too much but we could survive with kerosene lamps for light of which we have a number.  No internet but oh well......

Has anyone thought that just eating may be a problem?  Someone mentioned $10 loaf of bread.  We are among the fortunate who live on a farm.  We have farm animals and an abundance of wildlife.  We know how to raise a garden and how to roam over the hills and gather wild food that is etable.  If we enter the next GREAT DEPRESSION, we'll be fine....provided we can keep those who don't have a clue of how to survive from stealing from us.  Might be a good time to read up on the Foxfire series of books instead of spending so much time squabbling about who will be the best (WORST) president.

 Am worried about Roe v Wade, but not about Rove. He is not worry-worthy - way too much effort. I AM concerned that nothing will happen to any of them that are involved in Plamegate unless it is some third-string low-on-the-totem-pole flunkie who will be completely blindsided when he gets blamed/fired/arrested. This shadow administration is far more evolved than the Nixon guys. I predict nothing will happen to them but what is worse, we have been lied to so often for the last 4+ years that most of us  won't even care. They are going to do what they are going to do...the end.  Here in Florida we voted last election for smaller class sizes and not to build a bullet-train between Tampa and Orlando. Jeb just changed both of those things. We are building the train set up and class sizes stay the same. I wonder why we vote on these amendments at all. What difference does it make? And so it is with D.C. It has not mattered for so long what a great number of us have felt about Iraq and all the lies surrounding it. They just do what they want. And before anyone says "we elected him" as a plausible argument, 51% is not a mandate. One half of this country is on the other side. Our country does not deserve the autocratic theocratic government that has been forced upon us.  When the shoe is inevitably on the other foot I suspect you won't like it either.