Obama has said several times that he was a Christian...
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: The only time I've heard Obama - the big bad athiest
but of course, that always came on the heels of being accused of being Muslim. He plays the religion card when it suits him.
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Okay. On his worst day, Obama is 10 times the
And his best days are 'way, 'way BEHIND him.
And Obama said McCain was right.... nine times....nm
Oh please, Obama Christian?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn-P3yAaAqI
Obama mocks the Bible. No christian would mock Sermon on the Mount.
Wolf in sheep's clothing. BEWARE, VERY DISTURBING. Take it with a grain of salt. Talks about the future mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0&feature=related
Obama about to make a bad situation 10 times
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Obama professes to be a Christian and...
Joe Biden is a practicing catholic...McCain goes to a Baptist Church and Palin an interdenominational one...so no matter who is elected, there is going to be religion in the White House. I would venture a guess that the majority of congress also religious...Pelosi is a practicing Catholic, all the Kennedys are Catholics...
Obama professes to be Christian...
would not classify him as meek.
I do not understand this out of control hatred for someone just because she does not share your view of the world. Where does that come from?
Geez. People in Alaska afraid of her because people lost their jobs? How is she going to track people down from an anonymous poll and fire them? That makes absolutely no sense...and since all of Alaska does not work for the state, that would be difficult at best.
Sigh.
Shame on you. I am a Christian for Obama and...sm
would be happy to have a button or a bumper sticker saying so! What is your problem? The republicans mus think that only non Christians are for Obama. That is VERY far from the truth. McCain could put out a bumper sticker that said space aliens for McCain and you would think that is fine.
Obama has repeatedly described himself as a Christian.
I'm going to take him at his word, not that it matters much to me which religion he practices. What matters to me is his character, and I'd put that way above some that I've witnessed on this board.
America is NOT "only" a Christian nation any longer. America promises freedom of religion for EVERYONE, not just Christians.
Do YOU stone your children for straying?
How about slavery? (My guess is you're in favor of that one.)
He was just pointing out that sometimes literal translations of the Bible aren't applicable. In other words, he made sense. 
And Obama chose to be Christian,
is he's not trying to push his religion down everyone else's unwilling throats.
You want to be in everyone's bedrooms, whether it's for gay marriage, birth control, abortion, etc.
You want everyone to walk in lock step with you on social issues, and this is exactly why the Republicans are in the toilet. Americans want to choose their own paths and not have these things forced upon us by a group that claims that only THEY hold the exclusive keys to heaven.
By the way, did you know that Muslims believe that Jesus was a messenger from God (via virginal conception) who had been sent to guide the children of Israel??
I think that Obama sees himself as Christian, but
the Muslins see him as Muslim because his father is Muslim.
If O stays silent, believe me, it is not because he takes sides, it is because now it is better to be cautious than confrontational.
If O is a powerless puppet why do you then constantly put him down and criticize him?
Since Kennedy all president are puppets pulled by very elite people, true. And these elite people picked Obama as winner soon after he declared himself a candidate, because he is so charismatic, similar to Kennedy (I heard this also in this video 'The Obama Deception'), true.
Amd yes, the Iranian people are screwed, also true.
But believe me, Obama, puppet or no puppet, till now proved himself to be a very good diplomat.
I am much more interested in the foreign politics than in the domestic stuff, that's boring.
L.A. Times Suppresses Damaging Obama Videotape
How can y'all literally give this man a free pass? Even the liberal Linda Bloodworth Thomason (she & husband are good friends of the Clintons) shunned NBC for being so horrible to Gov. Palin. This was in Hollywood, and those who were there didn't disagree with her.
L.A. Times Suppresses Damaging Obama Videotape
Breaking from Newsmax.com
Ruddy: Very Existence of GOP at Stake in This Election
Proof: Palin Hit By Blizzard of Negative Headlines
Go to newsmax.com if you have the guts.
Fine, Obama is Christian -my question is
Why did he stay with a church for 20 years that spewed hatred for the USA and was racist as well? Rev. Wright..... you have seen the tapes? When asked, Obama denies he witnessed the Rev. speaking this way..and if he had, he would have left the church before. Do you actually believe that? I mean, come on! The two of them were very close, admittedly so. Sometimes, you are judged by the company you keep and the friends that surround you. You may not think that is fair, but I have a right to feel this way.... and I do! I myself have NEVER claimed Obama is a Muslim. I don't go with rumors, but I can't ignore what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears.
Obama's group has tried to shut Stanley Kurtz up several times...
He was on WGN radio in August when Obama supporters were told to call in and voice their displeasure about Mr. Kurtz and his appearance. Mr. Kurtz has done extensive research regarding the Obama/Ayers/Wright association. The WGN host offered to have someone from the Obama campaign on to counterpoint Mr. Kurtz but they declined. You would think they would like to refute something they vehemently deny.
Obama is a CHRISTIAN. He supports equal rights...sm
for all people including gay people. I think that the radical Christian right are the gay haters.
I have lots of Christian friends who are democrats and support Obama. nm
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Just participating in a Christian church does not make you a Christian (sm)
Everyone who goes to a Christian church is not automatically a Christian. Only God knows if you truly are or not. He could easily still have Muslim values and attend a Christian church. Does he? I have NO IDEA. I really don't know. What I DO KNOW is that the Christian church he attended did not teach what God wants to be taught. I know that from the Bible because we are not supposed to preach hate or damnation, yet that is what his minister preached, LOUDLY.
.Sure, O is Christian. His mother was Christian
his father Muslim. In Indonesia, where O spent 4 years, age 7 to 11, he attended a catholic school and received outside the school Islamic teachings.
When he was 12 his mother took him back to the US into the care of her mother and the rest is history......
LA times
Everyone knows the L.A. Times is a liberal rag.
How many times?
Really is irrelevant. This woman is being used as a shill for a Marxist/Leninist organization called ANSWER, which has anything but America's interests at heart.
100 times????????
Okay, so when caught lying just spin an even bigger lie.
This is really getting out of hand on this board. All you CONS do is lie. This is crazy.
Okay, so please cite the 100 times I have accused someone of lying. This is your chance to squash us libs once and for all. I am waiting.
Maybe 300 times? nm
How many times have you said ANYthing?
How many times have you used that
just curious
How many times do I have to say this? sm
NO ONE, NOT ANYONE, EVEN A MOTHER OR A FATHER, can renounce a child's American citizenship, ONLY the child at the age of majority, 21, can choose to revoke it. PERIOD! Get it? NO ONE! This is per my brother who is an immigration attorney.
How many times have we seen
reporting that there is nothing to report...over...and over...and over, and repeating the information they DO have over, and over, and over? Going to the suspect's neighborhood, place of worship, high school, etc. trying to interview the ex-wife, parents, other people he knew, speculating like crazy just to fill air time and keep a big story alive? Or investigating the victim of the crime, going to his neighborhood, interview family, etc., to make the victim seem either a saint or a stinker?
The press never takes no for an answer. Denied hard facts from court or cops, they generally just make pests of themselves messing around in the suspect's personal life to find nuggets to report, then blather on and on. But they apparently do not consider this a big story. That they are not following their usual pattern in itself is a big story.
And many, many times...
physical abuse and murder happen without even a trace of slander. Go figure. ;-)
LA Times Article
Great article in opinion section of LA Times (you can get it online). Dated 06/24/2005, "Hustling on K Street" by Jonathan Chait, concerning Bush paying back the lobbyists and big business.
Reps. John Conyers and Maxine Waters are trying to get a meeting going in Congress tomorrow with Republicans joining in this time to debate and discuss the Downing Street Memos. Dont know if it will be covered on C-Span, sure hope so.
Laughter for trying times.
Ain't that the truth!!! ~MJ
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You accused someone several times of something they did not do. sm
And yet you harp on. Have you no shame?
I probably have used third person at times....
Why is it so important to you?
And if you cannot see the obvious differences in writing, well, you appear to be quite ignorant or unobservant or else you are not telling the truth. But that is your problem and I am not going to make it mine!!!
Yes, PK, too many lies too many times
How many times are you going to say the same thing?!
Geesh! Get over it! You already said, "attacking an innocent..." like a million times! Wow! Move on to the next story already!
No, that would be you......several times today and beyond...nm
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I don't dismiss. How many times have I said...
that all of us should vote for who we feel is best for the country? How is that dismissing? Yes, I am conservative, have always been conservative. I have not changed...the parties have changed. That is why I am now independent..independent of any party. That is how I view being an independent. You have to register as SOMETHING to vote in national elections...and independent most closely defines me at this point, not republican or democrat.
From Asia Times
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html
Fannie Mae/NY Times
Check out the date on this. Of course, this came as no surprise to me. It's surprising to ever find an objective article from the NY Times, but sometimes they surprise us.
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: September 30, 1999
In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.
''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.''
Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.
In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.
''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ''If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.''
Under Fannie Mae's pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 -- a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.
Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990's. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University's Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by 46.3 per cent.
How many times are you going to reply
about my name, does it bother you this much? You really got too much time on your hands!
Tough times
Notice what affilitation the top 6 are! - N wonder they don't care if we're in a recession.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/54838.html
Messiah-end times
If after reading this email you disagree, Please, no need to reply back to me. Your opinion is yours and that's fine, just delete it.
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A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history..
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists.
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists.
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists.
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists.
11. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it-- Muslim male extremists..
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people... Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
According to The Book of Revelations:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40s.
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,
'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'
Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet....do it!
or again. . just delete if you disagree.
Think of times someone has made fun of you.
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Because, as has been pointed out, several times here....
he is still in charge. Obama isn't even in the White House yet, but you seem to think it's fine and dandy to talk about him. I can see Russia from my house, also.
How many times in the last 8 years did
a chance to succeed? You used the phrase "last 8 years" or "8 years ago" 5 times in your post and President's Bush's name 4 times. It is not just you, most people say "for the last 7-1/2 years" or last 8 years, etc. To me that means that they never gave our current president a chance and have never respected him or his office. However, these same people expect everyone who did not vote for Obama to instantly forget everything we have learned about him and fall at his feet. Well, some of us are not drunk on his Kool-Aid and he has to earn our respect.
GP - how many times do we have to repeat
It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center and is funded by the Annenberg Foundation. Obama, Bill Ayers, and Factcheck.org all have ties to the Annenberg Foundation.
Obama has ties to Factcheck.org. In 1995 Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge - A branch of the Annenberg Foundation.
Factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg Foundation. Factcheck was also chosen by the Obama campaign as the arbitrar of Obama's birth certificate.
Anyone can put two and two together and see that Obama and The Annenberg Foundation pays Factcheck.org to put out the false information.
Factcheck claims it has "verified" the O's bc, but other sites has found several inconsistencies which call into question whether the certificate is authentic.
Before you tell anyone they should quit reading blogs that have any useful information, you should not be citing a website that is clearly misleading people and feeding them false information, and that is paid for by the Annenberg Foundation which = Obama.
LOL....more like 3 times a night...(sm)
He actually provides enough goofs to keep 2 channels busy -- MSNBC and Comedy Central.
I have to watch O'Reilly. It's like watching a train wreck. How else would I know what Jon Stewart and Colbert and talking about....LOL. 
Personally, I tried 6 times and still
can't get away from them. Even this tax probably won't help. You name it, I've tried it except Chantix (sp) but I need a doctor to prescribe it and I don't have a doctor yet.
My mom smoked until she was 79. Died 4 months later. DH doesn't care if I don't quit after that because his mother died 6 months after she quit. Doesn't make sense, but it did happen.
Because I was corrected a few times on here, that's why. (nm)
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How many times do we have to explain to you...
Especially since what they have posted is a forgery.
Yeah.......... Times are getting so bad......... sm
criminals are going to have to get jobs!
Good to see you Marmann. I read below of your most recent illness. Sorry to hear that happened but glad to see you are feeling well enough to argue with the rest of us bathrobe pundits!
How many times do you have to be reminded
Guess you couldn't argue with anything I had to say so you picked on "your" versus "you're". If you going to be the spelling police then please stay off this board.
So you don't think I'm an MT because I spelled your wrong????? Talk about freaky that there are people with this kind of mindset. Is your (you're) a medical term? No. How about encephalopathy, rheumatoid arthritis, facet rhizotomy, essential hypertension, and how about millions of other "medical" terms.
Don't you know the difference between this board and an official medical report. Here, let me educate you. This here board that you are on is called MTStars. It has many different topics you can go to. You can gab about issues that concern you (non-political/religious), but if you want to have a political or religious discussion you come to one of these specialized boards. Now if you want to be spelling police you are not to come to this board. There are other sites where you can do that. If you type in some different terms in Google you might find one to your liking. Otherwise stay off this board.
Hence, because you evidently do not know the difference between MTStars gab/political boards and offical medical document I highly doubt you are an MT my dear.
I have been MT'ing for 10 years now, and you know what...I could give a rat's you know what whether or not you think I'm an MT because I spelled it your instead of you're.
And also don't presume to know what party I am, because your showing how true it is about people who assume.
Take your spelling police protocol elsewhere or don't come on the board at all.
How many more times are you going to post about this
I've responded to your silliness below. Kindly read the response to the posts you have ALREADY made without repeating yourself endlessly. PLEASE.
Exactly! You may need to post this 5 more times
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