Obama couldn't do that........ he loves to smoke!!!
Posted By: MsMT on 2009-04-03
In Reply to: If they really cared about our health - wouldn't they just make smoking illegal?
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Obama Tax Promises Up In Smoke
Obama plainly, clearly, and unequivocally promised "not one dime" of tax increase on the workers of America.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D979POSG0&show_article=1
...and the point here is NOT whether you smoke or not. Even if you think that forcing the poor to quit smoking is a beneficial thing, the questions are:
1. Should Obama be held to his tax promises or not?
2. If he can raise these taxes, by what stretch of the imagination do you believe other increases will not follow?
3. Should the government use the power of taxation to enforce policies that it happens to think are beneficial? If you think so, how about taxing the next package of hamburger you buy a couple of bucks a pound unless it has less than 14% fat? And your next loaf of bread a buck or two unless it has 0% transfat? Or the next dozen eggs maybe five bucks for the cholesterol? After all, far more people in this country are obese than smoke.
If I were President, I'd hit every parent with a $10 per day tax if their kids forget to brush their teeth before going to bed (and I'd send jack-booted bed-tooth-inspectors to every house, too!). Now that would raise some serious coin, and improve the nation's dental health. Vote for me.
How I wish that sneaking a smoke was all Obama was hiding...lol....sm
...by the way, I did use my name....my initials actually, as I always do. I admit, I think once I got dyslexic and typed "sm" instead of "ms" ....but there you have it....
Ah well....time will show what he's really like. The one extreme case of poor judgment I'm seeing from Obama is his AG pick... I'm really worried about this Eric Holder.....heaven help us if he refuses again to examine someone's laptop, and permits evidence to go by unnoticed and causes another 9/11....that's my greatest fear at the moment....aside from several others, which shall remain nameless. I have better things to do...like sleep....at the moment....night GP
No one who loves Obama ever wants to believe
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Oregon loves Obama!
Wow, did you see the headline about Obama in Oregon? His rally had 65,000 yesterday with another 15,000 who couldn't fit in, plus more on boats watching from the water. That must have been something! Here's to hoping for a big margin for Obama in Oregon tomorrow and in November!
Calypso Louie Loves Hussain Obama
This should scare the holy hanna out of anyone who votes here:
Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan is very closely aligned to this man.
Remember, this man hates gays, hates whites, etc. If that's not keeping some really questionable company, go ahead and put the blindfold on and vote for a Democrat.
Well....McCain sure couldn't go after Obama in the media, even if he wanted to...
they are all in love with Obama, right down to the tingle up their legs. As to the vitriol on this board, it is easy to see where the mud is, and is not on the Republican side. Nothing of substance posted most of the time, and if it is and is countered by someone, then come the attacks. Just amazing that people living in the same country (and possibly the same town) hate someone because of their political affiliation. Geez.
I'm for it. And I don't even smoke it myself.
I'm probably the only person I know in the world who doesn't smoke it sometimes. And if it helps to restore a sick person's appetite, or helps ease another's pain, why not? Legalizing it would take all the profits out of it for those who are growing it illegally.
And no, I don't think people should overdo it (like they do with alcohol, which society seems to condone, no matter how many people it kills on our highways every year.) I once rode with a friend in her car when she was just slightly high, and nope. She shouldn't have been driving. Couldn't keep her car centered in her own lane. (Next time we took MY car, and I drove, instead.)
I also notice that MJ doesn't make people MEAN, the way booze does.
My aging mother says if she has pain in her later years, she wants to smoke marijuana rather than be doped-up on morphine. If she does, then I think she should be able to do that. I actually wish she'd start smoking it now, because she doesn't eat very well anymore.
There is no smoke. There is only hot air...
...and blatant lies. For anyone who is tempted to believe this garbage, please visit the following site.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
SMOKE-&-MIRRORS.
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Smoke and mirrors. Thanks but no thanks on that
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Where there is smoke there is fire!!
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More smoke and mirrors and much ado about nothing
My first clue that this may be a red herring that merits further investigation was that I could not find information on this piece anywhere except conservative websites and blogs. I also had difficulty locating the text of Newt's so-called "Fairness Rules", which my gut told me was an oxymoron, the mention of Newt and fairness in the same breath.
The key phrase in this piece is found in paragraph 3, lines 4 and 5:
"...bar Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or even the guarantee of open debate ACCESSIBLE BY MOTIONS TO RECOMMIT for any piece of legislation."
It is worthwhile to note that this phrase only appears once, embedded in a storm cloud of protest, fore and aft, and for good reason. There is method to this madness.
Motions to recommit occur at the final stage of bill passage. I have reviewed the text of the Contract On America, err, I mean Contract With America and the scope of its measures did not address the ENTIRE legislative process, as they are trying to suggest here.
I'm not that good at nutshell summaries. Instead, I have tried to present the ENTIRE picture below to clarify exactly what part of the process Pelosi's so-called "erasure" would affect. So much for the assertion that Pelosi is propsing to do away with the democratic process as we know it.
http://www.house.gov/house/Tying_it_all.shtml
Legislative Prcess
A bill is introduced and referred to committee. Any member of the House can introduce a bill at any time, meaning if the pubs don't like what they get out of one bill, they can pen their own as a counter-measure. The bill is then assigned a number, printed in its introduced form and a bill summary appears on the Bill Status Today schedule.
It is then referred to all appropriate committees where it is scheduled for public debate and markup. Notices as such are posted. Transcript of the testimony taken in the hearings is made available in the committee offices as well as printed and distributed by the committee.
Markup occurs after the hearings where amendments are proposed, considered and voted on. This can happen either at subcommittee or committee levels, all of which are subject to due process of notice, available to ALL interested parties.
The committee then votes on the action to be taken. It can be "reported" either with or without amendment or tabled. Sometimes new bills are written if extensive amendments have to be added, resulting in a "clean bill" which is assigned a new number. A committee report is issued summarizing the purpose and scope of the bill and the reasons it is being recommended for approval.
It then goes to the House floor for FULL CONSIDERATION. This process is governed by a "rule," a simple resolution that MUST BE PASSED by the house that sets out the particulars of how much time will allowed for debate, whether amendments can be offered, and other matters. Debate is divided between proponents and opponents. Amendments are offered, debated and voted upon, summarized on a daily basis and posted.
http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/recommit_mot.htm
Motion to recommit
Following this, the bill is ready for a vote on final passage. IT IS AT THE POINT IN TIME WHERE, in some cases, A VOTE TO "RECOMMIT" the bill to committee is requested, also known as a THIRD read. This is usually an effort by opponents to change some portion or table the measure. If the attempt to recommit fails, a vote on final passage is ordered.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade.toc.html
How Our Bills Are Made...for further details on this process.
and you can smoke your reefer in peace
last I knew there was nothing about the president not being able to smoke...
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No smoke, no fire, only mirrors. LOL!
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Politics is all smoke and mirrors.
It's all about what you can make people think they can see, not what's really there.
my God loves you, my God loves me
ALL is in divine and perfect order
My dad died of lung ca. from 2nd-hand smoke. I hope
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God loves McCain too.
Get it? God loves us all. No one more than the other.
I do not understand it. I think he just loves
the campaigning last year. He never makes sense to me. He just talks and talks with lots of prepositions and adjectives, but never makes it real clear as to what he is doing. Nothing new to me, just the same old blah, blah, blah. A lot of what he says is what McCain used to say. Talk about a president putting major fear in you!
In fact, he scares me to death.
Also, I just do not think this stimulus is going to work. Think about it. If you were in debt? Would you actually keep spending and spending and going into more debt? Then you borrow money from family and friends and guess what? You are still in debt plus now more in debt because you owe money to your friends and family! Now you want to borrow money from your children and get more into debt. Then what? You basically go bankrupt. Isn't that what we are doing with this country and giving the debt for our children?
Shouldn't we make cuts here and there to try not to go more into debt? Need to save in case of future disasters and repairs? Instead of spending and spending. I thought Bush liked to do that!
I see the great depression coming with inflation raising its ugly head. I betcha a gallon of milk will cost 8.00 for half a gallon.
I cannot say about Franken....and whether he loves the country or not...
but to say Michael Moore cares deeply about this country is ridiculous. One has only to listen to what he says. He holds this country in contempt.
Ann Coulter makes juvenile insults...okay fine. Franken makes bigoted hateful insults...especially about gays. Pot calling kettle black, big time. If Ann Coulter was on your side of the fence making juvenile insults about Republicans you would be lauding her as well. Kinda transparent...and extreme partisan. I condemned them all...you condemned only the Republican. That speaks for itself.
Refreshing to see he loves his wife, and isn't
And it's about time, too. Out with the old, and in with the new!
YAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
Well, gee. I think Bush loves his wife too.
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You know what they say . . . misery loves company!!
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Bush loves terrorists..he creates them
Seems to me Bush and his ilk love terrorists, after all, by illegally invading a soverign nonthreatening country, he destabilized it and created a terrorist breeding ground..
She loves genocide, if it's done in the *right* place and to the *right* people.
Her love and kindness for her fellow man certainly shows in her comments on Oklahoma City.
My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.
--Ann Coulter as quoted in the New York Observer, Aug. 20, 2002
RE: McVeigh quote. Of course I regret it. I should have added, 'after everyone had left the building except the editors and reporters.'
--Ann Coulter, from an interview with Right Wing News
And Israel loves those suicide bombers.
Your posts are disquieting. Why do you defend Hezbollah?
Another liberal who loves every living thing...
as long as it is not a conservative and agrees with everything they say. Moderator says we can post on either board. I would hate to be so closed-minded I tried to run off anyone who disagreed with me. Good grief. Did this turn into Venezuela overnight?
You hit that right on, BB. Talk about misery loves company!!
And the stock market LOVES it while Boy Wonder flits around!
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Double standard is right... and loves to call other
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Who cares if he has family values and loves this country!
Wall Street loves the new president....ouch! nm
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Wall Street loves the new president....ouch! nm
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Smoke and mirrors? It's math. Like, second grade math.
I don't understand your attack.
A little addition, a little subtraction, a tiny bit of multiplication. It's not all that hard to understand.
If you have questions, ask them. Unless you just don't want to hear the answer. In that case, I can't help you.
name you couldn't think of....
John Evander Couey
I read in August 2007 that he is *fit to die* - *applauds.....
http://www.jessicamarielunsford.com/
Couldn't have said it better
Nobody is questioning his patriotrism, but that's as far as it goes for me. I need someone who has a plan for the country. Who has the insight to see how far our country can go, the great things we can do as a nation.
While people may not know much about Barack one thing I do know is he has a plan and one that can be reached.
John McCain? He has no plan. Your absolutely correct. John McCain's platform is all about him and the time he spent as POW. At least Barack is making the election about us.
A lot of people may not know what Barack will bring (I do - a better future for us). Can you imagine what life would be like if we didn't do things because we didn't know what the outcome would be. A lot of our finest things have come because we took a chance on the unknown. We now have computers and other things, and we went to the moon and are exploring mars - all which was unknown years ago.
McCain - he will bring us war, no improvement in the economy, war, jobs continuing to go overseas, war, tax breaks for big companies and his wealthiest friends, war, continuing to rise food and gas prices, war, a rapidly rising deficit while we continue to send 1.8 billion dollars to Iraq (while they have a surplus), war, war, war, and more war. For those with children I think that would throw a huge red flag up. (and I don't mean the red, white and blue flag).
Couldn't have said it better.
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Couldn't have said it better.
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Couldn't have said it better....sm
McCain had the right idea - he just picked the wrong token female to do it....bad judgement all the way around. There is just no justifying Palin for VP of an entire country let alone to an elderly man with cancer in his medical history.
Couldn't have said it better
Now we have her Hollywood smile that is as irritating as G. W.'s infamous constant smirk. Not to mention "soccer mom" to go along with "when I was in prison." and PULEZ!!! spare me that "folksy stuff." How intelligent people can say she won the debate is far beyond me. I would like to know on exactly which points she won. I didn't hear her give one single intelligent answer to a single intelligent question. Heaven help us if she is one heart beat away from the presidency. We think this country is in trouble now...........
You got that right. Couldn't say it better myself.
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I couldn't have said it better myself
thanks!
Thank you - couldn't have said it better
I get quite irate when I am told what I should or should not watch/read. I have a mind and I know what I feel is right from wrong. Let me think for myself. That's why I don't like a lot of the mainstream TV shows because they sit and give their opinions and then try and tell everyone that is the way they should think. The minute you try and stop certain groups from talking you take away their freedom of speech. Makes me want to shout out to them, how come you get to speak and I can't. They'll scream and shout if their viewpoint is held back but they'll hold back our viewpoints in a nannosecond.
I say let people use their own minds. Let them read and listen to everything. Then let them make up their own minds.
Knowledge is freedom!
Couldn't have said it any better myself! - sm
'I guess if churches don't want government running them, then maybe they should stop trying to run government with their religion.'
Maybe if the churches didn't keep trying to 'dish it out', they wouldn't be in danger of having to 'take it'.
You mean you couldn't tell by looking at him
 Why can't she listen to him anymore?????? His sexual preference doesn't affect his singing voice does it?
So you couldn't resist TWICE?
Couldn't find it.
All I could find on that board was complaining and whining about liberals and how they're all terrible and godless, etc., etc. 'Nuff said.
couldn't resist
We live in a time when comedians outdo pundits. Here's Jay Leno:
President Bush is expected to announce that he is now sending more troops to Iraq, despite the fact that his generals, his military analysts, members of Congress, and most of the American people are against the idea. The reason he is doing it? To give Iraq a government that responds to the will of the people.
also couldn't resist....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqKCbtO9erQ
I couldn't agree more! (SM)
How about Caroline Kennedy for his VP? It's definitely feeling "Camelotty" these days.
Remember the last time a US President chose the chooser of his VP? (Hint: They call him "Darth Vader.") 
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