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Not as scary as a career politician with ties...

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-08
In Reply to: One heartbeat away from the presidency.,,,,,,,, - sm

to all kinds of questionable characters, who has zero executive experience, showed up to vote present the majority of the time therefore not having to make a decision...can't vote present in the oval office. She has more experience than he does...fact is fact. And she is not running for pres...HE is. He is in the chair day one. SCARY indeed.


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Look at his past political career....
while he was an organizer in Chicago he pushed through legislation with earmarks beneficial for his benefactors...Tony Rezko and the Daley political machine, because that is what it takes to get ahead in Chicago politics. He made a somewhat meteoric rise...and that only happens when you have the right kind of political support and you repay that support.

One of the first things he did as senator was steer over a million dollars in earmarks to his wife's employer...who had just previous to that DOUBLED her salary.

He has a long-standing relationship with William Ayers...a man who hates this country. Among his advisors are people on record as saying Hugo Chavez is a great champion of Democracy.

That is what I am talking about regarding his history. He is not going to change anything. He is a consummate politician, the most liberal senator in the senate, to the left of Ted Kennedy even. It will be politics as usual. He personifies Washington politics as usual, and so does his running mate...been there 30 years.

Sorry...I see past the bio the media has created and look at his political career. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

I invite you to get and read the book "The Case Against Barack Obama." It lays it all out there for you with verifiable facts about the earmarks, the Daley machine, William Ayers, the whole thing.

But only if you are interested in both sides. I am not trying to fight with you. Just offering a source.

Have a good night!
This is where Obama kicked off his career sm
Obama's formal kick-off to announce his run for state senate was at the Hyde Park Ramada Inn on Sept. 19, 1995. Obama was introduced by [Democratic Sen. Alice] Palmer in a room filled with supporters at the Ramada, fronting Lake Michigan on South Lake Shore Drive, a stroll from the Museum of Science and Industry.

*Around this time, Obama started to attend a series of coffees in the Hyde Park community where he lived, standard operating procedure for political rookies running in the neighborhoods surrounding the University of Chicago.

*The Ackermans, Sam and Martha, longtime Hyde Park activists in independent Democratic politics, also held an early event for Obama in their condo on E. Hyde Park Boulevard. (They have since divorced.)

She was entertaining for the first 5 minutes of her career
before people realized her insanity wasn't an act.
Scary? What is scary is Obama and friends.
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Dearest Vie, might I recommend a career change?
Perfect career for you... the human lie detector.  I mean with your talents and insight, you could make millions. 
That video spanned a career..and was heavily edited......
this link covers the presidential campaign:

http://www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/asymmetric/2008/07/09/comprehensive-obama-flip-flop-list

McCain is still the guy.
That's another Fox lie... his career was kicked off in the home of a woman, not Ayers
They just want to blow this thing out of proportion. Helloooo Ayers reformed and now works with Mayor Daley in Chicago. He works with VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS, Reaganites, etc. He was never convicted. It doesn't matter because it's only the Obama haters who pay attention to this exaggerated story.
So you say...I have not seen any ties from
McCain and Palin to any skinheads. Come on. That is ridiculous. Skinheads do not need any fuel.
Right, scary... Speaking of scary, O sure is.
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Obama's Ties

Obama Ties to Farrakhan Revealed
A former top deputy to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan
tells Newsmax that Barack Obama’s ties to the black nationalist
movement in Chicago run deep, Kenneth Timmerman reports.
Read the Full Story — Go to Newsmax.com.


To quote the old 70s band, "Bad Company..."  And this is just one of many!


Impressive!.


I think he has some rather nice ties
He always looks great!
They have proven ties to Al Queda. nm
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Why did the Kennedy's have ties to organized crime?

Why was the Texas Democratic party of Lyndon Johnson horribly corrupt?


Why was Lyndon Johnson's election to the senate in 1948 won by massive voter fraud?


Why did Lyndon Johnson insert language into the IRS code in 1954 that prohibited non-profits, including churches, from endorsing or opposing candidates for political office. In effect, this thoroughly corrupt man used the power of the IRS to silence his opposition. Unfortunately, it worked. Why?  His disservice to religious freedom has yet to be undone.  Why?


How did Kennedy defeat Nixon in Illinois? 


Just rhetorical questions.


 


Biden also has ties to Tony Rezko...

http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/joe-biden-has-ties-to-tony-rezko/


O's alleged ties will cost money plus a lot more...nm
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Uhhh.. Obama IS a socialist and has ties to a
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Are you a politician?
cuz that nonsense you just typed sounds like something ignorant a politician would say. 
Yeah, I think my MENSA ties just might make me "minimally"...sm
intelligent too....lol....
On terrorist ties, since topic is popular for the moment
McCain link to private group in Iran-Contra case.

http://yorkdispatch.inyork.com/yd/sections/politics/ci_10655363
I've always wondered the true family ties here
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Senior moments on the trail: Mc attacks O ties to

For the slur that was dead on arrival, go here:


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/the-khalidi-gam.html


 


Politician comments

This is one thread I can't help posting to.  First, I want to say that I absolutely hate the new p.c. term "clearly."  Clearly this, clearly that from news anchors, talk show hosts, you name it.


As for the comment by Michelle Obama, if she is proud of her country "for the first time" then she's running a little late in my opinion.  I've been a Democrat all my life but no more.  The color of the candidate's skin has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, I don't care if he is pea green with orange stripes.  Obama scares the bejeezers out of me!!  Read about him and listen to him and learn.  I'll not be voting for him.  I would not have voted for Hillary.  Why?  Doesn't matter if she's a woman or not.  I have no respect for her.  I certainly don't admire her for standing by her man.


As for McCain, his stupid comment I think speaks for itself and doesn't show a lot of intelligence.  Secondly, he is too old.  While I admire his military service, I think if we like the condition of our country now, we'll enjoy more of the same and worse under his leadership.


Listen to both politicians.  They both want to give amnesty to illegal aliens and I am dead set against it.  Reagan (and I'm no fan of his either) tried that and now we have at least twice as many to deal with as we did then.  It is purely political, get the votes whereever they can. 


Then there's the matter of our country being sold off to foreign investors one piece at a time and the huge national debt to China.  What happens when they call in their mortgage?  Will they demand, California, Texas and maybe Alaska or will they just take over the whole danged country?


As for voting in this election?????  I probably will  just stay home for the first time since I've been old enough to vote.  We don't even have a candidate to vote for that is the lesser of the evils in my opinion.  I think the last good leader we had was Harry Truman, "walk softly and carry a big stick."


me too -- being VP doesn't take a politician,
it requires a person with judgment, intelligence, ethics, knowledge about many things, decision-making ability, courage, fortitude, a core morality, etc. She has all these, plus many first-hand experiences and management skills that will help her relate to the ordinary person/person's plight. Yes, many of us have these qualities, at least in part, but she seems to have a double-dose and also the ability to generate excitement and enthusiasm, and is articulate as well. and SHE has been brought into this position based upon her achievements and abilities, unlike you or I, for whatever reasons. She is far from 'just another woman' candidate. I like her a lot. Of course, time will tell as we progress through the election process, but i am fully expecting her to knock Biden's socks off in a debate. I think many of you nay-sayers ought to take another good hard look and see, just see if this McCain/Palin ticket isn't the REAL ticket for change in Washington -- 2 people who in their own right have bucked the system in favor of doing what they see as fit for the people they serve. It's definitely not our ordinary ticket, while Obama has shown himself to be just another politican who has never politically gone against his party or status quo, and changes his tune with the wind of opinion...
Then you need to put every politician in the same boat
They all have said conflicting things. Every one of them on both sides. Again that's why I say she has done nothing. But maybe I should have said she has done nothing that the other candidates haven't done.
It could be worse - you could be a politician!
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Every politician should be required...
To take one year of American history and one year of world history before ever being allowed to run for any kind of public office. Then maybe they wouldn't keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
I am not happy with any politician

who misuses taxpayer dollars whether it is for sex or whatever the reason may be.  I personally feel that our government is trying to tax us to death while they continue to do nothing but spend and, IMO, that is misusing taxpayer dollars as well. 


If Ensign misused taxpayer dollars....nail him.  If Sanford did....nail him.  You seem willing to give Clinton a free pass just because he didn't penetrate Lewinsky with his own pecker.  Nevermind that he lied under oath.  As for Edwards, his wife was supposed to have been dying from cancer when he diddled another woman.  That is his own personal business but you can't get much lower than that. 


When it comes to pubs with some of you people, they can't sneeze wrong without some of you guys picking them apart.  You went after Palin because her daughter had premarital sex and got knocked up.  I'm sure none of you had sex before marriage either, huh?  Here we have President Obama breaking campaign promise after campaign promise and all you can say in defense is that we are getting our news only from Fox News or you instantly assume we are pubs.  Not all of us are pubs and many of us get our news from many news sources and not just Fox. 


Funny how Barney Frank can screw us over with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and hire a guy he was getting sexual favors from (could be the reason why Frank refuses to get dentures) and that was all fine and he still (for some God awful reason) holds the position that he has.


Dr. King transcended partisan ties in message and in deeds.
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You will never find a politician that does not "misspeak."
For what is worth, this seemed to be more of a "family story" that he probably heard as a kid.
jealous of a politician? that's funny
a political choice rather than her being chosen on her own merits. She's only the VP b/c she has a vajay jay...
He would make a good politician.
He's flip-flopping already!!!
Well, I don't trust any politician anymore
It seems they're only out to rip us off. As soon as I heard of this "buying" votes, the idea of the O  coming so quick from nothing to president elect and was from Illinois gave me the idea that he bought his seat. I've been watching the news and maybe that's what they do in Illinois without realizing it's wrong. After all, there have been so many politicians from there that have been indicted for political crimes, I'm thinking that it's a natural way of doing "business" there. Even the governor  doesn't think he did anything wrong. Are they a different country and we don't know it?
Hey just me....I agree with you both....and one decent politician....sm
that I can name appears to be Bobby Jindal, republican governor of Louisiana.


What I find so interesting, is that there are lists and lists of corrupt Republican politicians and they are always run out on a rail, even when sometimes the corruption is made up, and yet the stigma remains, and they still resign.... and yet you are very hard to put to find a democrat corruption list.

Why?

Probably because when a democrat is corrupt, they usually stay in office, and no one prosecutes them, and they think they've done no wrong, even when it's the same thing that their rep counterparts have done. At least Louisiana has finally outsted Wm Jefferson, the dem with thousands of dollars in his freezer. Then there's the guy who had a relationship with his male page, another dem, can't remember his name. There are few other dems that have come to justice and have resigned, but the rest of them remain in office, business as usual.

It's too bad that any corrupt politician, republican or democrat or independent, seem to think they're above the law...until they're caught at it.....and even then, as I said, the dems, with the liberal media being enablers, tend to side step any wrong doing.

I wish sam was around. She could name them off in her sleep. My husband can also name them off, but I get so disgusted I stop listening. If the rest of the country doesn't care that their politicians are corrupt, and keep electing them, what can you do?

Here's a couple lists I found, but that's all I could find on a quick search, and they are from 2006 and 2007. Notice the dems on the lists....

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007

http://www.judicialwatch.org/6091.shtml





Sounds like the perfect politician to me -- too bad

So right you are. All a politician has to say is check in the mail...
and the voters line up behind them, while those who put their life on the line everyday for us get short shrift. Let O give all those homeless a check, maybe then I won't see so many of them with their ridiculous signs on the street corners any more. Meanwhile, DH and I will get taxed more for our hard work. Again I say, what a country!
What a concept, a politician who come to the Senate.....sm
with tons of experience in screwing people....and is not ashamed to record it!! I say she is uniquely qualified for the politics! IMHO
Another Politician Doesn't Pay Taxes.......

Top 5 Reasons it Sucks to Be Sarah Palin



"
Over the past week, a fresh new trove of Sarah Palin stories has been offered up to the American people, making plain, once again, that meteoric fame often comes with a hefty pricetag. In the five months since she was plucked from relative obscurity to become John McCain's running mate, Palin has resided on the very sharp blade of a double-edged sword. With her pit bull campaign role, delivering the harshest lines of attack against Barack Obama, Palin quickly became a woman that you loved, or loved to hate. Well, that hasn't changed. But a few recent developments, as magnified by the ever-present media magnifying glass, are making Palin's glass feel a little more half-empty.

1. Back taxes. From the Anchorage Daily News, comes word that Sarah Palin must pay back income taxes on upwards of $17,000 in per diem expenses (meals, lodging, etc.) that she charged to the state of Alaska while living in her own Wasilla home. No exact word on how much the Governor will have to fork over. On the bright side, the ADN article goes on to say that it seems like nobody in Alaska politics, Democrats included, really pays their taxes properly (following a national trend).

2. New enemies. The Washington Post details Palin's awkward reunion with state legislators:


A number of factors seem to have contributed to the bumpy homecoming: a residual anger among Democrats for the attack-dog role Palin assumed in the McCain campaign, lingering resentment from Republicans for the part she may have played in McCain's defeat and a suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.


3. Lack of privacy. Just as Hollywood movie stars, while giving interviews, often complain that they have no privacy, so too must the Palin family grapple with the simultaneous lure and repulsion of flashing cameras. This week, Bristol Palin decided she wanted to relay lots of personal details to Greta van Susteren about the birth of her son, and her feelings on how sexual abstinence is not "realistic" for teenagers. And the governor herself, interviewed by People magazine and in a new biography disclosed that she'd hid the news that she was pregnant with her son Trig from her own family until the final weeks before his birth. (Tommy has more).

4. Stimulus. She hates the stimulus bill, and will build new roads to prove it. Before President Obama signed the stimulus bill into law, Palin declared that he should veto it. Why? It contained too much wasteful spending. Well, that seems like an odd criticism given that Palin is now proposing to build a road to Nome that will cost an estimated $4 million per mile.

5. Ashley Judd and Planned Parenthood. Governor Palin is a potent symbol, and, like Hillary Clinton before her, she has become a sure fire way to raise money and attention for groups or individuals who staunchly disagree with her views. Consider the attention she has brought to the practice of aerial hunting, and the cash she continues to raise for Planned Parenthood.


I would take Bush any day over this fake politician.
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Oprah calls O "The One". The man is a politician,
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Rahm Emanual: Pit Bull Politician

From Fortune, CNN Money.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/06/news/newsmakers/emanuel_easton.fortune/?postversion=2008110613


Son of a terrorist link below


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel


Corporate greed, politician back-scratching,

Yeah and guess what the Bush family has tight ties with the Bin Ladin family....

so give it all a rest would you. 


Bill Clinton and his ties to India (yes, Bill),...
and China (yes, Bill) sent a lot of our jobs their way. Google it some time. Even I was amazed.

Look, it is simple economics. The big bad corporations everyone hates...first of all, it is not 5 or 6 rich guys and that's it. They employee thousands of people just like us...and when the government puts those huge taxes on them, if they want to stay in business, they are forced to move offshore. Higher taxes are responsible for more jobs going overseas than "greed." The DNC has told its members for years that "corporations" and "the rich" are the cause of all their problems and they have bought that Marxist rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. Corporations are not the cause of ill in this country. They are the backbone of the economy in this country. That is simple economics 101. And I am certainly not rich...and I certainly am not on the upper echelon of a corporation, but I do understand reality and I understand how the economy works. Yes, there is wrongdoing by some upper level folks in corporations. There is wrongdoing in the government. Where there is power, there will be wrongdoing. But for every Enron there are thousands of other good, solid companies that employ thousands of Americans, but the DNC does not share the success stories, because it does not promote their agenda. In order to control people they want them beholden to government and hating free enterprise. They want big government, total power, and control. And following Alinksy's program...you have to instill class warfare. You have to make corporations the enemy. You have to make classes envy the next rung up. Classic Marxist socialism. It is being played out in this country every day.

It is just that some of us have not bought the myth and jumped on the socialism train.
This is really scary.

I wonder if the Catholic *terror group* was being spied on before or after this became public.  You know how truth and light are with the Bush crowd:  If you expose the truth about their actions, you WILL Plamegated, Swiftboated or just generally trampled on.


This just further proves that if you're not evangelical and born again, you may as well hang it up because you simply don't count as an American any more.  You don't belong either here on earth or in heaven as far as they're concerned.


They act more like the antichrist than people who follow the teachings of someone who was LOVING and TOLERANT, like Jesus.


Yes, very scary. sm
But, for now I'm still in denial, but then so were the Jews until they were being rounded up by Hitler.


That is just too scary
I heard that and thought letting them steal our money from us and feel good about it? (well I actually don't make that much, but for the people who have earned it with blood sweat and tears, and lots of hard work, since when is it right to do that to them). Since when did patriotism fall into the same category as robbery. BTW...this $250K thing? Just a short while ago it was $200K (guess they were losing too many votes so they upped the figure), but what's going to happen when they say, oh we're not getting enough money, we're going to have to steal from the people who make $150K, then $100K, etc, etc. Anyone see a pattern here? Oh and on top of that we're supposed to feel patriotic about that. Sure I'll sing the national anthem everytime I get my paycheck to find they stolen from me. That's not patriotism, that's socialism at its finest. I have been saying all along the democratic party is now the socialist party and it's coming right back to bite them. - Another little tidbit of info...Joe Biden plagerized something a socialist said word for word. I'd have to do some research on what exactly it was but I heard that on TV and also DH told me that tonight. I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can keep as much as I can. Things are tough enough without the government stealing more from me. The democrats need to learn to stop spending!!!!! I can't wait for Sarah Palin to take the office of VP. If anyone caught part I of her interview with Sean Hannity you will understand why. She's one smart cookie when it come to economics and how to get America back on track and prosper.
She's scary.

You are very scary if you believe that. Oh my...sm
Is that what we are reduced to in this country? Doesn't a leader of the modern world need to have an education and an understanding of what it takes to guide the US in the right direction in this most difficult time. I am a hockey mom too, have a masters degree in political science and a law degree from Rutgers University. I have been very involved over the years in setting the record straight for both parties. I feel like I have contributed to cracking that ceiling for women but I am ashamed that the republican party is using Sarah Palin for their own disgusting purposes. She is neither qualified to be VP or president, and neither am I.
Scary

Have you checked out your McSaint as thoroughly?  What about his hair-trigger temper for example?  Have you watched the video of his exchange with the mother of the Vet still MIA in the congressional hearing?  Not exactly a kindly man. What about the Palin investigation that the results of that investigation won't be released until after the election?


Could it be that if the majority of the people intend to vote for Obama (or against McCain) that the majority agree that McCain does not need to be in the White House?


I personally find McCain just as scary, if not more so, than Obama.


Yes.......scary it is........sm
allowing on of our biggest creditors to set up on our soil. Has to give you cause for pause.
Scary, huh? I think they are serious.
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