Obama and Biden voted for the bridge to nowhere....twice....
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-09
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Hmmm....after all that castigating of Bush for Katrina...Obama and Biden had chance to shift funds for the Bridge to Nowhere to Katrina relief...and voted AGAINST it in favor of the bridge.
Now that Alaska is front and center in the news again, it is a good time to catch up on a favorite story, The Bridge to Nowhere, using the Washington Post US Congress Votes Database.
Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, choosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.
However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn (R), who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief.
Sen. McCain did not vote on the Coburn Amendment, though he is on record as opposing the Ketchikan bridge earmark.
Link to votes record below.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/senate/1/votes/262/
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Dems voted for it, Biden voted for it....
Bill Clinton signed it into law. Plenty of blame to go around. McCain asked for regulation of Fannie/Freddie in 2005. Dems blocked it. The Dem record is slightly worse in the regulation/deregulation arena.
But...plenty of blame to go around.
Biden also voted to authorize it. Several..
Democrats did in fact. All the big zero (in homage to your McNasty and McPerfect) voted against was funding the troops. Thank you so much, zero. And to raise taxes 90-some odd times, and don't trot out the motion votes...go check his record.
The 100 years out of context. Did not mean combat troops. We still have troops in South Korea.
Bin laden, they THINK, is in Pakistan. Where the big zero said he would bomb with or without the permission of the Pakistani government. There's a real "no war" statement. Even McCain has not been that bullish on war in Pakistan.
Yeah, Perfect Zero.
Go Obama/Biden! I don't like it and will VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN!
Obama has shown great judgment in the people who surround him. He picked a great VP choice, and his wife is impeccable as a helpmate and is a fantastic role model for the American children.
Obama voted against it, too!
What does that make him?
Why I voted for Obama (sm)
1. I believe in a woman's right to choose. I have read the FOCA bill and have based my decision on my interpretation of that bill in accordance with my own opinion.
2. I believe the war in Iraq is a disaster. I don't think it does credit to our troops to send them into harm's way for an unjust war. Obama will end that war and get our military home. The money we spend in Iraq is also included in that.
3. I agree with Obama's tax plan. I have sat down and compared the two, and in my situation, I get a better deal with Obama's plan. I see no difference in McCain's plan and what is going on right now with Bush.
4. McCain has shown is lack of leadershiip in the fact that he cannot manage his own campaign. He ran all around like a chicken with his head cut off when the economic crisis hit. Said he suspended his campaign and didn't. Obama submitted a plan and went with hit, showing leadership qualities.
5. Negative campaining: This is something McCain and his wife publicly said he would not do, and yet he seems to be okay with it now.
The list is much longer, but these are a few.
You know, GP, I voted for Obama and like
I said, I never cared for the Bush administration, but give Bush a break. Enough is enough.
and Obama voted yes for it. (nm)
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You voted for Obama? NUF SAID! HA!
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The will of the people voted Obama in
and the will of the people voted down gay marriage. There is no gray area.
Excuse me, but I voted for Obama and
I have never questioned the authenticity of his birth certificate. I am not a supporter of Bush but he is our President until Obama is sworn in as President. GP, you jumped to all types of conclusions because I mentioned it was time to stop ranting and raving about Bush. That does not mean I am a Bush supporter.
Even Obama has made his peace with Bush and he is working with him. I think it is high-time you allowed for difference of opinions between dems and pubs. If the pubs want to question Obama's birth certificate athenticity, then so be it.
yes, and many people who voted for Obama can think for themselves too
Obama inherited what he voted for! nm
Not right, as far as I can remember 59% voted for Obama...nm
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Obama voted to extend the Patriot Act...
just so you know. After he said he would work to repeal it. There's some honesty for ya. Frankly, I don't think throwing your pastor and mentor of 20 years under the bus for your political career is particularly moral either. But that is just me.
If Obama plan is socialism then it was just voted in.
Got it?
CRAP! I blame all the ones who voted for Obama,
Geesh. THANKS A LOT. You wanted change, BOY ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT. He is not even President yet, and already a Marxist. Go ahead, bow on your knees to Obama, I want my United States back again. It may have not been perfect and Bush tried along with Clinton, Senior Bush, Regan, Carter, and all the other presidents, but YOU CAN HAVE YOUR HITLER, MARXIST GOVERNMENT. I blame you all who voted for the Marxist, Hitler style government.
That's Obama bin Biden
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Obama/Biden looking better and better.
I guess we're all human, but still.... 
if obama/biden
were for preemptive war, suspension of habeas corpus, torture, and no oversight of corporations resulting in Halliburton, Enron, and banking industry scandals, I would not consider voting for them, no matter how compelling their personal stories or charming they may be. That is why I vote democrat.
Obama + Biden....sm
oreos with no milk....
less than nothing there
Obama also voted not to fund troops in combat....
It should be apparent to all of us by now that whatever you can find on one politician you can find on another... :)
http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/454ad652-5f6d-4cb1-808d-d52a8aa6f4ac.htm
McCain's legal adviser has already voted for Obama.
Yet another high-profile Republican has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama — and this time, it’s one of Sen. John McCain’s own advisers.
Charles Fried, a conservative legal scholar, Harvard professor and former solicitor general under President Ronald Reagan, has asked to be removed from McCain’s list of advisers and thrown his support behind the Democratic presidential nominee.
http://washingtonindependent.com/14860/mccain-adviser-endorses-obama
Nobody cares who you voted for, you bash Obama now and that is not patriotic
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My DH and I, both middle-aged and white, voted for Obama because
we loved his intelligence and his views. Plain and simple. Blackness had nothing to do with our decision to vote Obama. May be hard for you to believe, I understand. Anyone who was against the Iraq war showed thoughtfulness, wisdom, and courage to buck his own party, number one in my book, and millions of others thought the same way. Too bad your coffee is laced with poison, and you HAD better HOPE he gets the country turned around for your own sake.
Only if you want to say Obama Biden Laden
Which I don't know where the Laden comes in. I don't see the similarity unless you want to see it. You need to get Osama Bin Laden out of your minds and grasp reality. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are two great men in politics. Osama? He's been out of my mind ever since Benazir Bhutto said she knew who had killed Bin Laden (then she was assissinated).
this is in regards to Obama choosing biden for VP
it's not original but it is fitting.
this is in regards to Obama choosing biden for VP, Huckabee said
"it's like going to Baskin Robbins and picking vanilla" LOL
I love it. The man who supposedly is about change, doesn't select a VP that's anything different than any of the other demos out there.
So this is you NOT bashing Obama/Biden?
Joe Biden told the truth about his "old friend," John McWayne. He also has a right, if not a mandate from the party, to take issue with failed policies and to define exactly how a McCain coronation would be nothing more than 4 more years of the same old poop.
Whether or not their "friendship" survives the battleground of election politics not a burning concern. The nominee needs to be loyal to the cause of the party. Joe Biden most definitely is that. Once and for all, for some it's all about personal attack politics, but for most of us, it is about issues, issues, issues. BTW, the bus analogy is getting a bit tired by now. It's value was spent long ago during the Rev. Wright rampage.
That snipe about adoring throngs is typical Fox News reporting replay, designed to misconstrue, mislead and spin the reality of the moment. Fact is that Obama has attained celebrity status, not only among his supporters, but all over the globe (85% approval rating in France for example), because those "followers" recognize the charisma that arises out of such personal characteristics as sincerity, honesty, credibility, integrity, intelligence, determination to succeed against all odds, perseverance, courage, compassion, imagination and vision, to name a few. John McCain has about as much charisma as a weather-worn doormat. They also identify with the simplicity of his message of hope, dissatisfaction with the status quo and change.
On the question of inexperience. Let's put this in a little perspective. Obama: 4 years state-level Illinois senate, 4 years US Senator. To say he has "no experience" in foreign policy affairs would require overlooking the fact that those 4 years were war on terrorism years. He at least knows the ropes. In comparison let's begin with the 2 best examples of inexperienced presidents. These guys managed to leave behind them legacies as the most brilliant and inspired leaders in our nation's history. To further illustrate the point, there are a few more examples cited.
1. JFK: Despite 6 years in the Massachusetts House of Representatives and 7 years as a US senator, he was relentlessly dogged by his own party's elders for being the new kid on the block, based primarily on his youth. When placed in context, his credentials become fairly impressive, to say the least, considering he had achieved 13 years of experience by the age of 46 (one year younger than Obama), when he was sworn in as president. Like Obama, Kennedy's rising star was launched at age 40, when he became a first term US Senator who later entered the presidential race after an electrifying convention speech in 1956. The cronies did not take him very seriously at first. When challenged by his party's colleagues on this issue, he replied, “Experience,” he said, “is like taillights on a boat which illuminate where we have been when we should be focusing on where we should be going.”
2. Abraham Lincoln, perhaps the most inexperienced of them all and a political late-bloomer, was elected president at age 52 after 2 short years as a US Senator from Illinois. This beginner managed to make one of the most significant contributions to the progressive advancement of American values that, to this day we continue to elaborate.
3. GW Bush had no experience beyond one 4-year term of state level politics as governor. The mockery he made of "representing" the best interests of Texans is well documented. His failures in virtually every business venture he ever tried and his silver spoon sense of heritage was the stuff of legend in the Lone Star State. He was a horrible governor. His tenure as president has been an utter disaster.
4. Bill Clinton had a little more on the state level, but no federal level experience. At least his state-level experience reflected well on him in that regard: 2 years as Arkansas Attorney General (1977-1979), and 11 years total as Governor (1979-1981 and 1983-1992). Must have been doing something right for his constituents, since they kept bringing him back, just like they did when he served 2 terms as a rookie pres.
5. Ronald Reagan. Lots of on-screen acting experience in Hollywood, 8 years as a Governor, none whatsoever on the federal level. Want to dish about the rock star/"celebrity" candidate? Guess not. California, home of Hollywood, is entitled. They have another celebrity governor who, like Reagan, won that office without any prior political experience whatsoever.
6. Jimmy Carter. Three years in the Georgia State House of Representatives and 4 years as Governor. No federal experience.
Does not seem to have been much of a REAL issue in the past…probably still isn't. That "so-called" bad image of the US among world leaders is justified and well deserved. Fact remains that, while others before him had their hand in this erosion of US standing, George Bush's contribution in this regard is unmatched in recent times. Piece of work, that guy. Denying this will not make it any less true. Don't waste your time speculating on how well received Obama will be tonight or how seriously he will be taken. For most of us, including, Ahmadinejad or Medvedev, we are drop dead serious about the direction the our country is going and will be looking way, far beyond spineless, impotent personal attacks and examining the question of how many among us and across the globe share his vision of the future….same questions the republicans will have to face, at long last, next week.
Biden also said that Barack Obama was not...
ready to be President. I believe his words were: "THe Presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training." Not what he is saying now. Let's be real about this.
Obama and Biden vote
What you don't realize is that when the vote took place, Pubs were in charge of house and senate. They always throw in crap (like the Bridge to Nowhere) in with the budget. In order to get anything done for the American people, the Democrats have to vote yes even though there are things in there that they don't agree with. That's how the Pubs do it. Lumping everything together instead of the way it's supposed to be done. Democrats have to compromise in order to get anything done. Pubs never do. They always want their way, like little babies, instead of doing what's right for the country. Like when congress went on vacation in August, they threatened a government shutdown if Pelosi refused to bring up a vote on drilling. Then when the government's shut down and more people suffering, they blame the Democrats when it's all the Pubs' fault. And stupid Pubs just listen to everything that comes out of their mouths and believe it. Wake up people! Watch CSPAN once in awhile and see the truth for yourselves!
FINE! JOE BIDEN SAID OBAMA WAS NOT...
READY TO BE PRESIDENT!! Which is worse??? Geez.
Joe Biden also said that Obama was not ready...
to be President. Is HE sticking by that? Sorry to you to...lol
Obama and Biden are sinking themselves....sm
every time they open their mouths lately. They don't need help from anyone else.
Regarding the O, did you know he lied in one of his memoirs? Said he worked for an investment firm (or something like that, my husband told me this story). Said he felt he sold out by going to work, sitting in the corner office, and selling stock (or whatever he said he sold). So he left that job and went out to do community organizing.
Turns out...and this from a guy that worked with him at the time...there was no corner office. No one wore suits, they all wore tee shirts. And they wrote financial ad copy.
Now mind you, this guy that actually worked for him, says he didn't tell the truth here on several levels, about this position and job and all, in his, you know, memoir...but hey, I'm voting for him anyway....
So he lies, I know it, I'm still voting for him.
Go figure....
NOW supporting Obama/Biden...
http://www.now.org/press/09-08/09-16.html
Joe Biden didn't think Obama was up to the job of...
Presidency either...and you don't get any more Democrat than Joe Biden. Of course, that all changed when he got added to the ticket.
There are a few conservatives who don't like John McCain...that is no secret. He has stepped on a lot of toes in his career because he puts country first and party second. That makes as many enemies as it does friends.
And it makes him, in my opinion, just what we need. I am ready for a President who puts his country first.
As to Sarah P and her photo ops...no different than Barack and his trip to germany and Israel. He only took news outlets in the tank for him and they would not dare ask him a tough question. Let's at least be fair about this.
Why doesn't Obama let Biden take over for him...
and go to DC and show leadership like McCain is? Didn't hear Letterman making that point. And you won't either. lol.
Yeah, Biden just knows that Obama needs
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What are you talking about? The Biden/Obama
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If Biden or Obama was on there, you would praise
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Hey Obama - where are you hidin Biden?
They are keeping him under such tight wraps he is not allowed to go anywhere or talk to anyone.
Goes both ways.
Well, Biden works FOR Obama now -and is
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There is no excellence in Obama and Biden....
70% of the population has turned out to protest against the person who declared himself their leader.... well, of course, Obama isn't going to say anything....... his administration thinks they should control this country as well so why would he care that the Iranian people are speaking out against their govt?
Even democrats have asked Obama to simply say he supports these young people who are protesting the tyrannical govt they live under...they haven't asked him to declare war on them for goodness sakes! How hard could that be to simply speak out in support of those that are being oppressed by a dictator?!
The people can't do anything on their own because they have NO WEAPONS!!!! Only the military have weapons. You think rocks alone will stop this evil?
There is more than meets the eye here you can be sure of.... it's got Obama written all over it!!
I thought I was going to puke when Obama said he respects the "sovereignty" of their country... what a joke!! He doesn't even respect the sovereignty of this country!! If he did, he would stop illegals from having our jobs, sent those with visas OUT of this country, and let those legal Americans have jobs...
But, of course, those with half a brain know what that is all about. You don't stop the illegals, you get the e-verify done away with, and then you have THOUSANDS of more illegals voting for you the next time around.
PLEASE.... WHAT A JOKE!!
WAKE UP!
Obama/Biden - looks like Osama Bin Laden, and
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Will do and with great pride! GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!! NM
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obama osama biden bin laden.....
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Obama-Biden Lobbyists - change??
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/27/politics/washingtonpost/main4388540.shtml
http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/08/27/obama-rewarded-bidens-lobbyist-son-with-34-million-in-earmarks.aspx
So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm
Biden is Obama's harshest critic from the
Oh, for Heavens sakes. Years up there mean nothing to me. The longer you stay, the more jaded and entrenched you become in the very crap we are trying to get outselves out of now. Years of service do not necessariy equate to good deeds....ya gotta do better than that. The man is so wishy washy on his votes, he'll fly whatever way the wind blows him, which is why he is now running with Obama. Anyhooooo....
He stood shoulder to shoulder with Obama while running for presidential candidacy and said when asked what he thought about Obama....
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......
"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."
Biden has denounced Obama's poor foreign policy "judgement" over and over and over and in his own words said that "Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be President."
He said Obama was not ready to serve as President. Better yet, let me just list the reasons why Biden is a patsy....
About Obama he said, "Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."
On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."
On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."
Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."
Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).
Now, here he stands alongside the very guy he can't stand. And you think this is an upstanding God fearing lover of his country? This man is no different than Obama; he'll do whatever is necessary to get his foot in the door for an upcoming Presidency, even if that means acceping a VP position from a guy he can't stand, doesn't agree on anything with, and likes his opposition better. Yea, what a deal we got there!!!!!
Your turn....
For all those Obama/Biden lovers.....this bears
Biden's years up there mean nothing to me. The longer you stay, the more jaded and entrenched you become in the very crap we are trying to get outselves out of now, with the exception of a few who have never changed their stance. Years of service do not necessariy equate to good deeds....ya gotta do better than that. The man is so wishy washy on his votes, he'll fly whatever way the wind blows him, which is why he is now running with Obama. Anyhooooo....
He stood shoulder to shoulder with Obama while running for presidential candidacy and said when asked what he thought about Obama....
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......
"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."
Biden has denounced Obama's poor foreign policy "judgement" over and over and over and in his own words said that "Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be President."
He said Obama was not ready to serve as President. Better yet, let me just list the reasons why Biden is a patsy....
About Obama he said, "Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."
On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."
On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."
Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."
Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).
Now, here he stands alongside the very guy he can't stand. And you think this is an upstanding God fearing lover of his country? This man is no different than Obama; he'll do whatever is necessary to get his foot in the door for an upcoming Presidency, even if that means acceping a VP position from a guy he can't stand, doesn't agree on anything with, and likes his opposition better. Yea, what a deal we got there!!!!!
Your turn....
You're not aware what Biden said about Obama?
There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden. Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words that "Americans are quickly realizing that Barack Obama is not ready to be President." His words. He stood on a stage shoulder to shoulder with Obama and said this very thing at the dem debates.
And, Biden's own words.
"I think he(Obama) can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......
"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."
About Obama's foreign policy he said..
"Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."
On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."
On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."
Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."
Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).
I mean, this is why the entire Obama/Biden ticket is such a joke...gotta wonder what is going on. Biden does not care for Obama at all nor his beliefs.
Biden thinks more highly of McCain than Obama and has said so.
Didn't you watch the democratic debates?
Biden and Obama are NEVER asked the kinds of ....
questions McCain and Palin have been asked....who else has Charlie Gibson asked about the Bush Doctrine? Come on, if you are honest, you KNOW that the mainstream media softball Obama and Biden...and defended the hard questions given to those candidates (and Obama camp also defended the hard questions as legitimate concerns) saying they just needed to get tough, that was politics. When the same thing happened to them, they boycotted the station, refused anymore interviews with the station, and yelled bias. I find that hypocrisy of major proportions. JMO, of course.
Well, I dont "like" Obama or Biden either. Most
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