Obama is a wonderful man and people know the truth when they hear it nm
Posted By: Mrs. M on 2008-10-24
In Reply to: Obama, your new president - shelly
People know the truth when they hear it.
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Isn't it wonderful that people are happy,
finally getting together for one purpose?!! Obama and Michelle are spending the day helping to paint walls in a boys' home. Imagine that? He is definitely a change from the old. It is exciting to have a president so on-hands. BTW, I just flipped through a few channels, there are plenty of other programs on the boob tube, just FYI.
You just don't want to hear the truth
Facts is what we get from FOX News. Unlike the other stations which only give you fluff and lies.
Why do you call it cut down when all they want is to hear the truth
I don't get it. Whenever the truth is trying to be had if it goes against the crats it is called a "cut down" or mean spirited. All we want is the truth and Fox news is the only place I'm getting to hear the actual news story. Shepard Smith and others report news from all over the world. I stopped watching MNSBC a long time ago because if something favored poorly to the crats they wouldn't report it. I am surprised CNN came out with this but maybe that's because the Clinton News Network is mad that Obama's administration is giving Hillary Clinton a bad deal and making her position less important than it should be.
All I know is I want to hear the truth. I get that from Fox news, hence I watch Fox news and sometimes a little bit of CNN, but forget MSNBC. They are the worst at reporting news - only their hate-filled spew.
BTW - I was watching O'Reilly last night and he had a guest on that said he was making fun of Helen Thomas and the way she looks. Bill O'Reilly had made a comment that Helen Thomas' voice sound like the Wicked Witch of the West (and it actually does) but he never said anything about her appearance, but this guest kept saying O'Reilly was making fun of Helen Thomas' appearance (which he wasn't because I heard the comment he made). However, when O'Reilly asked her where she was when the liberal media was trashing Palin and Saturday Night Live was making fun of the way Palin dresses and talks where was she and her group. This lady kept coming back with the standard "I believe all woman have the right to run in politics, blah, blah, blah". She never answered O'Reilly's questions because she couldn't. They didn't come to Gov. Pailins defense when she was being trashed and made fun of but they attack O'Reilly because he made fun of a voice and now they are lying about what he said. He called it like it is - they are hypocrits.
Wanting to know the truth is not a "cut down". Right now the only truth I'm getting is from the news stories on FOX NEWS.
A simple "I refuse to hear the truth" would do.
What Conyers is doing is playing by the rules. This is a HJC hearing, not a congressional hearing. There have been a number of ridiculous restrictions on what they can or cannot say imposed on this process. For example, they are not allowed to utter the word "impeachment" and Bush's name in the same sentence. Absurd. In spite of all the obstacles, he opened the hearings and has vowed to see it through and to bring the truth into the public discourse once the investigation is concluded. He is quite aware of the fact that he is putting his reputation as a senior member of Congress on the line, so it would make sense that what goes on there is compelling. He is doing nothing to distract or circle around THE ISSUES. He is moving the process along. He is chairing the committee. All the details of the restrictions, who put them there and why, Conyer's position, etctera, can be found in the numerous links that have been provided and is well summarized in DK's interview.
The difference between him and you? Are you serious? He is familiar with every single player, position, stance, viewpoint, piece of evidence and rebuttal. He is a fact checker. He is not considering this evidence on the basis of hearsay. He is evaluating the integrity of the proof as it is presented. You, on the other hand, say you know all you need to know because you have "heard it from other democrats." In other words, you are not willing to even listen to the prosecution case or its evidence as it is presented directly from the source. Instead you talk all around what is really taking place inside those chambers. You are still doing it, trying to twist this into something it most definitely is not. Here's the deal. When you can't win on the issues, out comes the smear and smut.
No one said anything about your having made anything up about Niger. No matter how hard you try, you cannot make this about that one single subject. There are literally scores of talking points and hundreds of pieces of evidence to sift through. You are not the least bit interested in any evidence. If you were, you would watch the interview and post you rebuttals. You're not doing that. You are obsfuscating. It's what you do. What possible difference could it make in terms of valid claims and conclusive evidence whether this process occurs in formal or informal impeachment hearings? Truth is truth. Proof is proof.
You are not interested in hearing from all the witnesses or seeing all the proof. Exactly the opposite. You want to see no witnesses and no proof, unless of course it backs your own contentions. Stop trying to imply that the process is rigged. In the post 9/11 politics of fear world, the republicans would classify the White House address, if they could get away with it. Preponderance of the evidence usually is all that is required to achieve majority vote. If that evidence is incomplete, you have the republicans to thank for that. Do you really think that all that info held in secret is vital to national security? The only thing it is vital to is covering the neoCONS behinds.
You doest protest too much. More obstacles. Be honest. This is not about you want this and you want that. It's what you DON'T want that is plain to see. You don't want to face the reality that they just might be onto something. Another pot shot at Clinton. You really think that lying about an affair is a more serious impeachable offense than misleading an entire nation on the reasons for going to war? One thing is for sure here. As long as you continue to refuse to view the process as it is happening, instead of what you speculate about what may or may not be going on, you really do not have any way to justify anything you are saying about it. You say you have heard what DK has said. Okay. Did you watch the interview? What was in it? You must have skipped over the stuff about the live blogging from inside the chambers. The information is available for those who are interested. Go to the links. It's all in there….including information on how to follow it on a day-to-day basis.
Since the rest of this post has disintegrated into non-stop personal attack, I will not waste my time with it. Clearly, you will not engage yourself in any direct, honest, informed dialogue on this subject. This is still about your comfort zone. This just goes to show how extremely intolerant you are whenever anybody tries to challenge your ideas and how terrified you really are with what might be coming out of those chambers.
Bush worshippers don't want to hear the truth repeated
They just want us to forget what a mockery and mess that buffoon made of our country.
Oh, but watch out for Obama - that Democrat might just FIX everything and then the Pubs will have no one to point fingers at.
What a joke that anyone thinks they can defend that jerk!
I hear that. I think a lot of people will be doing that...
bailout or no bailout.
People are always on hear
b!+ch!ing about how all our jobs are being outsourced to countries who work for itty bitty wages. Is that how the rich business owners are taking care of us? Okay, which is it?
This are all excuses, why cannot people just say the TRUTH?,,nm
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Yes, God forbid we expose people to the TRUTH about Bush.
I did not hear Obama say this
from his mouth to my ears. First of all the bill would have to get to him before he could sign it I believe. Secondly I do believe the Cardinals and Bishops ought to be about sweeping their own porch.
I would like to hear how Obama will make it better.
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I don't hear anyone at an Obama rally saying ...sm
John McCain is a traitor and that he should be killed. This is very scary to most Americans that hear it, very radical to wish a presidential candidate dead! Neither one blinked an eye when supporters shouted these things out.
Obama's supporters only hear what they want
They don't want to hear the truth. I hope you enjoy working even harder than you do now only to give the government more money only to hand it over to people who do not work for it.
Did you bother to hear ANY of Obama's little
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Much like the truth regarding Obama, eh?
Well, I dont want to hear Obama and all the "uhhhs'
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Did you hear the real reason why Obama
not our country, but for his kids to have much more than he had. He wanted his kids and ours to have a better life. Sure, nothing wrong with that, but it was not for you or me, economy, "where is my check in the mail?", keeping our country safe, and among many other things.
Obama's voice "irks" me. Every time I hear him, I
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rhetoric rhetoric - just tell people what they want to hear, it worked in 2000 and 2004 right?
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Finally an article on the truth of Obama's big tax cuts and plans...sm
It's been hard to find this story and the facts lately, and I'm glad you posted this.
It really sounds like Obama is trying to "buy" the votes of all the people in America in the lower income bracket.
Very sneaky and scary, as most people believe him.
The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
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I know SOUR GRAPES squish when I hear it! hahaha!!!!! GLOATING !!! I'm gloating about Obama
hahaha, jealous
Hear, hear! He is an exceptional person for an ....sm
exceptionable time. They say that God is watching us from a distance and I believe that is true. I think that Obama has a good pure heart, extraordinary intelligence, does truly want to improve our lives, and my prayers are with him. How about that he has Bobby Kennedy's desk (my hero).
Liberal truth vs. Conservative truth.
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How about the people who just don't want Obama
because they see him for what he is...not trustworthy, deceitful, secretive.
They don't care for McCain and now have no hopes for Obama. Why do you make everything about McCain when someone doesn't want Obama in office? Your assumptions are quite ignorant.
Exactly! Why cant people see through Obama?
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People go to see Obama
hoping to touch the hem of his garment and be healed.
Obama. He knows the American people
want to see a debate between the two people who are running for president, one of whom will inheret a BIG MESS. McCain hasn't worried about voting for anything in a looonnnngggg time. This is all a ploy, and he GOTCHA! Teehee.
Obama fooling people
I agree with you. He has not fooled me for 1 minute or my family or friends in our Bible Chapel or the elders in our chapel. Thank God that McCain has good principles against abortion and against gay marriage.
The will of the people voted Obama in
and the will of the people voted down gay marriage. There is no gray area.
yes, and many people who voted for Obama can think for themselves too
God did not elect Obama. The people did.
Some the people who voted for O did it because of his promises. Three-quarters of the people voted for him because of his color. That's not fabricated, it's the truth.
I, for one, did not vote for him and it was not because of his color. I couldn't care less what color he is. If I did, I'd start posting about how he is half white. That's not the point. I don't know why some people on this board spout racisim just because someone did not vote for him.
I didn't vote for him because of his promises. Like all politicians, he made promises that are impossible to keep. He won the election because most of the voters thought he was sincere and would turn this country around in a heartbeat. I believe there are a lot of voters who will be the first to gripe when it doesn't happen. But then, again, that's just my opinion. I am willing to give him a chance but I surely don't like being called a racist just because I did not vote for him.
People have to start looking at RECORDS of the people they are voting for; i.e., voting records, any bills they sponsor and why, etc., etc., not listening to the spiel. I learned that quite a few years ago and I will not vote for someone who blind sides the public with glorious ideas without a thought as to what could happen down the road.
A president and/or any respresentative of the people has to hold the constiuents thoughts in mind when they are voting. I haven't seen that happen since before Carter. People have to GET INVOLVED in their government by writing to their reps. Otherwise, the reps think everything is honkey-dorey. I, myself, write to my reps a lot. Sometimes I get a canned reply, sometimes I get a "I will be looking into this" type letter.
Well, I see I just tried to give a lecture, so I'll get off my soap box for now....but remember this: Government is only as good as the people. Keep quiet and they will keep doing the same old, same old. Understand what I'm saying?
Lots of people have, but Obama
and he may be smart, but no common sense.
What is creepy is people following in lockstep behind Obama...
and not questioning anything about him. HIs associations, his Marxist leanings...none of that seems to matter to any of you. And THAT to ME is creepy.
I have posted several good things about McCain. I am 100% on board with a candidate who says he will appoint Democrats and Independents to his cabinet and try to get Washington working together again and remembering that they work for US, the people, not to promote their careers and line their pockets. You bet I am 100% on board for that. That is all that will fix that stagnation in washington. McCain has tried to do that his entire career. Palin tried to do it in Alaska. I am 100% on board for cutting pork spending, so is he. I am 100% on board for looking at all the entitlement programs and killing the ones that are not working. I am on board for keeping corporate America healthy because they provide 80% of the jobs in this country. I don't have anything against anyone who has worked their way up, had a good idea and it grew into millions (Bill Gates, Windows for instance). I don't think Bill Gates owes me a dime of what he worked so hard to build. But he is also a major philantropist and supports many worthy causes. The government does not need to extract money from him and redistribute it to people who do not pay taxes in the first place, which encourages them to stay where they are in the lowest economic class. If he really cared about those people he would be figuring out ways to elevate them from that class instead of putting his foot on their neck to keep them there. All socialism ends up doing is killing free enterprise and eventually the government controls everything, the middle class disappears forever, and all the money is at the top..in the government, who doles it out to the people like they are children. Cuba has not done so well under socialism. Venezuela has not done so well under socialism. But you are ready to put a man into office who wants that same thing for THIS country. To me, THAT is creepy.
Again with the Bush doctrine. You really need to read up on that. Even Democrat pundits are honest enough to say that was an unfair question.
As to his glasses...if you watched him interview other people...he does not do that. And he does not pull the chairs so close knees touch. That is all orchestrated. And we did not see the whole interview. I would like to see what is on the cutting room floor.
One thing I have to say...when they walked out by the lake, and he was more like Charlie Gibson, a person, talking to Sarah Palin, a person...actually smiling at her...yep, tho he would never admit it...I think Charlie was impressed by her too. lol.
I don't hate Barack Obama. That is ridiculous. You have to know someone to hate them. I think he is probably a nice person; he certainly has a beautiful family. That does not make him ready to be President. I just don't agree with what he wants to do to this country. I think his ideas are wrong for this country. He leans for far left...that yes, it's creepy.
We should all vote according to what we believe is right for the country. Another thing John McCain said that I truly appreciate...Country First. He and palin are the only ones doing so, in my estimation.
There is a smart man. Obama would love people to
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Obama supporters are the most clueless people
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What if Obama didn't hate people like me? (sm)
I like Obama as a speaker, I think Obama is very intelligent and educated. I think Obama is very attractive. I like a lot of the ideas he has. I just cannot skirt around the issue of those he has associated with and the church he attended for 20 YEARS! I find it hard to believe he is not racist against me, a plain old white citizen. I think it doesn't matter that I have friends of all races, and that I love someone of another race. All that matters to his minister is that I am white and that makes him hate me, and if Obama didn't also hate me, and those like me, then why did he continue to attend that church and listen to the acid spewing from his minister's mouth for 20 years?  While I think it is horrible that our ancestors forced African's into slavery and treated them horribly, I didn't do it! I would never do it! I love everyone! Why do I have to be a victim of prejudice now, just because I am white? Why can't prejudice not exist either way?
Right!!! People are so nasty to Palin, yet Obama
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Obama is a fraud and a radical, but the people will
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People thought Bush was so bad, under Obama,
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Wonderful
Wow! We agree! Wonderful. :O)
Thank you for such a wonderful
contribution to this board.
Have a pleasant day. 
Wonderful? For who? Certainly not
the American people.
Slick and glib speaker. Yes.
Too good to be true? Yes.
Loving father and husband? Yes.
Cool as a cucumber? Yes.
Good for our country? NO. Unless you want to live like the Cuban and Russian people.
WONDERFUL????
I support abortion rights 100%. Do I think it is wonderful, no, but I think it is a personal choice. Strange choice of words you used...
thank you for that wonderful
youtube of our pledge of allegiance where it says, just like I said above, one NATION under God. Not one America as you so incorrectly typed above. Thanks for proving me right though. Kudos!
This is wonderful.
Finally, some good news on the domestic jobs front. Thanks for posting.
people are starting to pay attention. Obama's lead
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Obama is the choice of the educated and smartest people nm
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OBAMA WON, the American people have spoken loudly
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People sucking lemons hate Obama.
Guess what...reality has already hit. Barack Obama was elected President of the United States, and he has already begun to undo some of the damage done by Georgie Porgie.
I hear there is a sale on lemons and sour grapes that you might be interested in!
Wonderful news
So glad your husband is home. I know you must be thrilled. My brother-in-law came home right before Christmas to 4 kiddos and my sister who missed him terribly. He was in Kuwait years ago and just finished his second tour in Iraq. I think he is retiring soon.
However, he doesn't support the war and now votes (mostly) democrat. I think he and my sis are fighting beween Obama and Hillary :-)
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