Not to get a fight started...just an observation...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-02-05
In Reply to: Edwards on TV - delighted
that little twinge is probably be the Holy Spirit and you would be well served to maybe listen to it....? Or perhaps you think not listening to the twinge in favor of listening to John Edwards is the better path.
God bless!
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Oh and an observation. sm
Your a hoarder, aren't you? You are one of those awful people who stores perceived bad things about people and then they cross you BAM!!!! It all just comes vomiting out. Yes, I know that you are and it's obvious by your posts. You are hit-below-the-belt kinda gal. Any weapon in your arsenal, even when you are wrong and have been proven wrong, that stuff is just burned into your brain and even a hate-filled screed doesn't get it out. Not a pretty picture.
Observation....(sm)
I would agree that Obama is a pop culture thing. However, if you sit back and look at it you will see why. The younger generation typically gets it's news from shows like Saturday Night Live, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, etc. All of these are slanted to the left. The Obama campaing used the internet very successfully as well to reach the younger generation. The republican party has done nothing like this to reach the younger voter. Why? If I were a young person I would look at it like, well, I guess the republican party doesn't want to take time out to actually reach us, so he must not have our interests at heart.
This is also mirrored in the not-so-young group. Obama was everywhere including, again, the internet, predominantly black churches, labor unions...the list goes on. His campaign was inclusive of many. He also had the benefit of more money which allowed for more visibility through commercials.
The McCain camp on the other hand went for predominantly white churches, less commercials, and very little internet. I'm sure there are more than this, but I personally did not see any, and I live in TN (if you can believe that)...LOL
I think if you look at both sides you will see people just spewing out what they've heard in commercials or in speeches. Not everyone watches cable news like most of us do.
The funny thing to me is that America voted in an African-American citizen with one parent from Africa, who admittedly not only smoked marijuana but also inhaled because *that was the point.* ROFL. I think it's obvious that the majority of people in this country want change. They may not know what that change is, but they do know that what is happening now is not working.
Just an observation..sm
I do not consider myself strictly republican or democrat. I always vote according to the issues, not the party. Forty or 50 years ago it seemed that the working class folks were democrat and the upper class folks were republican. There were not as many social issues involved in politics. I was just a little kid back then, but I recall my father being a "democrat". Jumping ahead to now, there are a lot of older folks in my area, especially rural areas, that don't look at issues at all, don't even know what the candidates support, but by golly, they are voting democrat all the way.
Just an observation...(sm)
The group "2 Million For Marriage" would like you to call them "2M4M." Do these people not look up anything? ROFL.
Just an observation here,
but wasn't he sworn in on a bible, and not a koran? I think he just did not want photographs living on and on with him standing in front of a cross. (Just in case he wants to hedge his bets.)
Just an observation...sm
I am not republican or democrat...I make my voting choices based on issues. I would just like to make an observation here. Maybe I haven't paid really close attention to political stuff in the past, but I don't know that I have ever seen this Country more split that it is right now. I have never seen or heard such irresponsible, selfish and disrespectful actions from Congress as they have done in the last year or so. It seems that no one, and I mean NO ONE, in Washington cares about the future of the United States, only about themselves or certain groups who they think can give them something. I'm not trying to start any arguing back and forth. I just needed to say this.
Just another quick observation...
when Clinton came to OKC after the Murrah bombing, even though he is not anywhere on my list of favorite people, I was happy that he came and represented the office and spoke to we Oklahomans. It was moving and I was very, very happy that he came. What I did NOT do, and what NO conservative I was aware of did, was complain that why did he come there and NOT go to the funerals of those soldiers who were killed and their bodies dragged behind Jeeps in Somalia. Why, you ask? Because the two had absolutely NOTHING to do with each other. And to try to make political hay out of what happened at Virginia Tech is immature, thoughtless, and another hurt to add to those poor folks in VA trying to deal with this. War is awful, hateful, and NOBODY wants it; however, death has always been associated with war. However, going to your class innocently on any April day and having a lunatic come in and shoot 32 of you is FAR different. And if you really cannot see the difference and the emotional effect, not just you but a great many on the left, need to really sit down and examine your values. Seriously.
Just an Observation, Observer.....
Approximately 65% of the posts on this board are made by you. I have read some of your posts, and in one of them you state that you come here, as a conservative, mainly to read and learn. Are you certain that this is, in fact, your main purpose for coming here? It would seem from the sheer number of your posts, well over 50% of them being made by you here, that your purpose is not to read and learn, but rather to dominate and monopolize. Just an observation....
A Realist's Observation...
Got this email this morning...
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first SIX, with a conservative majority, the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago: 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high; 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon; 3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%, the lowest in decades. 4) the DOW JONES hit a record high—peaked over 14,000 5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and we got 'CHANGE'. In the PAST YEAR: 1) Consumer confidence has plummeted; 2) Gasoline is went over $4 a gallon & STILL unstable!; 3) Unemployment is up over 5.5%; 4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping; 5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure. 6) And THE DOW is probing another low~~$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS has evaporated from their stocks, bonds, and mutual fund investment portfolios.
Let’s not forget, the President has little control over any of these issues…ONLY CONGRESS. And what has Congress done in the last two years?.....NOTHING!
NOW the candidates CLAIM they are going to really give us change…along with this same democratic Congress????
I don’t think we can stand much more 'CHANGE' like this….
What's y'alls' take on it...??
Excellent observation
Truth is truth and facts are facts. No matter how much you hate someone and think their dummer than a rock, you can't put the blame all on him. Everytime the democrats get into office the economy goes down the tubes. The facts are that the congress votes on issues (not George Bush).
Love the observation. Thanks.
I'm just making an observation (sm)
If there are any FACTS (and I'm not talking about an interpretation) relevant to this election from pubs on here, please feel free to point them out. I am honestly trying to understand why people would vote for McCain.
Great observation
I haven't thought of that aspect of all this hoopla and flash that has accompanied this whole election/inauguration. I'm not worried as much about him as I am his snooty, snobbish, holier than thou wife! She already has a goddess complex, I sure hate to see what all this is going to do to her. Seriously, can she get her nose any higher? Looking down on people like she's so above them, makes me sick.
You certainly have that one right - good observation
If only more people would realize this.
Good observation
You said it. It's sad to see that it's not balanced anymore and people don't want to hear the truth. My MIL thrives on bashing the republicans and the conservative shows. She listens to the way way left and all she can do is gloat about Obama winning and how perfect and handsome he is and she'll actually come out and state what she wants to happen to anyone who is a republican. The same thing she's screaming about if it happened to Obama but its okay if it happens to a republican. It's just very sad that this is what our country has turned into. - Zero tolerance for anyone who has a different viewpoint.
You are deifinitely right about the liberal rigging the game.
It was just an obvious observation.....
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An astute observation!! look it up!!!!
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Attack versus observation
So if someone called me a big, fat, smelly, ugly, loud-mouthed, foul hag that could qualify as an observation (in your words) and would therefore be acceptable? I mean, technically someone could say they OBSERVED these traits in me. When does something cross the line and become a personal attack?
My take on all this is that if it originates from one of the C-posters it's an observation. If it originates from an L-poster it's an attack. Not always, but in general. Could be due to the whole political board system have a very very far right-leaning slant........
Merely an observation. I'll pass on this and
Sam is hateful because sam is hateful. Her posts speak for themselves.
You make an important observation.
The "arrogance" and "elite" accusations are tactics used ad nauseum in the absence of direct debate on issues, when trying to avoid confronting talking points that have been raised and when trying to run from fact and valid observations/opinions. Usually these accusations are made by folks whose own fund of knowledge is limited on the issues at hand and who are not inspired to research to broaden their own fact base in rebuttal.
This is when the accusations surface and attitudes are substituted for intelligent discourse. You are right. The confusion you describe and accusations of this nature are typically leveled against Obama, who does display confidence, intelligence, substance and ability to lead, which unnerves his detractors and send them into fits and tantrums.
Don't go there - I made that observation last week
and got shredded apart for it. I thought it was freaky, but all the super-dems took major offense to it. It was just an observation on my part.
This observation is made by a Canadian MT.
Go Obama! Hilliary in 2012. The world is watching and the world says VOTE OBAMA.
Intelligence offends you? Just an observation.
Oh oh, another big word....
Excellent post and observation
You saw the same thing I did too. The Queen would never be so low class to point out one's error in front of others. MO should not have put her hand on the Queen's back, shoulder or touched her anywhere. She should have shook her hand and that was it.
I made a general observation relative to the post.
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Then they should be willing to fight...sm
if it is democracy they want. After all, that's their fight not ours.
ooh cat fight
compassionate hippie cat fight!!! I've got so much patchouli on that you couldn't stand to get near me anyway.
See? there you go again, trying to fight
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Your guy is still going to fight the war...
in Afghanistan and is backing off a bit on his timetable for Iraq...but as long as it his HIS idea to fight, its okay?
Why don't you do a little bit of research on Obama, and not close your eyes to the numerous skeletons in HIS closet? Only one guy talking about cleaning up washington, both parties. Only one guy talking about cutting spending. That is the guy I am voting for.
Looking at the shape this country is in right now, looking at what Obama says he is going to do (STILL) when he knows there is no money to do it with...the Dems on the banking comittee and the ones getting rich while our economy was going down the tubes...you on the left have such a problem with the "rich" but Franklin Raines, Timothy Howard, James Johnson...ALL advising Obama...got RICH dragging Fannie Mae to the ground and all of us with them...and Obama the MOST liberal senator in his voting record...that isn't CHANGE. That is the same old Washington politics.
You really can't see that? Really?
GO FIGHT WIN
MCCAIN!!!!!
Do I want to fight?
Oh yes, I want to have an email war! Lets go, first one to type the dirtiest word wins!
Sheesh. Does your mommy know you are on here?
But seriously, get help.
Sometimes it is necessary to fight, whether we want to or not...
not one service member wants to be in Iraq, but they ARE doing good things over there. Unfortunately, our media is so biased that we rarely see the good that comes of our efforts. I do not believe that the war is senseless and it is not because I "have to believe" any such thing. It is because someone needed to stop Hussein before he became another Hitler. He was well on his way. Also, by fighting a little on other soil, I believe that we keep it from happening on ours and, unfortunately, our general populous doesn't have what it takes to defend their own way of life. Someone else has to do it for them.
I don't know why you would choose this fight anyway...sm
Bennetts words are right there for all to see/hear. This came out of his mouth, you can't make this stuff up.
If you can't see any wrong, hate, inappropriateness in what he said then that's on you.
Well....we know they have no stomach for the fight. ;-) (nm)
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Thank you for your post.....some of us do fight
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She's willing to fight for the blob....(sm)
but not the turkey!! The voice of the turkey will be heard!!!! LOL.
P.S. I hope you fight to the end.
There should be no way you should take a smaller amount if he was insured for a certain amount.
One more question...and I am NOT trying to start a fight....
just curious as to what you mean by "extremely conservative viewpoint?" Could you give examples? I won't even respond if you do not want me to...I just want to know what you consider an extremely conservative viewpoint.
Thanks!
why did you even bring this up - looks like you are trying to start a fight
Everytime a subject is brought out you seem to like to interject a bash to Sam. I've been reading the posts and nowhere in response to my post here did I see sam post a "message with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating argument". I'm reading the responses to my post about issues and I'm not seeing one from sam called "let the games begin", so I have no idea what you are talking about. If your talking about another post awhile back, then start a new thread, but for Pete's sake don't drag it into mine. Forget sam - it looks like you are the one who is trying to start arguments. Leave your personal hatred out of this and be an adult for once. Posts like this I would expect from my 12 year old, but we are adults here. What's frustrating is to finally start reading about a lot of issues that both sides would like to know about and info they are sharing with us and then all of a sudden - bam, here comes your post bashing sam. I'm sitting here now looking at all the responses to my post and I'm not seeing the one you are talking about. Lets stick to issues and facts. It also sounds like some other posters want that too.
No fight. Just looking for space and issues.
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I still vote for a jello fight
I mean since that's about how silly these campaigns have gotten :)
But seriously, why waste this much money on campaigning from either side? I admit it was just a bit of a pot shot at Obama (sorry!) but Mccain could do it too.
Then again our nation pays celebrities and professional athletes millions and teachers and police/fire/EMS etc make barely above minimum wage...
No wonder we are going down the crapper! Where are our priorities? When it's more important to see Lindsey Lohan's tadadada instead of paying teachers decent money to teach "our future".
*sigh* Maybe I'll go to Australia. I don't ever hear anything about Australians, 'cept for barbies and kangaroos and Steve Irwin (God rest his soul!). :-D
Not picking a fight, truly curious
As a nonbeliever what do you think it is that makes you feel good inside when you do something good? I don't know much about atheists, always thought there wasn't much to know, except they don't believe in God and so I would assume when they die they believe that everything stops right there. I feel that there has to be a better life in the world to come so I am asking a sincere question which is thought provoking at least to me. If a loved one dies, how do you deal with it? What happens to them. When you die what happens to you?
Not picking a fight, truly curious
As a nonbeliever what do you think it is that makes you feel good inside when you do something good? I don't know much about atheists, always thought there wasn't much to know, except they don't believe in God and so I would assume when they die they believe that everything stops right there. I feel that there has to be a better life in the world to come so I am asking a sincere question which is thought provoking at least to me. If a loved one dies, how do you deal with it? What happens to them. When you die what happens to you?
Keep it about the politics. Argue, fight it out...
disagree, agree, whatever. It's not a personal bash board to personally attack and insult other posters though.
At least Obama knows WHICH COUNTRY the fight is with
Not Iraq, since he doesn't have a Daddy that he has to clean up after, he can just go to the right country immediately and bypass the special agenda that fueled the last guy!
The opposition is going to fight the other side...
no matter who it is. George Washington was the only president that did not face opposition to his being the president - at least for the first term. Mind you, he was not elected to his first term and after his first four years when he was asked to serve another four, he was beaten down from both sides so much so that he swore he would never enter into politics again. This is the father of our country - the man who helped win our freedom from England! If he can't escape from being shot down at every turn, what makes anyone else who runs for president think they can? It's the nature of the beast and comes with the job.
What's the old saying? You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
You would pick a fight with anyone, wouldnt you?
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NYC using fed millions to fight sick WTC workers. sm
Shame on them. Looks like the articles by the Daily News is finally getting them some much needed attention.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/438101p-369136c.html
Syrians fight off attack on U.S. Embassy
How can this be? I thought Syria was one of those Islamofascist countries harboring the evil doers who hate us for our freedom and a potential target on Bush's hit list after (before?) Iran. How could they possibly save American lives?
Syrians fight off attack on U.S. Embassy
By SAM F. GHATTAS, Associated Press Writer 25 minutes ago
Armed Islamic militants attempted to storm the U.S. Embassy in a brazen attack Tuesday, the government said. Four people were killed, including three of the assailants. There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but an al-Qaida offshoot group was suspected, Syria's ambassador to the United States said.
No Americans were hurt in the attack, in which the militants used automatic rifles, hand grenades and at least one van rigged with explosives.
The al-Qaida offshoot group, called Jund al-Sham, has been blamed for several attacks in Syria in recent years, the Syrian ambassador, Imad Moustapha, said in comments to CNN.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised Syrian security agents for repelling the attack, but added it was too early to know who may have been behind it.
I think it's very early to try and speculate why this may have happened, said Rice, speaking at a news conference in Nova Scotia Tuesday with her Canadian counterpart, Peter MacKay.
The attackers apparently did not breach the high walls surrounding the embassy's white compound in the city's diplomatic neighborhood.
One of Syria's anti-terrorism forces was killed and 11 other people were wounded, the official news agency reported. The wounded including a police officer, two Iraqis and seven people employed at nearby technical workshop.
A Chinese diplomat also was hit in the face by shrapnel and slightly injured while standing on top of a garage at the Chinese Embassy, China's Foreign Ministry said. The diplomat, political counselor Li Hongyu, was in stable condition at a hospital, the ministry said.
A witness said a Syrian guard outside the U.S. Embassy also was killed, but the government did not immediately confirm that. As at most American embassies worldwide, a local guard force patrols outside the compound's walls while U.S. Marines are mostly responsible for guarding classified documents and fighting off attackers inside the compound.
Witnesses also said the gunmen tried to throw hand grenades into the embassy compound, shouting Allahu akbar! or God is great! It was not clear if any of the grenades made it over the walls, which are about 8 feet high.
The attack came at a time of high tension between the United States and Syria over the recent Israeli-Hezbollah war in neighboring Lebanon. In Damascus, the sentiment has become increasingly anti-American.
Syria has seen previous attacks by Islamic militants. In June, Syrian anti-terrorism police fought Islamic militants near the Defense Ministry in a gunbattle that killed five people and wounded four. In 2004, four people were killed in a clash between police and a team of suspected bombers targeting the Canadian Embassy.
The Bush administration has been critical of the tight control that the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad has over its people. Rice, meeting with her Canadian counterpart in Nova Scotia, would not speculate on whether Tuesday's attack may be an indication that the regime's control is slipping.
White House press secretary Tony Snow also expressed gratitude to Syria.
Syrian officials came to aid of the Americans, Snow said. The U.S. government is grateful for the assistance the Syrians provided in going after the attackers, and once again, that illustrates the importance of Syria being an important ally in the war on terror.
It does not mean they are an ally. We are hoping they will become an ally and make the choice of fighting against terrorists, he said, adding that the Bush administration does not know who is responsible for the attack.
Washington recalled Ambassador Margaret Scobey after the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in 2005, amid suspicions that Damascus had a role in it. She has not returned since, effectively downgrading U.S. diplomatic representation to the level of charge d'affaires.
Pools of blood lay on the sidewalk outside the U.S. Embassy, near a burned car apparently used by the attackers. A sport utility vehicle with U.S. diplomatic tags had a bullet hole in its windshield, and the windows of nearby guard houses also were shattered.
There were conflicting reports of what happened.
Syrian TV said one car was rigged with explosives but never was detonated by the attackers. But one witness said a second car did explode, and TV video showed a burned car.
The Interior Ministry, which is in charge of police, said a fourth attacker now in detention was wounded in what it called a terrorist attack. The report, carried on state-run television, said anti-terror units brought the situation under control and an investigation was under way.
In Washington, a State Department spokesman confirmed the attack by unknown assailants but had few details. Local authorities have responded and are on the scene, said spokesman Kurtis Cooper said.
A U.S. Embassy statement said the embassy came under armed attack at 10:10 a.m. and that all embassy personnel were safe. One Syrian guard was injured by gunfire and was hospitalized in a stable condition, the statement said.
The embassy's charge d'affaires, Michael Corbin, met with Interior Minister Bassam Abdel Maguid at the scene, and spoke by phone with assistant minister of foreign affairs, Ahmed Arnous, according to the statement.
It said the Syrian government has pledged full security cooperation.
About 30 Syrian guards usually are posted around the embassy 24 hours a day, Moustapha said.
State television said four armed attackers attempted to storm the embassy, using automatic rifles and hand grenades. Syrian security guards attacked the gunmen, killing three and wounding a fourth, TV said.
The attackers came in two cars and parked one that was rigged with explosives in front of the embassy but did not blow it up, state-run TV reported. Explosives experts dismantled the bomb, it said.
But a witness told The Associated Press that two gunmen drove up in front of the embassy, got out of their car, shot at the Syrian sentries at the building's entrance, and then detonated explosives in the car.
The witness, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said the security personnel fired back, and security forces rushed to the scene.
Television showed a delivery van loaded with pipe bombs strapped to large propane gas canisters outside the embassy. Had the bombs detonated, the explosions could have caused massive damage.
The video also showed the charred remains of a smaller car parked several feet behind the van.
Up to 40 U.S. diplomats are posted at the embassy, which is average in size, according to Tom Case, a deputy spokesman at the State Department.
Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
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Why should O be desperate? Pubs have been spoiling for a fight
All nice and legal, headed up by a brilliant, constitutional attorney. DOJ is considering the request. Stay tuned.
Don't fight it, sweetie. Let the love in. You'll feel better.
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